FabSwingers.com forum: The yoon brigade talk Scotland doon II

By *eefyBanger OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Just thought I'd start another thread as I'd like to touch on a point the OP made in his last message before the thread was closed for being too long

You say there's nothing good to come out of Westminster and say there's nothing good about Brexit

Do you realise that when you voted YES in the 2014 Indy referendum you also voted to leave the EU..... let that sink in

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Just thought I'd start another thread as I'd like to touch on a point the OP made in his last message before the thread was closed for being too long

You say there's nothing good to come out of Westminster and say there's nothing good about Brexit

Do you realise that when you voted YES in the 2014 Indy referendum you also voted to leave the EU..... let that sink in "

Ok since you called me out i will reply

So what is positive about brexit , UK debt , nuclear weapons and Tory cuts ? I didnt see an answer to those i wonder why maybe because they aint positive correct ?

Also did it escape your memory if a Yes vote was returned in the 2014 independence referendum there would have been 2 years of talks with the UK and on the issue of EU membership duh!!!!!!! let that sink in

So question for you how do you know how those talks would have went eh ?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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P.S

The here and now the yoons dont wanna talk about it the fact the Eu have been sending messages out their that an independent Scotland would be most welcome in the EU as member state and could be fast tracked in the EU should Scotland choose to become independent

Yoons wanna keep going back to the past to dig up the very think they claim is in the past and should be respected lmao

I dare anyone to claim the EU have not not once said an independent Scotland would be fast tracked or an independent Scotland would be welcome in the EU

must bloody sting that

Also did yoons have memory loss as am quite sure it was the yoons that claimed by voting no to independence was the only way to keep their EU citizenship fucking lies!!!

Yet believe it or no yoons wanna sweep that shit under the carpet like they didnt say that about the EU

So really a no vote didnt keep the EU membership well done your no vote fucked your EU citizenship that what the vote got you well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noooo OP. Why the fuck is anyone still debating with this zealous idiot? You will never ever ever change his mind on anything. All you do is give him more opportunities to spout his nationalist drivel. So cringey, even other nationalists wish he would shut the fuck up for once lol

#boycottkinkysshitthreads

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Noooo OP. Why the fuck is anyone still debating with this zealous idiot? You will never ever ever change his mind on anything. All you do is give him more opportunities to spout his nationalist drivel. So cringey, even other nationalists wish he would shut the fuck up for once lol

#boycottkinkysshitthreads "

The threads are hilarious though!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

#boycottkinkysshitthreads

The threads are hilarious though!

True. But when you are living in Scotland surrounded by these clowns its not so much fun

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

#boycottkinkysshitthreads

The threads are hilarious though!

True. But when you are living in Scotland surrounded by these clowns its not so much fun

I can imagine.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

For some reason, I can only see a Nationalist Rab C Nesbitt in my mind!

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Kinky is under the impression that Scotland could have become an independent state in under 18 months (Salmonds time table), AND join the EU despite not being able to comply with the criteria required for membership.

Negotiations with the EU EU could not start before it is an fully functioning independent country not whilst still in the UK.

Its worth noting that the last new member, Croatia, took ten years from application to accession.

Heavens sake people, don't believe a word that charlatan kinky says.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Kinky is under the impression that Scotland could have become an independent state in under 18 months (Salmonds time table), AND join the EU despite not being able to comply with the criteria required for membership.

Negotiations with the EU EU could not start before it is an fully functioning independent country not whilst still in the UK.

Its worth noting that the last new member, Croatia, took ten years from application to accession.

Heavens sake people, don't believe a word that charlatan kinky says. "

By fastracked, I assume he means 6 years instead of 10, as most experts say.

That would leave Scotland alone in the world for 4 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last I looked Scotland could actually join the EU as an independant country as early as 2024to 2026

So UK leaves 2019. Scotland has a referendum votes to leave the Uk transition period say 2 years takes us to 2021/2 then anywhere between 2 to 4 years to join the EU if Scotland is lucky and meets all the criteria.

Minimum of 4 or 5 years on their own !!!!

Personally I would hate for Scotland to break away for no other reason that I believe in the UK as a whole and it works.

Not because as one person thinks we are shite feart of losing their money

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Oh the yoons are panicking lol

Now it's don't believe a word I am saying

Ok then try this.....

Are yoons going to deny the EU have never once said that an independent Scotland would be more than welcome in the EU and that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ?

What's more fucking daft

Back in 2014 yoons said the only way to keep your EU citizenship would be to vote no to Independence

Now we can all damn well say that was a lie as a no vote has threaten their EU citizenship well done yoons you screws yourself lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh the yoons are panicking lol

Now it's don't believe a word I am saying

Ok then try this.....

Are yoons going to deny the EU have never once said that an independent Scotland would be more than welcome in the EU and that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ?

What's more fucking daft

Back in 2014 yoons said the only way to keep your EU citizenship would be to vote no to Independence

Now we can all damn well say that was a lie as a no vote has threaten their EU citizenship well done yoons you screws yourself lmao

This comment / statement about Scotland being fast tracked into joining the EU, was this by just 1 person or a few people or was it a unanimous signed declaration from every EU member state backing that Scotland would be fast tracked ??

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

Negotiations with the EU EU could not start before it is an fully functioning independent country not whilst still in the UK.

Its worth noting that the last new member, Croatia, took ten years from application to accession.

Heavens sake people, don't believe a word that charlatan kinky says.

By fastracked, I assume he means 6 years instead of 10, as most experts say.

That would leave Scotland alone in the world for 4 years."

The problem comes in the shape of funding, let's follow the argument that there are 4 years out of the UK and out of the EU, if a deficit is built up in that time, that could prevent joining the EU.

And if we think leaving the EU is a pigs breakfast, ungluing the UK will be twenty times worse.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Oh the yoons are panicking lol

Now it's don't believe a word I am saying

Ok then try this.....

Are yoons going to deny the EU have never once said that an independent Scotland would be more than welcome in the EU and that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ?

What's more fucking daft

Back in 2014 yoons said the only way to keep your EU citizenship would be to vote no to Independence

Now we can all damn well say that was a lie as a no vote has threaten their EU citizenship well done yoons you screws yourself lmao

First off are you denying this has been said ?

And second see instead of asking me maybe try researching it you are never learn unless you look for yourself

Maybe this is why the UK is fucked up people are so lazy now a days to actually go look for themselves

Come back to me when you have looked and then answer my question

Funny how people are willing to believe what the Tories tell you and no no those evil people in the EU must be telling lies when there has been people willing to come out and say Scotland can be fast tracked

Now i know what yoons will try and do and claim its only some but consider this no one knows the final brexit deal but the closer it gets and we know the deal and the Scottish government decide if they will hand in the section 30 order and then there is a new independence referendum then am sure you will hear more and more from the EU side on Scotland

Yoons have ants in the pants itching away and panicking lol

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Negotiations with the EU EU could not start before it is an fully functioning independent country not whilst still in the UK.

Its worth noting that the last new member, Croatia, took ten years from application to accession.

Heavens sake people, don't believe a word that charlatan kinky says.

By fastracked, I assume he means 6 years instead of 10, as most experts say.

That would leave Scotland alone in the world for 4 years.

The problem comes in the shape of funding, let's follow the argument that there are 4 years out of the UK and out of the EU, if a deficit is built up in that time, that could prevent joining the EU.

And if we think leaving the EU is a pigs breakfast, ungluing the UK will be twenty times worse."

God your shite feart of losing Scotland eh lol

Would that not be upto the Scottish people to decide if its " 20 times as worse "?

Am sure you will have people believe you doesnt bother me but its like your trying to dictate terms to Scotland when the Scottish people have the right to actually decide for themselves what is better for Scotland

England sadly thought leaving the EU was best for England but nae chance is England or Wales gonna drag Scotland out and create damage to Scotlands economy

Now i know your going to claim but Scotland would be even more worse off out the UK fine your opinion and am sure you have people ready to believe you but thing is for the people of Scotland to decide what is best for Scotland

The days of Scotland being told shut up get back in the box and we decide for you are long gone Scotland has found its voice and yoons dont like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like to know where it has been said Scotland would be fast tracked into the EU

Show me the link please all my searches indicate at least 4 to 6 years should Scotland gain independence, and that is if Scotland achieves the criteria needed.

So please provide your evidence

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further."

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"I would like to know where it has been said Scotland would be fast tracked into the EU

Show me the link please all my searches indicate at least 4 to 6 years should Scotland gain independence, and that is if Scotland achieves the criteria needed.

So please provide your evidence "

Jesus another one lol

Listen i aint here to do your homework you go look for yourself

I like i said maybe this is why the UK is so fucked that people have become so lazy asking others to research for them do it yourself its not hard

Now cone back to me when your ready to answer this please

Has to the EU side ever once said an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU true or false ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

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You never listen for fact and logic if it doesn't fit your agenda.

So try again, where did I imply you we're lying ? , my post is only 2 or 3 or 4 posts above this, should be the easiest thing to quote me on and prove you are right and I am wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Show me the link please all my searches indicate at least 4 to 6 years should Scotland gain independence, and that is if Scotland achieves the criteria needed.

So please provide your evidence

Jesus another one lol

Listen i aint here to do your homework you go look for yourself

I like i said maybe this is why the UK is so fucked that people have become so lazy asking others to research for them do it yourself its not hard

Now cone back to me when your ready to answer this please

Has to the EU side ever once said an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU true or false ? "

Normal people will simply post a link as a sorce to back up their claims kinky and not rely on others to prove YOU right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

Woulda, shoulda, coulda,

I agree this was said by Jacqueline Minor, but to be honest no factual statement saying Scotland will definitely be fast tracked.

Lets just wait and see the outcome brexit needs to happen first then Scotland needs to vote on a referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woulda, shoulda, coulda,

I agree this was said by Jacqueline Minor, but to be honest no factual statement saying Scotland will definitely be fast tracked.

Lets just wait and see the outcome brexit needs to happen first then Scotland needs to vote on a referendum.

Yes, I know a couple of people have saidin their opinion Scotland might be able to be fast tracked but that's all it's been, a small handful if that, and does their word carry any weight what so ever... no... not really lol

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!"

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Lol ironic you use that shite about Brussels telling an independent Scotland what to do but no no its fine for Westminster to dictate what Scotland can have in powers and what money Scotland can have in a set budget. You didnt think that one through

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Fuck me you dont even see it the UK government have powers to control immigration right now but dont do fuck all with it and blame it all on the EU lol

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

Woulda, shoulda, coulda,

I agree this was said by Jacqueline Minor, but to be honest no factual statement saying Scotland will definitely be fast tracked.

Lets just wait and see the outcome brexit needs to happen first then Scotland needs to vote on a referendum.

Thank you so there you go the EU side have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU so i aint lying correct ?

Yeah lets wait and see what the final brexit deal is then Scotland can decide

But again listen to this take it in Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum that it can use before the UK exits the EU blocking it would be unwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you so there you go the EU side have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU so i aint lying correct ?

Totally incorrect as normal kinky, it's like me saying as a member of Fab Swingers that you could have gold membership for free, I'm part of Fab Swingers as a member, but I am not Fab Swingers... or is that a little too complicated for you to understand ?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Woulda, shoulda, coulda,

I agree this was said by Jacqueline Minor, but to be honest no factual statement saying Scotland will definitely be fast tracked.

Lets just wait and see the outcome brexit needs to happen first then Scotland needs to vote on a referendum.

Again thank you for saying there has bern some in the EU that have come out and said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

So lets wait and see what the final brexit deal is and then like i have said if Scotland chooses to hand over the section 30 order am sure the EU will be even more vocal on Scottish independence and what will happen if Scotland votes for independence and Scotland being fast tracked into the EU

Tell me in your opinion is it not shocking to tell people in 2014 the only way to keep your EU citizenship is to vote no to independence then to see those that voted no screwed over and they will now lose their EU citizenship for something Scotland didnt vote for to leave ?

Should Scotland get no say in this ? You wana believe in the UK fair enough but dont claim its fair to Scotland as its not and you know it deep down

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications."

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

Sweden is a EU member state and guess what they joined in the 90's also guess what they were never ever forced to adopt the Euro and they still dont use the Euro all these years later bang goes that theory debunked! Lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Fuck me you dont even see it the UK government have powers to control immigration right now but dont do fuck all with it and blame it all on the EU lol"
What currency would an independent Scotland use. Sterling isn't transferable as part of the severance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fully agree, I've said this to you a few times that yes I think Scotland should have another ref over leaving or staying in the UK because one of the biggest arguments that a no vote was to stay in the EU has now become a false promise to Scotland.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Fuck me you dont even see it the UK government have powers to control immigration right now but dont do fuck all with it and blame it all on the EU lol What currency would an independent Scotland use. Sterling isn't transferable as part of the severance. "

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

You really are an idiot kinky, do you not read anything propperly, I'll quote this bit again just for you...

By the way, this applies to all new states applications. "

then you come out with this moronic crap...

Lmao yourself, you are moronic to a spectacular degree.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

You really are an idiot kinky, do you not read anything propperly, I'll quote this bit again just for you...

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

then you come out with this moronic crap...

Lmao yourself, you are moronic to a spectacular degree.

And the name calling comes out again

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

After 2020 all new eu countries will have to use the euro.

Do your homework Kinky!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

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In 2014 Westminster said no to Scotland using sterling if Ref vote was yes which it wasn't of course. So again I put it to you why would that change?. Therfore what currency would an independent Scotland use Kinky? ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

No Great Britain does not own "The Pound" GB "own's "Pound Sterling" which is controlled by The Bank Of England.

Scotland could make up any new Pound which would have to be backed by a scottish central bank like the Bank of England does for Pound Sterling or they would have to create their own bank system or adopt a foreign currency

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

You really are an idiot kinky, do you not read anything propperly, I'll quote this bit again just for you...

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

then you come out with this moronic crap...

Lmao yourself, you are moronic to a spectacular degree.

And the name calling comes out again "

If you don't act moronic then I wouldn't need to state the fact.

You don't listen / read what people have said, you twist things and lie and make up bull shit then blame others for saying it when they have not.

You are unable to have a decent debate about hardly anything for more than 5 minutes without slagging off Unionists / England and lying about what's been posted a few posts above you.

If you want to think I'm "name calling" then fine, I am not, In my view I am stating bloody fact, unlike your fiction.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

No Great Britain does not own "The Pound" GB "own's "Pound Sterling" which is controlled by The Bank Of England.

Maybe just use the euro from the off if they are allowed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

No Great Britain does not own "The Pound" GB "own's "Pound Sterling" which is controlled by The Bank Of England.

Maybe just use the euro from the off if they are allowed? "

I think it would be a must to use the Euro if Scotland was to join the EU.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

You really are an idiot kinky, do you not read anything propperly, I'll quote this bit again just for you...

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

then you come out with this moronic crap...

Lmao yourself, you are moronic to a spectacular degree.

And the name calling comes out again

If you don't act moronic then I wouldn't need to state the fact.

You don't listen / read what people have said, you twist things and lie and make up bull shit then blame others for saying it when they have not.

You are unable to have a decent debate about hardly anything for more than 5 minutes without slagging off Unionists / England and lying about what's been posted a few posts above you.

If you want to think I'm "name calling" then fine, I am not, In my view I am stating bloody fact, unlike your fiction."

Lol once you start the personal name calling you lose

Notice how i have never once on here called anyone personally any names why cause its a fucking swinging site its about having fun yes i know their is people on here that defend the Uk fair enough but i wont sink that low to acutally abuse people on by name calling its low

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

No Great Britain does not own "The Pound" GB "own's "Pound Sterling" which is controlled by The Bank Of England.

Maybe just use the euro from the off if they are allowed?

I think it would be a must to use the Euro if Scotland was to join the EU."
Yes EU want control. Don't want another Brexit. More that ties the EU together the better is the outlook

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over a year ago

"Just thought I'd start another thread as I'd like to touch on a point the OP made in his last message before the thread was closed for being too long

You say there's nothing good to come out of Westminster and say there's nothing good about Brexit

Do you realise that when you voted YES in the 2014 Indy referendum you also voted to leave the EU..... let that sink in

Ok since you called me out i will reply

So what is positive about brexit , UK debt , nuclear weapons and Tory cuts ? I didnt see an answer to those i wonder why maybe because they aint positive correct ?

So question for you how do you know how those talks would have went eh ? "

How do you know how those talks would have gone as you would have left the UK which was the member of the eu so would have been out of both.

As the UK can not do trade deals until out of the EU I can't foresee the eu nogotiation with Scotland on entry.

We would be back of the Q.

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over a year ago

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/euro-area/enlargement-euro-area/who-can-join-and-when_en

Educate yourself kinky, have a read of this and see if you think that afterwards.

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

Ok i will use Sweden to get to the point

You really are an idiot kinky, do you not read anything propperly, I'll quote this bit again just for you...

By the way, this applies to all new states applications.

then you come out with this moronic crap...

Lmao yourself, you are moronic to a spectacular degree.

And the name calling comes out again

If you don't act moronic then I wouldn't need to state the fact.

You don't listen / read what people have said, you twist things and lie and make up bull shit then blame others for saying it when they have not.

You are unable to have a decent debate about hardly anything for more than 5 minutes without slagging off Unionists / England and lying about what's been posted a few posts above you.

If you want to think I'm "name calling" then fine, I am not, In my view I am stating bloody fact, unlike your fiction.

Lol once you start the personal name calling you lose

Better than wrapping up all your hatred and lies with the constant Lmao's lol's at the end of your posts then , Lmao, lol,

, ... what ev's trev's .... pmsl ... forgot that one

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

In 2014 Westminster said no to Scotland using sterling if Ref vote was yes which it wasn't of course. So again I put it to you why would that change?. Therfore what currency would an independent Scotland use Kinky? ??"

There we have it remember the comment above about "Brussels would dictate what an independent Scotland can do in the EU"

Then we have a comment claiming "Westminster said no to Scotland using sterling "

An independent Scotland will be able to decide what currency it wants duh!!! Why the fuck do you think people want to end Westminster rule lol

Equal partnership my arse more like UK dictatorship

Ironic eh lmao

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over a year ago

"P.S

Yoons wanna keep going back to the past to dig up the very think they claim is in the past and should be respected lmao

I dare anyone to claim the EU have not not once said an independent Scotland would be fast tracked or an independent Scotland would be welcome in the EU

must bloody sting that

Also did yoons have memory loss as am quite sure it was the yoons that claimed by voting no to independence was the only way to keep their EU citizenship fucking lies!!!

Yet believe it or no yoons wanna sweep that shit under the carpet like they didnt say that about the EU

So really a no vote didnt keep the EU membership well done your no vote fucked your EU citizenship that what the vote got you well done "

Are you quoting from Alex s almonds letter he lied about saying Scotland would go straight into the eu.

Baring in mind you have to satisfy all the other countries that you are for to join.

I cannot see Spain..Italy...France or Belgium opening Scotland with open arms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

#boycottkinkysshitthreads

The threads are hilarious though!

True. But when you are living in Scotland surrounded by these clowns its not so much fun

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over a year ago

An independent Scotland will be able to decide what currency it wants duh!!!

Ironic eh lmao "

How, really.... how ..... it's not like going intoa shop and choosing what milk to buy... ohhhh we'll have .... Indian Rupee's for our national currency... ohh wait... no, we'll have the American Dollar instead.... ohh no... we'll just use ... ummmmm

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over a year ago

"Oh the yoons are panicking lol

Now it's don't believe a word I am saying

Ok then try this.....

Are yoons going to deny the EU have never once said that an independent Scotland would be more than welcome in the EU and that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ?

What's more fucking daft

Back in 2014 yoons said the only way to keep your EU citizenship would be to vote no to Independence

Now we can all damn well say that was a lie as a no vote has threaten their EU citizenship well done yoons you screws yourself lmao

As usual you are focusing on the narrow narrative.

Scotland would only be able to join after a qualified period.

as some one has already stated after setting up a currency and reducing Scotland's deficit.

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over a year ago

An independent Scotland will be able to decide what currency it wants duh!!!

Ironic eh lmao

If Scotland ever goes Indy I want the dong from Vietnam

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over a year ago

An independent Scotland will be able to decide what currency it wants duh!!!

Ironic eh lmao

If Scotland ever goes Indy I want the dong from Vietnam

Just tell kinky to tell Scotland and it will be so.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Brw here is something no yoon seems to wanna discuss i can take a guess why hehehehehe

Ok lets say Scotland has a independence referendum and votes YES

Now lets just have a laugh say yoons are right and it takes a while fir Scotland to join the EU

Who is to say an independent Scotland adopt a system like say Norway who are not in the EU but are in the single market

Thats Scotlands red line you have heard the Scottish government even say they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is Scotland must have full membership of the single market weither its for the whole of the UK or Scotland gets its own deal to remain in the single market if NI get a deal to stay in the single market Scotland then get the same deal do it not and well Scotland has every damn right to use the mandate to have an independence referendum

You seehow many to Tories have fucked the UK ? Bet you all wishing now you went with the SNP idea of a quadruple lock?

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over a year ago

"Brw here is something no yoon seems to wanna discuss i can take a guess why hehehehehe

Ok lets say Scotland has a independence referendum and votes YES

Now lets just have a laugh say yoons are right and it takes a while fir Scotland to join the EU

Who is to say an independent Scotland adopt a system like say Norway who are not in the EU but are in the single market

You seehow many to Tories have fucked the UK ? Bet you all wishing now you went with the SNP idea of a quadruple lock?"

If that's what Scotland wanted and the EU agreed then go for it.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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It's just unbelievable in how uneducated some people are.

Kinky, do you not understand what an independent country is? You leave the UK, then you are on your own.

You may want to join the EU. Provided you meet the entry criteria, and the entry stipulations, then they may have you. Same goes for NATO. They both have to accept you, you don't get to make demands on them.

After 2020, ALL new members into the EU HAVE to move to Euro convergence. The UK had an opt out clause. Have you not worked out yet, that that opt out clause will not apply to you?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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"Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Scotland is the second highest recipient of per head capita spending, second only to Northern Ireland.

Average for Scotland is £10651, compared to where I am at £8200.

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over a year ago

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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"Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Scotland is the second highest recipient of per head capita spending, second only to Northern Ireland.

Average for Scotland is £10651, compared to where I am at £8200.

Just answer the questions please i didnt say anything about NI "

Do you not understand anything?

If you don't like the answers, don't ask the questions!!

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Scotland is the second highest recipient of per head capita spending, second only to Northern Ireland.

Average for Scotland is £10651, compared to where I am at £8200."

Ok so your saying Scotland gets more per head than England does ? And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Then why oh why do you wanna keep Scottish people in the UK then if we are such a drain on England ?

You know it that Westminster needs Scottish money of tax and revenue and the oil which wkuld be in Scottish waters and tourism i doubt after brexit people outside the UK with think Wngland will be a welcoming country

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Scotland is the second highest recipient of per head capita spending, second only to Northern Ireland.

Average for Scotland is £10651, compared to where I am at £8200.

Ok so your saying Scotland gets more per head than England does ? And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Then why oh why do you wanna keep Scottish people in the UK then if we are such a drain on England ?

The other day you said you never had any tourism.

The only reason the Americas go there is to see the royalty bits.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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Per head capita spending for last year:-

Northern Ireland. 21% above UK average

Scotland. 16% above UK average.

Wales. 10% above UK average.

So yes, Barnett is good for the devolved regions. But then London and the SE subsidises my region. That's how economics works.

How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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Love seeing the people that try say awww Scotland gets more money per head than England does then say no we still wanna keep you in the UK

Why though ? It would save you a shit ton of money if it were true and that money could go to local services and the English NHS

Unless Scotland is wealthy and Westminstwr knows it needs Scotlands money if Scotland wave goodbye then that money that Scotland get through tax and revenue wont go to the Uk treasury anymore

And you cant seen to lose all money that reveune would being in from the likes of food , whisky , fish , tourism ,soft drinks , spring water , gin that gets made all in Scotland

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"Love seeing the people that try say awww Scotland gets more money per head than England does then say no we still wanna keep you in the UK

Why though ? It would save you a shit ton of money if it were true and that money could go to local services and the English NHS

Unless Scotland is wealthy and Westminstwr knows it needs Scotlands money if Scotland wave goodbye then that money that Scotland get through tax and revenue wont go to the Uk treasury anymore

And you cant seen to lose all money that reveune would being in from the likes of food , whisky , fish , tourism ,soft drinks , spring water , gin that gets made all in Scotland "

I don't hear you complain about Scotland getting a share of the sixty billion in tax that is taken from the city of London !!!

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"Lets really have some fun now lmao

So how many of you believe that under Barnett Scottish people get more per head than English people ?

And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Scotland is the second highest recipient of per head capita spending, second only to Northern Ireland.

Average for Scotland is £10651, compared to where I am at £8200.

Ok so your saying Scotland gets more per head than England does ? And that England subsidies Scotland ?

Then why oh why do you wanna keep Scottish people in the UK then if we are such a drain on England ?

The other day you said you never had any tourism.

The only reason the Americas go there is to see the royalty bits."

ind me that quote please where i said Scotland has not got any tourism ? Am shocked you dont know about alittle thing called the Edinburgh Fringe do Ferries not come to Greenock and drop alot of tourists off and they go visit the fringe eh ? I just imagined that now did i ? Hehe

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

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First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

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How many MEP's would an independent Scotland have in the european parliament?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ? "

You said that the EU will do a fast track.

It's now "could be" according to you.

So let's be clear no one from the EU has said Scotland will be fast tracked.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?""

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?"

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ?

You said that the EU will do a fast track.

It's now "could be" according to you.

So let's be clear no one from the EU has said Scotland will be fast tracked.

Wow so your claiming those above are now telling porkies lol good one

Like i said their has been some within the EU that better for you that have sais Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Did it even cross your mind An independent Scotland could even adopt a system like Norway that is out of the EU but could be in the single market

You know very thing that Corbyn cant register in his heed that you can actually be iut if the EU and in the single market lol

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?"

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ?

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First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ? "

Is that the people saint Nicola was pictured with in the Sunday mail ???

Just to give our viewers south of the border some insite to the picture.

Nicola sturgeon triumphantly announced a meeting of important EU officials.

It turned out they were mostly Honorary Council positions.

One guy was from paisely and was honered because as part of the tartan army made a huge charity donation to an orphanage.

So there was saint Nicola sitting beside a rat catcher

Yes a rat catcher from paisely

as she declared it a high powered conference

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over a year ago

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Fuck me you dont even see it the UK government have powers to control immigration right now but dont do fuck all with it and blame it all on the EU lol"

Yes as Hungary and Poland are constantly at war with the eu.

Poland has some of its rights suspended because it has not complied with eu regulation.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ? "

No country is too poor ever to be independent.

The practicalities of independence are a different matter.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ?

No country is too poor ever to be independent.

The practicalities of independence are a different matter.

Ok so is Scotland wealthy ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ?

No country is too poor ever to be independent.

The practicalities of independence are a different matter.

Ok so is Scotland wealthy ?"

Define what a wealthy country is.

Compared to Botswana Scotland is loaded compared with Switzerland not so much !!

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over a year ago

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ? "

But those "some people" mean nothing at all.

You we're asked when you stated that the EU has said Scotland can be fast tracked, it wasn't said by the EU, it was said by someone working within the EU framework, 2 totally different things... like I pointed out earlier yet you choose to ignore that little nugget of fact.

The 27 remaining States of the EU have not... NOT said Scotland can be fast tracked.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Why don't you tell us how wealthy Scotland is?

with the tourism, fringe and exports etc..

should be simple enough from you to back up your claims, then the other possibilities and costs could be factored in..

and no i wont google it for whatever spurious reason you choose to hide your 'truth' behind..

your claims, you back it up ..

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

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"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ?

No country is too poor ever to be independent.

The practicalities of independence are a different matter.

Ok so is Scotland wealthy ?

Define what a wealthy country is.

Compared to Botswana Scotland is loaded compared with Switzerland not so much !!"

Try just answering my question please

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If the other 27 member states had signed a letter agreeing that Scotland can be fast tracked then that would be true.... but they have not.

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over a year ago

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

We can use any currency in the world we choose.

What we won't get by using another county's currency is the financial levers you would have with your own currency.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"If the other 27 member states had signed a letter agreeing that Scotland can be fast tracked then that would be true.... but they have not."

Oh for fuck sake lol

Again yes some of the EU have again came out saying Scotland being fast tracked into the EU

Well all dont know the final brexit deal yet and when Scotland have an independence then am sure you will hear the EU be more and more vocal on Scotland

Its like you all have ants in your pants worried much ? Lmao

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ?

You said that the EU will do a fast track.

It's now "could be" according to you.

So let's be clear no one from the EU has said Scotland will be fast tracked.

Wow so your claiming those above are now telling porkies lol good one

Like i said their has been some within the EU that better for you that have sais Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Did it even cross your mind An independent Scotland could even adopt a system like Norway that is out of the EU but could be in the single market

You know very thing that Corbyn cant register in his heed that you can actually be iut if the EU and in the single market lol "

And here we go again, the facts don't fit your stance so you change tack

Please provide a direct quote from an EU commissioner saying Scotland would be fast tracked, would be considered for fast tracking etc?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?"

61% of Scotland's trade is with the rest of the UK.

An independent Scotland would need to negotiate a trade deal with the UK to do any business.

I don't think an independent Scotland will be top of the UK's list for trade deals though!!

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"Well if Scotland did get fast tracked into the EU say 5 years that would mean they were independent for only 5 years! Lol

Good luck with the Euro, direct Brussels taxation plus whatever else they tell you what to do!

This is shocking educate yourself no country is forced into using the Euro tut tut

Also do you hear the independent countries smaller than Scotland that a EU member complain about Brussels dictating terms to what their countries can do ?

Ok first off Scotland could use the pound correct ? Like it or not Mersey the UK do NOT own the pound

We can use any currency in the world we choose.

What we won't get by using another county's currency is the financial levers you would have with your own currency."

Oh you really arent good at this you walked right into this

So Scotland being in the UK right now does it have all the levers needed to do things better than what the UK government are doing right now ?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"If the other 27 member states had signed a letter agreeing that Scotland can be fast tracked then that would be true.... but they have not.

Oh for fuck sake lol

Again yes some of the EU have again came out saying Scotland being fast tracked into the EU

Well all dont know the final brexit deal yet and when Scotland have an independence then am sure you will hear the EU be more and more vocal on Scotland

Its like you all have ants in your pants worried much ? Lmao"

Spain have said they will veto an independent Scotland joining the EU!

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ?

You said that the EU will do a fast track.

It's now "could be" according to you.

So let's be clear no one from the EU has said Scotland will be fast tracked.

Wow so your claiming those above are now telling porkies lol good one

Like i said their has been some within the EU that better for you that have sais Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Did it even cross your mind An independent Scotland could even adopt a system like Norway that is out of the EU but could be in the single market

You know very thing that Corbyn cant register in his heed that you can actually be iut if the EU and in the single market lol

And here we go again, the facts don't fit your stance so you change tack

Please provide a direct quote from an EU commissioner saying Scotland would be fast tracked, would be considered for fast tracking etc?

Look not being rude do it yourself stop being lazy you have access to the big world wide web use it lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"I ask again "How would an independent Scotland work without Barnett?"

Fucking hell lol

Is this the Scotland is far too fucking poor piss again to ever be independent

Oh my wee need help to keep our wee fucking poor third world country going lmao

Scotland people pay tax and will in an independent country

And guess what Scotland has food ,whisky , gin , spring water , fish , tourism , soft drinks and in Scottish waters which if you go look at the map is alot of water we have oil

And you can keep your nuclear weapon saves money getting rid of that shite what £200 billion on a useless weapon designed to fucking KILL people

We also have the Edinburgh fringe that goes on for the most of August alot of revenue from that

Do you believe Scotland is poor and not wealthy ?

And your revenue take will be enough to maintain your £10651 per head capita spend?

As well as your newly inherited costs ?

Yes

So if what i gather you believe Scotland is too poor to ever be independent then ?

No country is too poor ever to be independent.

The practicalities of independence are a different matter.

Ok so is Scotland wealthy ?"

If Scotland is wealthy, why do you need Barnett?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"If the other 27 member states had signed a letter agreeing that Scotland can be fast tracked then that would be true.... but they have not.

Oh for fuck sake lol

Again yes some of the EU have again came out saying Scotland being fast tracked into the EU

Well all dont know the final brexit deal yet and when Scotland have an independence then am sure you will hear the EU be more and more vocal on Scotland

Its like you all have ants in your pants worried much ? Lmao

Spain have said they will veto an independent Scotland joining the EU!"

Oh fuck me someone clearly switched off and talking that Spain veto myth again lol

Spain have never said they would veto an independent Scotland

The EU clearly said the EU have a veto on Gibralter got it registered yet ?

Again think how nuts it would be

If Scotland votes yes for independence say in a legally binding referendum and meets the critera to join the EU how nuts would it look

I bet your ready to say its all cause we Scotland support Catalonia waiting in that is they way to punish Scotland lol

Yoons be crazy lol

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

First off are you denying this has been said ?

Where did I say that Kinky ?, be my guest, quote me where I imply you are lying before we can even go any further.

Ok have you tried finding it yet ? Answer the question when you have looked please lol

I will say 100% the EU side have said that an independent Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU ... true or false ? This will show if people are willing to actually listen to what is being said

No the EU has not said that.

There has been speculation by the SNP but that's it

http://www.europeanfutures.ed.ac.uk/article-4667

Jesus christ read above and you will see that people on here have said there is some from the EU that have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Are those above now telling porkies now ?

You said that the EU will do a fast track.

It's now "could be" according to you.

So let's be clear no one from the EU has said Scotland will be fast tracked.

Wow so your claiming those above are now telling porkies lol good one

Like i said their has been some within the EU that better for you that have sais Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU

Did it even cross your mind An independent Scotland could even adopt a system like Norway that is out of the EU but could be in the single market

You know very thing that Corbyn cant register in his heed that you can actually be iut if the EU and in the single market lol

And here we go again, the facts don't fit your stance so you change tack

Please provide a direct quote from an EU commissioner saying Scotland would be fast tracked, would be considered for fast tracking etc?

Look not being rude do it yourself stop being lazy you have access to the big world wide web use it lol"

So you have no proof, no evidence and are happy to be shown up as a flim flam merchant.

But this has been established for a while.