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"I'm not sure what you are asking. The title suggests a completely different topic to the question you pose on the first post. " I know I’m asking both questions because he is on LBC talking shit lol | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?" I'd like to be a fly on the wall in a locked room with Nigel and Harry. Say that to his face Nigel,I double dare you. My money's on Nigel getting his ass whupped.  | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood "  100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded. | |||
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"We quite like Nigel, he's alright and makes a lot of sense. Just wish he didn't bail on UKIP! He would have made a much better prime minister than the Muppets in charts now! "Agreed! | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood " Agreed. | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood 100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded. " | |||
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"Like UKIP or not, everyone complains about other parties not doing what they said they were going to do. UKIP did exactly what they said they were going to do. (The clue is in their name) To me they were a glass cannon party, a one trick pony, one bullet in the chamber. When you’ve achieved 100% of your manifesto that’s what’s going to happen. Talking about a guy here who almost singlehandedly brought about the biggest constitutional change in a century, and had the establishment politicians shitting themselves as he sat on nearly 30% in the opinion polls? Have Cameron, Brown, Clegg improved their reputations in the same time?? Ukip’s Problems have not been caused by uncle Nigel. If his personal integrity could be called into question (expenses scandal anyone?) was then I’m sure our left wing hippy media would have bought him down years ago One shot, then implode. " | |||
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"I'm not sure what you are asking. The title suggests a completely different topic to the question you pose on the first post. I know I’m asking both questions because he is on LBC talking shit lol" so question(s) answered then. | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood 100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded. "Please tell me this is irony. The man has lived off European money for how long as an MEP ... | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?" Is he chatting shit again?
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"He is very clever guy, he worth more than what he gets, after all he made 52% people to agree with him... Powerful than many other British politicians ... "not as powerful as the new leader who’s sweeping the country who will never stand for parliament,who comes from the terraces in Luton #freespeech | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?" Yes. | |||
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"He's a cunt. Why?" If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer.... | |||
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"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing." ^ This | |||
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"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing." Drawing a hefty wage from the EU he claimed to hate so much and rarely bothering to turn up at work in Brussels and actually represent his electorate, the people he claimed so vigorously to be the champion of? | |||
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"He's a cunt. Why? If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer...." Well this but also, one good example is his ease with using rehashed nazi propaganda. Yes he did. Look it up. | |||
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"Can't stand the man as a man but now even the Italians look they they are giving Brussels the heave ho. #started the rot." Surely that means he started removing the rot, the EU became rotten and a power grab by lots of unelected folk on a gravy train. Follow the money. A shame really, as in principle there's so much that could have or should have been achieved. Farage is the Clarkson figure of politics, will always divide opinion, but in media speak he's good copy and many programmes and articles have been published as a result of this. There are plenty of more powerful people who couldn't generate the press he does, welcome or not. Time to play the ball and not the man, attacking him doesn't win any arguments, his policies maybe, I (mr) think that's where Remain went wrong in the referendum. | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood 100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded. "Does that include his contribution to fucking over our fishermen by refusing to engage with the EU fisheries committee, which was his actual job when he was a Euro MP? Asking for a fisherman’s friend. | |||
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"We quite like Nigel, he's alright and makes a lot of sense. Just wish he didn't bail on UKIP! He would have made a much better prime minister than the Muppets in charge now! " | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood 100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded.
Does that include his contribution to fucking over our fishermen by refusing to engage with the EU fisheries committee, which was his actual job when he was a Euro MP? Asking for a fisherman’s friend."What he and myself believe in is by getting out of the EU we would claim back the rights of our waters and so there's no need to talk about what's ours end of . | |||
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"What he and myself believe in is by getting out of the EU we would claim back the rights of our waters and so there's no need to talk about what's ours end of ." It’s really reassuring, when your future has been completely fucked over, that the people responsible ‘believe’ in something, rather than having a firm grasp of the facts. | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?" What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ? | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right? What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ? " Isn't harry 6th in line . What i would like to know is Nigel speaking to his core voters and do people in the country really have an issue with her being mixed race.Is Nigel representative of the feelings of the British people regards interracial marriage.? | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right? What you’ve got to ask yourself is . Would the queen have allowed William heir to the throne to marry Meghan Markle ? Isn't harry 6th in line . What i would like to know is Nigel speaking to his core voters and do people in the country really have an issue with her being mixed race.Is Nigel representative of the feelings of the British people regards interracial marriage.?" If Farage was the concensus . UKIP wouldn’t be a dead in the water party | |||
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" If Farage was the concensus . UKIP wouldn’t be a dead in the water party " This! | |||
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"Think he is a top man and should have stuck with what he was doing. Drawing a hefty wage from the EU he claimed to hate so much and rarely bothering to turn up at work in Brussels and actually represent his electorate, the people he claimed so vigorously to be the champion of? " Seems you completely missed the point of why people voted for him. They voted for him because they wanted out of the EU. Farage and ukip achieved it. Mission accomplished.  | |||
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"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won "Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on | |||
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"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won
Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on "Darn you pesky brexiters! Always bringing up the inconvenient result of the referendum! Grrr I shall have to return to machinating for the overthrow of democracy instead | |||
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"Can we all just agree that a certain subsection of the vote for brexit were a bunch of racists and that, if we sensibly discount those votes, remain won
Nope, we won't agree. Remain lost the vote, accept and finally move on "Yeah because that’s what the anti EU crowd like Farage who had been moaning for years would have have done. They would have gracefully accepted it and never spoken of it again. | |||
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"He is very clever guy, he worth more than what he gets, after all he made 52% people to agree with him... Powerful than many other British politicians ... "No that was the rich oligarchs and media owners who did that. What's more you swallowed it all. | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. " Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend. | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend. "The biggest raciest bastard him and his party Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind Can’t stand the evil twat | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat "We don't "support" him as there's nothing to support. But we do agree with a lot of his views, not all, but a lot. As for being racist?!? Poor call of judgement there from you I'm afraid. But, your entitled to your opinion of others and we're sure you have good reason to say that, because if you didn't have good reason, it would say a lot about your character | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat
We don't "support" him as there's nothing to support. But we do agree with a lot of his views, not all, but a lot. As for being racist?!? Poor call of judgement there from you I'm afraid. But, your entitled to your opinion of others and we're sure you have good reason to say that, because if you didn't have good reason, it would say a lot about your character "Will reiterate he is a raciest That may say a lot about your character So do you have a good reason for supporting racism because we don’t like people that do | |||
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"Give the man a knighthood 100% agree with this. Nigel Farage should be given a knighthood for what he has done for this country. His hard work and dedication over the last 20 to 30 years to getting the UK out of the EU should be recognised and rewarded. "Can see it now. For services to hate and devision, for failing to do the one job he was actually elected to a parliament to do, and for forcing the country down a potentially ruinous path. | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat
We don't "support" him as there's nothing to support. But we do agree with a lot of his views, not all, but a lot. As for being racist?!? Poor call of judgement there from you I'm afraid. But, your entitled to your opinion of others and we're sure you have good reason to say that, because if you didn't have good reason, it would say a lot about your character
Will reiterate he is a raciest
That may say a lot about your character
So do you have a good reason for supporting racism because we don’t like people that do "But you don't know us? Your basically calling us racist based on your own judgement of Nigel Farage and claiming that anyone who "supports" him is a racist?!?! The man is a fucking genius for what he achieved in accumulating support to get our arses out of the EU. That we supported then and support right now and only time will prove it was the right thing to do. As for the racist thing, you know nothing about us or anyone who "supports" Nigel Farage (or more accurately voted leave) and we really couldn't care for your opinion of us as we don't know you and never will
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"The man is a fucking genius for what he achieved in accumulating support to get our arses out of the EU. That we supported then and support right now and only time will prove it was the right thing to do." This is one of the most desperately misguided things I’ve read. Nigel Farage, a ‘fucking genius’? Oh dear. Time will tell, indeed... | |||
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"The man is a fucking genius for what he achieved in accumulating support to get our arses out of the EU. That we supported then and support right now and only time will prove it was the right thing to do. This is one of the most desperately misguided things I’ve read. Nigel Farage, a ‘fucking genius’? Oh dear. Time will tell, indeed..." In your opinion, but we have ours which is different. But as you quoted time will tell, only then will we know  | |||
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"Actually, no. Some of us know already." That's great | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat "I like him I voted leave Im am not racist at all I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat
I like him
I voted leave
Im am not racist at all
I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed "You may well like him but he is raciest as was his party as is most of his followers I wouldent piss on the cunt if he was on fire a DUSGUSTING Man | |||
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"I love farage, he lead the way and showed all the media and remainers who said it couldn't be done that it was possible. Agreed Farage is an absolute Legend.
The biggest raciest bastard him and his party
Anyone who supports him is raciest in our mind
Can’t stand the evil twat
I like him
I voted leave
Im am not racist at all
I find thatgeneralisation is really offensive and very very uninformed "It's a little hot for snowflakes. You are complicit in kipper xenophobia . | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist" Can you give examples of why UKIP is a racist party ? | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist" This wasn’t about racism was it ? It was about Farage and him securing Brexit . I believe UKIP to be a dead in the water party . However he played a big part in securing the Brexit vote . I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not . I’ve never voted for UKIP in a by election or a general , but I believed some of his views ,, not all to be right | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all ." Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo." Here he is, authority on everything. | |||
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"Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not ." Well, that rather depends on what exactly it is you want ‘more’ control over. Out of interest, what do you think was wrong with our border control as it was. How do you think we should handle the border between NI and RoI. How do you expect to deal with the mass exodus of our migrant workforce? | |||
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"Does it make anyone racist for wanting more border control ? Of course not . Well, that rather depends on what exactly it is you want ‘more’ control over. Out of interest, what do you think was wrong with our border control as it was. How do you think we should handle the border between NI and RoI. How do you expect to deal with the mass exodus of our migrant workforce?" I am interested in the answer to this | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo." It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice . | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice . "Touché | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
Touché "Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind. What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court. | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
Touché
Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.
What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court."Touché or touchy, not sure which one. | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
Touché "I thought it was the allseeing eyenot THUMB ..... maybe change his name to the oracle | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
Touché
Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.
What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court.
Touché or touchy, not sure which one. "Over simplification ? Try telling that to the families of the Manchester bombings . A misguided suicidebomber radicalised in our own back yard by the likes of Hamzah the Hook . The cleric who preached race hate on our streets and it took 13 attempts to get him off our shores because of the European court of human rights | |||
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"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice . "First of all, you were talking about ‘initiating’ and ‘instigating’. Those are very different from appealing decisions made in court. Our laws are initiated and instigated here. Written here. Debated here. Enacted here. Enforced here. As forthe European Court of Appeal, no haven’t heard of that. I have heard of the European Court of Justice, and the European Court of Human Rights, though. Is that what you meant? I’m going to go ahead , make a bold assumption, and assume that you mean the latter. Like it or not, rights are there for everyone, even ‘every slimeball’ although not their dogs. I think you’ve got a slightly skewed perception of the number of cases that succeed, compared to the number of cases going through our courts on a daily basis. However, very often, it takes the people you don’t like to challenge things that results in revision of the law that’s better for all. There’s a case, Cadder v HMA, which I imagine is the kind of ‘slimeball’ you’re talking about. The result is that Scotland now has vastly improved criminal justice legislation that improves Police investigatory powers, while tightening up loopholes for the ne’er-do-wells. That’s a good thing, isn’t it? You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place? | |||
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"I voted to leave not because I’m a racist but because I believed our laws should be initiated and instigated in this country not by a European government where one cap should supposedly fit all . Wow. Well done. You voted to achieve something that was already the case. Bravo. It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
Touché
Bit of an over simplification and tabloid journalism sensationalism there bearing fruit in someone mind.
What does that tell you about British Justice then though if it cant stand up to scrutiny in a democratic court.
Touché or touchy, not sure which one.
Over simplification ? Try telling that to the families of the Manchester bombings . A misguided suicidebomber radicalised in our own back yard by the likes of Hamzah the Hook . The cleric who preached race hate on our streets and it took 13 attempts to get him off our shores because of the European court of human rights "Whilst not agreeing with the message Hamzah preached and don't forget neither of us where there to hear his preaching, we only have the stories of our national press to use as fact, and we now know what they can do. In democracy you hear things you might not like or agree with, as long as you don't preach violence (and courts of the UK and Europe eventually agreed he did), then that's democracy. Hamzah told lies at street level to a very very small minority. Our so called free press do it nationally daily on an industrial scale. | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist" Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions! | |||
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"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
First of all, you were talking about ‘initiating’ and ‘instigating’. Those are very different from appealing decisions made in court. Our laws are initiated and instigated here. Written here. Debated here. Enacted here. Enforced here.
As forthe European Court of Appeal, no haven’t heard of that. I have heard of the European Court of Justice, and the European Court of Human Rights, though. Is that what you meant? I’m going to go ahead , make a bold assumption, and assume that you mean the latter.
Like it or not, rights are there for everyone, even ‘every slimeball’ although not their dogs. I think you’ve got a slightly skewed perception of the number of cases that succeed, compared to the number of cases going through our courts on a daily basis.
However, very often, it takes the people you don’t like to challenge things that results in revision of the law that’s better for all. There’s a case, Cadder v HMA, which I imagine is the kind of ‘slimeball’ you’re talking about. The result is that Scotland now has vastly improved criminal justice legislation that improves Police investigatory powers, while tightening up loopholes for the ne’er-do-wells. That’s a good thing, isn’t it?
You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place?"He’s been on Google again. | |||
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"Then there’s the milestone 10,000th judgment – Takhayeva v Russia. In the dead of night, armed persons entered the home of a family living in Chechnya, verbally and physically abused them, and abducted a member of the family. The ECtHR found that Russia had breached the right to life, the right to liberty, and had engaged in inhuman treatment. Is that a bad example if the court??" Absolutely not and I agree with you . But what do you want to do , sit here and debate all cases since it’s formation in1961 ? Anyone can pull a case out and hold it as a exemplar for human rights .European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system . As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge. I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions! "My sentiments entirely | |||
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"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system ." Where’s the evidence for this? Yes, the British Court system is antiquated, but there’s nothing to suggest that ECtHR is making it any worse. As a system of identifying flaws that need to be addressed, it’s doing particularly well. "As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge." You are right. It is very unfortunate that those who did vote motivated by racism/xenophobia tended to vote on one side. I wouldn’t suggest that you are racist based on how you voted. I would, however, suggest that the non-xenophobic arguments for Brexit stand up about as well as the xenophobic ones. "I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? " A case in point. What do you mean by ‘more control’? Post-Brexit we will have significantly less control over a number of matters. As for the NI border issue, I would have hoped you would have some idea what the answer is when you confidently voted for more control over it. | |||
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"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system . Where’s the evidence for this? Yes, the British Court system is antiquated, but there’s nothing to suggest that ECtHR is making it any worse. As a system of identifying flaws that need to be addressed, it’s doing particularly well. As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge. You are right. It is very unfortunate that those who did vote motivated by racism/xenophobia tended to vote on one side. I wouldn’t suggest that you are racist based on how you voted. I would, however, suggest that the non-xenophobic arguments for Brexit stand up about as well as the xenophobic ones. I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? A case in point. What do you mean by ‘more control’? Post-Brexit we will have significantly less control over a number of matters. As for the NI border issue, I would have hoped you would have some idea what the answer is when you confidently voted for more control over it." Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system . I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty | |||
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"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system . Where’s the evidence for this? Yes, the British Court system is antiquated, but there’s nothing to suggest that ECtHR is making it any worse. As a system of identifying flaws that need to be addressed, it’s doing particularly well. As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge. You are right. It is very unfortunate that those who did vote motivated by racism/xenophobia tended to vote on one side. I wouldn’t suggest that you are racist based on how you voted. I would, however, suggest that the non-xenophobic arguments for Brexit stand up about as well as the xenophobic ones. I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? A case in point. What do you mean by ‘more control’? Post-Brexit we will have significantly less control over a number of matters. As for the NI border issue, I would have hoped you would have some idea what the answer is when you confidently voted for more control over it. Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system . I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty " Can i borrow your crystal ball mystic meh? Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face. | |||
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"European court of appeal is in my opinion a dinosaur that has become buried under a deluge of cases that as I said . Every man and his dog is using to slow up an already antiquated British system . Where’s the evidence for this? Yes, the British Court system is antiquated, but there’s nothing to suggest that ECtHR is making it any worse. As a system of identifying flaws that need to be addressed, it’s doing particularly well. As I said earlier the initial point here was did Farage win Brexit .... for others to turn this into a racism issue and say by voting Brexit you are a racist is utter bilge. You are right. It is very unfortunate that those who did vote motivated by racism/xenophobia tended to vote on one side. I wouldn’t suggest that you are racist based on how you voted. I would, however, suggest that the non-xenophobic arguments for Brexit stand up about as well as the xenophobic ones. I’ve never voted for Farage but I vote for more control of our own governance . Border wise I can’t answer the NI issue can anyone ? A case in point. What do you mean by ‘more control’? Post-Brexit we will have significantly less control over a number of matters. As for the NI border issue, I would have hoped you would have some idea what the answer is when you confidently voted for more control over it. Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system . I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty Can i borrow your crystal ball mystic meh? Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face." I don’t need a crystal ball fella it’s old news Greece on its arse , bailed out by the rest of us . Spain and Italy on the verge .... I don’t need a crystal ball . It’s not about hate or wanting other eu members to fail | |||
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"Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system . I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty " Which points would you like addressed? With regard to Abu Hamza; which rights that he used to prolong his stay would you like to do without? I addressed this when I pointed out that these rights are there to protect everyone, including you, and they were largely written by U.K. lawmakers. It’s also worth pointing out that we have ECHR because we’re a member of the Council of Europe. It’s got nothing to do with the EU. We aren’t leaving the Council of Europe, so we will still be bound by ECHR. I’ve done my best to address points without repeating what others have said. I’m certainly not the one dodging the point on how, exactly, anyone could vote to have ‘more control over our borders’ without having a clue how that would be achieved. | |||
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"Farage is one of those odious people who, whilst they may not be racist themselves, are quite well aware that a large part of their support base is and are thus willing to do the necessary dog whistles to convince said base that they are really one of them. See also Powell E. There's a special place in hell reserved for people like that. " Precisely | |||
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"It actually wasn’t . Have you not heard of European court of appeal ?Every slimeball and his dog used it to overturn British court justice .
First of all, you were talking about ‘initiating’ and ‘instigating’. Those are very different from appealing decisions made in court. Our laws are initiated and instigated here. Written here. Debated here. Enacted here. Enforced here.
As forthe European Court of Appeal, no haven’t heard of that. I have heard of the European Court of Justice, and the European Court of Human Rights, though. Is that what you meant? I’m going to go ahead , make a bold assumption, and assume that you mean the latter.
Like it or not, rights are there for everyone, even ‘every slimeball’ although not their dogs. I think you’ve got a slightly skewed perception of the number of cases that succeed, compared to the number of cases going through our courts on a daily basis.
However, very often, it takes the people you don’t like to challenge things that results in revision of the law that’s better for all. There’s a case, Cadder v HMA, which I imagine is the kind of ‘slimeball’ you’re talking about. The result is that Scotland now has vastly improved criminal justice legislation that improves Police investigatory powers, while tightening up loopholes for the ne’er-do-wells. That’s a good thing, isn’t it?
You do realise that decisions are only overturned if they were found to be wrong in the first place, right? Based on a system of rights largely written by U.K. lawmakers in the first place?" | |||
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" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face." I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some. | |||
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" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face.I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some. " In their twisted little universe it somehow justifies brexit. They hate the EU with such venom,it blinds them to anything rational. | |||
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" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face.I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some. In their twisted little universe it somehow justifies brexit. They hate the EU with such venom,it blinds them to anything rational. " It's not about being rational. Joining was forced upon us and even then we never accepted being ruled and giving away our liberties to the Eurocrats. | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us..." So, the 1975 referendum... | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum..." Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves.  | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely "so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist?  | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely
so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? "Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't! I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again. | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely
so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!
I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again."did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum..." We joined in 1973. There was no referendum in 1973 on whether the country wanted to join. | |||
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" Also why do all brexiters want our trading partner(EU) to collapse.Do you hate the EU that much your prepared to cut off your nose to spite your face.I do not understand that either. Perhaps an element of envy in some. Mind you not all Brexiters, just some. " We are the evil bitch girlfriend who has decided to walk out but not only are we walking out because we no longer want our long term partner we want no one else to have them either so we are looking to do the maximum damage possible as we leave. | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely
so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!
I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.
did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist"I will put it in plain english so you can understand Vote Ukip- No Feel guilty- No I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate. I hope you can understand that! | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves. "You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire. | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Can you give examples of why UKIP is a racist party ?" Still waiting | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely
so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!
I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again."Blair and Brown and then the hopeless Miliband played the racist card against Farage and ukip so often it became meaningless. It was used so often it was seen as a bit of a joke in the end, a bit like the boy who cried wolf. Sad that these same Labour supporters who seem to end every sentence by calling someone a racist can't even recognise how racist the Labour party has now become under the leadership of Corbyn with anti semitism rife in the party. | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
My sentiments entirely
so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!
I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.
did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist
I will put it in plain english so you can understand
Vote Ukip- No
Feel guilty- No
I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate.
I hope you can understand that! "racist guilt can be the only reason for you appologism of a known racist party .... otherwise why the fuck would any decent unpstanding person perservere with the defense of racism? your choice .... continue with the racist defense or condemn racism and condemn the known racist kiptard party ... simple | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves. You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire. "Wtf is a kipper Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche? | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
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so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? "Im not justifying them not being racist I’m justifying that a vote for Brexit does NOT make a person a racist .... who said anything about Guilt ? Your words not mine fella . Get your facts right and if you’d read the thread from the start this had nothing to do with racism | |||
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"Why would I have the answer to the border point when you clearly have no answer to points that I and others have raised in this forum . You’ve shown a ‘politicians” disregard for certain statements by being very selective with the quotes from my posts . I gave you an example of the weakness in our system that allows a hate preacher to hide behind an appeals procedure that slows down our already slow system . I couldn’t care less on your views on Farage or why we should’ve stayed . Right or wrong who knows . But as others have said time will tell . We won’t be the last to leave that’s a certainty Which points would you like addressed? With regard to Abu Hamza; which rights that he used to prolong his stay would you like to do without? I addressed this when I pointed out that these rights are there to protect everyone, including you, and they were largely written by U.K. lawmakers. It’s also worth pointing out that we have ECHR because we’re a member of the Council of Europe. It’s got nothing to do with the EU. We aren’t leaving the Council of Europe, so we will still be bound by ECHR. I’ve done my best to address points without repeating what others have said. I’m certainly not the one dodging the point on how, exactly, anyone could vote to have ‘more control over our borders’ without having a clue how that would be achieved." It's the European Court of Justice which pertains to membership of the EU. Suggest you do some research and educate yourself a bit. | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves. You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire.
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
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so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist?
Im not justifying them not being racist I’m justifying that a vote for Brexit does NOT make a person a racist .... who said anything about Guilt ? Your words not mine fella . Get your facts right and if you’d read the thread from the start this had nothing to do with racism "apart from you continuing to defend the known to be racist kiptard party | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves. You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire.
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Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
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so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist?
Im not justifying them not being racist I’m justifying that a vote for Brexit does NOT make a person a racist .... who said anything about Guilt ? Your words not mine fella . Get your facts right and if you’d read the thread from the start this had nothing to do with racism
apart from you continuing to defend the known to be racist kiptard party "This is your answer to close any argument down, but you still haven’t backed it up with facts! | |||
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"why do racist kiptards attempt to close down the debate on racism? .... you voted ukip ergo you voted for a known racist party .... just be truthful to yourself and come to terms with the fact that you are racist Why do you and others try to stifle the debate on reasons for leaving the EU by putting it all down to racism and I have never voted Ukip before you jump to conclusions!
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so if the pair of you didn't vote for the the known to be racist kipturds, why the fuck are you feeling so guilty that you feel the need to defend yourself when the kiptards are rightly and justly called out for being racist? Who said they feel guilty? I certainly don't!
I just pointed out it's people like you who try to stop debate by using the racist tag over and over again.
did you vote kipturd? if as you say you didn't then it must be a guilt thing or why would you feel the need to respond to the kipturds being correctly labeled as racist
I will put it in plain english so you can understand
Vote Ukip- No
Feel guilty- No
I am responding to someone who continually uses the race card to try and stop debate.
I hope you can understand that!
racist guilt can be the only reason for you appologism of a known racist party .... otherwise why the fuck would any decent unpstanding person perservere with the defense of racism? your choice .... continue with the racist defense or condemn racism and condemn the known racist kiptard party ... simple "You sound like a really decent upstanding person always trying to label people racist because they don't agree with you! No apologies or guilt needed from me!  | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... Not the referendum but how it's being run. The Germans have far too much power and run the show. Sorry but our grandparents would all turn in their graves. You'll find your grandparents fought against Nazis and racism and fascism and would be horrified at you kippers and the xenophobic Nationalism.My grandfathers gutted the far right on the beaches of Normandy and wouldn't of pissed on a kipper if he was on fire.
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Try living in the real world sprechen de deutsche?
And our grandparents fought to save us from oppression."My grandfather was in the RAF during WW2 and another relative of mine was in the parachute regiment. They both fought for this country to remain a free, independent sovereign country, something which we could never be in the EU. They didn't fight that war for chinless wonders like Blair and Cameron to come along and offer UK sovereignty over to the EU on a plate. Millions of Brits died for this country to remain free and independent. When the country voted Leave in 2016 it was Farage who coined the phrase 'independence day' as we regained our freedom, sovereignty and independence from the EU. A great day in British history which i will celebrate every year for the rest of my life and Farage played a huge part in it. We owe Farage a debt of gratitude. | |||
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"All ukippers have racial element in them They just st don’t want to admit it Fuck the lit of you " There speaks the voice of reason!!! | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person" .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists "I have neither defended or apologised for racists you are just reading that in to it as the really decent upstanding person you claim to be!! | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists "If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything. | |||
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"If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything. "absolutely superlative post | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists "No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts ! | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century" Bollocks | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century" blowing the trumpet for confirmed racists | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century" Blow the tuba that’s full of wind as well | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists
No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts !"I don't know Bambi ,i seem to remember a brexiter standing over the lifeless body of Joe Cox and hours before ukip unveiled its breaking point poster.If you think Kippers didn't whip up murderous xenophobic hatred you are incredibly ignorant and an apologist. | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century blowing the trumpet for confirmed racists " Tedious | |||
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"i seem to remember a brexiter standing over the lifeless body of Joe Cox and hours before ukip unveiled its breaking point poster.If you think Kippers didn't whip up murderous xenophobic hatred you are incredibly ignorant and an apologist." accurate facts ... excellent post | |||
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" You sound like a really decent upstanding person .... and that is an irrefutable fact because i condemn racism where ever it exists instead of defending or appologising for racists
No substance to your arguments, just accusing people without anything to back it up with, show me the facts !
I don't know Bambi ,i seem to remember a brexiter standing over the lifeless body of Joe Cox and hours before ukip unveiled its breaking point poster.If you think Kippers didn't whip up murderous xenophobic hatred you are incredibly ignorant and an apologist."Spot on I hope the kippers understand this evil fuckers | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century Bollocks " I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree... I might quibble over the 'important' bit, but I think there's a bloody string case for most influential. Consider who the competition are: Blair - legacy (in a nutshell) was New Labour and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the former being fairly significant and the latters par for the course. Brown - unfairly blamed for the GFC, little real legacy to speak of. Cameron and Osborne - austerity. May - fuck all. Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really. | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century" I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things. | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things...." ... and he's a monumentally racist bellend | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century Bollocks I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree... I might quibble over the 'important' bit, but I think there's a bloody string case for most influential. Consider who the competition are: Blair - legacy (in a nutshell) was New Labour and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the former being fairly significant and the latters par for the course. Brown - unfairly blamed for the GFC, little real legacy to speak of. Cameron and Osborne - austerity. May - fuck all. Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really." I can see where you are coming from - would just like to add that there are people in this country who continue to change it forever and for better. Attenborough is one of them. | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.... ... and he's a monumentally racist bellend "Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to say | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.... ... and he's a monumentally racist bellend "Guess what was on his word of the day toilet roll this morning ! | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.... ... and he's a monumentally racist bellend
Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to say"I think he is (was) rather one of the loudest. That does not make him the most influential in the long term though. You could argue Angela Merkel has been very influential,too (whether you like her or not is irrelevant) Time will tell I guess. | |||
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" Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most monumental racist bellend" FIFY .... no need to thank me | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things." Different century | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.... ... and he's a monumentally racist bellend
Oh, I hate the fucker, but I think it's a fair comment - he probably *is* the most influential politician of the 21st Century, sad to sayI think he is (was) rather one of the loudest. That does not make him the most influential in the long term though. You could argue Angela Merkel has been very influential,too (whether you like her or not is irrelevant) Time will tell I guess. "I was assuming we were talking British politicians, but I take your point | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century I could name a few politicians that can claim a long term "effect on politics", not just in the UK. Hitler changed Germany forever, Mussolini changed Italy forever, Stalin changed Russia forever. Just some (negative) examples. Changing a country forever is not in itself a quality. Changing it for the better, however, is. That unfortunately cannot be said for Farage, who in my view lacks personal integrity amongst other things.Different century" I am aware of that, I was just giving (negative) examples of some politicians who were said to have shaped their country. And lets face it in 2018 we are not even a quarter through this century and there are people like Trump competing for the title. | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future "You think he is in competition with Trump? | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future "That's hyperbole | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future You think he is in competition with Trump?"no ... i know he's a racist bellend | |||
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"Joining was forced upon us... So, the 1975 referendum... We joined in 1973. There was no referendum in 1973 on whether the country wanted to join." Quite. There aren’t referendums in many things that the country does. There was the 1975 referendum, though, which indicated significant support fro remaining in the EEC, at about 2:1. If it was ‘forced’ upon the populace, against their will, you would think that result would be somewhat different, wouldn’t you? "It's the European Court of Justice which pertains to membership of the EU. Suggest you do some research and educate yourself a bit. " I think you have misunderstood. The topic at hand (forgive the pun) was Abu Hamza, whose delayed extradition somebody had raised as an example of why we should leave the EU. His extradition was delayed by ECtHR, based on ECHR, which has nothing to do with the EU. I was pointing out why it is a bad example. You are right that ECJ pertains to EU law, but it has nothing to do with what was being discussed. You might want to check what you’re saying before you tell me to educate myself. | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future "He is married to a German lady | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future He is married to a German lady"so was adolf hitler and he was marignally less of a monumentally racist bellend ... but thanks for your thoughts caller | |||
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"Whatever happens he has changed Britain forever and therefore is the most important and influencial polition of the 21st century Bollocks I can't abide the man, but I'd happen to agree... I might quibble over the 'important' bit, but I think there's a bloody string case for most influential. Consider who the competition are: Blair - legacy (in a nutshell) was New Labour and the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, the former being fairly significant and the latters par for the course. Brown - unfairly blamed for the GFC, little real legacy to speak of. Cameron and Osborne - austerity. May - fuck all. Who has had the same level of impact on British politics since 2000? Nobody really.I can see where you are coming from - would just like to add that there are people in this country who continue to change it forever and for better. Attenborough is one of them." Outside of politics our academics like Attenborough and hawkings and professor Brian Cox have a positive influence on our culture and globally we are respected for nurturing and giving such educators to the world.Farage isn't a global player or an intellectual and represents nothing positive. | |||
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"Outside of politics our academics like Attenborough and hawkings and professor Brian Cox have a positive influence on our culture and globally we are respected for nurturing and giving such educators to the world.Farage isn't a global player or an intellectual and represents nothing positive." true ... he's just a less than average fat sweaty racist bastard | |||
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"Rivetting No wonder so many complain about not getting meets when there are posts like these "Nice. You stay classy. | |||
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"Nigel farage apparently thinks the only reason Harry married Megan is because he is a rebel and he will never be king anyways. Is that right?" I don't have Prince Harry on speed dial so I don't know . I might suggest a plausible alternative though. Maybe they love each other . | |||
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"he's the most racist bellend of any century ... past, present or future He is married to a German lady
so was adolf hitler and he was marignally less of a monumentally racist bellend ... but thanks for your thoughts caller "I doubt you would think that if you had been in one of his concentration camps! What a ridiculous comment to make, try to engage your brain before typing, thats if you have one! | |||
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