FabSwingers.com forum: Trump has the guts to do what no other president has

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Trump is about to do, what Obama could only dream off;

US President Donald Trump has told a group of lawmakers not to be so "petrified" of the powerful gun lobby the National Rifle Association (NRA).

In a break from his party's stance on gun control, President Trump urged lawmakers to come up with a comprehensive bill on gun reform.

He suggested expanding background checks for gun buyers and raising the legal age to buy rifles to 21 from 18.

He held the meeting in the wake of a school shooting that left 17 dead.

Mr Trump's change of tack on gun control has taken many lawmakers and commentators by surprise. The New York Times said the president had "stunned lawmakers", while CNN reported that Republicans were "a bit unsettled"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They have great power over you people," the president said of the NRA to his fellow Republicans on Wednesday. "They have less power over me."

"Some of you are petrified of the NRA," he added during the televised bipartisan summit on gun safety.

During the meeting, the president seemed to back:

?an expansion of background checks before people can buy guns

?allowing police to confiscate guns from people thought to be dangerous, without a court order

?raising the minimum age for buying assault rifles from 18 to 21

?arming teachers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lobbyists will make sure what he wants gets watered down in the name of money....erm I mean freedom...

Im not pro arming teachers but anything that slows firearms going into circulation is better than now't at this point.

Kudos if he can get the more sensible ideas through

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lobbyists will make sure what he wants gets watered down in the name of money....erm I mean freedom...

Im not pro arming teachers but anything that slows firearms going into circulation is better than now't at this point.

Kudos if he can get the more sensible ideas through"

indeed, the usa needs a strong president like Trump after the failings of Obama

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That orange bag of shit plans of arming teachers just went to shit today.

An armed teacher in a school in Georgia just had a breakdown down began shooting and barricades himself in a classroom.

I've been thinking maybe we should arm all students because the only thing that can stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good student with a gun..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"That orange bag of shit plans of arming teachers just went to shit today.

An armed teacher in a school in Georgia just had a breakdown down began shooting and barricades himself in a classroom.

I've been thinking maybe we should arm all students because the only thing that can stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good student with a gun..

Bob, that's yesterdays news on another thread, try keeping up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lobbyists will make sure what he wants gets watered down in the name of money....erm I mean freedom...

Im not pro arming teachers but anything that slows firearms going into circulation is better than now't at this point.

Kudos if he can get the more sensible ideas through

indeed, the usa needs a strong president like Trump after the failings of Obama

Not looking to start one of those debates again but look, you can hardly say Obama had massive failing especially in his first term. Dont get me wrong, signifigant failings are on his record but lets look and see what he had to deal with in his first term.

Massive humanitarian crisis of flooding in the Southern states.

Immediate impacts of the financial crisis and US housing bubble.

Weaker stock market than what Trump has had to desl with.

Greater unemployment rates at the start of his term.

People say when youre at rock bottom you can only go up. But I find with nations and individuals its so much harder to drag yourself out of the dirt and back even just onto your knees.

So I think its worth looking at Obama's administration and saying "I there was a more suitable leader at the time, they would have been elected."

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

A sop to his major financial backers, the National Rifle Association.

Former presidents have had most of their planned changes prevented mostly by the Republican party, who know which way their bread has been buttered. At least Obama had proposed more meaningful improvements, compared to this pathetic sop. He really is a man of the people, compared to this specimen.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A sop to his major financial backers, the National Rifle Association.

in your opinion

"L"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

trumps guts are just the kind that enable him to continuously shit all over normal, decent, upstanding folk like some dribbling derranged orange face turd burger

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"trumps guts are just the kind that enable him to continuously shit all over normal, decent, upstanding folk like some dribbling derranged orange face turd burger"

perhaps/ perhaps not

but I suspect he doesn't run and hide, I wonder who is hiding just now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""They have great power over you people," the president said of the NRA to his fellow Republicans on Wednesday. "They have less power over me."

"Some of you are petrified of the NRA," he added during the televised bipartisan summit on gun safety.

During the meeting, the president seemed to back:

?an expansion of background checks before people can buy guns

?allowing police to confiscate guns from people thought to be dangerous, without a court order

?raising the minimum age for buying assault rifles from 18 to 21

?arming teachers

The guy in las vagas was well over 21 !!!

Had a shit load of guns and no previous convictions !!!!

How many did he kill ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he was the fuck nugget who ran away from his tour in nam ... yeah what a hero

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"he was the fuck nugget who ran away from his tour in nam ... yeah what a hero "

many dodged Vietnam

many dodged WW2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

trump shits his pants regularly in public ... proven

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"he was the fuck nugget who ran away from his tour in nam ... yeah what a hero "

Assume you think the same about Muhammad Ali then.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

During the meeting, the president seemed to back:

?an expansion of background checks before people can buy guns"

about time he came round... its only a 97-3 issue with the general public.... heck its a 97-3 issue with NRA members!.... its only the high brass and donors putting pressure on republicans ....

"?allowing police to confiscate guns from people thought to be dangerous, without a court order"

nope... not quite.... what he ACTUALLY proposed was that instead of due process taking place where the courts/states have to prove someone has a mental issue before taking away the guns, because its time consuming and expensive.... he said the states should said take away the guns and the person should then have to prove they don't have a disqualifying factor/s

"?raising the minimum age for buying assault rifles from 18 to 21"

florida has an insane law where you had to be 21 to own a handgun.... but you could be 18 to own an assualt rifle....

anyway private business may end up in effect doing this for him.... Dicks sporting goods, and Walmart have both said they will raise the age that any of their customers will be able to by assault rifles from 18 to 21........

"?arming teachers"

1) most teachers.... and most parents as well, actually are against this idea....

2) some states already allow this... it has show not to really make a difference.... in fact there was a case in oregon where the shoter shot the gun carrying security officer first before he shot up others.....

3) you didn't hear about the georgia teach who shot up the kids in class a day or so ago then?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Trump is about to do, what Obama could only dream off;

Obama actually did try to do something after sandy hook including the same expanded background checks proposal... and it was defeated in a republican controlled senate......

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"he was the fuck nugget who ran away from his tour in nam ... yeah what a hero

Assume you think the same about Muhammad Ali then. "

or indeed John Wayne

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"he was the fuck nugget who ran away from his tour in nam ... yeah what a hero "

Yep trump hasn't seen his balls for a very long time.Cowardly piece of Piss that he is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

trump wasn't scentenced to 5 years gaol for consientious objection and didn't have his licence to conduct his legitimate business taken away from him because of his skin colour ... he just shat his pants and bummed out on serving his country to be fair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"trump wasn't scentenced to 5 years gaol for consientious objection and didn't have his licence to conduct his legitimate business taken away from him because of his skin colour ... he just shat his pants and bummed out on serving his country to be fair"

... trump is what's known by decent folk as a snivelling shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I read the comment about Muhammad Ali and just fucking laughed at the ignorance..Piss poor response at best and lacking any context.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To have Muhammad Ali mentioned as a way of trying to cover for trump is beyond parody..One man is an icon the other a chancer who will back stab everyone to cover for his own failings...Trump is not really fit for any job that requires any mental agility and stamina

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"A sop to his major financial backers, the National Rifle Association.

in your opinion

"L""

It's worth looking up voting records, including of Democrats who have voted against the party's preferred position.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trump is about to do, what Obama could only dream off;

US President Donald Trump has told a group of lawmakers not to be so "petrified" of the powerful gun lobby the National Rifle Association (NRA).

In a break from his party's stance on gun control, President Trump urged lawmakers to come up with a comprehensive bill on gun reform.

He suggested expanding background checks for gun buyers and raising the legal age to buy rifles to 21 from 18.

He held the meeting in the wake of a school shooting that left 17 dead.

Doesn't take much to stun American lawmakers then does it.

I honestly thought Trump had actually decided on something meaningful going by the thread title.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Bless you for your hero worship.

You are lauding Trump for backing legislation that is pure virtue signalling to try to defuse the huge change in public opinion.

The NRA and its backers/purchased legislators are scared for the first time. This is the minimum they think that they can get away with.

You know that of course. Why pretend otherwise? Oh yes, it's because you like attention

It's quite fun watching though, because you always just start attacking people personally in the end because you inevitably lose the argument.

How long this time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As the saying goes !

You don't know till you try ?

Just Ban All Guns except for the Armed Forces for a year and see if the death toll goes Down !

Simples !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it looks like the the u-turn that was predicted has come and he's back-peddled on his earlier announcement after the NRA reminded him that he's in their pocket over lunch at the whitehouse ..... then just this minute there's breaking news of another apparent gun loving twat who has gone postal in a michigan university with two people hit

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"That orange bag of shit plans of arming teachers just went to shit today.

An armed teacher in a school in Georgia just had a breakdown down began shooting and barricades himself in a classroom.

I've been thinking maybe we should arm all students because the only thing that can stop a bad teacher with a gun is a good student with a gun..

Bob, that's yesterdays news on another thread, try keeping up

Which you didn't respond to because...it doesn't suit your opinion?

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