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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Is the UK fair and equal to all 4 countries ? Or a dictatorship ?

Seems some on here believe England have the biggest right to how the UK is run because of population

When did Scotland Wales and NI become colonies of England ?

Do people honestly wonder why so many of us want to leave the UK with people like this ?

Unionism is getting very dark and nasty

Even actively saying there could be violence if Northern Ireland wanted to have a united Ireland with the south shocking that is the tactic to try and keep the UK union together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum."

Once in a generation . Mr Salmond said it was a once in a lifetime opertunity to gain independance not a once in a lifetime referendum .

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Hear what's said here:https://youtu.be/nuQP4XeMngc

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Once in a generation . Mr Salmond said it was a once in a lifetime opertunity to gain independance not a once in a lifetime referendum . "

Ah the " once in a generation "or lifetime btw yiu lot need to make your mind up what your gona call it and stick it one eh lol

Now in a democracy things change correct ? So things have changed not my fault better Together lied to no voters claiming their EU membersship is over safe in the UK its not correct ? Lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum."

Things can change in a democracy

Do deny people their wishes in a democracy is being very anti democratic when did Uk become nazi Germany ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Oh and Scotland isnt a colony then at least respect the Scottish wishes that we in Scotland the voters voted to elect a party with a manifesto policy to hold a referendum on independence that the democratic wishes of Scotland

The unionist side can still state their case on why the UK is the best option i aint afraid of that challenge would relish exposing the unionist lies but seems the unionists are afraid of democracy incase they have to wave cheerio to their wee UK union

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't we already had this thread? Like 2 days ago? By the same OP? Oh no. That was

"Who believes the UK is an equal union?" Totally different. Silly me...

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Once in a generation . Mr Salmond said it was a once in a lifetime opertunity to gain independance not a once in a lifetime referendum .

Ah the " once in a generation "or lifetime btw yiu lot need to make your mind up what your gona call it and stick it one eh lol

Now in a democracy things change correct ? So things have changed not my fault better Together lied to no voters claiming their EU membersship is over safe in the UK its not correct ? Lol"

I'm so sorry Kinky but we're just using the phrases former and present SNP leaders have used!

Salmond and Sturgeon used both 'generation' and 'lifetime'.

Your former and current First Ministers couldn't make their minds up so please forgive us mere mortals if we can't do the same!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Haven't we already had this thread? Like 2 days ago? By the same OP? Oh no. That was

"Who believes the UK is an equal union?" Totally different. Silly me... "

Why comment ignore and move on or you wanting attention ? Lol

Hope you have a lovely morning though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Once in a generation . Mr Salmond said it was a once in a lifetime opertunity to gain independance not a once in a lifetime referendum .

Ah the " once in a generation "or lifetime btw yiu lot need to make your mind up what your gona call it and stick it one eh lol

Now in a democracy things change correct ? So things have changed not my fault better Together lied to no voters claiming their EU membersship is over safe in the UK its not correct ? Lol

I'm so sorry Kinky but we're just using the phrases former and present SNP leaders have used!

Salmond and Sturgeon used both 'generation' and 'lifetime'.

Your former and current First Ministers couldn't make their minds up so please forgive us mere mortals if we can't do the same!

"

And the people have power the MP and MSP remember represent us we elect them to deliver on their policies

My opinion you lot are anti democratic

Like i said things change in a democracy

I mean what you saying if it is oroven to yiu ScotlNd is being seriously damaged through stsying in the union you believe its just a case of shrugging the shoulders and accepting it for 10 20 30 years until someone finally says you can have a referendum again ?

So in a unionist mind who gets to decide when this generation is ? How many years to Scotland have to suffer until we are allowed one ?

The fact you think Westminster which has a majority of English mps get to dictate to the Scottish people when we can have a referendum just shows you everything thst is wrong and corrupt and your pish UK union

We in Scotland Wales abd NI do not live under English rule!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haven't we already had this thread? Like 2 days ago? By the same OP? Oh no. That was

"Who believes the UK is an equal union?" Totally different. Silly me...

Why comment ignore and move on or you wanting attention ? Lol

Hope you have a lovely morning though"

Aww aren't you sweet patronising me? Guess you have learned that from all the patronising replies you receive. Which is pretty much every one hahaha

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go "

Nope do not tell me to shit up move on if you dont like the thread

Alot of bullies in this fourm trying to gag people and single me out but its fine for others to start threads

Like i said if you dont agree or like my threads move on and ignore it doesnt bother me but i wont ever be told what i can or cannot say ok

Yeah i will stand up to bullies

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Haven't we already had this thread? Like 2 days ago? By the same OP? Oh no. That was

"Who believes the UK is an equal union?" Totally different. Silly me...

Why comment ignore and move on or you wanting attention ? Lol

Hope you have a lovely morning though

Aww aren't you sweet patronising me? Guess you have learned that from all the patronising replies you receive. Which is pretty much every one hahaha "

Not patronising just saying why comment just move on and ignore if you dont like my threads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hypothetical question... I know Kinky doesn't like them but I'll ask anyway.

Scotland has been independent for four years and after an election the SNP are no longer in power.

There are calls for a referendum on rejoining the United Kingdom.

Do you agree there should be a referendum?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Hypothetical question... I know Kinky doesn't like them but I'll ask anyway.

Scotland has been independent for four years and after an election the SNP are no longer in power.

There are calls for a referendum on rejoining the United Kingdom.

Do you agree there should be a referendum?"

Well that would be democracy wouldnt it ? Something unionists are actively trying to stop right now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hypothetical question... I know Kinky doesn't like them but I'll ask anyway.

Scotland has been independent for four years and after an election the SNP are no longer in power.

There are calls for a referendum on rejoining the United Kingdom.

Do you agree there should be a referendum?

Well that would be democracy wouldnt it ? Something unionists are actively trying to stop right now lol "

Do you agree there should be a referendum?

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"Hypothetical question... I know Kinky doesn't like them but I'll ask anyway.

Scotland has been independent for four years and after an election the SNP are no longer in power.

There are calls for a referendum on rejoining the United Kingdom.

Do you agree there should be a referendum?"

And if the answer was no and the snp weren’t in power after another four years could we have another ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Hypothetical question... I know Kinky doesn't like them but I'll ask anyway.

Scotland has been independent for four years and after an election the SNP are no longer in power.

There are calls for a referendum on rejoining the United Kingdom.

Do you agree there should be a referendum?

Well that would be democracy wouldnt it ? Something unionists are actively trying to stop right now lol

Do you agree there should be a referendum?"

It would be democratic yeah

Again its something unionists right now are actively trying to stop afraid democracy on action through fear they will lose their UK union

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Following your ‘logic’ we should have another referendum and then maybe 6 months have another one to reverse the decision of the first one, etc, etc. It is quite reasonable to suggest leaving it at least a generation, momentous decisions like these just lead to uncertainty and a lack of investment, this causes a reduction in national wealth and means we are all worse off. It was a clear no to independence in Scotland, so perhaps it is time to move to an alternative stream of threads?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Some clearly dont get democracy lol

Its the people that decide when we want a referendum

Who do you suppose gets to decide when a generation will be ?

Like i said say its proven without a shadow if a doubt to you all that Scotland is being seriously damaged by being in the UK are you honestly saying we should just wait year and years till that generation period runs out ? Thats mental!

If you do not like the thread move on and ignore i wont stop because people are bullying me into stopping with threads i want to post if you dont like them thats ok just ignore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'll get a referendum when Westminster says you can.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"You'll get a referendum when Westminster says you can."

No we aint under English rule

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some clearly dont get democracy lol

Its the people that decide when we want a referendum

Who do you suppose gets to decide when a generation will be ?

Like i said say its proven without a shadow if a doubt to you all that Scotland is being seriously damaged by being in the UK are you honestly saying we should just wait year and years till that generation period runs out ? Thats mental!

If you do not like the thread move on and ignore i wont stop because people are bullying me into stopping with threads i want to post if you dont like them thats ok just ignore

"

It is how a representative democracy works. As it has been said, it’s not for “people” to decide when a referendum is needed as there would be a continual referenda and countries simply cannot function that way.

I’m slightly confused by you saying it’s proven that Scotland is being damaged by the UK union whilst also proudly proclaiming that the Scottish people enjoy “free” prescriptions, “free” higher education and it had been claimed by your fellow Scots that policing is best in Scotland, housing is more affordable and you have a better standard of living than the rest of us.

As you say, things change in a democracy, but you refuse to believe that should you gain independence, that any of the policies which allow you to enjoy the above would change. No no no, it’s SNP policy now to keep free prescriptions; therefore, it will always be thus.

You use very strong and absolute terms “proven without a doubt” without any sources, whilst asking others for evidence which suggests they are 100% correct.

I respect that you have an opinion but I do think that this is what is wrong with politics now. It’s not a conversation or debate or learning that you want by starting these threads, it’s just a vehicle for you to vent dogmatic views and that’s why you receive frustrated replies. Your opinion will never change, even if everyone in Scotland lived in gold houses while in the UK, you would just complain that Scotland is heavier than England and so it’s unfair.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Some clearly dont get democracy lol

Its the people that decide when we want a referendum

Who do you suppose gets to decide when a generation will be ?

Like i said say its proven without a shadow if a doubt to you all that Scotland is being seriously damaged by being in the UK are you honestly saying we should just wait year and years till that generation period runs out ? Thats mental!

If you do not like the thread move on and ignore i wont stop because people are bullying me into stopping with threads i want to post if you dont like them thats ok just ignore

It is how a representative democracy works. As it has been said, it’s not for “people” to decide when a referendum is needed as there would be a continual referenda and countries simply cannot function that way.

I’m slightly confused by you saying it’s proven that Scotland is being damaged by the UK union whilst also proudly proclaiming that the Scottish people enjoy “free” prescriptions, “free” higher education and it had been claimed by your fellow Scots that policing is best in Scotland, housing is more affordable and you have a better standard of living than the rest of us.

As you say, things change in a democracy, but you refuse to believe that should you gain independence, that any of the policies which allow you to enjoy the above would change. No no no, it’s SNP policy now to keep free prescriptions; therefore, it will always be thus.

You use very strong and absolute terms “proven without a doubt” without any sources, whilst asking others for evidence which suggests they are 100% correct.

I respect that you have an opinion but I do think that this is what is wrong with politics now. It’s not a conversation or debate or learning that you want by starting these threads, it’s just a vehicle for you to vent dogmatic views and that’s why you receive frustrated replies. Your opinion will never change, even if everyone in Scotland lived in gold houses while in the UK, you would just complain that Scotland is heavier than England and so it’s unfair."

Sorry but wrong the people decide

Did you forget we elect a party into government on their manifesto policies ? We gave the SNP a mandate

Its SNP policy for free prescriptions what makes you believe they would scrap that in an independent Scotland ?

Thats your opinion lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Some clearly dont get democracy lol

Its the people that decide when we want a referendum

Who do you suppose gets to decide when a generation will be ?

Like i said say its proven without a shadow if a doubt to you all that Scotland is being seriously damaged by being in the UK are you honestly saying we should just wait year and years till that generation period runs out ? Thats mental!

If you do not like the thread move on and ignore i wont stop because people are bullying me into stopping with threads i want to post if you dont like them thats ok just ignore

It is how a representative democracy works. As it has been said, it’s not for “people” to decide when a referendum is needed as there would be a continual referenda and countries simply cannot function that way.

I’m slightly confused by you saying it’s proven that Scotland is being damaged by the UK union whilst also proudly proclaiming that the Scottish people enjoy “free” prescriptions, “free” higher education and it had been claimed by your fellow Scots that policing is best in Scotland, housing is more affordable and you have a better standard of living than the rest of us.

As you say, things change in a democracy, but you refuse to believe that should you gain independence, that any of the policies which allow you to enjoy the above would change. No no no, it’s SNP policy now to keep free prescriptions; therefore, it will always be thus.

You use very strong and absolute terms “proven without a doubt” without any sources, whilst asking others for evidence which suggests they are 100% correct.

I respect that you have an opinion but I do think that this is what is wrong with politics now. It’s not a conversation or debate or learning that you want by starting these threads, it’s just a vehicle for you to vent dogmatic views and that’s why you receive frustrated replies. Your opinion will never change, even if everyone in Scotland lived in gold houses while in the UK, you would just complain that Scotland is heavier than England and so it’s unfair.

Sorry but wrong the people decide

Did you forget we elect a party into government on their manifesto policies ? We gave the SNP a mandate

Its SNP policy for free prescriptions what makes you believe they would scrap that in an independent Scotland ?

Thats your opinion lol

"

The people did decide. Another pointless and xenophobic thread.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

The biggest problem which i guess people in England dont get is

Westminster has 533 English mps what right to they have to tell the Scottish people that they dont care about the Scottish people wishes to have an independence referendum when we elected a party on that manifesto policy ?

It shouldnt be in the hands of Westmibster to decide for us am sorry but Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are not living under English / Westminster rule

We are sovereign and our wishes have to be respected

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The biggest problem which i guess people in England dont get is

Westminster has 533 English mps what right to they have to tell the Scottish people that they dont care about the Scottish people wishes to have an independence referendum when we elected a party on that manifesto policy ?

It shouldnt be in the hands of Westmibster to decide for us am sorry but Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are not living under English / Westminster rule

We are sovereign and our wishes have to be respected "

Yawn! Just post the figures on per capita MP representation for the regions, and then we can make our own minds up.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"The biggest problem which i guess people in England dont get is

Westminster has 533 English mps what right to they have to tell the Scottish people that they dont care about the Scottish people wishes to have an independence referendum when we elected a party on that manifesto policy ?

It shouldnt be in the hands of Westmibster to decide for us am sorry but Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are not living under English / Westminster rule

We are sovereign and our wishes have to be respected

Yawn! Just post the figures on per capita MP representation for the regions, and then we can make our own minds up."

Do tou honestly believe 533 English mps which is the majority in Westminster should be deciding if Scotland can have a referendum on independence ? Or should it be the Scottish people be heard and our wishes being respected ?

What it is you fear sooo much about letting Scotland decide its on future ? Please dint give me the bullshit you had one and Scotland decided no i do know that but things change in a democracy and the people decide whats best for them

I dont know what its like in Wngland you must be that used to being telt what to do from Labour and Tory government that younhave seriously forgotton you the people have power not them they represent you remember.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some clearly dont get democracy lol

Its the people that decide when we want a referendum

Who do you suppose gets to decide when a generation will be ?

Like i said say its proven without a shadow if a doubt to you all that Scotland is being seriously damaged by being in the UK are you honestly saying we should just wait year and years till that generation period runs out ? Thats mental!

If you do not like the thread move on and ignore i wont stop because people are bullying me into stopping with threads i want to post if you dont like them thats ok just ignore

It is how a representative democracy works. As it has been said, it’s not for “people” to decide when a referendum is needed as there would be a continual referenda and countries simply cannot function that way.

I’m slightly confused by you saying it’s proven that Scotland is being damaged by the UK union whilst also proudly proclaiming that the Scottish people enjoy “free” prescriptions, “free” higher education and it had been claimed by your fellow Scots that policing is best in Scotland, housing is more affordable and you have a better standard of living than the rest of us.

As you say, things change in a democracy, but you refuse to believe that should you gain independence, that any of the policies which allow you to enjoy the above would change. No no no, it’s SNP policy now to keep free prescriptions; therefore, it will always be thus.

You use very strong and absolute terms “proven without a doubt” without any sources, whilst asking others for evidence which suggests they are 100% correct.

I respect that you have an opinion but I do think that this is what is wrong with politics now. It’s not a conversation or debate or learning that you want by starting these threads, it’s just a vehicle for you to vent dogmatic views and that’s why you receive frustrated replies. Your opinion will never change, even if everyone in Scotland lived in gold houses while in the UK, you would just complain that Scotland is heavier than England and so it’s unfair."

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

"

Nope i wont answer fed up gettin demanded to answer your questions but you lot wont answer mine

So i will wait thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

"

you coming up to the Independence rally's in Scotland _ercury, everyone is invited.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

you coming up to the Independence rally's in Scotland _ercury, everyone is invited."

Yeah you should good laugh and banter no violence even get yourself a roll square sausage lmao

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

you coming up to the Independence rally's in Scotland _ercury, everyone is invited."

I haven't been to Scotland for a while now. When and where are they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

you coming up to the Independence rally's in Scotland _ercury, everyone is invited.

I haven't been to Scotland for a while now. When and where are they? "

A march showing support for Scottish independence will take place in May in Glasgow.

The march will take place on Saturday May 5, leaving from a gathering point at Kelvingrove Park at 11am 'sharp'

.

there are a few others on different dates, in various cities such as Aberdeen, also talks and shows.

.

good family day out

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Ok, if you won't do it then I will.

England 103692 per MP

N. Ireland. 103452 per MP

Scotland 91605 per MP

Wales. 77828 per MP

Where does that leave your arguement that Scotland is under-represented?

you coming up to the Independence rally's in Scotland _ercury, everyone is invited.

I haven't been to Scotland for a while now. When and where are they?

A march showing support for Scottish independence will take place in May in Glasgow.

The march will take place on Saturday May 5, leaving from a gathering point at Kelvingrove Park at 11am 'sharp'

.

there are a few others on different dates, in various cities such as Aberdeen, also talks and shows.

.

good family day out"

Hope it all goes well and peacefully. I must decline however, as it's in the football and cricket season!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

One trick pony thread, on auto-repeat

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"One trick pony thread, on auto-repeat"

Then why comment seeking attenion ? Lol move on and ignore

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's unfair that the English prop up and support the rest of the union.Time for England to be set free of the chains that burden our people.More money more money for the English!The rest of them don't even like us English.Time to look after our own people.Wed be better off to the tune of £50 billion put that on the side of a big red fucking bus and have an English referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's unfair that the English prop up and support the rest of the union.Time for England to be set free of the chains that burden our people.More money more money for the English!The rest of them don't even like us English.Time to look after our own people.Wed be better off to the tune of £50 billion put that on the side of a big red fucking bus and have an English referendum. "

That simply will not happen

simply a fantasy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Things can change in a democracy

Do deny people their wishes in a democracy is being very anti democratic when did Uk become nazi Germany ?"

You should know since Arthur Donaldson was a big fan of the Nazis !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go

Nope do not tell me to shit up move on if you dont like the thread

Alot of bullies in this fourm trying to gag people and single me out but its fine for others to start threads

Like i said if you dont agree or like my threads move on and ignore it doesnt bother me but i wont ever be told what i can or cannot say ok

Yeah i will stand up to bullies "

Ok no more " shit ups "

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Things can change in a democracy

Do deny people their wishes in a democracy is being very anti democratic when did Uk become nazi Germany ?

You should know since Arthur Donaldson was a big fan of the Nazis !!!!"

Ah the SNP nazi shite ok whatever you say chief

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over a year ago


"Kinky, Scotland isn't a colony.

You conveniently forget the majority of voters in Scotland decided to they should remain a member of the United Kingdom in 'a once in a lifetime' referendum.

Things can change in a democracy

Do deny people their wishes in a democracy is being very anti democratic when did Uk become nazi Germany ?

You should know since Arthur Donaldson was a big fan of the Nazis !!!!

Ah the SNP nazi shite ok whatever you say chief "

Just saying how much your party like Nazis after all Alexis salmondski gives a Arthur Donaldson lecture every year at the party conference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would the SNP betray the rest of the UK with the help of a foreign state.As was suggested could have happened with Hitler . Could it happen today with Putin .?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives . Does that make history relevant to modern day?

"

Which PM was a fan of Hitler?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go look it up

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over a year ago


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

"

None of them give an annual lecture named after the Nazi loving former leader.

Most party's tend to hide their shame.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Go look it up"

Might be easier if you just named name(s) and provided evidence.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Go look it up

Might be easier if you just named name(s) and provided evidence."

Why you all that damn lazy ? Lol

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over a year ago


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses wh lol "

The actions of a young child

=

continues celebration of a Nazi sympithysor lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol"

And the Prime Minister?

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over a year ago


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses wh lol

The actions of a young child

=

continues celebration of a Nazi sympithysor lol"

this

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol

And the Prime Minister? "

Remember thats the head of state am i taking about that has German blood in her and was caught using the right hand nazi salute as a child

Had to even change the name to a fake name Windsor to sound more English lol

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over a year ago


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol

And the Prime Minister?

Remember thats the head of state am i taking about that has German blood in her and was caught using the right hand nazi salute as a child

Had to even change the name to a fake name Windsor to sound more English lol "

They changed their name to Windsor in 1917 not during the Nazi years !!!

Are you equating everyone with a German name with being a Nazi ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

None of them give an annual lecture named after the Nazi loving former leader.

Most party's tend to hide their shame."

The irony of your post is list on you, I presume.

The lecture title is the name of the founding father of the SNP btw, not a memorial to statements he made.

As far as the MP- in the time it took to write two posts, you (the other poster) could actually have done some self education and found a king giving the Nazi salute and the names of TWO British PMs. Who am I to deprive.you of an opportunity for self-enlightenment?

And are there not recent pictures of a third in line to the UK throne actually DRESSED as a Nazi?

The world changes, politics and allegiances change. The present should not be condemned by the past, unless it still lives by the 'bad old days'.

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over a year ago


"Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go

Nope do not tell me to shit up move on if you dont like the thread

Alot of bullies in this fourm trying to gag people and single me out but its fine for others to start threads

Like i said if you dont agree or like my threads move on and ignore it doesnt bother me but i wont ever be told what i can or cannot say ok

Yeah i will stand up to bullies "

. Just a bit of advice... Your just beginning to sound a little Rab c nesbit at times

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol

And the Prime Minister?

Remember thats the head of state am i taking about that has German blood in her and was caught using the right hand nazi salute as a child

Had to even change the name to a fake name Windsor to sound more English lol

They changed their name to Windsor in 1917 not during the Nazi years !!!

Are you equating everyone with a German name with being a Nazi ???"

Putting words in my mouth again i see

Tell me where i said that eh ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Can I just say I respect your wishes for democracy and nationalism but honestly, shush now, your giving the Scottish a bad name.

I know you've got braveheart on repeat but the world's moved on since Bannockburn, let it go

Nope do not tell me to shit up move on if you dont like the thread

Alot of bullies in this fourm trying to gag people and single me out but its fine for others to start threads

Like i said if you dont agree or like my threads move on and ignore it doesnt bother me but i wont ever be told what i can or cannot say ok

Yeah i will stand up to bullies . Just a bit of advice... Your just beginning to sound a little Rab c nesbit at times "

Oh well boohoo lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes Hitler is in the past but we have Putin and the Kremlin helping the SNP today.

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over a year ago


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

None of them give an annual lecture named after the Nazi loving former leader.

Most party's tend to hide their shame.

The irony of your post is list on you, I presume.

The lecture title is the name of the founding father of the SNP btw, not a memorial to statements he made.

As far as the MP- in the time it took to write two posts, you (the other poster) could actually have done some self education and found a king giving the Nazi salute and the names of TWO British PMs. Who am I to deprive.you of an opportunity for self-enlightenment?

And are there not recent pictures of a third in line to the UK throne actually DRESSED as a Nazi?

The world changes, politics and allegiances change. The present should not be condemned by the past, unless it still lives by the 'bad old days'.

"

I find no irony in giving a lecture in the name of Arthur Donaldson who sided with the Nazis.

A party that claim to represent the Scottish people still hark back to this man by using his name for an annual lecture.

A man that did not want Scottish people to be called up to fight facisim.

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over a year ago


"Was your beloved queen caught in a pic as a child raising the right hand salute ? As the fake windsor family have German bloodline ?

Those in glass houses eh lol

And the Prime Minister?

Remember thats the head of state am i taking about that has German blood in her and was caught using the right hand nazi salute as a child

Had to even change the name to a fake name Windsor to sound more English lol

They changed their name to Windsor in 1917 not during the Nazi years !!!

Are you equating everyone with a German name with being a Nazi ???

Putting words in my mouth again i see

Tell me where i said that eh ?"

You stated the royal family previously had a German name.

The thread was about Nazis.

So why bring up their former name ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

None of them give an annual lecture named after the Nazi loving former leader.

Most party's tend to hide their shame.

The irony of your post is list on you, I presume.

The lecture title is the name of the founding father of the SNP btw, not a memorial to statements he made.

As far as the MP- in the time it took to write two posts, you (the other poster) could actually have done some self education and found a king giving the Nazi salute and the names of TWO British PMs. Who am I to deprive.you of an opportunity for self-enlightenment?

And are there not recent pictures of a third in line to the UK throne actually DRESSED as a Nazi?

The world changes, politics and allegiances change. The present should not be condemned by the past, unless it still lives by the 'bad old days'.

I find no irony in giving a lecture in the name of Arthur Donaldson who sided with the Nazis.

A party that claim to represent the Scottish people still hark back to this man by using his name for an annual lecture.

A man that did not want Scottish people to be called up to fight facisim."

The irony is that the British establishment didn't want to fight fascism and actively promoted, visited (Edward actually was a private guest of Hitler's after his wedding and saluted him often in public) and the modern queen was taught the salute by her parents and uncles. So, one man's views condemn a whole party but the active support by the monarchy and the country's leaders do what? Define every loyalist? You still call them PM and Queen, don't you?

Do you seriously think the SNP is a fascist party? If not, where is this relevant?

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over a year ago


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives at the time.

Does that mean everyone who sings the UK National anthem and/or votes Conservative is, by default, a nazi?

None of them give an annual lecture named after the Nazi loving former leader.

Most party's tend to hide their shame.

The irony of your post is list on you, I presume.

The lecture title is the name of the founding father of the SNP btw, not a memorial to statements he made.

As far as the MP- in the time it took to write two posts, you (the other poster) could actually have done some self education and found a king giving the Nazi salute and the names of TWO British PMs. Who am I to deprive.you of an opportunity for self-enlightenment?

And are there not recent pictures of a third in line to the UK throne actually DRESSED as a Nazi?

The world changes, politics and allegiances change. The present should not be condemned by the past, unless it still lives by the 'bad old days'.

I find no irony in giving a lecture in the name of Arthur Donaldson who sided with the Nazis.

A party that claim to represent the Scottish people still hark back to this man by using his name for an annual lecture.

A man that did not want Scottish people to be called up to fight facisim.

The irony is that the British establishment didn't want to fight fascism and actively promoted, visited (Edward actually was a private guest of Hitler's after his wedding and saluted him often in public) and the modern queen was taught the salute by her parents and uncles. So, one man's views condemn a whole party but the active support by the monarchy and the country's leaders do what? Define every loyalist? You still call them PM and Queen, don't you?

Do you seriously think the SNP is a fascist party? If not, where is this relevant? "

My problem is with kinky loves to use the Nazi word when he does not agree with something.

I see the snp s continual celebration of a man with Nazi sympathies !!!

You have put forward a good and reasoned arguement about the Brittish establishment having their sympathizers which is undeniable.

Unlike the snp they do not promote a historical figure at an annual lecture.

I find most people with Nazi sympathies in the past would rather hide their stupidity.

Why can't the snp have a more modern figure and give his name to the annual lecture like the previous leader Willy Wolfe.

Maybe not Willy Wolfe as he was a bigot that tried to ban the pope from either the UK or Scotland.

How about the Winnie Ewing annual lecture.

The moral of this post is so to not throw the Nazi word about Willy nilly as there are many skeletons in many cupboards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Winnie Ewing seemed a good sort, from what I read. I'd go for that.

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over a year ago


"Winnie Ewing seemed a good sort, from what I read. I'd go for that.

"

See !!!

We can agree about something's !!!

I am obviously not an snp supporter but Winnie Ewing is someone I do have respect for.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"The king and UK prime minister were big fans, too, as were most of the Conservatives . Does that make history relevant to modern day?

Which PM was a fan of Hitler?"

So no answer then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop being so lazy lol. Quite sure you're capable of doing your own research- clue- there are two PMs

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Stop being so lazy lol. Quite sure you're capable of doing your own research- clue- there are two PMs "

I looked as well. Couldn't find anything other than a couple of words. Certainly no photograph of a PM doing a Nazi salute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look again lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Stanley Baldwin once called him "a remarkable man" and Winston Churchill (not PM at the time) called him "a contemporary".

However, these are isolated words and need to be taken in the context of why they were said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it being insinuated that as Baldwin raised his arm when he met hitler then he was a Nazi ???

At the dispicable period in time it was the German greeting as opposed to shaking hands.

As part of a diplomatic missio I did not see anything wrong in that as it was the UK that wanted a deal and had to appease Hitler.

So I don't think that PM was a Nazi.

As for Churchill he spent years warning about the German rise in power.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry Chamberlain! !

I had a wee senior moment their.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, nobody said a PM had used the salute, just the royal family- frequently and to Hitler.

Since it seems two people here are way too lazy to do their own research and so are twisting what I said.....

Lloyd George called Hitler "the greatest living German" and "the George Washington of Germany" and Chamberlain certainly met with him and grossly underestimated who he was dealing with, on account of certain sympathies with the German cause, inherent racism and an extremely mis-placed belief in peace as a result.

Edward VIII was an egocentric fool with large spending habits, a brain the size of a pea and a belief that the world was his to play with. He was a right wing racist at heart and the Nazis very carefully played him like a fish, with the plan of putting him on the throne as a puppet. It was he who taught Elizabeth the nazi salute.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, nobody said a PM had used the salute, just the royal family- frequently and to Hitler.

Since it seems two people here are way too lazy to do their own research and so are twisting what I said.....

Lloyd George called Hitler "the greatest living German" and "the George Washington of Germany" and Chamberlain certainly met with him and grossly underestimated who he was dealing with, on account of certain sympathies with the German cause, inherent racism and an extremely mis-placed belief in peace as a result.

Edward VIII was an egocentric fool with large spending habits, a brain the size of a pea and a belief that the world was his to play with. He was a right wing racist at heart and the Nazis very carefully played him like a fish, with the plan of putting him on the throne as a puppet. It was he who taught Elizabeth the nazi salute. "

But fast Eddie resigned the job by then so was not king.

You are perfectly right about him he would have sold us down the river !!!!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"No, nobody said a PM had used the salute, just the royal family- frequently and to Hitler.

Since it seems two people here are way too lazy to do their own research and so are twisting what I said.....

Lloyd George called Hitler "the greatest living German" and "the George Washington of Germany" and Chamberlain certainly met with him and grossly underestimated who he was dealing with, on account of certain sympathies with the German cause, inherent racism and an extremely mis-placed belief in peace as a result.

Edward VIII was an egocentric fool with large spending habits, a brain the size of a pea and a belief that the world was his to play with. He was a right wing racist at heart and the Nazis very carefully played him like a fish, with the plan of putting him on the throne as a puppet. It was he who taught Elizabeth the nazi salute. "

Is that supposed to be your secret, that Chamberlain met Hitler?

Chamberlain hated Hitler and was doing his very best to stop an all out, total war. The most deadly the world has ever seen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't be obtuse.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

There is an infamous picture of the English football team giving the Nazi salute during the anthems in a match against Germany in 1938.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Lloyd George hadn't been PM since 1922! By the 1930s, his excesses had caught up with him and he was both mistrusted and largely shunned by the political class. He tried to resurrect his career with his "Big Deal" plan, an idea to negate the terrible depression of the early 1930s, and he looked to the success of Germany and Hitler to gain some traction with this. Hence the mutual back-slapping meeting between the two in 1936.

This meeting gave rise to a sense that Lloyd George was pro-German, and to a large extent he was. However the promises that Hitler gave him were soon washed away, and that was the end of Lloyd George.

Chamberlain was an appeaser, perhaps with just cause, as it was less than 20 years since the Great War that had wiped out so many people. He met Hitler and shook hands with him, but was never a fan.

Princess Elizabeth was pictured doing a Nazi salute in 1933, just weeks after Hitler had come to power. A novelty at the time and without the sinister overtones that soon became apparent when Hitler started to do the naughty and evil stuff.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"There is an infamous picture of the English football team giving the Nazi salute during the anthems in a match against Germany in 1938."

Oh yeah forgot about that

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"There is an infamous picture of the English football team giving the Nazi salute during the anthems in a match against Germany in 1938."

Yes. Ordered to by the British diplomatic service, as not to offend, but to a man, they hated the idea.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"There is an infamous picture of the English football team giving the Nazi salute during the anthems in a match against Germany in 1938.

Yes. Ordered to by the British diplomatic service, as not to offend, but to a man, they hated the idea."

Which made Johnson's remarks about Putin and the 1936 Olympics all the more ridiculous.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"There is an infamous picture of the English football team giving the Nazi salute during the anthems in a match against Germany in 1938.

Yes. Ordered to by the British diplomatic service, as not to offend, but to a man, they hated the idea.

Which made Johnson's remarks about Putin and the 1936 Olympics all the more ridiculous."

It was actually Ian Austin MP that made the remarks. Boris Johnson agreed with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Hence the mutual back-slapping meeting between the two in 1936. ......

This meeting gave rise to a sense that Lloyd George was pro-German, and to a large extent he was. However the promises that Hitler gave him were soon washed away, and that was the end of Lloyd George.......

Chamberlain was an appeaser, .....

Princess Elizabeth was pictured doing a Nazi salute in 1933, just weeks after Hitler had come to power. A novelty at the time and without the sinister overtones that soon became apparent when Hitler started to do the naughty and evil stuff."

Point is, the time frame. At the time, a lot of people in the UK were tentative supporters, Hence, there is no mileage in the accusations against Donaldson and Hugh MacDiarmid, now; it puts it in perspective.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Is the UK fair and equal to all 4 countries ? Or a dictatorship ?

Seems some on here believe England have the biggest right to how the UK is run because of population

When did Scotland Wales and NI become colonies of England ?

Do people honestly wonder why so many of us want to leave the UK with people like this ?

Unionism is getting very dark and nasty

Even actively saying there could be violence if Northern Ireland wanted to have a united Ireland with the south shocking that is the tactic to try and keep the UK union together "

What a stupid question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Hence the mutual back-slapping meeting between the two in 1936. ......

This meeting gave rise to a sense that Lloyd George was pro-German, and to a large extent he was. However the promises that Hitler gave him were soon washed away, and that was the end of Lloyd George.......

Chamberlain was an appeaser, .....

Princess Elizabeth was pictured doing a Nazi salute in 1933, just weeks after Hitler had come to power. A novelty at the time and without the sinister overtones that soon became apparent when Hitler started to do the naughty and evil stuff.

Point is, the time frame. At the time, a lot of people in the UK were tentative supporters, Hence, there is no mileage in the accusations against Donaldson and Hugh MacDiarmid, now; it puts it in perspective."

My point about Donaldson was he never showed any regret with backing hitler.

If you look at SNP supporters pages they even revel in showing leflets from Donaldson so my believe it is still relevant to them today.

As before we agreed having the Winnie Ewing annual lecture would be better than celebrating Donaldson.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?"

Wow fucking wow. Why can't the English reply too?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

Wow fucking wow. Why can't the English reply too?"

Reply if you want

I know Greenoakmale is a big Labour fan seems like Labour havent learned a thibg in Scotland stay in bed shagging their Tory pals lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?"

It depends who they think they can work with.

At local level it should be more about the community rather than the snp way of towing the hard line party message.

It did not seem to bother the snp when they worked with the Tories in government.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

It depends who they think they can work with.

At local level it should be more about the community rather than the snp way of towing the hard line party message.

It did not seem to bother the snp when they worked with the Tories in government."

Bullshit you know fine well the SNP were a minority government do you have any idea how that works ?

So you have no problem with Labour shagging the Tories in Falkirk ?

Oh wait i forgit Labour council in Falkirk thiught it was more than ok to fund an orange order march dirty bastards using tax payers money

Oh and Labour PFIs

Labour sure as hell love wasting tax payers monetmy thank fuck they are no where near government in Scotland

I wonder if the dick will suspend the Labour councilors

I didnt like Kezia but fair dos at least she had baws to suspend the Aberdeen councilors

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"One trick pony thread, on auto-repeat

Then why comment seeking attenion ? Lol move on and ignore "

Not everyone posts for attention: it's almost never my motivation.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

It depends who they think they can work with.

At local level it should be more about the community rather than the snp way of towing the hard line party message.

It did not seem to bother the snp when they worked with the Tories in government.

Bullshit you know fine well the SNP were a minority government do you have any idea how that works ?

So you have no problem with Labour shagging the Tories in Falkirk ?

Oh wait i forgit Labour council in Falkirk thiught it was more than ok to fund an orange order march dirty bastards using tax payers money

Oh and Labour PFIs

Labour sure as hell love wasting tax payers monetmy thank fuck they are no where near government in Scotland

I wonder if the dick will suspend the Labour councilors

I didnt like Kezia but fair dos at least she had baws to suspend the Aberdeen councilors"

Another SNP rant about democracy in action. It seems they hate anyone else doing deals via the democratic process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

It depends who they think they can work with.

At local level it should be more about the community rather than the snp way of towing the hard line party message.

It did not seem to bother the snp when they worked with the Tories in government.

Bullshit you know fine well the SNP were a minority government do you have any idea how that works ?

So you have no problem with Labour shagging the Tories in Falkirk ?

Oh wait i forgit Labour council in Falkirk thiught it was more than ok to fund an orange order march dirty bastards using tax payers money

Oh and Labour PFIs

Labour sure as hell love wasting tax payers monetmy thank fuck they are no where near government in Scotland

I wonder if the dick will suspend the Labour councilors

I didnt like Kezia but fair dos at least she had baws to suspend the Aberdeen councilors"

So much bile from one bitter indevidual! !!

I know exactly how a minority government works thank you.

You seem to have a it is ok to work with torys when it suits you.

It is ok for saint Nicola to go on stage with several Tories when it suits you.

If the Labour group in any distric find partners they think they can work with for the good of the community I say go for it even the SNP! !

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"To Greenoakmale what do you think about Labour joining up with your great pals the Tories in Falkirk council ?

Labour in Falkirk have voted with the Tories to oust the SNP administration ?

It depends who they think they can work with.

At local level it should be more about the community rather than the snp way of towing the hard line party message.

It did not seem to bother the snp when they worked with the Tories in government.

Bullshit you know fine well the SNP were a minority government do you have any idea how that works ?

So you have no problem with Labour shagging the Tories in Falkirk ?

Oh wait i forgit Labour council in Falkirk thiught it was more than ok to fund an orange order march dirty bastards using tax payers money

Oh and Labour PFIs

Labour sure as hell love wasting tax payers monetmy thank fuck they are no where near government in Scotland

I wonder if the dick will suspend the Labour councilors

I didnt like Kezia but fair dos at least she had baws to suspend the Aberdeen councilors

So much bile from one bitter indevidual! !!

I know exactly how a minority government works thank you.

You seem to have a it is ok to work with torys when it suits you.

It is ok for saint Nicola to go on stage with several Tories when it suits you.

If the Labour group in any distric find partners they think they can work with for the good of the community I say go for it even the SNP! !"

Lmao

Claim doon dude lol

When did Nicola work with the Tories ? I hope you dont mean the EU referendum as the SNP put forward reasons to remain fact!!

So you are happy for Labour to work with the Tories some things never change eh Labour and Tory in bed with each other against Scotland

Oh well Greenoakmale keep watching Labour never ever get anywhere in government in Scotland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???"

Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?

So thats a request which i will answer it by saying thats for me to know

Are you going ? Remember you said you aint no unionist

No i do not but i have a clown costume if yiu wanna borrow it ? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?

So thats a request which i will answer it by saying thats for me to know

Are you going ? Remember you said you aint no unionist

No i do not but i have a clown costume if yiu wanna borrow it ? Lol"

Who are the SNzp?

Scottish National zocialist party?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WTF are you doing with a clown costume? Or shouldn't I ask?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"WTF are you doing with a clown costume? Or shouldn't I ask?"

Oh sorry i guess you ever do halloween lol

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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago

Chester


"WTF are you doing with a clown costume? Or shouldn't I ask?"

Making posts in the political forum, helps set the scene!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?

"

oh thats easy.... before the last load of local elections in 2017 there were a few scottish councils that were run as joint snp/tory administrations.....

dumfries and galloway was run as a tory/snp administration....

east ayrshire was run as a tory/snp administration....

perth and kinross was run as a tory/snp administration....

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

are you going to answer the other people's kind questions now kinky......

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow ish


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???"

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie"

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow ish


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

"

Answer to your question: "Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?"

4 years of a confidence and supply agreement, similar to that currently done with the Greens.

Or the previous Labour/Lib Dem agreements.

Read up yourself!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

"

a) the two parties still have to work together or a government doesn't work....

for example... without the dup there is no workable conservative minority government....

b) i gave you examples from last year... and yet you seem to have glossed over that......

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

Answer to your question: "Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?"

4 years of a confidence and supply agreement, similar to that currently done with the Greens.

Or the previous Labour/Lib Dem agreements.

Read up yourself! "

You honestly trying to leave out Scottish Labour branch Scottish Lib Dem branch and Greens ?

In a minority government they have to wirk with ALL parties / branch office you really should stop trying to hoodwink people into believing lies lol

But then again keep going seems to be working for the unionist branches in Scotland 10 years of not being in government keep up the good work eh lmao

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio "

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others. "

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies "

I don't think it's against forum rules to compare yourself to those mentioned above, it is however against good taste and decency.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio "

nah.... i was cool.... took a few days out to get my zen on....

oh... and please don't play "victim"...

you do true victims in this world a disservice! people who truely suffer in this world are victims! you get to play trying to be knowledgable behind a keyboad! ironically the people you had the sheer audacity to compare yourself with wouldn't have called themselves victim.. they had fight and a spirit in them!

you got schooled once again by asking a question you didn't know the answer to and thought no one would be able to answer... and had someone else actually answer it!

i know it must hurt you to be shown up yet again for talking loads and knowing little... empty vessels making the most noise and all that jazz....

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies

I don't think it's against forum rules to compare yourself to those mentioned above, it is however against good taste and decency. "

I did not compare my self to anyone people are welcome to check i didnt get banned or the admin didnt get rid of it take note eh

This is interesting CLCC you attack me but no no you wont say i damn thing about Fabio pretty much joking about me having Autism

I know there is a wee gang forming of bullies that stick together you dont like people standing up to you tough shite i dont care for bullies

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Yeah ok Fabio

You werent just called out by me someone else called you out on your sick comment about me having Autism

Funny how that comment dissappeared not long after

Still proud of that comment would you say it again about me having autism or have you learned its nasty ?

I will keep standing up to bullies

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies

I don't think it's against forum rules to compare yourself to those mentioned above, it is however against good taste and decency.

I did not compare my self to anyone people are welcome to check i didnt get banned or the admin didnt get rid of it take note eh

This is interesting CLCC you attack me but no no you wont say i damn thing about Fabio pretty much joking about me having Autism

I know there is a wee gang forming of bullies that stick together you dont like people standing up to you tough shite i dont care for bullies "

You did, and were called out for it by many people. Like I said, you weren't banned because it's not against forum rules, but it is against good taste and decency.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow ish


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

Answer to your question: "Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?"

4 years of a confidence and supply agreement, similar to that currently done with the Greens.

Or the previous Labour/Lib Dem agreements.

Read up yourself!

You honestly trying to leave out Scottish Labour branch Scottish Lib Dem branch and Greens ?

In a minority government they have to wirk with ALL parties / branch office you really should stop trying to hoodwink people into believing lies lol

But then again keep going seems to be working for the unionist branches in Scotland 10 years of not being in government keep up the good work eh lmao"

You really do have the blinkers?

Read what I wrote , I stated the Labour/Lib dem ones.

I do understand how the Scottish parliment system is meant to work.

It's meant to work towards consensus, yet we now have a Scotland riven with greivance politics. Scot set against Scot.

All for one mans dream of being a "father to a nation".

The current leader has even said "independence trancends all", or to put it another way "I don't care if it beggars Scotland or empoverishes its people, I want my political dream". Stronger for Sturgeon and stuff Scotland.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies

I don't think it's against forum rules to compare yourself to those mentioned above, it is however against good taste and decency.

I did not compare my self to anyone people are welcome to check i didnt get banned or the admin didnt get rid of it take note eh

This is interesting CLCC you attack me but no no you wont say i damn thing about Fabio pretty much joking about me having Autism

I know there is a wee gang forming of bullies that stick together you dont like people standing up to you tough shite i dont care for bullies

You did, and were called out for it by many people. Like I said, you weren't banned because it's not against forum rules, but it is against good taste and decency. "

Liar!!!!!!!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Fabio i will put this nicely sorry but i refuse to talk to you

You made sick jokes towards me tried to belittle me by saying i must have autism and yiu done it in Autism Awareness Day and not even a sorry

Am gonna guess you were banned as you were silent for more than a days on here

So sorry if i by pass you but that was sick as fuck and guess what i dont have to talk to you

Best of luck in here though so cheerio

I think you are embarrassed that he called you out on comparing yourself to Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Jesus Christ, among others.

Liar did i fuck

People are welcome to check didnt see me get banned for that did you ?

What i did see is the wee gang of bullies go quiet didnt like someone standing up to them or someone must have grassed them up and got them banned

I dont care for bulllies

I don't think it's against forum rules to compare yourself to those mentioned above, it is however against good taste and decency.

I did not compare my self to anyone people are welcome to check i didnt get banned or the admin didnt get rid of it take note eh

This is interesting CLCC you attack me but no no you wont say i damn thing about Fabio pretty much joking about me having Autism

I know there is a wee gang forming of bullies that stick together you dont like people standing up to you tough shite i dont care for bullies

You did, and were called out for it by many people. Like I said, you weren't banned because it's not against forum rules, but it is against good taste and decency.

Liar!!!!!!!"

It is against good taste and decency in my opinion.

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over a year ago

It's not as simple as some just wanting to reverse the last referendum. I guess you need to have been in Scotland at the time of the initial one to understand why, as there was, and is, a different amount of reporting of the time within the UK and certainly a different degree of understanding about the reasons. Since I travel so much, I saw this from a Scottish, UK and international level and trust me, what was actually happening in Scotland was NOT what was reported in the UK. In general, there was a better standard worldwide but obviously, less volume of it and rUK was not properly informed and to be fair, neither were Scottish areas, outwith the central belt.

What fuels the recycling of the referendum was a strong sense of injustice about how exactly the vote was won and that was repeated, without the emotion, abroad in a light that was unflattering to the UK and Westminster in particular. Also, in the aftermath, there was a cycle of what appeared to be vengeance, which widened the rift. Had it all been better handled, it may have quelled this for the generation talked about. Instead, it left bitterness and a sense of being cheated. The SNP were voted in by a majority with a clear mandate for another referendum by the Scottish people echoing this.

If you doubt this, just think how the EU referendum was held- the claims that are now known to be, at best, misguided, at worst, misleading and lies. Seems, perhaps because England did not know the tactics, they fell for them again. Perhaps it could be argued Scotland had seen them before and was more savvy about the capacity for misdirection.

o

The world moves on and whether or not there will be another referendum is unknown and maybe doubtful in light of the chaos Brexit will cause but it will never really go away.

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over a year ago


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?

So thats a request which i will answer it by saying thats for me to know

Are you going ? Remember you said you aint no unionist

No i do not but i have a clown costume if yiu wanna borrow it ? Lol"

Sorry I can't make it I will be in Madrid.

The Spanish police are running a special course !!

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over a year ago


"As I stated you are very selective about working with Tories.

Can I ask are you going to the Indy rally on the 5th of May ??

Also do you have a jacobite fancy dress costume ???

2007, confidence and supply agreement with Annabelle Goldies Tory party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/10/alex-salmond-hypocrisy-former-scottish-tories-leader-annabel-goldie

2007 SNP were a minority government read up how it works lol

Answer to your question: "Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?"

4 years of a confidence and supply agreement, similar to that currently done with the Greens.

Or the previous Labour/Lib Dem agreements.

Read up yourself!

You honestly trying to leave out Scottish Labour branch Scottish Lib Dem branch and Greens ?

In a minority government they have to wirk with ALL parties / branch office you really should stop trying to hoodwink people into believing lies lol

But then again keep going seems to be working for the unionist branches in Scotland 10 years of not being in government keep up the good work eh lmao

You really do have the blinkers?

Read what I wrote , I stated the Labour/Lib dem ones.

I do understand how the Scottish parliment system is meant to work.

It's meant to work towards consensus, yet we now have a Scotland riven with greivance politics. Scot set against Scot.

All for one mans dream of being a "father to a nation".

The current leader has even said "independence trancends all", or to put it another way "I don't care if it beggars Scotland or empoverishes its people, I want my political dream". Stronger for Sturgeon and stuff Scotland.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not as simple as some just wanting to reverse the last referendum. I guess you need to have been in Scotland at the time of the initial one to understand why, as there was, and is, a different amount of reporting of the time within the UK and certainly a different degree of understanding about the reasons. Since I travel so much, I saw this from a Scottish, UK and international level and trust me, what was actually happening in Scotland was NOT what was reported in the UK. In general, there was a better standard worldwide but obviously, less volume of it and rUK was not properly informed and to be fair, neither were Scottish areas, outwith the central belt.

What fuels the recycling of the referendum was a strong sense of injustice about how exactly the vote was won and that was repeated, without the emotion, abroad in a light that was unflattering to the UK and Westminster in particular. Also, in the aftermath, there was a cycle of what appeared to be vengeance, which widened the rift. Had it all been better handled, it may have quelled this for the generation talked about. Instead, it left bitterness and a sense of being cheated. The SNP were voted in by a majority with a clear mandate for another referendum by the Scottish people echoing this.

If you doubt this, just think how the EU referendum was held- the claims that are now known to be, at best, misguided, at worst, misleading and lies. Seems, perhaps because England did not know the tactics, they fell for them again. Perhaps it could be argued Scotland had seen them before and was more savvy about the capacity for misdirection.

o

The world moves on and whether or not there will be another referendum is unknown and maybe doubtful in light of the chaos Brexit will cause but it will never really go away.

"

Do you include in this the day after the Indy ref alexsi salmondski stating he was looking forward to the older generation dying off so he could have FREEDUM ???

Did you include the service of reconciliation that the snp did not turn up too ???

The thing about refarendum is they put people at polar opposites and it is nasty.

I live and love being in Scotland but I can assure you the snp have not held out the hand of friendship to anyone.

You are either for the snp and for independence or you are the enemy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People have their views on both sides.

I can see why SNP would not partake in a service of reconciliation- what was that about???- and Salmond's comments were those of a bitter loser remarking that the youth view was overwhelmed by the older one.

It just shows that BOTH sides are divided and if there had been a fair and more honest campaign, there wouldn't be so much resentment. OR if Westminster wasn't seen as acting the way it immediately did, pulling out its colonial past, it might not still resonate so much.

OR, maybe it's 'divide and rule'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" People have their views on both sides.

I can see why SNP would not partake in a service of reconciliation- what was that about???- and Salmond's comments were those of a bitter loser remarking that the youth view was overwhelmed by the older one.

It just shows that BOTH sides are divided and if there had been a fair and more honest campaign, there wouldn't be so much resentment. OR if Westminster wasn't seen as acting the way it immediately did, pulling out its colonial past, it might not still resonate so much.

OR, maybe it's 'divide and rule'.

"

All sides were invited to a service of reconciliation before the referendum as part of pulling the country back together but the snp decided they did not want reconciliation of a country they are supposed to represent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Nope give me an example of the SNzp working with the Tories ?

oh thats easy.... before the last load of local elections in 2017 there were a few scottish councils that were run as joint snp/tory administrations.....

dumfries and galloway was run as a tory/snp administration....

east ayrshire was run as a tory/snp administration....

perth and kinross was run as a tory/snp administration....

"

thanks Fabio you saved me some typing

So here we have the answer do the snp work with Tories !!

I don't care if the snp work with Tories or not as long as they do a good job.

At local level it should be who you can work with.

I see your party deseleceted 4 councilors in Lanarkshire.

If councillors from the snp can't work together why do you think they can work with other parties ??

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over a year ago

I don't think there's political merit in that- Does that not apply to Labour and Conservatives recently? It happens for various reasons in all parties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many nations wish they had this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSH0eRKq1lE

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