FabSwingers.com forum: Wetherspoons ditches EU champagne and beer

By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

Popular UK pub chain Wetherspoons run by prominent Brexiter Tim Martin has ditched European Champagne and Beer in favour of British brands and Brands from outside of the EU. French Champagne will be swapped for UK Sparkling wines as well as Pinot Chardonnay from Australia. Less beer from the EU, in particular German beer will also be stocked at wetherspoons in favour of UK brewers and beers from outside of Europe. This will no doubt send alarm bells ringing amongst French champagne producer's and German beer producers. Boris Johnson also warned Italy near the beginning of Brexit negotiations that if they wanted to continue selling Prosecco in the UK they should push for a good Brexit deal, it seems warnings from the UK to the EU have not been listened to.

Personally I think it's a great move by wetherspoons and I look forward to trying more beers from around the rest of the world there.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters? "

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's a business worthy of being well avoided. Its owner is repugnant

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK."

I am not sure that is the point of the statement of intent though is it? Nor was my list anything other than off the top of my head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should all be buying British

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK."

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK.

And just needed to check. Budweiser is brewed in Wales.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"Popular UK pub chain Wetherspoons run by prominent Brexiter Tim Martin has ditched European Champagne and Beer in favour of British brands and Brands from outside of the EU. French Champagne will be swapped for UK Sparkling wines as well as Pinot Chardonnay from Australia. Less beer from the EU, in particular German beer will also be stocked at wetherspoons in favour of UK brewers and beers from outside of Europe. This will no doubt send alarm bells ringing amongst French champagne producer's and German beer producers. Boris Johnson also warned Italy near the beginning of Brexit negotiations that if they wanted to continue selling Prosecco in the UK they should push for a good Brexit deal, it seems warnings from the UK to the EU have not been listened to.

Personally I think it's a great move by wetherspoons and I look forward to trying more beers from around the rest of the world there.

Im sure that the good patrons of Wetherspoons quaff gazillions of magnums of champagne. To be fair, they'll sell any cheap shit that has a decent margin, regardless of origin.Im suspecting this is a cheap (as always with this clown) publicity stunt

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

One casualty could be Guinness and it's variants, as these are supplied exclusively from Ireland.

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"We should all be buying British"

Yep, but I also got a beers from around the world gift set last Christmas. There was a very nice Indian beer in it called Kingfisher beer, and a Japanese beer which was particularly tasty, look forward to seeing those in Wetherspoons in future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One casualty could be Guinness and it's variants, as these are supplied exclusively from Ireland."

In syrup form I believe. In Spain the water is added at the SAN Miguel brewery. Or used to be anyway

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Hahahahahahaha.....

Champagne.

Weatherspoons.

Seriously Centaur, you need to get out and experience the real world sometime.

Weatherspoons is (one of) the largest buyers of independent British beers already. I'd love to look up the numbers, but I'm guessing that 'spoons already buy the vast majority of their booze from the UK (or Aussie wine).

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"There was a very nice Indian beer in it called Kingfisher beer"

You've never set foot in a curry house?

-Matt

PS. Kingfisher is brewed in the UK by Heineken

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

There seems to be an awful lot of snobbery coming from remainers on this thread, lol. I'm sure you can all continue drinking expensive champagne in the VIP lounge at your nearest pretentious upmarket wine bars, the lowly common folk meanwhile will continue to enjoy wetherspoons and it's new menu of wines and beers

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"There was a very nice Indian beer in it called Kingfisher beer

You've never set foot in a curry house?

-Matt

PS. Kingfisher is brewed in the UK by Heineken"

My local curry house sells Cobra beer. A quick look on Wikipedia shows that Indian Kingfisher beer is brewed by United breweries group in Bangalore.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Old news...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/767132

As mentioned further up Heineken brew Kingfisher in the UK, previous to that it was Shepherd Neame up the road in Faversham (they do/did Cobra and a host of other exotic sounding World beers' too)

Anyway Tim Martin, serving the (s)will of the people.

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By *irm FoundationsMan
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Most beers from far away are brewed under licence. German and Belgian beers are probably the biggest exceptions.

I would imagine that Weatherspoons will tap into the burdgeoning UK craft beer market more and more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tim Martin runs a very successfull pub chain in addition to being a trained lawyer . His business has succeeded where others have failed in recent years. Wetherspoons provide what the customer wants, namely good service and value for money. The share price of Wetherspoons has been a strong performer in recent years .

We should admire Tim Martin for what he has achieved .

You cannot be as successfull as Wetherspoons unless you are totally focused on your business .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't often go into a Spoons but I normally only go for English brewed Ale's anyway, so if the vast choice increases then all the better

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By *unsigntwoCouple
over a year ago

athlone

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

well I love bud and fosters but what would I know we don’t get many beer snobs in the north east lol

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

A classic bit of PR from Wetherspoons - and the media reports it as "news".

When was the last time you went into a Wetherspoons and saw someone asking for a bottle of champagne.

Me neither.

And when your local drops Grimsby Best in favour of Taunton Tiger Juice, does the BBC and the rest think it is "news"?

Nah.

Fair dos to the PR people at Wetherspoons, they've earned the company millions of £s of free advertising.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hopefully they'll take all the foreign food off the menu like curry and pasta and ciabatta bread.They should just serve gammon !

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Bang on bob they should just do beef carverys lol

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley

"Bang on bob they should just do beef carverys lol "

Can't beat a nice carvery!

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK."

And Budweiser is too.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"One casualty could be Guinness and it's variants, as these are supplied exclusively from Ireland."

Yes because Guinness closed tgeir Park Royal Brewery in 2004.

Probably because of Brexit.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"There seems to be an awful lot of snobbery coming from remainers on this thread, lol. I'm sure you can all continue drinking expensive champagne in the VIP lounge at your nearest pretentious upmarket wine bars, the lowly common folk meanwhile will continue to enjoy wetherspoons and it's new menu of wines and beers

Snobbery? What by pointing out that no-one orders Champagne in Weatherspoons? No, that isn't snobbery, that is reality. If someone was complaining that 'Spoons *didn't* sell Champagne, then you might have a point. But as usual you have got the wrong end of the stick.

Despite the owner's desire to see the UK out of the EU, I have no qualms about Weatherspoons. I think they are a great place, in that they are exactly what they are. No fuss. Simple. You know what you are going to get. No, you are not going to get fine dining there, or exotic top-shelf cocktails, or even an atmosphere, but that is not what they are about.

I'm an ale drinker, and personally, I hate bland boring mass-market largers that are common in the UK. So the fact that Weatherspoons is one of the biggest (if not, the biggest) supporter of CAMRA, I think, is great.

But I agree, this has been a genius bit of marketing from them which leavers have lapped up without a second thought.

-Matt

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By *haverMan
over a year ago

bracknell

How sad it's come to this

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Old news...

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/767132

As mentioned further up Heineken brew Kingfisher in the UK, previous to that it was Shepherd Neame up the road in Faversham (they do/did Cobra and a host of other exotic sounding World beers' too)

Anyway Tim Martin, serving the (s)will of the people."

Cobra is brewed by Molson Coors in Burton and Tadcaster.

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the same Dim Martian who bitches and moans that it's impossible to run a pub in the uk but has 1000 pub chain? just another gammon gobshite

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"We should all be buying British"
What do you drive/ride?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There was a very nice Indian beer in it called Kingfisher beer

You've never set foot in a curry house?

-Matt

PS. Kingfisher is brewed in the UK by Heineken

My local curry house sells Cobra beer. A quick look on Wikipedia shows that Indian Kingfisher beer is brewed by United breweries group in Bangalore. "

You realise that wikipedia is open source right?

People can edit what they like.

Indian Kingfish seems to be listed as brewed to some extent in a UK brewary accroding to the supplier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont really think champers is weatherspoons biggest market.

If they are willing to put that (I presume) slim profit on the line. So be it.

On the beer fromt, I think they'll find their selection doesnt increase by much. Msny of the world beers are brewed here in the UK. Those which arent might not be commerically viable.

Of course I could be wrong.

At the end of the day its his company - I rarely use it so I couldnt care. Personally I think national chain pubs ruin a community and that pubs should be independant.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"There was a very nice Indian beer in it called Kingfisher beer

You've never set foot in a curry house?

-Matt

PS. Kingfisher is brewed in the UK by Heineken

My local curry house sells Cobra beer. A quick look on Wikipedia shows that Indian Kingfisher beer is brewed by United breweries group in Bangalore.

You realise that wikipedia is open source right?

People can edit what they like.

Indian Kingfish seems to be listed as brewed to some extent in a UK brewary accroding to the supplier."

Used to be brewed by Sheppard Neame in Kent. As its production has now gone to Heineken, I assume it comes from their brewery in Manchester.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters? "

Stella is made over here by anhauser.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK.

And just needed to check. Budweiser is brewed in Wales."

No, its brewed in London and Samlesbury.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Hopefully they'll take all the foreign food off the menu like curry and pasta and ciabatta bread.They should just serve gammon !

Its a pub. They shouldn't be doing any food!

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

Remoaners ....if its such a shit place why are weatherspoons pubs so busy .

Perhaps its you lot that need to put a cork in it .

Its really pathetic the way some go on .

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

Before anyone hits me with the usual flak . I won't respond to any stupid remarks that seem to spurt out from the remain camp . you lost the referendum .grow up and deal with it .bye bye xx

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London

"It's a business worthy of being well avoided. Its owner is repugnant "

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Remoaners ....if its such a shit place why are weatherspoons pubs so busy .

Perhaps its you lot that need to put a cork in it .

Its really pathetic the way some go on ."

The same reason mac very shit Donalds , Greg's , and some extra awful reality tv are SO popular and we had an out vote

Sadly a large number of UK residents are not the most discerning and , prefer not thinking easy cheep crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hopefully they'll take all the foreign food off the menu like curry and pasta and ciabatta bread.They should just serve gammon !

Its a pub. They shouldn't be doing any food!

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Its the Bloody EU .

The dirty bastards turned all our boozers into gastro pubs serving foreign muck and foreign beer like Stella and becks.My grandad didn't fight so we could drink German beer and eat Italian pasta and bread.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Wetherspoon's do sell a lot of traditional ale which is something I very much approve of.

In our town, we have one very old and successful independent pub and another quite new one. Both excel at craft ales and the older one is a CAMRA favourite and it has probably the best jukebox in the entire world.

We are lucky that we don't have to mix with the Brexit loving oiks and riff-raff in Wetherspoons when we want a pint of England's finest

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Hopefully they'll take all the foreign food off the menu like curry and pasta and ciabatta bread.They should just serve gammon !

Its a pub. They shouldn't be doing any food!

Its the Bloody EU .

You can shove your fuckin baguette up your arse...

You can shove your fuckin baguette...

Shove your fuckin baguette

Shove your fuckin baguette up your arse.

Hovis 4Eva

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Wetherspoon's do sell a lot of traditional ale which is something I very much approve of.

We are lucky that we don't have to mix with the Brexit loving oiks and riff-raff in Wetherspoons when we want a pint of England's finest

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lol so you very much approve of them selling traditional ales but you don’t go in because you don’t want to mix with brexit loving oils and riff raft lol so on a night out do you pop your head in bars to see if you can see the brexit riff raff pls tell me what they look like ?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It all started with garlic bread .Its a slippery slope to ciabatta .Are their any true brits left who remember bread and dripping before all this foreign stuff.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm"

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Bob I never go into a boozer for food or coffee unless it’s s Sunday afternoon then I have a carvery

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,"

They eat tripe in France...we grew out of it! But a pub shouldn't be doing food. Beer, spirits, wine (I suppose) and pork scratchings. If I want food I go to a cafe or restaurant. Pubs should smell of stale beer and smoke. Not chips or garlic bread!

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Wetherspoon's do sell a lot of traditional ale which is something I very much approve of.

We are lucky that we don't have to mix with the Brexit loving oiks and riff-raff in Wetherspoons when we want a pint of England's finest

There are 1500 or so microbreweries in the UK now. Some do some cracking beers and ciders.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"It all started with garlic bread .Its a slippery slope to ciabatta .Are their any true brits left who remember bread and dripping before all this foreign stuff.

Bread and dripping....loved it. Proper dripping though, with the gravy bit at the bottom. Preferred it on toast though.

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over a year ago

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London

"Hopefully they'll take all the foreign food off the menu like curry and pasta and ciabatta bread.They should just serve gammon !

Its a pub. They shouldn't be doing any food!

Its the Bloody EU .

You can shove your fuckin baguette up your arse...

You can shove your fuckin baguette...

Shove your fuckin baguette

Shove your fuckin baguette up your arse.

Hovis 4Eva

And they can bring Ploughman's Lunches back too. None of this big girls blouse 'cheese board' frippery crap.

A good hunk of cheddar cheese, piccalilli and pickle on the side with a hunk of bread. And, if they're feeling luxurious, chuck in an apple.

I'd be there like a shot...

In any other place apart from a Witherspoon's.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

In my youth I couldn't touch cider for a few years. It smelled of sick. My sick to be exact. I think you can guess why!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

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lmao bob what’s a cider house we only have pubs up here

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

I thought from the first words of that remark you were going to give us a Wurzles rendition!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

lmao bob what’s a cider house we only have pubs up here "

It’s a house where people who haven’t developed beer buds go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

lmao bob what’s a cider house we only have pubs up here "

Come down to the south west on a cider odyssey and experience a cider house.They are almost all gone these days..The cider Is still here but the houses have gone.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

No good for me I’m a lager drinker skinhead juice is to string for me lol I’d never heard of a cider house till read yr post bet the crack was great in them then

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

lmao bob what’s a cider house we only have pubs up here

Come down to the south west on a cider odyssey and experience a cider house.They are almost all gone these days..The cider Is still here but the houses have gone."

I've heard too much long term abuse of proper scrumpy can not only affect your eyesight, but on occasion has caused a few to accidentally follow through into their undies after sneezing or trying to fart loudly. Not that I'm suggesting its happened to you!

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"Love bread and dripping and a bowl of tripe mmmm

Just try ordering bread and dripping in your boozer or tripe.No chance!.

Garlic ciabatta and Naan bread is available though.Ever Try ordering a coffee that doesn't have a fancy foreign name! Good luck with that,

I'm a cider drinker and unfortunately the cider houses of my youth smelling somewhere between sick and sawdust and smoke have all gone.Sad times...

lmao bob what’s a cider house we only have pubs up here

Come down to the south west on a cider odyssey and experience a cider house.They are almost all gone these days..The cider Is still here but the houses have gone.

Yeah that would be some rough scrumpy sold in 4 litre milk cartons .For a couple of quid.Chunks of meat floating in it from a fermented rat.

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over a year ago

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK."

I would not clean shite of my shoes with fosters! !!!

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Really? Champagne and Wetherspoons are not really made to be said in the same sentence.

Swapping Stella Artois for????

South African Lion Beer?

Malaysian Tiger Beer?

Or just stick with the shit imported beer that they already sell - American Budweiser, Australian Fosters?

Foster's is brewed under licence in the UK.

I would not clean shite of my shoes with fosters! !!!"

I would, just to impart some taste into it.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Oh... by the way “champagne” is an Eu protected trademark... which means that fizzy plonk can only be called champagne if it is made in the champagne region of France....

Same like Stilton cheese or Melton Mowbray pork pies

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By *entaur_UK OP Man
over a year ago

Cannock

"Oh... by the way “champagne” is an Eu protected trademark... which means that fizzy plonk can only be called champagne if it is made in the champagne region of France....

Same like Stilton cheese or Melton Mowbray pork pies"

We've had this discussion before on the forum and you are wrong. Have a look on Google at Korbel champagne, an American company which makes American champagne.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Oh... by the way “champagne” is an Eu protected trademark... which means that fizzy plonk can only be called champagne if it is made in the champagne region of France....

Same like Stilton cheese or Melton Mowbray pork pies

We've had this discussion before on the forum and you are wrong. Have a look on Google at Korbel champagne, an American company which makes American champagne. "

Only other EU countries stick to the rules, because the rules only apply to them. And not all of them stuck to them either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The majority of beers marketed as French, Indian or whatever are almost always brewed over here in the uk in various breweries.

Kronenbourg, fosters, tiger, kingfisher, Amstel, birra moretti etc etc.

Even Guinness only has to be around 21% actually brewered in Ireland which is tankered over and blended with the remaining not brewed in Ireland.

Brewing is something we do very well in the uk.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Well done timbo...fly the flag my boy ...we as a business also try to buy British if we can x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well done timbo...fly the flag my boy ...we as a business also try to buy British if we can x"

How about supporting an independent pub? Spoons are awful..poor service and soulless from my experience.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

From your experience....i think for what u pay...

Good value

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