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"Anything is possible, only time will tell I guess " Yup very true and time is running out lol | |||
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"Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky?" | |||
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"Good question Beefy, I wonder if he will answer you. " I told you if you want me to answer that go answer my question on the other thread You never answered it all you did was ask the question you keep asking so no i wont answer this until you answer that question ok | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance " In your opinion | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion " Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance | |||
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"Good question Beefy, I wonder if he will answer you. I told you if you want me to answer that go answer my question on the other thread You never answered it all you did was ask the question you keep asking so no i wont answer this until you answer that question ok " Beefy asked it, is it the question or me you are "shite feart" from? . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance " It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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"Ticklybit you really are now sounding very anti Scottish Uk union transcends all for you no matter the cost Cant bare to see Scottish people ever want independence eh I told you no doubt you will have some belive you but you seem happy to deny those that have changed their minds and would vote independence Oh no the UK union is under threat cant have that people must not be allowed to ever want independence eh lol " Unlike ticklyblit i am not for or against the union, however i am sick of your hypocrisy , you slate those who want brexit as it will damage scotland, while all the time wanting something that would cause even more damage | |||
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"Ticklybit you really are now sounding very anti Scottish Uk union transcends all for you no matter the cost Cant bare to see Scottish people ever want independence eh I told you no doubt you will have some belive you but you seem happy to deny those that have changed their minds and would vote independence Oh no the UK union is under threat cant have that people must not be allowed to ever want independence eh lol Unlike ticklyblit i am not for or against the union, however i am sick of your hypocrisy , you slate those who want brexit as it will damage scotland, while all the time wanting something that would cause even more damage" In your opinion You just claimed you are not " for or against" could have fooled me As you just said "while all the time wanting something that would cause even more damage" Found out so dont claim something your not just say your against independence i can see it by that little bit you just said | |||
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"Ticklybit you really are now sounding very anti Scottish Uk union transcends all for you no matter the cost Cant bare to see Scottish people ever want independence eh I told you no doubt you will have some belive you but you seem happy to deny those that have changed their minds and would vote independence Oh no the UK union is under threat cant have that people must not be allowed to ever want independence eh lol Unlike ticklyblit i am not for or against the union, however i am sick of your hypocrisy , you slate those who want brexit as it will damage scotland, while all the time wanting something that would cause even more damage In your opinion You just claimed you are not " for or against" could have fooled me As you just said "while all the time wanting something that would cause even more damage" Found out so dont claim something your not just say your against independence i can see it by that little bit you just said " Thats the thing , i can see both the pros and cons in the union but ultimately believe its for you to decide , i am simply pointing out your cowardice and hypocrisy | |||
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" Why are so many such afraid to go oot in the big bad world on their own ? Too afraid your country will be doomed as an independent country ? Always need to take somebodies hand ?" Seems like you're afraid to go out in to the big bad world on your own kinky, and you're too afraid Scotland will be doomed as an independent country, so you need the EU to hold your hand. | |||
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" Why are so many such afraid to go oot in the big bad world on their own ? Too afraid your country will be doomed as an independent country ? Always need to take somebodies hand ? Seems like you're afraid to go out in to the big bad world on your own kinky, and you're too afraid Scotland will be doomed as an independent country, so you need the EU to hold your hand. " How much power does Westminster have over Scotland right now In %? How much power would the EU have over an independent Scotland ? Lets see you answer that eh i bet you wont too afraid of the truth | |||
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" Why are so many such afraid to go oot in the big bad world on their own ? Too afraid your country will be doomed as an independent country ? Always need to take somebodies hand ? Seems like you're afraid to go out in to the big bad world on your own kinky, and you're too afraid Scotland will be doomed as an independent country, so you need the EU to hold your hand. How much power does Westminster have over Scotland right now In %? How much power would the EU have over an independent Scotland ? Lets see you answer that eh i bet you wont too afraid of the truth " I'll make you a deal, I'll answer your question when you answer _icklybits question, after all he's asked you the same question at least 2 dozen times now and he's still had no reply from you and you've persistently avoided his question. I bet you won't answer _icklybits question though as you're too afraid of the truth.  | |||
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"Cowardice for all to see. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky?" seeing as how it's open day on cutting and pasting across the whole forum, the question is, what benefit is it to scotland being chained to the lead weight that england is after jumping into the septic-tank of brexit? the two countries might well end up going down the shitter, but then the fat carcass that is england will sink quicker and deeper. maybe it is time to let the scots fuck things up their own way rather than have others fuck things up for them | |||
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"Cowardice for all to see. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? seeing as how it's open day on cutting and pasting across the whole forum, the question is, what benefit is it to scotland being chained to the lead weight that england is after jumping into the septic-tank of brexit? the two countries might well end up going down the shitter, but then the fat carcass that is england will sink quicker and deeper. maybe it is time to let the scots fuck things up their own way rather than have others fuck things up for them"   | |||
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"Cowardice for all to see. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? seeing as how it's open day on cutting and pasting across the whole forum, the question is, what benefit is it to scotland being chained to the lead weight that england is after jumping into the septic-tank of brexit? the two countries might well end up going down the shitter, but then the fat carcass that is england will sink quicker and deeper. maybe it is time to let the scots fuck things up their own way rather than have others fuck things up for them" Us Scots had the vote. We chose to stay in the UK. Poor Kinky... | |||
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"Cowardice for all to see. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? seeing as how it's open day on cutting and pasting across the whole forum, the question is, what benefit is it to scotland being chained to the lead weight that england is after jumping into the septic-tank of brexit? the two countries might well end up going down the shitter, but then the fat carcass that is england will sink quicker and deeper. maybe it is time to let the scots fuck things up their own way rather than have others fuck things up for them" Shouldn't you be including your own country Wales in there alongside England, considering a majority in Wales also voted for Brexit. | |||
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"Cowardice for all to see. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? seeing as how it's open day on cutting and pasting across the whole forum, the question is, what benefit is it to scotland being chained to the lead weight that england is after jumping into the septic-tank of brexit? the two countries might well end up going down the shitter, but then the fat carcass that is england will sink quicker and deeper. maybe it is time to let the scots fuck things up their own way rather than have others fuck things up for them Us Scots had the vote. We chose to stay in the UK. Poor Kinky... " So people clearly don't get the concept of Democracy It's not a one off event lol Things can change unless your going to claim no one is allowed to change their minds on Scottish Independence? | |||
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"Ticklybit you really are now sounding very anti Scottish Uk union transcends all for you no matter the cost Cant bare to see Scottish people ever want independence eh I told you no doubt you will have some belive you but you seem happy to deny those that have changed their minds and would vote independence Oh no the UK union is under threat cant have that people must not be allowed to ever want independence eh lol " Ticklybit is anti Scottish, only an English man moving up to Scotland can have an attitude like he has, he enjoys all the good of Scotland but cannot shake off his English roots or his loyalty to the Queen & Westminster. | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky?" Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help." Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment. | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment." Key word "Faith". | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment." I think you'll find it's more embarrassing to base your views on faith, wilfully ignoring evidence, trusting to political groups based on xenophobia and who tell outright lies then claim anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic. | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment. I think you'll find it's more embarrassing to base your views on faith, wilfully ignoring evidence, trusting to political groups based on xenophobia and who tell outright lies then claim anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic." which political group would that be then? | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment. I think you'll find it's more embarrassing to base your views on faith, wilfully ignoring evidence, trusting to political groups based on xenophobia and who tell outright lies then claim anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic. which political group would that be then?" There's a variety of groups like that, first and foremost in Scotland is clearly the SNP, remember their lies over Scotland being in the EU post independence, the ones that were shot down immediately by the EU? Remember the video footage of SNP supporters trailing opposition politicians round the streets harassing them? Remember the straight up bolloxs Salmond came out with about a Scottish currency? But hey, if you have blind faith, can stick a saltire on it, none of that matters. | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment. I think you'll find it's more embarrassing to base your views on faith, wilfully ignoring evidence, trusting to political groups based on xenophobia and who tell outright lies then claim anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic. which political group would that be then? There's a variety of groups like that, first and foremost in Scotland is clearly the SNP, remember their lies over Scotland being in the EU post independence, the ones that were shot down immediately by the EU? Remember the video footage of SNP supporters trailing opposition politicians round the streets harassing them? Remember the straight up bolloxs Salmond came out with about a Scottish currency? But hey, if you have blind faith, can stick a saltire on it, none of that matters. " Are you saying I am wrong to support independence simply because I do not support or follow snp? | |||
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"For crying out loud kinky will you just admit that despite it being twice as damaging to the scottish economy than a hard brexit , you would pay the price for independance In your opinion Ok just admit that to you any price is worth paying for independance It transcends all. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? Hence he's declared jihad. Truth, research, people matter not. It is the one true faith of independence that is all. Every question "what about" "surely if that's the case" etc simply re-enforce his paranoia and xenophobia. England and the English are not people, they are the enemies of Scotland, and my enemies enemy is my friend. Taking a pro EU line is not about what's good for Scotland, it's about hurting the English. And this sort of thinking is unhealthy, caustic and damaging. He needs help. Why? Because he is Proud of his Nation!! . Scotland has the only population in the World that fear Independence, you can understand this from some English who have moved up here like _icklybit, but for others not to stand proud and have faith in their own people is an embarrassment. I think you'll find it's more embarrassing to base your views on faith, wilfully ignoring evidence, trusting to political groups based on xenophobia and who tell outright lies then claim anyone who disagrees with them is unpatriotic. which political group would that be then? There's a variety of groups like that, first and foremost in Scotland is clearly the SNP, remember their lies over Scotland being in the EU post independence, the ones that were shot down immediately by the EU? Remember the video footage of SNP supporters trailing opposition politicians round the streets harassing them? Remember the straight up bolloxs Salmond came out with about a Scottish currency? But hey, if you have blind faith, can stick a saltire on it, none of that matters. Are you saying I am wrong to support independence simply because I do not support or follow snp?" Please can you copy and paste where I have said that above? Thanks in advance. | |||
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"You can now see the anti Scottish in a few folks in here They can't even tell that the SNP is not independence and Independence is not SNP lol Even trying to say that people that followed the opposition were SNP supporters lmao How is you possibly know that? Newsflash you can be pro Indy and not support or vote for the SNP" Clue They were wearing SNP rosettes, carrying SNP election leaflets. And you are off on your xenophobic line again. Get help. | |||
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"I think there is an inevitably Scotland will vote to leave the UK one day. Whether Brexit is the issue that tips the balance in favour of independence, I don't know. But it will happen one day, I think. I just don't know when." yup the youth is on the side of Scottish Independence and I believe EU citizens will now vote for independence seeing how the UK is treating our fellow EU citizens
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Well, if it's anything like the UK when it's divided 52-48 about staying in another union, good luck trying to heal the wounds of dissolving the Act of Union. The wounds will be a lot deeper and more scarring than what we're living through at the moment.
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Well, if it's anything like the UK when it's divided 52-48 about staying in another union, good luck trying to heal the wounds of dissolving the Act of Union. The wounds will be a lot deeper and more scarring than what we're living through at the moment.
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Scotland is a Proud Nation!"There is no difference - people are people the country over. I watched 10,000 Orange people march against independence in Edinburgh and shivered at the prospect of a civil war. British nationalists object to being part of a structure they cannot control, and Scottish nationalists object to being part of a structure they cannot control. Your average person does not understand how either works, so the populists play to the basic instincts of hatred. Come independence, Kinky, I'm sure you will feel proud. Just as the British nationalists today are feeling proud. But you will be surrounded by people in a state of complete distress about what is happening. | |||
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Well, if it's anything like the UK when it's divided 52-48 about staying in another union, good luck trying to heal the wounds of dissolving the Act of Union. The wounds will be a lot deeper and more scarring than what we're living through at the moment.
Brexit has brought out the intrinsic xenophobia in many people down south and I've no doubt Scexit (
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There is no difference - people are people the country over.
I watched 10,000 Orange people march against independence in Edinburgh and shivered at the prospect of a civil war.
British nationalists object to being part of a structure they cannot control, and Scottish nationalists object to being part of a structure they cannot control.
Your average person does not understand how either works, so the populists play to the basic instincts of hatred.
Come independence, Kinky, I'm sure you will feel proud. Just as the British nationalists today are feeling proud. But you will be surrounded by people in a state of complete distress about what is happening.
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"Where is the evidence that says Scotland could go it alone successfully? History does not back it up. It would only be successful if it became an EU puppet. There'd be no veto for you. And control would move to Brussels. That's IF they let you in... i guess you could become a tax haven..... normally bad news for the populous though. " Oh my fucking mistake Scotland is far too poor to ever be independent we need England to save us and we in Scotland have no tax or revenue we need help Away and dont talk pish! Wake up the UK is a fucking tax haven why gell do you think the elite stay rich ? | |||
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"Lol handing out leaflets is not harssing people Yeah right ok whatever you say Am not the one calling SNP members jihads Can you answer this what was jihadi John again? I'm the one calling some SNP members jihadis, I carefully explained to you what jihadi and jihad means. Harassing people, well driving round an estate to find them, getting in their faces and screaming abuse in their faces is harassment. Try doing it with someone of the opposite sex and see how long before you are lifted. And to fully and completely answer your post jihadi John was a newspaper name for a Kuwaiti extremist. Have you sought help yet?" Ah now you backtracked now its " some SNP members " Oh and i suppose yoons didnt assend onto George Sq on the 19th Sept 2014 in Glasgow btw holding up their nazi salutes and attacking people ? Also they ripped the Scottish fleg off two females and spat at them I suppose that didnt happen eh ? Ok here is a reminder of that nasty night of British yoons https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cSxddgJXxmE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CCt7tyvoxb4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=me0r90W7JsU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jm9tYADzi0M Those vids make you feel proud ? | |||
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"Where is the evidence that says Scotland could go it alone successfully? History does not back it up. It would only be successful if it became an EU puppet. There'd be no veto for you. And control would move to Brussels. That's IF they let you in... i guess you could become a tax haven..... normally bad news for the populous though. Oh my fucking mistake Scotland is far too poor to ever be independent we need England to save us and we in Scotland have no tax or revenue we need help Away and dont talk pish! Wake up the UK is a fucking tax haven why gell do you think the elite stay rich ? " So. What makes you think a totally independent Scotland could be successful? | |||
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" Ticklybit is anti Scottish, only an English man moving up to Scotland can have an attitude like he has, he enjoys all the good of Scotland but cannot shake off his English roots or his loyalty to the Queen & Westminster." Why do you have problem with English men? Do you have any evidence to support the claim that I am English? Is accusing someone of being English a smear or a derogatory term in your opinion. Your posts are simply xenophobic, and exposes the disgusting blood and soil nationalism that most decent people would consider as reprehensible. . Maybe you could give it a go, seeing kinky is too "shite feart" to try. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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"I read all kinkys posts in the voice of William Wallace or groundsman willy from the Simpsons. No offence it's just entertaining
I always assumed it was the wife. And what the fuck is a yoon?! Its people like this that make me want to see an independent Scotland. "Yup it flies right over your heed lol Why not want English independence ? A yoon is a unionist Scottish slang I know some will try and claim its an insult but weird when i ask then is "cybernat" " Scottish natzi " not insults they all fall silent and think thats ok so moot point really | |||
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"Ticklybit I actually couldnt care less what yoons call pro indy supporters But i will call out the double standards Its funny how Ticklybit you attack me on my language But say For Fox Sake no no you wont say a damn word about him using the word jihadis to describe SNP members Yoons stick together in their wee gang lol " As stated earlier, he sees anything that isn't pro SNP as an attack and goes further into a paranoid state. The delusion becomes self re-enforcing. He's approaching peak jihad. | |||
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"I think the UK will remain after Brexit.When Scotland had their referendum weather to stay or leave.I believe it was 55 % stay. The main reason they seem to stay was that that the leave party seem to have no plans for pensions , student loans or even what currency to use.Unless there is something clear to vote for I think most people will stick with what they know which is what Scotland did." Many of the questions from 2014 have not been addressed so we really are no further forward. I don't think brexit is the biggie kinky HOPES it will be !!! | |||
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" scotland won't loose one pound of exports to England everything that scotland sends south to England needs they can't do without it ,scotland have the upper hand when they deal with England , That's exactly what the British nationalists say about leaving the EU - oh, the car-makers in Germany, the wine-growers in France, the tomato growers in Spain, they think we're so important there will be no change to trade. Er, no. This is politics. And when one bit of the union sticks the middle finger up at the rest of the union, don't expect them to do you any favours as you grab your coat on the way out. If economics decided these things, we'd never have had a referendum. It's politics, not economics." Ya England needs scotland , scotland will be able to sell into England and England will be happy to buy , | |||
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"Ticklybit I actually couldnt care less what yoons call pro indy supporters But i will call out the double standards Its funny how Ticklybit you attack me on my language But say For Fox Sake no no you wont say a damn word about him using the word jihadis to describe SNP members Yoons stick together in their wee gang lol " I'm responsible for that which I post. You are responsible for that which you post. Fox is responsible for that which he posts. He has explained why he used the word "Jihadis" and he showed that it meant struggle. You typically and hysterically interpreted it as a terrorist, despite him explaining it to you on a few occasions exactly what he meant. You just don't listen! I am not responsible for that which other people post. You say you will call out double standards but not your own! Or even the xenophobic posts by Rare Cask, but you are not responsible for that either. However it does make your statement of calling out double standards sound quite hollow when YOU don't practice what you preach. Unless you approve of Rare Casks unfounded allegations and xenophobic remarks? Do you? . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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"Ok lets spin this right round and see the answer How many of you believe an independent England would be successful? Of course it can be successful on its as can scotland as can Ireland " Yes i believe that too but watch those that claim Scotland is far too poor to ever be independent But then they will claim yes England will be successful just not Scotland Then we shall see the true anti Scottish come out Or the England subsides Scotland bullshit but fail to see if the truly believe that why keep Scotland leeching off England then lol | |||
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
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"Come on Kinky, Please enlighten how Scotland at this present moment in time can stand own it’s own? Or are you now realising that the people on here are only telling you the truth. That Scotland at this present moment in time can’t." Great proud Scotland but want to talk Scotland down oh my we are Soo fucking poor in Scotland we need England help Pishhhh | |||
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And saying that an independent Scotland would not be successful?"So, yet again you prove that you have nothing in the locker? Rather than taking responsibility and stating a clear answer, you hide. Now of course you will use this to feed your paranoia, add a few logs to the fire of grievance. And this is why you need to seek clinical help. | |||
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"Talk my country down are you crazy? Tell me how the economy would survive? Tell me the trade Scotland has outside of the UK? Come on answer me that one oh yeah that’s right you can’t!!!!" Ok first off an independent Scotland stops sending Westminster money no more tax or revenue from Scotland that stays in Scotland Unless you think Scotland sends no tax or revenue to Westminster? No more Tory cuts forced on Scotland no more Tories telling us that if we don't agree with Tories cuts to fucking mitigate it we would have full control over all powers Tell me why you would rather have the Tories tell Scotland what powers we can have and what money we get in a budget? Btw independence is not ALL about money it's about the right to self govern you heard of that before? Aslo Scotland takes back Scottish waters no more oil for Westminster Scotland either in the EU or out and in the single market and customs union an independent Scotland gets to trade with 500 million And you think 65 million UK market is better ? Scotland won't miss it England however need Scotland exports Why in the hell do you think they are slapping the shite union jack on Scottish product and leaving from English ports exports go to the UK treasury to give Scotland some pocket money back Yet you have some in here believe England subsidy Scotland lmao yet English services are in meltdown and people are trying to mug you off to believe they are helping us and don't wanna see that money go to English services like the NHS don't be a mug England need Scotland money from tax and revenue as they can't see that the elite down their are robbing them and until they fix that they will keep telling themselves that England subsidy Scotland lol | |||
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"Fullfact.org "Published: 18th May 2017 In recent years more money has been spent in Scotland than has been collected, whether or not you count money collected from the North Sea oil and gas industries. This has also been the case over the last 18 years if you look at the revenue collected and money spent per person in Scotland." Scotland receives more money than it raises. " See the old England subsidy Scotland trick Watch this For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? Lol | |||
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" Btw independence is not ALL about money it's about the right to self govern you heard of that before? " I've heard that before yes, because the same can be said about Brexit. Leaving the EU is not all about money it's about the right of the UK to self govern. Why do you think this is ok for Scotland but if a Brexiter says the same in relation to leaving the EU you pour scorn on it? | |||
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"Fullfact.org "Published: 18th May 2017 In recent years more money has been spent in Scotland than has been collected, whether or not you count money collected from the North Sea oil and gas industries. This has also been the case over the last 18 years if you look at the revenue collected and money spent per person in Scotland." Scotland receives more money than it raises. See the old England subsidy Scotland trick Watch this For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? Lol" You made an assertion that money goes from Scotland to England. That is untrue. You are using UKIP/Breitbart tactics to avoid accepting you got it wrong. Distract and Divert. | |||
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" He is an adult not a wean he doesn't need you holding his hand" And do you think you are being an adult by ignoring reality? Are you being an adult by failing to address a valid question? If it's a personal issue you have with me, that's fine, I'll live. But the question remains, whether I ask it or any one else. Thats the reality of the situation. If someone else asked the question, what would your excuse be then for not giving an honest answer, I wonder. . But remains it does. Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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" Also Scotland takes back Scottish waters no more oil for Westminster " You'll be taking back control of Scottish fishing waters through Brexit, but by wanting an independent Scotland to stay in or rejoin the EU you'll be surrendering that control of Scottish fishing waters back to Brussels and the EU again. | |||
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"Fullfact.org "Published: 18th May 2017 In recent years more money has been spent in Scotland than has been collected, whether or not you count money collected from the North Sea oil and gas industries. This has also been the case over the last 18 years if you look at the revenue collected and money spent per person in Scotland." Scotland receives more money than it raises. See the old England subsidy Scotland trick Watch this For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? Lol You made an assertion that money goes from Scotland to England. That is untrue. You are using UKIP/Breitbart tactics to avoid accepting you got it wrong. Distract and Divert. " Shat out answering lol Now you seriously about to claim no tax or revenue raised in Scotland goes to the UK treasury ? That a red neck For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money that you claim England subidies Scotland with being spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? | |||
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" Also Scotland takes back Scottish waters no more oil for Westminster You'll be taking back control of Scottish fishing waters through Brexit, but by wanting an independent Scotland to stay in or rejoin the EU you'll be surrendering that control of Scottish fishing waters back to Brussels and the EU again. " lol have you come up with % yet on How much power does Westminster have over Scotland right now In %? How much power would the EU have over an independent Scotland ? I dare you to put a figure on those % eh then we will have some laugh lol | |||
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"So Fox For Sake You are saying England would be successful as an independent country But you think Scotland would fail as an jndependent country ? Before I answer can you address the questions posed by tickly. It would be rude to jump the queue. Offt do you need to hold his hand ? No no you answer my question Kinkster, you absolutely refuse to answer simple direct questions, when backed into a corner ( usually of your own making) you dissolve into childish rage or xenophobic abuse. So bows your chance to really stick one one, my chin is out, undefended. Prove me wrong, answer ticklys questions. Go on, the court is yours.
He is an adult not a wean he doesn't need you holding his hand
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" Also Scotland takes back Scottish waters no more oil for Westminster You'll be taking back control of Scottish fishing waters through Brexit, but by wanting an independent Scotland to stay in or rejoin the EU you'll be surrendering that control of Scottish fishing waters back to Brussels and the EU again. lol have you come up with % yet on How much power does Westminster have over Scotland right now In %? How much power would the EU have over an independent Scotland ? I dare you to put a figure on those % eh then we will have some laugh lol" I told you previously I'll happily answer that when you answer _icklybits question. | |||
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"Talk my country down are you crazy? Tell me how the economy would survive? Tell me the trade Scotland has outside of the UK? Come on answer me that one oh yeah that’s right you can’t!!!!" Nothing prevents an independent scotland trading with the uk | |||
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"So Fox For Sake You are saying England would be successful as an independent country But you think Scotland would fail as an jndependent country ? Before I answer can you address the questions posed by tickly. It would be rude to jump the queue. Offt do you need to hold his hand ? No no you answer my question Kinkster, you absolutely refuse to answer simple direct questions, when backed into a corner ( usually of your own making) you dissolve into childish rage or xenophobic abuse. So bows your chance to really stick one one, my chin is out, undefended. Prove me wrong, answer ticklys questions. Go on, the court is yours.
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"Talk my country down are you crazy? Tell me how the economy would survive? Tell me the trade Scotland has outside of the UK? Come on answer me that one oh yeah that’s right you can’t!!!! Nothing prevents an independent scotland trading with the uk " Yup very true What tgey seem to be saying is they woukdnt want to trade with an independent Scotland ok fine qith will take it else where and see where that gets you lol | |||
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"Fullfact.org "Published: 18th May 2017 In recent years more money has been spent in Scotland than has been collected, whether or not you count money collected from the North Sea oil and gas industries. This has also been the case over the last 18 years if you look at the revenue collected and money spent per person in Scotland." Scotland receives more money than it raises. See the old England subsidy Scotland trick Watch this For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? Lol You made an assertion that money goes from Scotland to England. That is untrue. You are using UKIP/Breitbart tactics to avoid accepting you got it wrong. Distract and Divert. Shat out answering lol Now you seriously about to claim no tax or revenue raised in Scotland goes to the UK treasury ? That a red neck For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money that you claim England subidies Scotland with being spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? " You have painted yourself into a corner, you made an assertion that was easy to demonstrate as false. When faced with evidence you got it badly wrong, you tried to change the topic. You are either a liar,or stupid or a troll. You can choose whichever you wish. However I think you have health issues. You need to step back from the keyboard and think about what you are doing. | |||
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" I done what you asked i answered Tickly " I never noticed it, did anyone else see him answer it? . “So for as long as Scotland’s funding is still determined by Westminster then the Barnett formula should stay in place. | |||
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"Soo Now i am waiting on answers from these have you come up with % yet on How much power does Westminster have over Scotland right now In %? How much power would the EU have over an independent Scotland ? I dare you to put a figure on those % eh" We're still waiting on an answer from you to _icklybits question. | |||
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"Yup i know when i an starting to get to yous lol Thelack of answers and then oot pops the get help crap I done what you asked i answered Tickly Now please lets here you answer these or you afraid too Now you seriously about to claim no tax or revenue raised in Scotland goes to the UK treasury ? That a red neck For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money that you claim England subidies Scotland with being spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? "" Except it's not crap and you know it's not crap. All tax raised in the UK goes to the treasury. It is then distributed. Scotland gets back more than it pays in. I'm not claiming it, it is evidenced. I want government revenue to go to areas that need it most. Scotland under the SNP has a poor health record ( life expectancy is a good measure), it also has a failing school system ( slipping down the league tables) . Perhaps they need the funding? Perhaps if it's government spent less time on chasing independence and more time on the day job it would not need the extra revenue? And no you have not answered ticklys questions. You have tried to deflect and divert to avoid the questions. | |||
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"Tickly there you go heres your answer i will now wait on you all answering mine as you will now get no answers now out if me if you ask anything "Ok yes i want independence and would vote for to break the Uk as every country should be independent Now yes i know they way yoons will soin that claiming oh look your gonna damage Scotland with being independent in your opionion Your all shite feart to wven allow Scottish voters to make theur own minds uo no fucking doubt you will have people believe you But your happy to try and deny those that have changes their minds on independence as yiur all shite feart bricking it that Scotland would vote to leave yourwee beloved UK lol Now tgat i have answered the floor is yours everyone so no i expect to to answer my questions now but i know you will shit out it" "That doesn't answer what _icklybit asked though. | |||
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"Tickly there you go heres your answer i will now wait on you all answering mine as you will now get no answers now out if me if you ask anything "Ok yes i want independence and would vote for to break the Uk as every country should be independent Now yes i know they way yoons will soin that claiming oh look your gonna damage Scotland with being independent in your opionion Your all shite feart to wven allow Scottish voters to make theur own minds uo no fucking doubt you will have people believe you But your happy to try and deny those that have changes their minds on independence as yiur all shite feart bricking it that Scotland would vote to leave yourwee beloved UK lol Now tgat i have answered the floor is yours everyone so no i expect to to answer my questions now but i know you will shit out it"
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"Yup i know when i an starting to get to yous lol Thelack of answers and then oot pops the get help crap I done what you asked i answered Tickly Now please lets here you answer these or you afraid too Now you seriously about to claim no tax or revenue raised in Scotland goes to the UK treasury ? That a red neck For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money that you claim England subidies Scotland with being spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? " Except it's not crap and you know it's not crap. All tax raised in the UK goes to the treasury. It is then distributed. Scotland gets back more than it pays in. I'm not claiming it, it is evidenced. I want government revenue to go to areas that need it most. Scotland under the SNP has a poor health record ( life expectancy is a good measure), it also has a failing school system ( slipping down the league tables) . Perhaps they need the funding? Perhaps if it's government spent less time on chasing independence and more time on the day job it would not need the extra revenue? And no you have not answered ticklys questions. You have tried to deflect and divert to avoid the questions. " No its not crap So all tax an revenue in Scotland goes to the UK treasury and we get a refund on that money lol So let me get right so are claiming you want this English subsidy money to be spent on helping Scotland but you sont wanna see it spend on England yeah fucking right lol Ah right its all SNP fault right so why is it Scotland keep electing the SNP then ? | |||
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"Yup i know when i an starting to get to yous lol Thelack of answers and then oot pops the get help crap I done what you asked i answered Tickly Now please lets here you answer these or you afraid too Now you seriously about to claim no tax or revenue raised in Scotland goes to the UK treasury ? That a red neck For Fox Sake why do you not wanna see that money that you claim England subidies Scotland with being spent on English services like the NHS that's in meltdown? " Except it's not crap and you know it's not crap. All tax raised in the UK goes to the treasury. It is then distributed. Scotland gets back more than it pays in. I'm not claiming it, it is evidenced. I want government revenue to go to areas that need it most. Scotland under the SNP has a poor health record ( life expectancy is a good measure), it also has a failing school system ( slipping down the league tables) . Perhaps they need the funding? Perhaps if it's government spent less time on chasing independence and more time on the day job it would not need the extra revenue? And no you have not answered ticklys questions. You have tried to deflect and divert to avoid the questions. No its not crap So all tax an revenue in Scotland goes to the UK treasury and we get a refund on that money lol So let me get right so are claiming you want this English subsidy money to be spent on helping Scotland but you sont wanna see it spend on England yeah fucking right lol Ah right its all SNP fault right so why is it Scotland keep electing the SNP then ?" No Scotland does not get a "refund" that term implies only a portion is provided. It receives more than it pays in, a net beneficiary. This is identified on the fullfacts.org website. I am happy to see the money spent where it is needed. Again Scotland has health service issues under the SNP and it's school system is failing. Given that the Tory party flipped 13 seats at the last election, from the SNP it would suggest all is not well. | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right " You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. " NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ?" If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ?" They didn't win in 2016 Lost the majority and sits with green party in a coalition. In the past they have sat in coalition with the conservative party. Oh and the Scottish health service is struggling under the SNP is not a claim. That's audit Scotland saying it. Dig out the performance of Scotland schools in the international tables. You believe that whatever the problem, independence is the answer. Regardless of the suffering it inflicts. But let's get back to you answering tickles questions... | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? " Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? " And yet again you divert the thread. No one is "shitting bricks". The fundamental problems Scotland has, as has been repeatedly pointed out to you, is that if you think the economic effects of brexit are bad, the effects of Scottish independence on Scotland is far worse, that's the nub of tickles questions, I suggest you answer them. So far you have been held to account on a variety of topics on this thread. Now bite the bullet, clear, unambiguous answers. You can do that, you are capable of it, or are you not? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? They didn't win in 2016 Lost the majority and sits with green party in a coalition. In the past they have sat in coalition with the conservative party. Oh and the Scottish health service is struggling under the SNP is not a claim. That's audit Scotland saying it. Dig out the performance of Scotland schools in the international tables. You believe that whatever the problem, independence is the answer. Regardless of the suffering it inflicts. But let's get back to you answering tickles questions..." Oofft now lying lol First off the SNP are the largest party in Scotland they have formed a minority government So yes they did win hahaha none if your pish yoon branches got even close to forming a government in Scotland 2nd no they didnt form a coalition government with the Tories in Scotland thats a lie See this goes to prove you dont know nothing about Scotland worry about England eh lol The Scottish NHS is the best in the UK are you saying Nuffield trust are liars ? Scottish education best in the UK And thanks to Labour schools in Scotland are falling down with their PFI that the tax payer will be paying off for years to come But no no you keep putting your anti Scottish pish here and outting Scotland doon Oh my someone that believes in Scottish indepdence no must shut him up cant have that now | |||
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" So you claim all SNP members andvoters are all ignorant people and thats why Scotland votes SNP since 2007 lmao " Did I make that claim? No I did not, stop lying. I said there's too many ignorant people like you, I did not claim all of them. Stop your lying, you only undermine yourself and your argument when you do. . Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance. Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms. No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit. By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses. As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself. The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland? Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU? What would you chose kinky? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? " So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? They didn't win in 2016 Lost the majority and sits with green party in a coalition. In the past they have sat in coalition with the conservative party. Oh and the Scottish health service is struggling under the SNP is not a claim. That's audit Scotland saying it. Dig out the performance of Scotland schools in the international tables. You believe that whatever the problem, independence is the answer. Regardless of the suffering it inflicts. But let's get back to you answering tickles questions... Oofft now lying lol First off the SNP are the largest party in Scotland they have formed a minority government So yes they did win hahaha none if your pish yoon branches got even close to forming a government in Scotland 2nd no they didnt form a coalition government with the Tories in Scotland thats a lie See this goes to prove you dont know nothing about Scotland worry about England eh lol The Scottish NHS is the best in the UK are you saying Nuffield trust are liars ? Scottish education best in the UK And thanks to Labour schools in Scotland are falling down with their PFI that the tax payer will be paying off for years to come But no no you keep putting your anti Scottish pish here and outting Scotland doon Oh my someone that believes in Scottish indepdence no must shut him up cant have that now " https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-frozen-out-as-snp-buries-hatchet-with-conservatives-to-end-20-year-taboo-1-1427779 You need to ask audit Scotland why they think it's a mess. The rest of your post is angry bluster. But if you are so keen on posting you'll have no issues about answering tickles questions. Or you are unable to. | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum?" What the fuck are you on aboot ? In was in 2011 duh!!!!!! Get facts right | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? They didn't win in 2016 Lost the majority and sits with green party in a coalition. In the past they have sat in coalition with the conservative party. Oh and the Scottish health service is struggling under the SNP is not a claim. That's audit Scotland saying it. Dig out the performance of Scotland schools in the international tables. You believe that whatever the problem, independence is the answer. Regardless of the suffering it inflicts. But let's get back to you answering tickles questions... Oofft now lying lol First off the SNP are the largest party in Scotland they have formed a minority government So yes they did win hahaha none if your pish yoon branches got even close to forming a government in Scotland 2nd no they didnt form a coalition government with the Tories in Scotland thats a lie See this goes to prove you dont know nothing about Scotland worry about England eh lol The Scottish NHS is the best in the UK are you saying Nuffield trust are liars ? Scottish education best in the UK And thanks to Labour schools in Scotland are falling down with their PFI that the tax payer will be paying off for years to come But no no you keep putting your anti Scottish pish here and outting Scotland doon Oh my someone that believes in Scottish indepdence no must shut him up cant have that now https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-frozen-out-as-snp-buries-hatchet-with-conservatives-to-end-20-year-taboo-1-1427779 You need to ask audit Scotland why they think it's a mess. The rest of your post is angry bluster. But if you are so keen on posting you'll have no issues about answering tickles questions. Or you are unable to." I didt read shite | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? They didn't win in 2016 Lost the majority and sits with green party in a coalition. In the past they have sat in coalition with the conservative party. Oh and the Scottish health service is struggling under the SNP is not a claim. That's audit Scotland saying it. Dig out the performance of Scotland schools in the international tables. You believe that whatever the problem, independence is the answer. Regardless of the suffering it inflicts. But let's get back to you answering tickles questions... Oofft now lying lol First off the SNP are the largest party in Scotland they have formed a minority government So yes they did win hahaha none if your pish yoon branches got even close to forming a government in Scotland 2nd no they didnt form a coalition government with the Tories in Scotland thats a lie See this goes to prove you dont know nothing about Scotland worry about England eh lol The Scottish NHS is the best in the UK are you saying Nuffield trust are liars ? Scottish education best in the UK And thanks to Labour schools in Scotland are falling down with their PFI that the tax payer will be paying off for years to come But no no you keep putting your anti Scottish pish here and outting Scotland doon Oh my someone that believes in Scottish indepdence no must shut him up cant have that now https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-frozen-out-as-snp-buries-hatchet-with-conservatives-to-end-20-year-taboo-1-1427779 You need to ask audit Scotland why they think it's a mess. The rest of your post is angry bluster. But if you are so keen on posting you'll have no issues about answering tickles questions. Or you are unable to. I didt read shite " That makes no sense. | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? What the fuck are you on aboot ? In was in 2011 duh!!!!!! Get facts right " You said: " 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence " So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? | |||
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"Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? What the fuck are you on aboot ? In was in 2011 duh!!!!!! Get facts right You said: " 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence " So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? "The SNP put a referendum in their 2011 manifesto people elected them as a majority government lol | |||
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"Ok is it upto the people of Scotland living in Scotland to decide whats best for Scotland ? Nope. Not within current constitutional arrangements.
Who elects politicians? "Well, you and I have had this discussion before. I have said that within the UK, the electorate do, however, you have argued that some members of the Scottish Parliament, including the SNP, are unelected!
Back to the original question though, MPs from across the UK decide what's best for the people of Scotland on some issues at least. Now I know that upsets you, but let's look at the question slightly differently. Is it up to the people of Glasgow to decide what's best for Glasgow? I think that you will say "no" it's best for politicians all over Scotland to decide what's best for Glasgow (again, in some issues at least). So you want exactly the same set up as Westminster, just on a more parochial scale. But please correct me if I'm wrong. | |||
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" "Ok For Fox Sake Why is it people have elected the SNP to be the Scottish government since 2007? Must be doing something right You get told that your comments about "refunds" are nonsense, so you try and concentrate on something else. Diversion anyone? Seriously, you need to step away from the keyboard. NO no i know we dont agree on that and prob wont ever So you made the claim that the SNP are failing Scotland strange as the Scottish people dont agree with you 2007 SNP 2011 SNP 2016 SNP So why is it you think Scotland keep voting SNP to be the government in Scotland ? If they have been elected 3 times, on an independence manifesto, yet there has only been 1 referendum, does that not prove to you that it's NOT the people who decide on if there is a referendum or not, but is instead the politicians? Lmao still sober 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence 2011 they put in their manifesto to have a referendum on independence ie the 2014 one 2016 manifesto was the right to hold a referendum on independence because of brexit and when the final brexit deal is known i know your all shitting bricks i can see it on here byba fucking mile The people elect the politicians duh !!!! And Scotland has a pro indy majority in Holyrood and section 30 order passed like it or not its fact and it was a democratic vote Block it would be unwise as there is fuck all the UK government can do to stop a referendum happening in Scotland no legal power can stop it Yes the have power to refuse to grant a binding referendum but as i keep tell you the UK government think its ok to take the UK out on an advisory referendum so would look dumb as fuck if they refused to see Scotland voted yes in an advisory referendum on independence Best just have a binding referendum where both sides can put their points across or is the no side chicken shit ? So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? What the fuck are you on aboot ? In was in 2011 duh!!!!!! Get facts right You said: " 2007 manfestio didnt say anything on independence " So if the SNP didn't call from an indepence referendum in 2007, I'm gonna guess no other party did either. So how could "the people" have decided they wanted a referendum? " The SNP put a referendum in their 2011 manifesto people elected them as a majority government lol " So "the people" couldn't decide they wanted a referendum in 2007 then. They had to wait until the POLITICIANS decided it was right in 2011. Thanks for confirming that it's the politicians who make the decision, and not the people | |||
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