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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun?" No | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture." Evidence for this? Everything I've seen says the US has most guns per person of any country. | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture." Are you quite sure about that? The population of the USA is about 315 million and the population of Canada is about 35 million. There are an estimated 400 million legally held firearms in the United States and no one even knows how many illegal weapons. Every living Canadian would have to own 12-15 firearms for there to be more than in the United States. | |||
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"So if guns kill people . Pencils misspell words do they ????. It's the person not the guns " You might think you are clever but your logic is blatantly absurd. Are guns designed to kill people? Yes. Are spoons designed to make people fat? No. Are cars designed to be driven d*unk? No. Are pencils designed to misspell words? No. | |||
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"So if guns kill people . Pencils misspell words do they ????. It's the person not the guns You might think you are clever but your logic is blatantly absurd. Are guns designed to kill people? Yes. Are spoons designed to make people fat? No. Are cars designed to be driven d*unk? No. Are pencils designed to misspell words? No. "Are people who covet weapons deranged idiots? Yes. | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture. Evidence for this? Everything I've seen says the US has most guns per person of any country. " I heard it from somewhere that they have less gun violence per capita. | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture. Evidence for this? Everything I've seen says the US has most guns per person of any country. I heard it from somewhere that they have less gun violence per capita." It's not true. | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture. Evidence for this? Everything I've seen says the US has most guns per person of any country. I heard it from somewhere that they have less gun violence per capita. It's not true. " They said it also was probably because canada has less gang and drug related crime too. | |||
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"To put it in perspective, canada have more weapons than usa with less shootings, it is down to the culture. Evidence for this? Everything I've seen says the US has most guns per person of any country. I heard it from somewhere that they have less gun violence per capita. It's not true. They said it also was probably because canada has less gang and drug related crime too." Canada has less guns, and less gun violence per capita, than the US. | |||
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"Guns are more tightly controlled in Canada, with many restrictions on purchase and ownership. Canada ranks 13th in the list of gun homicide per capita. "  | |||
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"I'm very pleased that your average joe in this country is prohibited from possessing a firearm. It's an American disease." | |||
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"So if guns kill people . Pencils misspell words do they ????. It's the person not the guns " and yes guns do kill people there are weapon systems with their own radar that scan and destroy anything in sight on its own | |||
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"Always the same lame arguments are trotted out to by the justifiers... Guns, don't kill people, people kill people. It is better that 100 guilty go free than 1 innocent is falsely convicted. All nice and good but all these arguments have one fatal flaw, they refuse to apply even the smallest modicum of nuance. It is true that for a gun to kill it requires an outside control to point it in the right direction and pull the trigger. But there are many types of guns, short barrel single shot guns with small calibre and small charge ammunition designed for short range sports target shooting, similar but long barrel guns for longer range sports target shooting. Short barrel large calibre guns designed to kill but with limited range for personal protection, long barrel bolt action full-bore hunting weapons designed to kill large game at range, and of course AUTOMATIC ASSAULT rifles, designed to kill the maximum number of targets is the shortest time. This last sort of weapon has one purpose only TO KILL PEOPLE! So are they banned in the USA? No is the simple answer, as a civilian you are not allowed a fully automatic weapon but you can have an SLR, and you can have a drum magazine, and you can modify it so that it pulls the trigger automatically, you just can't have a burst or fully auto setting on your safety! WTF! Let me just ask everyone who 'supports' the second amendment and trots out the people kill people line evey time you have one of these killings... What is the difference between M1 Garant and an AR15? Other than the M 1 being bolt action with an 8 round magazine that in the hands of a highly skilled operator can fire 30 to 40 rounds a minute for a few minutes, and the AR 15 being a weapon that can have a bump stock bolted to it, a 150 round drum magazine inserted and can then be emptied by anyone (with less than 5 minutes training) and another magazine fitted and ready to go in about 45 seconds! An AR 15 is a 'civilian' Assault Rifle'." and after that rant; your point is? | |||
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"Even if they ban guns now it will take decades to rid the us of the guns but if they dnot start soon it's never going to change inocent ppl will keep being killed A change as to come one day but that day doesn't look like it's on it's way unfortunalty " You are aware the majority of U.S. citizen's are happy to own guns a ban in USA will never happen, it is a way of life | |||
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"idiots own guns, idiots with guns kill people " We are idiots then as we own 2 9mm pistols and some rifles (all kept in another country) | |||
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"Because it's ingrained in there DNA it's all they have ever known " Dude you could stack the blood soaked bodies of children from here to the moon.Not a fuck will be given.They are desensitised by violence against children.Its an acceptable price to pay for gun ownership. I think it's got something to do with feeling inferior and penis envy.Put a gun in the hand of these people they feel bigger tougher stronger.Maybe offering penis enhancement to American males will help. | |||
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"There is not widespread support for the right to bear arms all across the United States. I spend a lot of time in Florida and the MidWest and of all the people with whom I associate with or know at least reasonably well, I only know of two who have firearms. One has a little peashooter for which he has a conceal carry permit and the other has 47 different guns. The overwhelming majority of people that I know are as baffled and mystified at the nonsense of all this as we are." all the people you associate with, is that a couple of dozen couple of hundred wait for it, I expect you have thousands 
and I thought you said previous it was NY you spent all your time in | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun." Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? | |||
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"There is not widespread support for the right to bear arms all across the United States. I spend a lot of time in Florida and the MidWest and of all the people with whom I associate with or know at least reasonably well, I only know of two who have firearms. One has a little peashooter for which he has a conceal carry permit and the other has 47 different guns. The overwhelming majority of people that I know are as baffled and mystified at the nonsense of all this as we are. all the people you associate with, is that a couple of dozen couple of hundred wait for it, I expect you have thousands
and I thought you said previous it was NY you spent all your time in "What a sad life you must lead. There are many people on this forum who actually know me and what I do, so trying to get caught out by a forum troll like you is just not going to happen. My work takes me mainly to the MidWest, but I have an office in Florida too. Of all the places I spend time NY is where we go for fun when my wife is with me. So - you want to know numbers... These are people who I know reasonably well. In Florida - probably 30. Between Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo and Chicago - probably 150 or so with the majority being in Cleveland and Columbus. So, two people out of 150 But why take my word for it - just do some non-biased research. The US is demographically split and the only thing that I did say was that there is not support all over the United States. That is fact. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control?" No I dont. I meant to use it for normal things like that or paintball or other activities. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun." Guns compensate for a lot inferiorities in men this is well documented. I still think the biggest issue is a correlation between penis size and gun ownership ship and even size of gun they own.Sigmund Freud said "Men who obsess over guns suffer from penis envy".  | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Guns compensate for a lot inferiorities in men this is well documented. I still think the biggest issue is a correlation between penis size and gun ownership ship and even size of gun they own.Sigmund Freud said "Men who obsess over guns suffer from penis envy". "no no no Bob, not at all I have an MV Agusta F4 to compensate for my penis envy | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Guns compensate for a lot inferiorities in men this is well documented. I still think the biggest issue is a correlation between penis size and gun ownership ship and even size of gun they own.Sigmund Freud said "Men who obsess over guns suffer from penis envy".
no no no Bob, not at all
I have an MV Agusta F4 to compensate for my penis envy "Big bike and a big gun... You see Freud knew his stuff... | |||
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"There is not widespread support for the right to bear arms all across the United States. I spend a lot of time in Florida and the MidWest and of all the people with whom I associate with or know at least reasonably well, I only know of two who have firearms. One has a little peashooter for which he has a conceal carry permit and the other has 47 different guns. The overwhelming majority of people that I know are as baffled and mystified at the nonsense of all this as we are. all the people you associate with, is that a couple of dozen couple of hundred wait for it, I expect you have thousands
and I thought you said previous it was NY you spent all your time in
What a sad life you must lead. There are many people on this forum who actually know me and what I do, so trying to get caught out by a forum troll like you is just not going to happen.
My work takes me mainly to the MidWest, but I have an office in Florida too. Of all the places I spend time NY is where we go for fun when my wife is with me.
So - you want to know numbers... These are people who I know reasonably well. In Florida - probably 30. Between Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo and Chicago - probably 150 or so with the majority being in Cleveland and Columbus.
So, two people out of 150
But why take my word for it - just do some non-biased research. The US is demographically split and the only thing that I did say was that there is not support all over the United States.
That is fact."I don't know as many Americans as you do but iv got to say the Ines iv met in holidays may that be younger older black white women or men they almost all are against guns and envy the uk for not having a gun culture | |||
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"There is not widespread support for the right to bear arms all across the United States. I spend a lot of time in Florida and the MidWest and of all the people with whom I associate with or know at least reasonably well, I only know of two who have firearms. One has a little peashooter for which he has a conceal carry permit and the other has 47 different guns. The overwhelming majority of people that I know are as baffled and mystified at the nonsense of all this as we are. all the people you associate with, is that a couple of dozen couple of hundred wait for it, I expect you have thousands
and I thought you said previous it was NY you spent all your time in
What a sad life you must lead. There are many people on this forum who actually know me and what I do, so trying to get caught out by a forum troll like you is just not going to happen.
My work takes me mainly to the MidWest, but I have an office in Florida too. Of all the places I spend time NY is where we go for fun when my wife is with me.
So - you want to know numbers... These are people who I know reasonably well. In Florida - probably 30. Between Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo and Chicago - probably 150 or so with the majority being in Cleveland and Columbus.
So, two people out of 150
But why take my word for it - just do some non-biased research. The US is demographically split and the only thing that I did say was that there is not support all over the United States.
That is fact. I don't know as many Americans as you do but iv got to say the Ines iv met in holidays may that be younger older black white women or men they almost all are against guns and envy the uk for not having a gun culture "You are absolutely right. Most liberal Americans who live in urban areas think the whole gun ownership situation is madness. These are regular people who live in regular towns and cities like we do and who are cosmopolitan, worldly wise and who travel. Then again you have a massive rural population who see gun ownership as a necessity and you have the urban "tiny cock" big gun guys who really should not be allowed to own a gun. OK - these are broad generalizations but the reality is that most Americans that you or I would bump into would be as horrified as we are at what is going on. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control?" but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... | |||
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"There is not widespread support for the right to bear arms all across the United States. I spend a lot of time in Florida and the MidWest and of all the people with whom I associate with or know at least reasonably well, I only know of two who have firearms. One has a little peashooter for which he has a conceal carry permit and the other has 47 different guns. The overwhelming majority of people that I know are as baffled and mystified at the nonsense of all this as we are. all the people you associate with, is that a couple of dozen couple of hundred wait for it, I expect you have thousands
and I thought you said previous it was NY you spent all your time in
What a sad life you must lead. There are many people on this forum who actually know me and what I do, so trying to get caught out by a forum troll like you is just not going to happen.
My work takes me mainly to the MidWest, but I have an office in Florida too. Of all the places I spend time NY is where we go for fun when my wife is with me.
So - you want to know numbers... These are people who I know reasonably well. In Florida - probably 30. Between Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo and Chicago - probably 150 or so with the majority being in Cleveland and Columbus.
So, two people out of 150
But why take my word for it - just do some non-biased research. The US is demographically split and the only thing that I did say was that there is not support all over the United States.
That is fact. I don't know as many Americans as you do but iv got to say the Ines iv met in holidays may that be younger older black white women or men they almost all are against guns and envy the uk for not having a gun culture
You are absolutely right. Most liberal Americans who live in urban areas think the whole gun ownership situation is madness. These are regular people who live in regular towns and cities like we do and who are cosmopolitan, worldly wise and who travel. Then again you have a massive rural population who see gun ownership as a necessity and you have the urban "tiny cock" big gun guys who really should not be allowed to own a gun.
OK - these are broad generalizations but the reality is that most Americans that you or I would bump into would be as horrified as we are at what is going on.
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... " I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... " well said | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes" That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. " Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot " And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. " I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking" .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. " I guess you shoot a Tikka .223? | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. I guess you shoot a Tikka .223?" Not anymore - I only had rifles briefly. I lived next to the 'keeper so I just borrowed his. He was a southpaw so we could swap lamp/gun from the seats of the defender. | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. " If you ever drive up the A9 past Dunkeld / Pitlochry, you will see heard's of reds, all coming down off the hills & mountains due to the snow, to graze its an amazing sight seeing 100's, but not so good when they try to cross roads | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. If you ever drive up the A9 past Dunkeld / Pitlochry, you will see heard's of reds, all coming down off the hills & mountains due to the snow, to graze its an amazing sight seeing 100's, but not so good when they try to cross roads" Come to the New Forest, there's so many Roe it beggars belief. That same ex-neighbour keeper is now keeper on a Forest Estate and his cull alone is over 200, says he can barely keep up... | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. If you ever drive up the A9 past Dunkeld / Pitlochry, you will see heard's of reds, all coming down off the hills & mountains due to the snow, to graze its an amazing sight seeing 100's, but not so good when they try to cross roads Come to the New Forest, there's so many Roe it beggars belief. That same ex-neighbour keeper is now keeper on a Forest Estate and his cull alone is over 200, says he can barely keep up..." I'm renovating a cottage in the new forest this month.I saw today something I've never seen in all the years I've lived here.A white stag.I dont know if it's rare but I've seen hundreds of deer over the years. But I've never this beast .But who the fuck would shoot that beautiful animal...?? | |||
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"You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun. Why is that? you have a problem with target shooting? stalking & deer control? but there is a always a saying that michigan hunters say.... "if you need an assault style weapon to hunt a deer.... stick to fishing!".... and thats the point..... the issue isn't about banning ALL guns... that bird flew ages ago and that what the NRA tell you people want to do, but its a red herring.... the issue is common sense gun control.... for example... do the public really need to own semi automatic assault style weapons? if you want a handgun to protect yourself in your own home.. fine, but this???? for example... extended magazine rounds... when on earth do you really needs rounds of 30-40 bullets in which a round of 10 would not do the same job!..... you planning of killing a deer or a herd??? how many guns does 1 person need?... if i give you 1 for protection and 1 for hunting (if you hunt!), would you really need more than that? you want a new gun for protection, fine... hand in your old one (or buy back at a fraction) stuff can be done... most of the stuff is not controversial..... I am sure the thread you replied to was " You can argue that a sane person wouldnt pick up a gun" I replied by saying "you have a problem with target shooting" or deer control / stalking . you went on to ask, how many guns does 1 person need that would depend on what competition he was shooting, different calibres etc . also different firearms for different types of deer, i.e. I use a .308 for reds but you can use smaller calibre for roe in UK you can own .22 semi auto legally and also semi auto 12 gauge single slug shotgun 10 shot. you can also own certain semi auto handguns in UK, I prefer my Taurus 7 shot revolver How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes That's kind of the point. There's no reason that people could ever need an assault rifle or a handgun really (I can see certain exceptions in the case of a handgun, it's quite handy for putting down ill livestock), weapons which were explicitly designed for killing people, and have no other use at all. I can see the case for owning hunting weaponry, I own legally held firearms myself. Guns are a tool. It is one thing to want a tool whose purpose is to gather your dinner and quite another to want one whos purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Jimi You can legally own a AR15 in the UK and it is fit for purpose for target shooting, you can also get an open ticket for stalking with one, although can be frowned upon. Hand guns are becoming much more popular in target shooting also semi auto shotguns are also fully justified for practical shotgun, and you would not get very far in the sport with an over/under 2 shot And therein I'd find enough reason not to permit owership of an AR-15. It's not practically a stalking weapon, that wasn't what it's designed for. I honestly don't care about target shooting - you can shoot at at target with any of the available weapons if you so choose. I agree about semi-auto shotguns, although I dislike them personally, they have a practical application. I think you would find it difficult to shoot a 9mm or .357 at a 500 yard target personally I use a Remington 700, .308 with Swarovski X5 scope, which suites my needs well in all aspects of deer stalking .308s aren't as popular down here. I imagine because there are so many Roe about, it's not that common to see Red deer. If you ever drive up the A9 past Dunkeld / Pitlochry, you will see heard's of reds, all coming down off the hills & mountains due to the snow, to graze its an amazing sight seeing 100's, but not so good when they try to cross roads Come to the New Forest, there's so many Roe it beggars belief. That same ex-neighbour keeper is now keeper on a Forest Estate and his cull alone is over 200, says he can barely keep up... I'm renovating a cottage in the new forest this month.I saw today something I've never seen in all the years I've lived here.A white stag.I dont know if it's rare but I've seen hundreds of deer over the years. But I've never this beast .But who the fuck would shoot that beautiful animal...?? " Ive seen more than one, it's odd insomuch as deer on the forest on the whole tend to be darker than the ones out on the fields. I think it's bad luck to shoot one..... | |||
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" I'm renovating a cottage in the new forest this month.I saw today something I've never seen in all the years I've lived here.A white stag.I dont know if it's rare but I've seen hundreds of deer over the years. But I've never this beast .But who the fuck would shoot that beautiful animal...?? dairy farmers concerned with the spread of bovine TB? ah no, they just direct their anger at badgers ... silly me " Dairy farms are deer fenced round here for obvious reason. | |||
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"idiots own guns, idiots with guns kill people We are idiots then as we own 2 9mm pistols and some rifles (all kept in another country)" Maybe you are idiots! Has it occurred to you that you might be stupid ? That you might have problems understanding complicated ideas? That your brains might not be as high voltage as you think they are? In short that you might just be plain old thick? I've read your profile and it is infantile... | |||
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"How many guns does one person need, that all depends on what they shoot, different firearms for different purposes" Thomas Hamilton needed 4 Michael Ryan made do with 3 | |||
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" I'm renovating a cottage in the new forest this month.I saw today something I've never seen in all the years I've lived here.A white stag.I dont know if it's rare but I've seen hundreds of deer over the years. But I've never this beast .But who the fuck would shoot that beautiful animal...?? " Bob they are very rare, we have one up Dunkeld / Pitlochry way I am saying "we", it roams around wild and no one will shoot it even if its in the forestry we shoot in Some have seen it as far down as Dunkeld, others have sighted it up past Pitlochry and up Bruar way stunning beast . The white appearance is caused by leucism, a rare genetic pattern that reduces levels of the pigment responsible for the stags colour . It has a "Get out of Jail Free" card, no one will shoot it, even if it is sighted eating forestry bark, as you say, they are wonderful beasts | |||
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"So if guns kill people . Pencils misspell words do they ????. It's the person not the guns You might think you are clever but your logic is blatantly absurd. Are guns designed to kill people? Yes. Are spoons designed to make people fat? No. Are cars designed to be driven d*unk? No. Are pencils designed to misspell words? No. " | |||
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"It's time people stop this nonsense that guns don't kill people,people kill people. OK let's say Kim Jong un said."Nuclear weapons don't kill people.Its the guy who pushes the button that kills people." How fucking ridiculous does that sound!. Lots of stuff kills. The fact people stab ,punch or pull the trigger or push the button isn't an argument . Crazy fuckers do kill people. Guns make the killing easier and more efficient in the hands of even the untrained. Drop the argument that it's people at fault here.It makes you look fucking ridiculous." Bob, I do believe acid is the problem down your neck of the woods | |||
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"It's time people stop this nonsense that guns don't kill people,people kill people. OK let's say Kim Jong un said."Nuclear weapons don't kill people.Its the guy who pushes the button that kills people." How fucking ridiculous does that sound!. Lots of stuff kills. The fact people stab ,punch or pull the trigger or push the button isn't an argument . Crazy fuckers do kill people. Guns make the killing easier and more efficient in the hands of even the untrained. Drop the argument that it's people at fault here.It makes you look fucking ridiculous. Bob, I do believe acid is the problem down your neck of the woods" Acid is used to unblock drains it's not made to be thrown into people's faces.An Ar15 is made to kill living things.Such absurd relativism makes you a cunt grandpa. | |||
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"It's time people stop this nonsense that guns don't kill people,people kill people. OK let's say Kim Jong un said."Nuclear weapons don't kill people.Its the guy who pushes the button that kills people." How fucking ridiculous does that sound!. Lots of stuff kills. The fact people stab ,punch or pull the trigger or push the button isn't an argument . Crazy fuckers do kill people. Guns make the killing easier and more efficient in the hands of even the untrained. Drop the argument that it's people at fault here.It makes you look fucking ridiculous. Bob, I do believe acid is the problem down your neck of the woods Acid is used to unblock drains it's not made to be thrown into people's faces.An Ar15 is made to kill living things.Such absurd relativism makes you a cunt grandpa. " Bob, I have not shot one living thing with my AR15 only paper targets and steel plates, okay some skittles too are you saying I am wrong to own an AR15 as I will never kill a living thing with it fool on you. | |||
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"It's time people stop this nonsense that guns don't kill people,people kill people. OK let's say Kim Jong un said."Nuclear weapons don't kill people.Its the guy who pushes the button that kills people." How fucking ridiculous does that sound!. Lots of stuff kills. The fact people stab ,punch or pull the trigger or push the button isn't an argument . Crazy fuckers do kill people. Guns make the killing easier and more efficient in the hands of even the untrained. Drop the argument that it's people at fault here.It makes you look fucking ridiculous. Bob, I do believe acid is the problem down your neck of the woods Acid is used to unblock drains it's not made to be thrown into people's faces.An Ar15 is made to kill living things.Such absurd relativism makes you a cunt grandpa. Bob, I have not shot one living thing with my AR15 only paper targets and steel plates, okay some skittles too are you saying I am wrong to own an AR15 as I will never kill a living thing with it fool on you." Absurd fucking relativism .Say guns don't kill people one more fucking time.I double dare you mother fucker. | |||
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"It's time people stop this nonsense that guns don't kill people,people kill people. OK let's say Kim Jong un said."Nuclear weapons don't kill people.Its the guy who pushes the button that kills people." How fucking ridiculous does that sound!. Lots of stuff kills. The fact people stab ,punch or pull the trigger or push the button isn't an argument . Crazy fuckers do kill people. Guns make the killing easier and more efficient in the hands of even the untrained. Drop the argument that it's people at fault here.It makes you look fucking ridiculous. Bob, I do believe acid is the problem down your neck of the woods Acid is used to unblock drains it's not made to be thrown into people's faces.An Ar15 is made to kill living things.Such absurd relativism makes you a cunt grandpa. Bob, I have not shot one living thing with my AR15 only paper targets and steel plates, okay some skittles too are you saying I am wrong to own an AR15 as I will never kill a living thing with it fool on you. Absurd fucking relativism .Say guns don't kill people one more fucking time.I double dare you mother fucker." read above, you just said it yourself Bobby boy | |||
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"This is last response you'll ever get from me.Esta la vista. "best you go clean your room, tidy up and put these shoes away | |||
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"I have had daily exposure to firearms for the last 12 years, yet I haven’t went mad and shot up a school. Don’t blame an inanimate object for the owners actions" Many people are sane for there entire lives until they aren't. Their spouse cheats on them. They go bankrupt. They get the sack. A loved one dies. Then all bets are off. | |||
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"I have had daily exposure to firearms for the last 12 years, yet I haven’t went mad and shot up a school. Don’t blame an inanimate object for the owners actions" Another argumentum ad absurdum. | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun?" It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! | |||
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"By the looks of things there may be a change about to happen in the USA... When teenagers are calling bullshit on lawmakers and leading chants of 'shame on you' you know a c change is in the offing. Last time this happened in the USA was the Vietnam Peace Movement, it took 9 years to go from a hippy cult to a mass movement that changed America. With the internet and social media things happen faster now. Already Trump is saying that there have to be more and more vigorous FBI checks. I think it will not be long till the ownership of assault weapons is outlawed in the States. The question is how many of the 'good old boys' will actually live up to their mantra of from my cold dead hand before they all start trooping in to their local arms surrender point to hand over their 'guns and ammo'? I expect that as soon as they work out that they may get to take someone with them if they are lucky but mostly they get to die violently the right wing militias will be disarming and disbanding faster than ice cubes melt in boiling water." I can't help but think that if someone is willing to die to keep their weapons, they really, really should have them to begin with... | |||
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"I can't help but think that if someone is willing to die to keep their weapons, they really, really should have them to begin with..." I take it you meant really should not have them in the first instance. But I think what they really mean is that they are willing to kill to keep their weapons and believe that if they kill while saying they are willing to die then the rest of the world will give them what they demand. I expect that when they come up against some battle hardened GI's, whose only interest is slotting the shits who are trying to slot them, then they will quickly lose interest in being a militia man and giving some to an G man who tries to take their guns from them. I may be wrong, but I expect I am not. | |||
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"I can't help but think that if someone is willing to die to keep their weapons, they really, really should have them to begin with... I take it you meant really should not have them in the first instance. But I think what they really mean is that they are willing to kill to keep their weapons and believe that if they kill while saying they are willing to die then the rest of the world will give them what they demand. I expect that when they come up against some battle hardened GI's, whose only interest is slotting the shits who are trying to slot them, then they will quickly lose interest in being a militia man and giving some to an G man who tries to take their guns from them. I may be wrong, but I expect I am not." I meant the ones who are actually willing to die shouldn't be anywhere near a weapon. The ones who claim to be but aren't will, as you say, roll over. Still shouldn't be near a weapon though | |||
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"I can't help but think that if someone is willing to die to keep their weapons, they really, really should have them to begin with... I take it you meant really should not have them in the first instance. But I think what they really mean is that they are willing to kill to keep their weapons and believe that if they kill while saying they are willing to die then the rest of the world will give them what they demand. I expect that when they come up against some battle hardened GI's, whose only interest is slotting the shits who are trying to slot them, then they will quickly lose interest in being a militia man and giving some to an G man who tries to take their guns from them. I may be wrong, but I expect I am not. I meant the ones who are actually willing to die shouldn't be anywhere near a weapon. The ones who claim to be but aren't will, as you say, roll over. Still shouldn't be near a weapon though "Correct btw shouldn't* have them | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times !" are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to ! | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to !" again; are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" im not talking double barrel shotgun, talking 10 shot benelli M2 type | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to ! again; are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" im not talking double barrel shotgun, talking 10 shot benelli M2 type " No, he is saying that when you walk into a classroom full of kids, you can do far more damage unloading a high capacity magazine from an AR17 than you can with a bolt-action rifle. You know this. You are just being a twat. -Matt | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to ! again; are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" im not talking double barrel shotgun, talking 10 shot benelli M2 type No, he is saying that when you walk into a classroom full of kids, you can do far more damage unloading a high capacity magazine from an AR17 than you can with a bolt-action rifle. You know this. You are just being a twat. -Matt" Here here I couldent agree more imbosile | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to ! again; are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" im not talking double barrel shotgun, talking 10 shot benelli M2 type " Some full auto rifles are more accurate than some semi auto rifles. Rifles are more accurate than shotguns. Full auto rifles and do more damage per minute than semi auto. | |||
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"We have seen recently on the news lots of mass shootings, especially in usa, do you also agree that it it is down to the person, not the gun? It's down to the type of gun how many will die ! Imagine if the Nut Job who killed Jo Cox had had an automatic adult rifle or the Scum that killed lee Rigby ! Michael Ryan would have killed more in Hungerford but his gun Jammed several times ! are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun? I'm saying the better the gun the more people die ! How many armed forces are equipped with double barrelled shot guns or bolt action rifles ? Ryan would have killed many more if his weapon had allowed him to ! again; are you saying an automatic rifle is more accurate than a semi auto rifle or shotgun?" im not talking double barrel shotgun, talking 10 shot benelli M2 type No, he is saying that when you walk into a classroom full of kids, you can do far more damage unloading a high capacity magazine from an AR17 than you can with a bolt-action rifle. You know this. You are just being a twat. -Matt Here here I couldent agree more imbosile " I read yesterday that the standard practise taught to kids in active shooter situations is if a shooter comes into the classroom to make noise, to run about. To throw things at them. To distract them. You are still going to get pumped full of lead anyway... but you might just slow them down another 10 seconds. 10 seconds that the kids in the other classroom might get to safety. 10 seconds that law enforcement might arrive. Just how heartbreaking is that. I read about a girl who came home from school saying she needed new school shoes as the ones she had with lights on would give her position away if she were trying to hide from a shooter. My 7 year old daughter went back to school yesterday after half term. With new trainers. With lights on. I just fucking hope that she doesn't see something online or in the news about this and come home afraid of the lights in her shoes. Why should I have to sit down and explain the situation to her. The US needs to sort it's shit out. -Matt | |||
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