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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess "As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.  | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess "Barnier produced a graphic some time ago that demonstrated where the U.K. could be given its own choice of red lines. It is ridiculous that our Politicians are still airing fantasy scenarios that are just never going to see the light of day. Having cake and eating was off the table on day 1, it remains off the table and will never be on the table. Time to just accept that our red lines put us in a certain place and if those red lines are not to move - then we are where we are. Get oneith preparing for that eventuality. | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end! "Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants ? | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
?"Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end! " Spot on. The EU historically always has a habit of concluding deals at the very last minute before deadlines. | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
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Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. "Glad you agree , regardless of the reasons the UK appear to the world as blithering bickering incompetents who have zero agreed direction | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
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Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. "You like to blame the Lords a lot, but you constantly ignore the reality of politics and power. The tories are divided and they know the country is divided down 2 possibly 4 lines. Theresa May isn't willing to do something so drastic that it breaks her party, or probably worse in the eyes of the tories, end up with them being perceived as unelectable for one or two GE's. Face it, most politicians are now aware that many factors came into people voting leave(especially after the tory whitewash never came last year when it easily could have if they had listened to domestic issues) - not all of these issues being tied to the EU but rather the failure of domestic policy. As such, most politicians are treading carefully. They don't want to step on a mine. Ad they know the brexit vote isn't a monolith when it comes to the GE. It fragments twice over down traditional party lines ith some swap over. The negotiations will come down to the wire yes. But we'll likely go in with a rushed vision of what we want - or one which is only liked by a small demographic, as such it cold well change in a fe years if that isn't satisfactory. | |||
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" Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. " i think it is quite ironic that for someone who always talks about "taking back control" he doesn't actually want our parliament to have a meaningful vote on the deal....... thats sounds almost "dictator-ish"... or is the only form of brexit you are happy with the form you want??? | |||
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" Theresa May isn't willing to do something so drastic that it breaks her party, or probably worse in the eyes of the tories, end up with them being perceived as unelectable for one or two GE's. " This is why democracy doesn't work as it is. The political instinct to stay popular overrides the desire to make sound decisions. | |||
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"I voted to remain but can I point out a few things. On exit from EU we don't stop trading with them but we are at a disadvantage due to tarrifs. The EU sends more goods to the UK than we export to them. It will not be Armageddon but will take a bit of getting used to !!!!" We will collect more in tariffs than we pay.... Estimated to be about 8 to 10 Billion a year. | |||
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"A workable Brexit was doomed one minute after the referendum result was announced. Despite taking part in a democratic process, many stood up and said that they would never accept the result. I have no problem with people disagreeing with the actual process but to deny the result has only led to a fragile political instability, an instability that the EU could exploit." The chances of a properly organised Brexit went down the pan 12 months ago when the idiotic May called an election and failed to get a working majority. | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
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Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. "What happened to parliamentary sovereignty? Or is that only acceptable when the Lords and or the Commons, agree with your take on Brexit ? | |||
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" Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons. i think it is quite ironic that for someone who always talks about "taking back control" he doesn't actually want our parliament to have a meaningful vote on the deal....... thats sounds almost "dictator-ish"... or is the only form of brexit you are happy with the form you want???" | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
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Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons.
What happened to parliamentary sovereignty? Or is that only acceptable when the Lords and or the Commons, agree with your take on Brexit ? " | |||
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"In practical terms the UK has just about 6 months left to negotiate a deal with the Eu before so called cliff edge ? Yet ? Apparently it has no agreed method of decisively formulating agreement upon what deal the UK actually wants or may be offered Our European friends may indeed have governmental turmoil themselves but the UK must simply appear to be blithering idiots riding gung go upon a driverless train ? Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants Oh this bodes so well for the UKs future negotiation prowess
As you have said there is syill six months of meetings to go yet so might be better to wait until then to say there is no agreement.
Exactly these negotiations generally go down to the wire but get sorted in the end!
Point being 6 months to go and the UK has no consensus upon what direction it wants and no mechanism for agreeing what deal it wants
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Partly because Brexit wreckers like the Lords are stalling for time, and dreaming up unacceptable ammendments which they keep sending to the commons.
What happened to parliamentary sovereignty? Or is that only acceptable when the Lords and or the Commons, agree with your take on Brexit ? "EU Referendum Act 2015 Notification of EU Withdrawal Act 2017 Triggering of Article 50 EU Withdrawal Bill 2018 All voted on, and passed, by the sovereign UK Parliament. Or are they not acceptable to you because you want to remain? | |||
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