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Can you control fake news?.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Of what is real or not? Especially now with russia that is pumping out news as they say, should you draw a line under it and look at different sources to make up your own mind, what is your view?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Of course fake news can be controlled, just make the owners editors and journalists who publish fake news criminally responsible, make the penalties the same as drug dealing (including seizure of property) and the problem will disappear overnight.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Russia is simply catching up with the west.

Cyber ops has been part of the western armoury for years.

We are less aware of it because it has been other countries that have been on the receiving end, notably the Middle East.

It is the digital version of leaflet drops with a more authentic twist.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

There is a recent podcast from Kings College London's Department of War Studies called "Fake News - A Road Map" it's a very good listen. They also produced a 78 page book to go with it.

It points out that fake news was originally outlawed by the government of Charles I!

Their points about the difference between misinformation and disinformation were good to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a recent podcast from Kings College London's Department of War Studies called "Fake News - A Road Map" it's a very good listen. They also produced a 78 page book to go with it.

It points out that fake news was originally outlawed by the government of Charles I!

Their points about the difference between misinformation and disinformation were good to. "
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Probably wanted all those conspiracy theorists about the gunpowder plot shutting up

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester

If it was made illegal to publish falsehoods, every newspaper would go under overnight as would most websites. Let's face it there are lots of people out there who will take a meme as solid evidence or a YouTube video as absolute proof. Maybe the problem is too big now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we are all entitled to believe whatever makes us happy.Regardless of consequences we all live in own tiny world of self affirmation and on our manifested personal truths.There are no absolute truths.

As Thatcher said.There is no society there is only individual men and women.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"If it was made illegal to publish falsehoods, every newspaper would go under overnight as would most websites. Let's face it there are lots of people out there who will take a meme as solid evidence or a YouTube video as absolute proof. Maybe the problem is too big now? "

So I am right, just there is no appetite amongst the world population for honest reporting of fact when it contradicts prejudice, opinion and feeling.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Of course fake news can be controlled, just make the owners editors and journalists who publish fake news criminally responsible, make the penalties the same as drug dealing (including seizure of property) and the problem will disappear overnight. "
Hmm so what do we do when Russia puts out fake news?Do we invade them and lock Putin up lol.Nothing you can do about it,the best way to control it is to sensor the internet,ban facebook twitter etc maybe

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Hmm so what do we do when Russia puts out fake news?Do we invade them and lock Putin up lol.Nothing you can do about it,the best way to control it is to sensor the internet,ban facebook twitter etc maybe"

Maybe size the £200 BILLION we know he has invested through dummy corporations in property in London and financial investments in the City of London...

Just a thought...

And as for Russian hackers and the internet, how about turning them (as in all Russian content) off in the same way as China turn off internet content they do not approve of.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it's wise to source your news selectively and appropriately first and foremost.

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over a year ago

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

Fake news is one of the big challenges of the next few years.

One of the drawbacks of the internet is that it allows people to spend even more time in their own echo chamber. And people and politics have got more partisan as this has continued. Its more about "my side" than whats right and wrong. We can see a good example of that with people siding with an accussed child mole$tor in Roy Moore when if his politics were different his supporters would be looking for blood.

We need to hold publishers more accountable particularly print and tv journalism. And as people we need to both call out fake news when we see it and be aware of our own biases as much as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our British broadcast use fake news nearly all the time with no lack of evidence they caused a lot of problems and if exposed they cover it up. A lot of people don't ask questions and its normally to sides to a story and they just take their word for it. I never believe what the BBC shows they told so many lies in the past

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Probably one of the biggest things that could be done to combat it would be helping to educate people to critically analyse what they are reading and hearing. Quite a challenge when we are immersed in so much information.

One of the main problems is that the term ‘fake news’ has now been hijacked to mean ‘something I don’t agree with’. And when you have the likes of Trump calling everything fake news it will be hard to combat it.

You remember Drop The Dead Donkey? Damian Day putting kids shoes in a pile of rubble for a report? That is fake news.

-Matt

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I think it's wise to source your news selectively and appropriately first and foremost. "

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Our British broadcast use fake news nearly all the time with no lack of evidence they caused a lot of problems and if exposed they cover it up. A lot of people don't ask questions and its normally to sides to a story and they just take their word for it. I never believe what the BBC shows they told so many lies in the past

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I think lies is the wrong word,they may direct you in a certain way but they do basically tell the truth

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"Our British broadcast use fake news nearly all the time with no lack of evidence they caused a lot of problems and if exposed they cover it up. A lot of people don't ask questions and its normally to sides to a story and they just take their word for it. I never believe what the BBC shows they told so many lies in the past

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Every journalist and publication will make mistakes or have a bad actor at some stage.

The BBC have a great reputation worldwide and they have a very public complaints process. This is the benefit of having a public broadcaster.

Its also pretty ironic that you accuse the Bbc of publishing things with no evidence and then you post no evidence to back up your points.

So: what makes you think the BBC has a higher rate of errors or lies than other national broadcasters?

Also, I am the only one that finds it wierd that an alledgedly native Brit referred to the BBC as our British broadcasting in the first line? Apart from not having the full title in there I have literally never heard anyone in real life say or write the full name...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is the difference between fake news and propaganda x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Of what is real or not? Especially now with russia that is pumping out news as they say, should you draw a line under it and look at different sources to make up your own mind, what is your view? "

I did see an ex royal navy admiral who was criticised by the news presenter on bbc news for not towing the government line that the latest alleged chemical attack wasn't a definite one. So, propaganda / fake news can cut both ways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Also, I am the only one that finds it wierd that an alledgedly native Brit referred to the BBC as our British broadcasting in the first line? Apart from not having the full title in there I have literally never heard anyone in real life say or write the full name..."

I think you must be. The thread you are referring to isn't written in what I would describe as plain English so what can you expect?

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