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"I've picked vegetables in fields alongside prisoners in Australia. We will probably bring back the seasonal agriculture workers scheme(SAWS) which ran from 1945 and was scrapped in 2013 due to enough EU workers. Previous the workers were Russian and Ukrainian and eastern European." A good idea - Australian idea seems a good one for the taxpayer! | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. " A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up!" There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. " was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. " A good point! Is it "snob" value? However there are important jobs upon which we all depend on but may not be well paid. For example picking the crops feeds us. Collecting the dustbins etc are all important as are Drs and police. | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. " i remember in the way back when there was a docu on TV they did about unemployment (i think it was based in lincolnshire) where the youngsters were all complaining there were no jobs... to which they were then offered jobs picking fruit and veg pickers, and every single one of them turned their noses up so here is the dirty secret no one ever likes talking about... immigrants do a hell of a lot of the jobs that the natives feel are below them!!! so if there is a drop in the number of seasonal people willing to come over here (which is what i assume has happened because numbers of people from the EU applying for jobs in the uk has dropped across most sectors) then this sort of thing will likely be happeneing more and more..... | |||
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"the farmers are too tight to pay anywhere near minimum wage .... fruit picking is the original gig economy and things like stawberries, asparagus, cabage etc is paid as piece-work. It's hardly surprising that folks don't want the job of picking when gangmasters don't pay for 75 out of 100 punnets of berries because they reckon that they were 'roughly picked' ... but then you watch those 'roughly picked' punnets get loaded onto the pallets, wrapped and loaded onto the waitrose lorry all the same ... all for £27.30 for 12 hours work ... it's bollocks" if you pee on the punnets before getting them weighed, they weigh in heavier fact, we done it as kids  | |||
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" I'll have you know I did tattie howking in the fields of Fife when I was growing up "Bell Baxter high school?  | |||
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"any of you townies and city dwellers ever seen a field, never mind being in one "I'm surrounded by them "if you pee on the punnets before getting them weighed, they weigh in heavier fact, we done it as kids " Almost as nonsensical as Centaur's TGT will replace antibiotics post | |||
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" I'll have you know I did tattie howking in the fields of Fife when I was growing up
Bell Baxter high school? "West Fife. Dunfermline. | |||
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"any of you townies and city dwellers ever seen a field, never mind being in one
I'm surrounded by them
if you pee on the punnets before getting them weighed, they weigh in heavier
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we done it as kids
Almost as nonsensical as Centaur's TGT will replace antibiotics post
"You've misquoted me there as I said alternative treatments to antibiotics could (not will) become available within the next 50 years. | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up!" The 20% more efficient figure is very misleading as it was the first time the British workers had ever done this type of work. They were being compared to Eastern Europeans who were very experienced in this type of work so it's kind of obvious the more experienced you are the more efficient you'd be at the job. With time the British workers would build up the experience and become more efficient over time. A fairer assessment would have been to compare new Brits who had never done the job before to new Eastern Europeans who had never done the job before. | |||
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"any of you townies and city dwellers ever seen a field, never mind being in one "Lol..
Done my bit gathering in the crops.. Worst one for me was spuds and turnip | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! The 20% more efficient figure is very misleading as it was the first time the British workers had ever done this type of work. They were being compared to Eastern Europeans who were very experienced in this type of work so it's kind of obvious the more experienced you are the more efficient you'd be at the job. With time the British workers would build up the experience and become more efficient over time. A fairer assessment would have been to compare new Brits who had never done the job before to new Eastern Europeans who had never done the job before. " I agree, asparagus is a bit tricky in that there's a skill in harvesting it. It can be spoilt if not done proper | |||
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"the farmers are too tight to pay anywhere near minimum wage .... fruit picking is the original gig economy and things like stawberries, asparagus, cabage etc is paid as piece-work. It's hardly surprising that folks don't want the job of picking when gangmasters don't pay for 75 out of 100 punnets of berries because they reckon that they were 'roughly picked' ... but then you watch those 'roughly picked' punnets get loaded onto the pallets, wrapped and loaded onto the waitrose lorry all the same ... all for £27.30 for 12 hours work ... it's bollocks" Ah another point here to consider. Is it not our fault for wanting ever cheaper prices? Is it not the big supermarkets who screw the farmers? At the end of the day a farmer has to pay the minimum wage - legally? I don't know anything about gang masters, but it sounds a shady way of employing or should I say exploiting people in 2018! Although I suppose it's just the same as zero hours contracts? Suffice to say farmers, anyone in business needs to make a profit to be sustainable. Milk being a prime example. | |||
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"the farmers are too tight to pay anywhere near minimum wage .... fruit picking is the original gig economy and things like stawberries, asparagus, cabage etc is paid as piece-work. It's hardly surprising that folks don't want the job of picking when gangmasters don't pay for 75 out of 100 punnets of berries because they reckon that they were 'roughly picked' ... but then you watch those 'roughly picked' punnets get loaded onto the pallets, wrapped and loaded onto the waitrose lorry all the same ... all for £27.30 for 12 hours work ... it's bollocks Ah another point here to consider. Is it not our fault for wanting ever cheaper prices? Is it not the big supermarkets who screw the farmers? At the end of the day a farmer has to pay the minimum wage - legally? I don't know anything about gang masters, but it sounds a shady way of employing or should I say exploiting people in 2018! Although I suppose it's just the same as zero hours contracts? Suffice to say farmers, anyone in business needs to make a profit to be sustainable. Milk being a prime example. " so if the farmers are being ripped off how come fruit farmers from hereford able to have task forces of minion sbrokering deals to move their fruit growing operations to china as we speak ... this agricultural sector claiming poverty is quite frankly bull chunks | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective " whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children" Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager " try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective " if they went to deprived arrears in the north spoke to the young they would be filled very fast the holiday camps and camp sites have no Problem filling there posts | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is "Any picking would be hard for older folk. | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
"children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks"When have I rounded my VITRIOL on the young? | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective " School & Government prevent children from working, I know when I was a kid at school working in petrol station they brought in a policy so you could only work certain hours Does someone know how long kids can work now? | |||
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"Immigration from Europe has fallen, following the trends and predictions leaving no surprises. All employers face the challenge of how to attract and recruit the right staff in a competitive marketplace, in a culture where living costs are high and rent and mortgages needing security of income. Rural public transport is also decimated and populations have shrunk, with ever more property bought as second homes. It needs responsible government action." shame we still have an irresponsible government | |||
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"My best friends family own a well know fruit farm an Angus. The majority of pickers are Eastern European. They have no shortage of applicants at the start of the year. As far as I know nothing has changed with regard to the foreign workers in the agricultural sector. Will ask her what the current policies are regarding this. "Yeah, its sensationalist bollocks. I know a few fruit and salad/veg growers and they got it all in OK | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks"No, no they aren't. It was gypsy work before the Eastern Europeans came in - youd have to go back quite a way to find rural families taking time off to pick fruit in autumn. | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks
No, no they aren't.
It was gypsy work before the Eastern Europeans came in - youd have to go back quite a way to find rural families taking time off to pick fruit in autumn. "actually that's not how it went ... travellers were picking prior to the eastern borders being opened in the very late 90's early 2000's ... mostly new age travellers rather than gypsies or roma were picking through the 80's and into the 90's.... prior to that it was definately children and olds. tis why the school holidays in the summer are so long. | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks
No, no they aren't.
It was gypsy work before the Eastern Europeans came in - youd have to go back quite a way to find rural families taking time off to pick fruit in autumn.
actually that's not how it went ... travellers were picking prior to the eastern borders being opened in the very late 90's early 2000's ... mostly new age travellers rather than gypsies or roma were picking through the 80's and into the 90's.... prior to that it was definately children and olds. tis why the school holidays in the summer are so long. "Prior to the 90s? a long way prior! I don't remember anyone other than gypsies picking fruit in the 80s. Admittedly, I was a kid, but I know plenty of other farmers and I think you are looking at the 60s at least when the gypsies started picking. | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective whats wrong with early retirees being put to work ... it would give them a sence of value and worth in society plus they would be far more productive than children Early retirees lol have you ever picked spuds, its hard enough when your a teenager try picking hops sweetpea, then you know what graft is
Any picking would be hard for older folk.
children and grandparents are the traditional and historic pickers in this country. only you choose to round your vitriol on the young instead of the adults ... people in their 50's early 60's are quite capable of manual tasks
No, no they aren't.
It was gypsy work before the Eastern Europeans came in - youd have to go back quite a way to find rural families taking time off to pick fruit in autumn.
actually that's not how it went ... travellers were picking prior to the eastern borders being opened in the very late 90's early 2000's ... mostly new age travellers rather than gypsies or roma were picking through the 80's and into the 90's.... prior to that it was definately children and olds. tis why the school holidays in the summer are so long.
Prior to the 90s? a long way prior!
I don't remember anyone other than gypsies picking fruit in the 80s. Admittedly, I was a kid, but I know plenty of other farmers and I think you are looking at the 60s at least when the gypsies started picking. "i grew up travelling in an old bedford RL army truck mostly .... i lived it | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! The 20% more efficient figure is very misleading as it was the first time the British workers had ever done this type of work. They were being compared to Eastern Europeans who were very experienced in this type of work so it's kind of obvious the more experienced you are the more efficient you'd be at the job. With time the British workers would build up the experience and become more efficient over time. A fairer assessment would have been to compare new Brits who had never done the job before to new Eastern Europeans who had never done the job before. I agree, asparagus is a bit tricky in that there's a skill in harvesting it. It can be spoilt if not done proper" The British kids that the producers hired were all students and thus not used to manual labour or working outdoors in freezing temperatures. It was not a representative nor fair scientific test. | |||
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"This was not thought about when the Brexit vote was taking place. " It was, some Leavers were pissed off with having so many foreign workers here, look at the correlation between agricultural areas and leave votes, and some Remainers pointed out this exact scenario. | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper "You go pick cabbages, kale and leeks in the autumn harvest time then - I did that for a bit of extra cash as an undergrad and before going back to do a masters. 5am starts, cold weather, usually rainy. I dont blame people for not wanting to do it. But I have so kuch respect for those who do it long term. Can't see job centers getting too many applicants thpugh. Not just due to low wages for the hard labour, bad weather and long hours. Most job centres in rural consituencies where farming of this kind is large scale wont have many young, low to average educated workers who can physically do it. What are you gonna do, tell a 50+ year old to do it? Or will you get other job centres to send you a mini bus full of unemployed young men? How will you house them? | |||
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"How did fruit and veg get picked in the past? My self and my siblings spent our summers picking spuds and plenty of my distance relatives worked as seasonal workers on British farms. Im sure in rural areas of England there are plenty of local youngsters well able to work. As for those shows where they place urban youths in unfamiliar surroundings they are hardly subjective if they went to deprived arrears in the north spoke to the young they would be filled very fast the holiday camps and camp sites have no Problem filling there posts " I call bullshit. The organisation I work for often sends me and others out to do oppertunity fairs at our job centers in deprived areas - we go looking for people who'll do cleaning work, offer them a contracted job within a medical facility, with oppertunities to be trained up in specialist lab cleaning, technitian work, logistics and admin if they show they're willing.. We've only ever had 3 applicants. Secondly i'll say it again, your rural job centers where this kind of work is based wont get many young people in the area, and if you want to bring people from urban/suburban areas, who the hell will pay to transport them and house them? | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper
You go pick cabbages, kale and leeks in the autumn harvest time then - I did that for a bit of extra cash as an undergrad and before going back to do a masters.
5am starts, cold weather, usually rainy. I dont blame people for not wanting to do it.
But I have so kuch respect for those who do it long term.
Can't see job centers getting too many applicants thpugh. Not just due to low wages for the hard labour, bad weather and long hours. Most job centres in rural consituencies where farming of this kind is large scale wont have many young, low to average educated workers who can physically do it.
What are you gonna do, tell a 50+ year old to do it? Or will you get other job centres to send you a mini bus full of unemployed young men? How will you house them?"whats wrong with a 50+ year old doing it, if I needed the cash I would happily do it, loved doing it when I was a kid and its a lot easier than panning for gold and I get up and do that for free, being bent over knee deep in a cold river or stream for hours on end isn't the best, but you are out in the country side enjoying fresh air & scenery | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper
You go pick cabbages, kale and leeks in the autumn harvest time then - I did that for a bit of extra cash as an undergrad and before going back to do a masters.
5am starts, cold weather, usually rainy. I dont blame people for not wanting to do it.
But I have so kuch respect for those who do it long term.
Can't see job centers getting too many applicants thpugh. Not just due to low wages for the hard labour, bad weather and long hours. Most job centres in rural consituencies where farming of this kind is large scale wont have many young, low to average educated workers who can physically do it.
What are you gonna do, tell a 50+ year old to do it? Or will you get other job centres to send you a mini bus full of unemployed young men? How will you house them?
whats wrong with a 50+ year old doing it, if I needed the cash I would happily do it, loved doing it when I was a kid and its a lot easier than panning for gold and I get up and do that for free, being bent over knee deep in a cold river or stream for hours on end isn't the best, but you are out in the country side enjoying fresh air & scenery"Careful there will be a goldrush in Kinross | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper
You go pick cabbages, kale and leeks in the autumn harvest time then - I did that for a bit of extra cash as an undergrad and before going back to do a masters.
5am starts, cold weather, usually rainy. I dont blame people for not wanting to do it.
But I have so kuch respect for those who do it long term.
Can't see job centers getting too many applicants thpugh. Not just due to low wages for the hard labour, bad weather and long hours. Most job centres in rural consituencies where farming of this kind is large scale wont have many young, low to average educated workers who can physically do it.
What are you gonna do, tell a 50+ year old to do it? Or will you get other job centres to send you a mini bus full of unemployed young men? How will you house them?
whats wrong with a 50+ year old doing it, if I needed the cash I would happily do it, loved doing it when I was a kid and its a lot easier than panning for gold and I get up and do that for free, being bent over knee deep in a cold river or stream for hours on end isn't the best, but you are out in the country side enjoying fresh air & scenery
Careful there will be a goldrush in Kinross "if only, I need to drive 30+ miles to the good spots | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. A farm in Cornwall tried an experiment with young British workers. They were about 20% as efficient as Eastern Europeans, and moaned and bitched about everything, from the mud to not being able to wear make up! There is a rule that picker jobs have to advertised to everyone. These are normally pushed through the job centres and back to work schemes. Like you say there seems a lot of stigma attached to certain jobs that some people believe are minimal or mundane so will automatically reject the opportunity of employment. was my favourite summertime job as a kid picking strawberries in fields and put cash in the hipper
You go pick cabbages, kale and leeks in the autumn harvest time then - I did that for a bit of extra cash as an undergrad and before going back to do a masters.
5am starts, cold weather, usually rainy. I dont blame people for not wanting to do it.
But I have so kuch respect for those who do it long term.
Can't see job centers getting too many applicants thpugh. Not just due to low wages for the hard labour, bad weather and long hours. Most job centres in rural consituencies where farming of this kind is large scale wont have many young, low to average educated workers who can physically do it.
What are you gonna do, tell a 50+ year old to do it? Or will you get other job centres to send you a mini bus full of unemployed young men? How will you house them?
whats wrong with a 50+ year old doing it, if I needed the cash I would happily do it, loved doing it when I was a kid and its a lot easier than panning for gold and I get up and do that for free, being bent over knee deep in a cold river or stream for hours on end isn't the best, but you are out in the country side enjoying fresh air & scenery"Nothing wrong with it but come on, many 50+ year olds arent fit enough for it. Also feesh air and countryside? Get a grip half of our farmland is next to major motorways and main roads. Get out of your little highland bubble, most people arent that fortunate | |||
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"Have you ever found gold.Sounds like fun though.If you have the time.Anybody made a big find.?" anyone who pans for gold never finds gold even the ones who do find gold, say they never find gold, just a hobby, fun
Google: "Scottish Gold Mine"
or "gold in Perthshire hills"
or gold panning in Scotland | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. " British people are to lazy they will have to get off there backsides when we leave the EU a great benefit lets get the lazy Brits back to work,the poles are the best workers we need to learn from them | |||
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"Again ppl putting there own country down what do you get out of calling Brits lazy " Just saying as it is we are a discrace I have allways in the passed sadly preferered to employ overseas staff as a manager in a business. I did vote for brexit so I get no pleasure in admitting this | |||
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"Again ppl putting there own country down what do you get out of calling Brits lazy " lots of Brits put the country down, some don't even think the UK can survive outside the EU, some think we need the EU to hold our hands and tell us what to do | |||
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"Again ppl putting there own country down what do you get out of calling Brits lazy " We do have some brits who are lazy, some who if they can get away with it will spend their working life claiming benefits rather than contributing.. To assume that by acknowledgement of this fact that anyone is referring to the whole country is simply to have not read what been written properly.. | |||
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"Again ppl putting there own country down what do you get out of calling Brits lazy Just saying as it is we are a discrace I have allways in the passed sadly preferered to employ overseas staff as a manager in a business. I did vote for brexit so I get no pleasure in admitting this" physician heal thyself  | |||
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"Apparently fruit and vegetables in British fields rotting as there is no one to pick it! Due to a shortage of immigrants it's not being picked, so should we now look at those claiming unemployment benefit in these areas "earn" their benefit? They go and pick the food - get paid for it. Is this is a dormant workforce which could be used? Your thoughts please. British people are to lazy they will have to get off there backsides when we leave the EU a great benefit lets get the lazy Brits back to work,the poles are the best workers we need to learn from them" No evidence provided - inaccurate sweeping generalization | |||
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"Again ppl putting there own country down what do you get out of calling Brits lazy We do have some brits who are lazy, some who if they can get away with it will spend their working life claiming benefits rather than contributing.. To assume that by acknowledgement of this fact that anyone is referring to the whole country is simply to have not read what been written properly.. " you could of mention the eu citizens who come here for benefits aswell then | |||
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