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Ban Combustible building cladding or start a consultation?

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
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over a year ago

Central

Almost a year after the Grenfell Tower fire killed 71 people, the government has stated that it may open a consultation on future use of it, potentially banning it. Labour has called for it to be banned.

Should another consultation happen, costing public funds of course, or is it clear that combustible materials as cladding is dangerous, especially on high rise buildings and it should be banned?

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool (2nts)

Ban, with long jail time for those that install it post implentation date.

When it fails, it turns a high rise into nothing but a giant Roman candle.

Death trap in the making.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Ban, with long jail time for those that install it post implentation date.

When it fails, it turns a high rise into nothing but a giant Roman candle.

Death trap in the making.

"

How do you know that?

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
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over a year ago

Central


"Ban, with long jail time for those that install it post implentation date.

When it fails, it turns a high rise into nothing but a giant Roman candle.

Death trap in the making.

How do you know that?"

Experience and intelligence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban, with long jail time for those that install it post implentation date.

When it fails, it turns a high rise into nothing but a giant Roman candle.

Death trap in the making.

How do you know that?

Experience and intelligence?"

I saw a documentary on it the building regs are out of date and inadequate. Apparently it's possible to do a "desktop study" of materials? Basically the original fire test result stands but you can swap one cladding for another (layman's terms). It's a lot cheaper this way but as has been proved not the safest.

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By *alldarksurreyMan
over a year ago

surrey

Virtually every building site I've been on has used Celotex in the walls and roofs, it is a excellent insulator but as soon as it touches a flame it instantly ignites whilst producing black acrid smoke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Burn baby burn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The cladding is not the issue its the facade

The whole system was installed incorectly.

There should have been fire stops around each window and there wasnt any fitted

There should have been fire stops horizontally and vertically,none installed.

So effectivelly the whole installation accted like a chimney.

The actual PIR cladding behind the facade did its job, if you look at the pictures/footage you can see the PIR insulation charred which is what it is meant to do.

The facade was made up of plastic celotex tiles,which everyone knows is highly flammable.

No flammable material should be used in external cladding especially on hi rise buildings.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

problem is until the penalties for selling or using substandard products are so draconian for directors and owners of companies that it is not worth taking the the risk in using such products then public businesses, their owners and controllers, who have only one aime and that is to make as much profit for the least investment possible, will continue to play fast and loose with safety regulations regardless of the risks.

There is no need for new laws or regulations all that is needed is to change the penalties and enforce the laws and regulation we already have. But that would require politicians and political parties to grow backbones and remove their snouts from the trough. I for one do not see that happening soon.

As a postscript I hear that on the first anniversary of the Grenfell Tower disaster there are still over 100 families who were made homeless who have not been found a new permanent home and many of them are in hotels, hostels and homeless shelters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Impose a ban until the enquiry is complete.

From there use this as a step to update building standards and regulation if need be

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