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"Can those that defend the UK name 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland ? 1. Union Jacks on tins of shortbread 2. Tunnocks wafers with Union Jacks on them 3. HM The Queen as head of state " | |||
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"“name 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK Union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland?" We've given you an answer...and all you can do is repeat the question! Of course...that's what you always do! | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent" Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks " 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't " Ok why is that ? | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks " Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state?" 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state " I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors? | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors?" Ok you asked for it If Scotland vote yes to become an independent Scotland then the UK does NOT exist duh!!! Did tou forget that Scottish St Andrews flag is in the union jack ? How fucking wmbarrassing lmao Now 3 is correct an independent Scotland can have the queen as head if state true ? | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks " actually... on lets look at the scorecard.... 1) at seat on the UN security council.... you would get a seat on a security council itself for 6 months about once every 10 years, but you would not have a permenant seat on the UN Security council, you would also not have the same "power of veto" of isssues that the UK governemnt currently does) 2) £ as currency..... that is true.... you wouldn't have the pound sterling as your official currency as that would mean the bank of ENGLAND would be your lender of last resort..... you could have pound sterling as a currency you use, but you would have NO say on economic policy such as interest rates, QE, bond rates, credit rating ect ect....... nothing to stop you having a scottish pound... but who would it be underwritten by, and to be able to do that you would also need to take on your share of the UK debt as well...... 3) independent nuclear deterrant... true, but the fact you have a few is probably deterrent enough...... | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors? Ok you asked for it If Scotland vote yes to become an independent Scotland then the UK does NOT exist duh!!! Did tou forget that Scottish St Andrews flag is in the union jack ? How fucking wmbarrassing lmao Now 3 is correct an independent Scotland can have the queen as head if state true ?" 1. Damn it was a trick question! 2. So why are SNP supporters calling Walkers traitors? 3. Are you sure Nicola Sturgeon would be happy with the Queen of England being your head of state? I thought she wanted that position. | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors? Ok you asked for it If Scotland vote yes to become an independent Scotland then the UK does NOT exist duh!!! Did tou forget that Scottish St Andrews flag is in the union jack ? How fucking wmbarrassing lmao Now 3 is correct an independent Scotland can have the queen as head if state true ? 1. Damn it was a trick question! 2. So why are SNP supporters calling Walkers traitors? 3. Are you sure Nicola Sturgeon would be happy with the Queen of England being your head of state? I thought she wanted that position." So point 1 and 2 moot 3 an independent Scotland could have the queen as head of state correct ? | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ?" 1. No seat on UNSC, USSR had a seat, when the republic's became independent, they lost their seat and Russia kept it. 2. A newly independent country such as Scotland can't join the EU without its own central bank. Why would an Scotland want it's monetary policy decided by another country? 3. The Scottish government have been quite clear in their anti nuclear stance. | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ? 1. No seat on UNSC, USSR had a seat, when the republic's became independent, they lost their seat and Russia kept it. 2. A newly independent country such as Scotland can't join the EU without its own central bank. Why would an Scotland want it's monetary policy decided by another country? 3. The Scottish government have been quite clear in their anti nuclear stance. " 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an Scotland can but wont as we aint sick fucks that want nuclear weapons near us | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ? 1. No seat on UNSC, USSR had a seat, when the republic's became independent, they lost their seat and Russia kept it. 2. A newly independent country such as Scotland can't join the EU without its own central bank. Why would an Scotland want it's monetary policy decided by another country? 3. The Scottish government have been quite clear in their anti nuclear stance. 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an Scotland can but wont as we aint sick fucks that want nuclear weapons near us " What was the last country to take up a permentant seat on the UN Security Council?  | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ? 1. No seat on UNSC, USSR had a seat, when the republic's became independent, they lost their seat and Russia kept it. 2. A newly independent country such as Scotland can't join the EU without its own central bank. Why would an Scotland want it's monetary policy decided by another country? 3. The Scottish government have been quite clear in their anti nuclear stance. 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an Scotland can but wont as we aint sick fucks that want nuclear weapons near us What was the last country to take up a permentant seat on the UN Security Council? "Nope not playing the game 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont You must not have faith in Scotland eh | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ? 1. No seat on UNSC, USSR had a seat, when the republic's became independent, they lost their seat and Russia kept it. 2. A newly independent country such as Scotland can't join the EU without its own central bank. Why would an Scotland want it's monetary policy decided by another country? 3. The Scottish government have been quite clear in their anti nuclear stance. 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an Scotland can but wont as we aint sick fucks that want nuclear weapons near us What was the last country to take up a permentant seat on the UN Security Council?
Nope not playing the game
1 an independent Scotland can
2 an independent Scotland can
3 an independent Scotland can but wont
You must not have faith in Scotland eh "How can Scotland become a permanent member of the UN Security Council? | |||
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"Nane 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK Union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland? The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies " 1) at seat on the UN security council.... you would get a seat on a security council itself for 6 months about once every 10 years,( as a rotating member) but you would not have a permenant seat on the UN Security council, you would also not have the same "power of veto" of isssues that the UK governemnt currently does) so you would lose that power....... | |||
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"Nane 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK Union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland? The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies " 2) £ as currency..... that is true.... you wouldn't have the pound sterling as your official currency as that would mean the bank of ENGLAND would be your lender of last resort..... you could have pound sterling as a currency you use, but you would have NO say on economic policy such as interest rates, QE, bond rates, credit rating ect ect....... nothing to stop you having a scottish pound... but who would it be underwritten by, and to be able to do that you would also need to take on your share of the UK debt as well...... what would be the point of being independent if you basically have no control of economic or monetary planning.... the EU WON'T accept anyone without their own central bank.... and if you wanted to become part of the ECB, they are going to make you take on the Euro.... and decisions on interest rates will be taken from brussels rather than from london..... plus just reading a report from the scottish executive... they reckon there part of the UK debt would be One of the target metrics the EU enforces on its members is for each state to aim for a budget deficit of no more than 3pc of GDP The Scottish government's latest annual estimate puts the country's deficit at £15bn or 9.5pc of GDP. if you want to put that in terms that even you will understand.... Greece's deficit lies at around 7.5pc of GDP | |||
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"If Scotland does become independent and Westminster carries on its policy in Northern Ireland, that would leave England and Wales. That region could not claim to be UK and as such, would not have a permanent seat any more unless it fought very hard for it. Nothing that exists now is a given." Except that Russia and China did just that. 
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Here are 3 things you can't do "1 . Yes they can 2. Yes they can 3 Yes they can Why do so many have little faith in Scotland? Tell me CLCC You you think an Independent England can do those things ? Lets see you nasty anti Scottish side really come out with answering that | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Here are 3 things you can't do
1 . Yes they can
2. Yes they can
3 Yes they can
Why do so many have little faith in Scotland?
Tell me CLCC
You you think an Independent England can do those things ?
Lets see you nasty anti Scottish side really come out with answering that
"The rest of the UK can do all of those things, yes. | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Here are 3 things you can't do
1 . Yes they can
2. Yes they can
3 Yes they can
Why do so many have little faith in Scotland?
Tell me CLCC
You you think an Independent England can do those things ?
Lets see you nasty anti Scottish side really come out with answering that
The rest of the UK can do all of those things, yes. "So an independent England can do those things just not independent Scotland eh? Yeah your very anti Scottish | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Here are 3 things you can't do
1 . Yes they can
2. Yes they can
3 Yes they can
Why do so many have little faith in Scotland?
Tell me CLCC
You you think an Independent England can do those things ?
Lets see you nasty anti Scottish side really come out with answering that
The rest of the UK can do all of those things, yes.
So an independent England can do those things just not independent Scotland eh?
Yeah your very anti Scottish "No, I'm not. If Scotland wants to walk away from the UK, then it has to accept it will lose things. The 3 things mentioned above it will lose. The rest of the UK won't lose them, because it's not the one walking away. | |||
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"CLCC You you think an Independent England can do .........."1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent? " Yup. I'm pretty sure this has already been covered. | |||
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"CLCC You you think an Independent England can do .........."1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent? " England isn't the one walking away.... Scotland would be... so you would be talking about Scotland and a rUK.... and the rUK would be the entity under international law that would keep all of those Priviledges so how are you going to keep pound sterling anyway when all new members of the EU are oblieged to use the Euro as their main currency anyway...... | |||
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"CLCC You you think an Independent England can do .........."1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent? Yup. I'm pretty sure this has already been covered." Right so you believe an independent England can do those things just not an independent Scotland Yup your anti Scottish | |||
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"For fuck sake Fabio lets just say England became independent ok So can an independent England do these things? "1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent" england isn't the one that wants to become independent... Scotland is, the country that walks away is the one that loses the priviledges..... thats why scotland would have to apply to join the UN thats why scotland would have to apply to join the EU England already has a central bank... its call the Bank of England!!!! keep up!!!!! remember that is was Scotland that were at one point threatening to walk away and not take any of the debt...... I am glad the SNP have moved off that position, because it would kill them economically before it started.... | |||
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"Stop deflecting Fabio lets say England became independent ok So can an independent England do these things? "1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent" I thought the thread was about an independent Scotland, now it's a hypothetical situation about an independent England that no major party has proposed! | |||
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"Ah sooo there it is cant stand the fact i ask a question you cant fucking answer Go on lets just say England became independent ok So can an independent England do these things? "1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Brw incase you had fucking noticed Scotland didnt want to walk away from the UK lmao " If England were to walk away from the rest of the UK, it would lose its seat on the UN Security Council. It would probably lose the £, but the rest of the UK would have to change the name of the bank of England. It would probably split the nuclear deterrent. However, if England were the last man standing in the UK, and it was the other 3 who left, it would keep its currency and SC seat. I doubt the other countries would want the nuclear deterrent. | |||
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"Stop deflecting Fabio lets say England became independent ok So can an independent England do these things? "1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent" again... england isn't the one that is looking at being independent!!! scotland is... but i'll happily answer your questions... 1) at Worst, England would be allowed to be a rotating member of the UNSC... like I said, that would be for a 6 month period every 10 years.... because England would be the ones to retain the nuclear deterrant (since you have already admitted that scotland doesn't want it) and since England i assume would take over all historical precedents.... they would keep all international agreements... are you saying that scotland would take over all international agreements.... and how do you get around the fact that since the EU have said you would have to reapply to join, and we know that all new members have an obligation to use the EURO..... how that then relates to 2... which then brings me to.... 2) the bank of england actually outdates the union (it was formed in 1694) and was set up by an english government... so i assume an independent england would keep that... and therefore keep the pound sterling... 3) since you said scotland don't want the nuclear deterrent, and england does anyway, then i don't see the point you are making..... england have a deep water port at falmouth where it can be housed..... but as i said.... england arent the ones that are wanting to break away... scotland are! so maybe you should answer your own questions you set... i know you don't like doing that!!!!!.... 1) would an independent scotland have a permenent seat on the UNSC? if so, how? 2) how would an independent scotland keep the pound sterling, when all new EU members are oblieged to use the euro? if fact... 2a) why would you want to keep pound sterling, when you would have no say over interest rates, or any banking policy? 3) would an indepedent scotland want to keep a nuclear deterrent.... you have already said no!!!! so that point is mute point... and cclc is correct...... | |||
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"No...England and Wales would NOT be guaranteed a place since the UK would no longer exist. Are you equating the power of Russia with that of England alone? What would England on its own have to offer the world? " If England can't go it alone, then Scotland certainly can't! | |||
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"Fabio hellooooooooo Scotland said no to independence An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies Why so you Fabio think so samn low of Scotland ? You are anti Scottish " Apart from: By CLCC Couple 4 hours ago Cambridge 1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent It can't achieve those  | |||
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"No...England and Wales would NOT be guaranteed a place since the UK would no longer exist. Are you equating the power of Russia with that of England alone? What would England on its own have to offer the world? If England can't go it alone, then Scotland certainly can't! " Awwww look England need someone to hold its hand awww pet | |||
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"No...England and Wales would NOT be guaranteed a place since the UK would no longer exist. Are you equating the power of Russia with that of England alone? What would England on its own have to offer the world? If England can't go it alone, then Scotland certainly can't! Awwww look England need someone to hold its hand awww pet " I'm glad you think abc's post was crap too!  | |||
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"So many anti Scottish people on here An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies And yes thats the very same with an independent England Stop being afraid " That is simply not true. | |||
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"So many anti Scottish people on here An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies And yes thats the very same with an independent England Stop being afraid That is simply not true. " This is where you gonna claim Scotland is too wee and too poor correct ? You are anti Scottish | |||
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"I don't understand why you people keep on talking to trying to debate with this liar. You'd get more sense talking to a wall " Who is forcing you ? Lol | |||
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"So many anti Scottish people on here An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies And yes thats the very same with an independent England Stop being afraid That is simply not true. This is where you gonna claim Scotland is too wee and too poor correct ? You are anti Scottish " Sudan can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Sudanese? Yemen can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Yemeni? Thailand can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Thai? Bolivia can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Bolivian? | |||
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"No...England and Wales would NOT be guaranteed a place since the UK would no longer exist. Are you equating the power of Russia with that of England alone? What would England on its own have to offer the world? If England can't go it alone, then Scotland certainly can't! " Again, you just don't get it. The point is, no UK, no guaranteed permanent seat. That was the conversation- keep up lol. And just to stop any more snide comments- go educate yourself. | |||
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"No...England and Wales would NOT be guaranteed a place since the UK would no longer exist. Are you equating the power of Russia with that of England alone? What would England on its own have to offer the world? If England can't go it alone, then Scotland certainly can't! Again, you just don't get it. The point is, no UK, no guaranteed permanent seat. That was the conversation- keep up lol. And just to stop any more snide comments- go educate yourself. " No more USSR, but Russia kept the seat.
Can you name one permentant seat holder who's country seperated and no part of the former country retained the seat? Nope. You can't. It's never happened.
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"Some on here have a very disgusting attitude towards Scoltand having the right to self determination Anything to keep your red white and blue no surrender UK union together and willing to screw over Scotland to keep us in the UK Sorry but no thank you " Really? You should try mentioning it occasionally. | |||
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"So many anti Scottish people on here An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies And yes thats the very same with an independent England Stop being afraid That is simply not true. This is where you gonna claim Scotland is too wee and too poor correct ? You are anti Scottish Sudan can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Sudanese? Yemen can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Yemeni? Thailand can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Thai? Bolivia can't get a seat on the UN Security Council or use the £. Am I anti Bolivian? " Come on Kinky, am I anti all of those countries because of the above statements? | |||
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"I can't name 3, but I can name 1 that is extremely important. A United Kingdom has more chance of not being taken over by extremists than independent Scotland. This is not an opinion but a fact, and is a function of population. The larger the population the more moderate the outcome provided the whole population are involved in the decision making process. " Thank you for being honest See an independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies | |||
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"Fabio hellooooooooo Scotland said no to independence An independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies Why so you Fabio think so samn low of Scotland ? You are anti Scottish " really..... and this is the reason why i think i would like to lead the campaign for a "facepalm" emoji....... your post is the intellectual equivalent of trying to throw a grenade... only to blow your arm off whilst trying! 
see... i don't begrudge the scots anything at all,
i don't mind you get more money per head because in the grand scheme of things ifs for the common good,
i don't mind you have a parliament because i do believe local issues should be dealt with locally, and with that it also means that accountability should also be dealt with locally (which is actually something you NEVER do)
my view about independence has always been the same as my view about brexit....
if you can present to me the absolute worst that could happen..... and i can say "well i can live with that!" then i'd be happy to vote for it.....
i'm not interested in some rosy eyed fantasy... i want reality
no one on the leave side did that... so i voted remain
no one on the yes side did that.... so i would have voted not
my bestie is scottish... she is a pragmatic scot who is realistic about the good and the bad... and therefore she can put a very well reasoned arguement together...
she actually thinks that rosy eyed anti english nationalists like you do the entire movement a huge disservice..... sometimes the most empty vessels make the loudest noise...
because your loudness doesn't actually encourage conversation... it is there to shut down dissenting opinion, which is why you are very quick to call people unpatriotic, or not being worthy,or throwing out the anti scot sentiment to anyone who disagrees....
sound familiar....
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"You really should do some research. You are wrong.Very wrong. Russia is a member only because the rest of the USSR supported it. Serbia is not a member because the rest of Tugs lava did not. Neither Slovakia nor The Czech Republic wanted a seat. If the UN - and note, not your opinion- decide the UK no longer exists, which they might, then BOTH countries would have to reapply. But, if you'd read up, you'd have found that out yourself. Apology accepted ))"Neither Yugoslavia, nor the Czechoslovakia were ever permentant members of the UN Security Council.
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"I didnt say they were. Neither wanted to apply. The point is......Russia is only a member because the rest of the USSR agreed. It is most definitely NOT a given England would remain a permanent member if the UK ceased to exist. It would NOT. Even rUK may not remain a member- it sounds like Scotland would have to agree or if the UN deem UK to no longer exist, rUK would not stay a member and would have to reapply no matter Scotland view. " Yet convention proves exactly the opposite of what you say. You don't "apply" to be a permentant member of the UN Security Council. It's been the same 5 countries from the beginning. | |||
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"For goodness sake- go do some research!!!! Fact is, it is not a given that the UK without Scotland would retain its place, be it permanent or temporary. Move on......" It is. Russia did it with the end of the USSR, China did it with the defeat of the Kuomintang and the loss of Taiwan. They did it, so would the rest of the UK. If you don't agree, please provide some evidence in the form of a UN Treaty or resolution stating your view that the UK wouldn't retain its seat. I have given you examples of 2 out of the 5 countries, this is a clear precedent and convention. | |||
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"Go look it up yourself lol. As I said, I'll take the apology as a given )))
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ?" You have to be invited on to the UN secuity council and an independent Scotland would be much like R OF I and only have a defence force therefore no seat !! | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state " No 3 = lie Huzma youseless stated on national tv that there was no intention of keeping her Maj after Indy. He admitted it was a lie so not to loose votes in the failed Indy ref one. | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks 1 no it can't 2 no it can't 3 no it can't Ok why is that ? You have to be invited on to the UN secuity council and an independent Scotland would be much like R OF I and only have a defence force therefore no seat !!" All permentant members of the UN Security Council are nuclear powers, SNP say Scotland won't be. | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors? Ok you asked for it If Scotland vote yes to become an independent Scotland then the UK does NOT exist duh!!! Did tou forget that Scottish St Andrews flag is in the union jack ? How fucking wmbarrassing lmao Now 3 is correct an independent Scotland can have the queen as head if state true ? 1. Damn it was a trick question! 2. So why are SNP supporters calling Walkers traitors? 3. Are you sure Nicola Sturgeon would be happy with the Queen of England being your head of state? I thought she wanted that position." Her Maj is not the english queen. she would remain the queen of the UK ( minus Scotland ) and NI | |||
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"For fuck sake Fabio lets just say England became independent ok So can an independent England do these things? "1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent england isn't the one that wants to become independent... Scotland is, the country that walks away is the one that loses the priviledges..... thats why scotland would have to apply to join the UN thats why scotland would have to apply to join the EU England already has a central bank... its call the Bank of England!!!! keep up!!!!! remember that is was Scotland that were at one point threatening to walk away and not take any of the debt...... I am glad the SNP have moved off that position, because it would kill them economically before it started.... " Fabio Scotland does not want to become independent that is why we voted to remain in 2014. | |||
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"in an Independent Scotland we can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies " If that's the case then why did the Scottish people vote to remain in the UK in 2014? | |||
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"Thank you for being honest See an independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies" I can name also name some things I doubt that you will be able to do. I doubt you will be able to afford to properly defend your territory and more to the point territorial waters. I also doubt that you will be able to sustain a full national economy and feed yourselves. I further doubt that you would be able to maintain your current levels of public services and standards of living. However I fully accept that these are my personal doubts and that although I can support my position with logic there is no empirical proof that I am correct and they are all achievable as a member of the EU. Therefore I would not name them as things that Scotland cannot achieve without the rest of the UK. However come 29th March 2019 Scotland will not be a member of the EU and would need to survive for long enough to rejoin the EU and during that period I would expect that Scotland would suffer even more severely that i expect the UK to suffer after we leave the EU. And during that period it is highly likely that there would be an exponential growth in extremist politics with all the disruption and destabilisation that entails. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me " If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? | |||
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"Thank you for being honest See an independent Scotland can achieve anything we wish we do not require the UK Union to achieve any of our policies I can name also name some things I doubt that you will be able to do. I doubt you will be able to afford to properly defend your territory and more to the point territorial waters. I also doubt that you will be able to sustain a full national economy and feed yourselves. I further doubt that you would be able to maintain your current levels of public services and standards of living. However I fully accept that these are my personal doubts and that although I can support my position with logic there is no empirical proof that I am correct and they are all achievable as a member of the EU. Therefore I would not name them as things that Scotland cannot achieve without the rest of the UK. However come 29th March 2019 Scotland will not be a member of the EU and would need to survive for long enough to rejoin the EU and during that period I would expect that Scotland would suffer even more severely that i expect the UK to suffer after we leave the EU. And during that period it is highly likely that there would be an exponential growth in extremist politics with all the disruption and destabilisation that entails." I voted to remain in 2014 !! But wont be able to feed ourselves What utter pish !!!!!!! | |||
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"1. A seat on the UN Security Council 2. The £ as currency 3. An independent nuclear deterrent Ok to move on 1 an independent Scotland can 2 an independent Scotland can 3 an independent Scotland can but wont we aint sick fucks Will an independent Scotland allow: 1. Walkers to produce Union Jack tins of shortbread? 2. Tunnocks wafers to have Union Jacks on them? 3 The Queen as their head of state? 1 be serious 2 be serious 3 yes an independent Scotland could keep the queen as head as state I am being serious. Both companies have been accused of being traitors by Independence supporters for selling products with Union Jacks on. Are they traitors? Ok you asked for it If Scotland vote yes to become an independent Scotland then the UK does NOT exist duh!!! Did tou forget that Scottish St Andrews flag is in the union jack ? How fucking wmbarrassing lmao Now 3 is correct an independent Scotland can have the queen as head if state true ?" Off course the UK will exist, that is why in indy debates Wales, England and NI were reffered to Rest of the United Kingdom !!!! So did you think they were going to change their name to squiggly land or something !!!!!!!! | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. " You haven't given you any examples from the security council | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? " Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council "I think you'll find I have. Move on...... | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin." You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council
I think you'll find I have.
Move on......"Hahaha you think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permentant members of the UN Security Council! And you tell others to do research! Hahaha  | |||
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"Can those that defend the UK name 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland ? With a bit of luck the OP will bore himself to death before us! " | |||
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"Can those that defend the UK name 3 things that can only be achieved in the UK union that cannot be achieved in an Independent Scotland ? With a bit of luck the OP will bore himself to death before us! "Never happen lol But as i keep telling you all no one is for ing yiu to comment I post and you keep coming lmao | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!!" Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here." AgIn you might but but England would lol | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol " More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. " Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council
I think you'll find I have.
Move on......
Hahaha you think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permentant members of the UN Security Council! And you tell others to do research! Hahaha "Seriously, you need to get a life. Or better still, read and assimilate. And educate yourself. | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council
I think you'll find I have.
Move on......
Hahaha you think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permentant members of the UN Security Council! And you tell others to do research! Hahaha
Seriously, you need to get a life. Or better still, read and assimilate. And educate yourself. "You mean like educate myself as to which 5 countries are permentant members of the UN Security Council? The UK (Not Scotland), France, Russia, China, the US. Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were never permentant members of the UN Security Council. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol " I can't answer for the rest of England that is why I didn't. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish " I refuse to list anything unless you let me put BMW. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish " I have only seen 1 person on this forum say that Scotland is too poor. That's you. Nothing I have said is anti Scottish. Remember last time you accused me of that but I has made identical statements about Thailand, Bolivia, Sudan and Yemen? I wasn't going to say BMW. But seeing as you have brought up cars, none are made in Scotland, but 1.7 million are built in England. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish " What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!!" How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council
I think you'll find I have.
Move on......
Hahaha you think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permentant members of the UN Security Council! And you tell others to do research! Hahaha
Seriously, you need to get a life. Or better still, read and assimilate. And educate yourself.
You mean like educate myself as to which 5 countries are permentant members of the UN Security Council? The UK (Not Scotland), France, Russia, China, the US.
Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were never permentant members of the UN Security Council. "You don't seem to be able to understand the text- quote me the bit that says 'Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permanent members'. Oh, and reread the bit about how Russia stayed a permanent member after the break up of USSR and why England won't be. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. " English whisky ? Seriously Whisky is made in Scotland nice try but failed | |||
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"No..... you think rUK would definitely retain their permanent seat. I've shown you that you are wrong and why. I've given examples, from the UN, about what happened when a new country- Serbia- wanted to retain the rights and privileges of Yugoslavia and that neither Slovakia or Czech Republic wanted to put themselves forward to it but most importantly- Russia only became a permanent member because all the other parts of the USSR agreed. Perhaps you can show a link that says England will retain their permanent member status, rather than apply as a new country ? From the UN, no less. You cannot. Now....move on. There's no more to be gained from this. You haven't given you any examples from the security council
I think you'll find I have.
Move on......
Hahaha you think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permentant members of the UN Security Council! And you tell others to do research! Hahaha
Seriously, you need to get a life. Or better still, read and assimilate. And educate yourself.
You mean like educate myself as to which 5 countries are permentant members of the UN Security Council? The UK (Not Scotland), France, Russia, China, the US.
Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were never permentant members of the UN Security Council.
You don't seem to be able to understand the text- quote me the bit that says 'Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permanent members'.
Oh, and reread the bit about how Russia stayed a permanent member after the break up of USSR and why England won't be.
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. English whisky ? Seriously Whisky is made in Scotland nice try but failed " So whiskey made in Scotland by and English company is Scottish, but a car made in England by a German company is German?  
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. " None are whiskey because whiskey is Irish. | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. English whisky ? Seriously Whisky is made in Scotland nice try but failed So whiskey made in Scotland by and English company is Scottish, but a car made in England by a German company is German?
You are gonna have to explain that one to me! "Come of kinky, don't shit your pants, explain it to us all! | |||
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"So CLCC if Scotland is not poor its wealthy ? Come on whats made in England and exported into Scotland ? Remember English made nit companies from other countries English made " see if you were paying attention i actually answered that in the other thread..... using the scottish governments own figures.... the scottish debt is roughly £15BN... or approx 9pc of GDP...... if you want some kind of comparison, the worse country debt wise in the EU is Greece..... their debt is approx 7.5pc of GDP you also have to remember that scotland does better out of the Barnett forumula, the rUK debt is approx 4.5pc of GDP | |||
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"The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve" I agreed with you up to there. And that's the only post I'm going to post on your daft thread. | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where " Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English. | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English. "Oh i forgot you have Iron Brew lmao | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English. "It's made in Nottingham | |||
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"The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve I agreed with you up to there. And that's the only post I'm going to post on your daft thread." At least you were truthful where is others are lying to themselves An independent Scotland can achieve anything Those that say tgat cant are happy to keep putting Scotland doon shite feart that it ciuld break their belived UK union Where as i say grow a pair of baws and stop trying to hold someones hand like a wee wean All four countries can make it as independent countries but many of you have said yourself the UK is not an equal union so why keep it ? | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English.
Oh i forgot you have Iron Brew lmao "There will be blood if we English stop the supplies of buck fast going beyond the wall.. | |||
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It's made in Nottingham "Away and dont talk shite get the brron stains oot your mooth lol A.G Barrs gets made in barrhead Glasgow | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English.
It's made in Nottingham
Away and dont talk shite get the brron stains oot your mooth lol
A.G Barrs gets made in barrhead Glasgow "Do your lies know no end? Irn-Bru (/?a??rn'bru?/ "iron brew") is a Scottishcarbonated soft drink, often described as "Scotland's other national drink" (after whisky).[1][2] It is produced in Westfield, Cumbernauld, North Lanarkshire, by A.G. Barr of Glasgow, since moving out of their Parkhead factory in the mid-2000s, and at a second manufacturing site in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru | |||
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It's made in Nottingham "Was it 'Call me Dave' who said you had no sense of humour on another thread, appears you still haven't found it then. | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English.
It's made in Nottingham
Away and dont talk shite get the brron stains oot your mooth lol
A.G Barrs gets made in barrhead Glasgow
Do your lies know no end?
Irn-Bru (/?a??rn'bru?/ "iron brew") is a Scottishcarbonated soft drink, often described as "Scotland's other national drink" (after whisky).[1][2] It is produced in Westfield, Cumbernauld, North Lanarkshire, by A.G. Barr of Glasgow, since moving out of their Parkhead factory in the mid-2000s, and at a second manufacturing site in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru"Jeez, you really have had a sense of humour bypass. My original comment was said in jest. Big hint was the smiley green face emoji. | |||
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"The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve I agreed with you up to there. And that's the only post I'm going to post on your daft thread. At least you were truthful where is others are lying to themselves An independent Scotland can achieve anything Those that say tgat cant are happy to keep putting Scotland doon shite feart that it ciuld break their belived UK union Where as i say grow a pair of baws and stop trying to hold someones hand like a wee wean All four countries can make it as independent countries but many of you have said yourself the UK is not an equal union so why keep it ? " But you need the EU to hold your hand like a wee wean in an independent Scotland don't you. | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where Kinky wants to take Irn Bru away from the English.
It's made in Nottingham
Away and dont talk shite get the brron stains oot your mooth lol
A.G Barrs gets made in barrhead Glasgow
Do your lies know no end?
Irn-Bru (/?a??rn'bru?/ "iron brew") is a Scottishcarbonated soft drink, often described as "Scotland's other national drink" (after whisky).[1][2] It is produced in Westfield, Cumbernauld, North Lanarkshire, by A.G. Barr of Glasgow, since moving out of their Parkhead factory in the mid-2000s, and at a second manufacturing site in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru
Jeez, you really have had a sense of humour bypass. My original comment was said in jest. Big hint was the smiley green face emoji. "I'm just schooling kinky, that's all. | |||
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"The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve I agreed with you up to there. And that's the only post I'm going to post on your daft thread. At least you were truthful where is others are lying to themselves An independent Scotland can achieve anything Those that say tgat cant are happy to keep putting Scotland doon shite feart that it ciuld break their belived UK union Where as i say grow a pair of baws and stop trying to hold someones hand like a wee wean All four countries can make it as independent countries but many of you have said yourself the UK is not an equal union so why keep it ? But you need the EU to hold your hand like a wee wean in an independent Scotland don't you. " Lol the EU is more of a union than the UK is The 27 independent countries all work together Where as in the UK goveenment do not respect Scotland Wales and NI | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. English whisky ? Seriously Whisky is made in Scotland nice try but failed " But owned by international companies like Diagio and recard perno | |||
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"Piss poor Come on what is mande in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Think England will miss Scottish meat fruit whisky gin soft drinks fish spring water porridge oil? Thats what England lose if they refuse to trade with an independent Scotland which doesnt really bother me as we will take it else where " I think you will find a high percentage of grain used in whisky production comes from out with Scotland most likely England as Scotland could not supply the amount or quality required by the industry. When I used to work in Islay in the early eighties there were regular grain shipments for the local distillarys !!! | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin. You might but will England be able to just to stop trading with Scotland ? Is that what your saying if Scotland gains indpendence England would stop trade with Scotland ? Mental!!!!!! Please read what I said again and tell me where I said if Scotland gains independence England would stop trade with Scotland. What I said was I wouldn't miss any of the items you listed from Scotland because I dont use them or I would be able to source them here. AgIn you might but but England would lol More stuff is made in England, than in Scotland. You know, the population of just London is double that of Scotland, so Scotland would lose out a lot more if trade were to stop. Ok lets test it what gets made in England that gets exported to Scotland ? Do not try and say BMW as you know that German not English You hell bent on saying Scotland is too poor eh Nasty nasty anti Scottish pish What difference does the fact that bmw Toyota Honda Vauxaull etc are foreign owned, the products are still munufactured in England !!! How about the following whiskeys: Bells Banff Brora Caledonian Dalwhinnie Glen Spey Glenleven Haig Haig club J&B Johnny Walker Oban Robbie burns Talisker Are they Scottish or English? Made in Scotland, owned by an English company. English whisky ? Seriously Whisky is made in Scotland nice try but failed " Whiskey is also made in England , Wales and Ireland , please note the different spelling from Scottish Whisky !!! | |||
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" You don't seem to be able to understand the text- quote me the bit that says 'Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were permanent members'. Oh, and reread the bit about how Russia stayed a permanent member after the break up of USSR and why England won't be. Your examples keep supporting my point!
It's also hilarious that you think the UK is just made up of England and Scotland! Yet you still tell others to do research! "Have you been drinking? I'm sorry you can't grasp the point and I'm sorry you have lost track of the conversation and why England is mentioned but I'm sure everyone else is bored with this. | |||
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"I might start popping in here more often, this place is fucking hilarious to read!
Friday nights seem to be the best "Oor Kinky is certainly entertaining! Wonder what the other residents of Auchenshoogle think. | |||
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"The truth is There is nothing we in an Independent Scotland can achieve I agreed with you up to there. And that's the only post I'm going to post on your daft thread. At least you were truthful where is others are lying to themselves An independent Scotland can achieve anything Those that say tgat cant are happy to keep putting Scotland doon shite feart that it ciuld break their belived UK union Where as i say grow a pair of baws and stop trying to hold someones hand like a wee wean All four countries can make it as independent countries but many of you have said yourself the UK is not an equal union so why keep it ? " We agree but for different reasons lol . The union is Unfair to England . Ps Wensyldale Cheese ! | |||
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"rebuild the wall if you ask me If England wanna pay for it then go right ahead But remember no oil no Scottish meat ,fish ,soft drinks , whisky , gin , spring water You wilking to give all of that up ? Not a very convincing argument... Oil I can get elsewhere. I can get English meat and fish. Don't drink Irn Bru, Scotch whisky or gin. Bristol water from the tap is better than Scottish spring water. Only thing I'd miss is shortbread in a Union Jack tin." Well stated | |||
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