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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all " And the solution to all the above is... | |||
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"what maddens me most is the idiots who say it doesn't matter whether they vote or not so they cant be bothered, if they could be made to face the people over the centuries who have died trying to fight for democracy and see what they think about it then " . Meh  | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all " And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!! | |||
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"And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!!" I concede it may be. However there is a big difference between the Labour and Tory parties: If we found ourselves in the same situation under Labour it would be caused by either outside forces beyond the governments control or by error (we all make mistakes at times), but with the Tories we find ourselves in this position because it is the policy they have been pursuing for 40 years! No mistakes, no errors, just the result of deliberate government economic and social policy. That you seem (by your very post) to be unable to grasp that there is no difference between todays Tories and the ones that introduced the poll tax and destroyed our industrial and manufacturing base in the midlands and north leading to massive civil unrest in the early 80s, the riots of 81 and the national coal strike of 84, says much. But let me help you, what the Tories did to the industry of the midlands and north while protecting the economy of the south east (their core supporters territory) in the 80s they have now been doing to the physical and social infrastructure of country for the last 8 years. We all have a choice in 10 days time we can vote for change and remove Tories across the country or we can vote for more of the same. Personally I would rather my politicians harmed the majority of the population through making mistakes than doing so by deliberate acts driven my ideology and malice. | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. " . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back  | |||
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"Maybe old jc will save the day ..after all he promises everyone everything if u vote for him ...still only 4 years to wait then u can vote for the UK saviour...lol x" Another 4 years, the old codger may have kicked the bucket by then. | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back "So what's your solution? | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!!" Why is labour the other party you think of? So you'd rather accept the future is dim so we'll vote for dim. Maybe a coalition is the answer? In the Netherlands they had coalitions for decades. It's a mixed government weighing the different views. | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!! Why is labour the other party you think of? So you'd rather accept the future is dim so we'll vote for dim. Maybe a coalition is the answer? In the Netherlands they had coalitions for decades. It's a mixed government weighing the different views." We do have coalitions here. We had a Tory/Lib dem coalition from 2010 to 2015 and we've got a Tory/DUP coalition of sorts now. | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!! Why is labour the other party you think of? So you'd rather accept the future is dim so we'll vote for dim. Maybe a coalition is the answer? In the Netherlands they had coalitions for decades. It's a mixed government weighing the different views. We do have coalitions here. We had a Tory/Lib dem coalition from 2010 to 2015 and we've got a Tory/DUP coalition of sorts now. " With 3 or 4 parties with equal seats 10-20% | |||
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"Don't think there's one solution to that. But a start would be stopping people being able to pay for access to government ministers. Closing the revolving door between government and business. Centrally funding parties, and member funding party conferences rather than having meetings sponsored by interested businesses. Large restrictions on lobbying. " Sounds vaguely familiar...oh yes, the EU, except on a much much larger scale! | |||
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"P R would be a start ! Then all votes would count !!!" And UKIP would have more seats than the SNP! | |||
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"P R would be a start ! Then all votes would count !!! And UKIP would have more seats than the SNP!" True, but it would have been fair. | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!! Why is labour the other party you think of? So you'd rather accept the future is dim so we'll vote for dim. Maybe a coalition is the answer? In the Netherlands they had coalitions for decades. It's a mixed government weighing the different views. We do have coalitions here. We had a Tory/Lib dem coalition from 2010 to 2015 and we've got a Tory/DUP coalition of sorts now. " True but the two main party's have too much power! We need a fairer society one where every vote counts - be it green or independent or whatever! I would like "common sense" politics - it doesn't matter who suggested it, but if it's good for the country then do it! | |||
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"Will PR fix it? Voting for the EU Parliament is done on a PR basis yet there is still lobbying, corporate bungs and revolving door between MEPs/European Commission and businesses. What we need are honest politicians. Unfortunately these are few and far between!" Well it's obviously not working with what we have! | |||
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"When you have a government who doesn't care for old people doesn't care for homeless people doesn't care for disabled people doesn't care for young people doesn't care for children doesn't care for education doesn't care for housing doesn't care for policing doesn't care for safe roads doesn't care for the NHS doesn't care for local transport doesn't care for young families doesn't care for charities doesn't care for the working classes doesn't care for local councils doesn't care about the poor quality rented housing in this country doesn't care that we have the poorest wifi system in Europe doesn't care that we have the poorest mobile phone connections in Europe doesn't care for the enterpreuner We have so many town centres dying of proper investment and making councils have to charge higher rates because they cut the money from your government to provide for local services so you are paying twice for the things you cannot live without etc etc etc Does care for the wealthy Does care for the hierarchy Does care for the priveledged Does care for private education Does care for non taxing paying companies Does care for Londons wealthy areas etc etc etc and what amazes me for one is that many working class people vote for them and last time they said that it was because the country was in debt and it was terrible to be so, so what difference does the country being in debt by a few billion pounds more when borrowing money is at its lowest, the reason for this money strategy is not about debt but about getting rid of the social security that people need to live on because of the lack of investment and education and lack of training for our young not so well offs lets hope the people of this country finally see sense and get rid of this lot once and for all And dont you think the same could be said if Labour where in power !!!!!! Why is labour the other party you think of? So you'd rather accept the future is dim so we'll vote for dim. Maybe a coalition is the answer? In the Netherlands they had coalitions for decades. It's a mixed government weighing the different views. We do have coalitions here. We had a Tory/Lib dem coalition from 2010 to 2015 and we've got a Tory/DUP coalition of sorts now. True but the two main party's have too much power! We need a fairer society one where every vote counts - be it green or independent or whatever! I would like "common sense" politics - it doesn't matter who suggested it, but if it's good for the country then do it!" As a ukip supporter I'm all in favour of a proportional representation voting system. Ukip would've got over 80 MP's in the 2016 General election and we would've had a Tory/Ukip coalition rather than a David Cameron majority Tory government. | |||
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"They are all in it for themselves x" Corbyn claimed £9 in expenses last year. | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? ".I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter. | |||
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"The £9 expenses claim is fake news. "Well fake I'm afraid. £9 was actually £167593.35. All MPs need a constituency office , staff and all that's associated with that. | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
"So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way! | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way!". The system is way too big and intertwined to be changed now, we fiddle around with income tax by tuppence as if it makes any fucking difference!. The changes required are beyond political ability | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way!.
The system is way too big and intertwined to be changed now, we fiddle around with income tax by tuppence as if it makes any fucking difference!.
The changes required are beyond political ability"The Revolution will be forced upon us by mother nature . | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way!.
The system is way too big and intertwined to be changed now, we fiddle around with income tax by tuppence as if it makes any fucking difference!.
The changes required are beyond political ability
The Revolution will be forced upon us by mother nature . ". It's just sad that we just leave things till they break down and then ask,"how did it come to this" | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way!.
The system is way too big and intertwined to be changed now, we fiddle around with income tax by tuppence as if it makes any fucking difference!.
The changes required are beyond political ability
The Revolution will be forced upon us by mother nature . .
It's just sad that we just leave things till they break down and then ask,"how did it come to this""The Romans probably said the same as they watched their empire crumble to dust.We have a knack as a species not seeing what's right infront of us til it's to late. I blame the fact that our political and state institutions can't keep up with the pace of our scientific and technological advances.Its probably the true explanation for the Fermi paradox. | |||
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"Unfortunately I think the UK political system is out of date for a modern democracy and neither Labour or Conservative want to change it as the system favours both of them! Tories & Labour alike look after themselves first. As soon as they are elected they have joined the gravy train and want to stay on it for as long as possible. Fuck the country - and most do it's all about them, greed takes over sadly. . Welcome, you've woken from your government induced coma like state. Here sit down, you might feel funny until the feelings come back
So what's your solution? .I haven't got any solutions for you and more importantly even if they exist you should stop looking for them! Because in the end it doesn't really matter.
So we let the status quo carry on! No wonder the country is going down the pan because we stick to the old ways. Just because "we have always done it like that" - doesn't mean it's right or the best way!.
The system is way too big and intertwined to be changed now, we fiddle around with income tax by tuppence as if it makes any fucking difference!.
The changes required are beyond political ability
The Revolution will be forced upon us by mother nature . .
It's just sad that we just leave things till they break down and then ask,"how did it come to this" The Romans probably said the same as they watched their empire crumble to dust.We have a knack as a species not seeing what's right infront of us til it's to late.
I blame the fact that our political and state institutions can't keep up with the pace of our scientific and technological advances.Its probably the true explanation for the Fermi paradox. ". Ooh I think all the lines are converging in the very near future. It will be a combined attack of monetary, debt, societal, energy, population, food, resources and technology.. The infamous climate change hockey stick graph funnily enough is pretty much replicated on any of the above, theres a certain something "Gaia" to it all | |||
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" And the solution to all the above is..." Pretty simple really Stop funding the military industrial complex, make multinationals pay the 'proper' tax due and stop allowing the elite to keep their money tax free off shore | |||
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"if you read what i actually said was that i could not believe the british people have changed so much over the last 40 years from a people who worked hard but wanted fairness in the country to one who thinks money is god, labels on goods to show where you stand in society are worn like medals, that we persecute our poorer weaker fragile people just to save money, and are destroying the things that Britain was proud of and are now kidding everyone into thinking the rest of the world still looking to trade with us because our products are superior to other nations, they are only looking to trade with the cheapest and what that means is the lowest waged society, guess who is going to suffer when the companies say we have to reduce our costs to compete ( the wealthy ????) i do not think so " I'm not going to argue with someone who puts such a cute, sexy arse on their public profile pics. 
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