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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" " One. This is council tax and Scotland are going to follow because council tax not being raised was only a delay. Two. Scotland does have the highest income tax in the UK . | |||
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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" " I don't ski !!!!! | |||
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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" One. This is council tax and Scotland are going to follow because council tax not being raised was only a delay. Two. Scotland does have the highest income tax in the UK ." Ooffft believing what the Tories tell you know ? Lol | |||
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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" I don't ski !!!!!" Ah right just putting money into off shore accounts then ? Hehehe thats banter btw | |||
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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" One. This is council tax and Scotland are going to follow because council tax not being raised was only a delay. Two. Scotland does have the highest income tax in the UK . Ooffft believing what the Tories tell you know ? Lol " I pay over £ 800 pounds per year more than someone in the RUK. Making Scotland the highest taxed part of the UK. Fact. My council tax is going up 3 % in March. As will many other paces in the UK. Fact So how are the Tories lying ??? | |||
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"Remember when unionists were spinning the whole "Scotland is gonna be the highest taxed part of the UK " Oh look here "Council tax hikes planned 'across England" Oops was i not suppose to say this ? Just keep up with lies lol This person who wrote this on social says what we are all thinking lol "Bad news for those on £60K+ who hoped to leave Scotland, "the highest taxed place in the UK," to avoid losing out on that "skiing holiday that Sturgeon took from them" I don't ski !!!!! Ah right just putting money into off shore accounts then ? Hehehe thats banter btw " I am too busy funding brexit and Teresa may and bo jo for that  | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax " Is this more Tory lies ??? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ???" wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings" We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset " how much do you pay | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste" Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ?? | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ??" Not WE I I changed the thread threads can go in any direction they take off on | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay" It's £50 a year here in Dorset | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ??" You were the one that didnt think it was true i gave you a linking proving the Tories are wanting people to pay for a permit | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay It's £50 a year here in Dorset" Bob is that £50 per bin or for 2 bins | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay" £50 per year | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay It's £50 a year here in Dorset Bob is that £50 per bin or for 2 bins" one bin and it's optional if you have it of course. | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ?? You were the one that didnt think it was true i gave you a linking proving the Tories are wanting people to pay for a permit " I am sure it is true I was joking about the OP as everything's the Tories fault. he might have a point tho  | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay It's £50 a year here in Dorset Bob is that £50 per bin or for 2 bins one bin and it's optional if you have it of course." cheers, its £25 per bin here but expect that charge will go up over the years | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ?? You were the one that didnt think it was true i gave you a linking proving the Tories are wanting people to pay for a permit " So you have not explained how Scotland is not the highest taxed part of the UK !!! | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay £50 per year " £50 a year thats fucking nuts I dont think i even have to ask if that is a Tory council or not lol | |||
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"Yup Greenoakmale there is your Tories lies still willing to defend the Tories ? http://www.pkc.gov.uk/gardenwaste Your oringanal post was about Scotland NOT being the highest taxes place in the UK. I have given you the facts we have the highest income tax and just like the RUK the council tax is gonna rise. Have we know changed the thread to garden waste ?? You were the one that didnt think it was true i gave you a linking proving the Tories are wanting people to pay for a permit So you have not explained how Scotland is not the highest taxed part of the UK !!!" So that is one Tory council condemed now can you explain how Scotland is not the highest taxed part of the UK !! | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay £50 per year £50 a year thats fucking nuts I dont think i even have to ask if that is a Tory council or not lol " You can always take it to the tip for free.Down here you also pay £2.50 per rubble bag at the tip and household waste black bags are free.Yeah it's tory.Thecoumcil is n severe debt due to spending on children's services an adult services.All councils have the same issue. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax " build a compost bin.. all our soft green and vegetable peelings etc goes into ours, worms love it and after 18 month ish we have good compost for the garden.. our neighbours who have the green bin collection pay for it down here.. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax build a compost bin.. all our soft green and vegetable peelings etc goes into ours, worms love it and after 18 month ish we have good compost for the garden.. our neighbours who have the green bin collection pay for it down here.. " I have one out the back, the land out the back isn't kept as pristine as the front, I like the front drive and garden to be bowling green standard and ride on mower collects a lot. Back grass isn't picked up, sometimes mrs Black keeps her horse here which takes care of grass, but not the droppings from the horse | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority" Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland." Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags " So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then?" The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace "I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then?" Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky"And where did i accuse anyone of being a unionist ? I said clearly there are hardcore yoons voting Tory Please by all fucking means CLCC ahow me where i called "RareCask" a yoon ? Retract | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky
And where did i accuse anyone of being a unionist ?
I said clearly there are hardcore yoons voting Tory
Please by all fucking means CLCC ahow me where i called "RareCask" a yoon ?
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky"Pete Wishart is my MSP, I voted for him at last election I have attended many workshops with John Swinney and value his work IN saying that, I am disappointed with Pete Wishart, but even his worst is better than any other Scottish Party MP I may not vote at next election, time will tell, but I will always fight for Independence | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky
And where did i accuse anyone of being a unionist ?
I said clearly there are hardcore yoons voting Tory
Please by all fucking means CLCC ahow me where i called "RareCask" a yoon ?
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you said unionists vote Tory, the people of P&K voted Tory.... "Yes Yoons vote Tory am not wrong thats true But where in the hell did i claim Rarecask vited Tory or all of Perth and Kinross CLCC people are not daft they clearly is a majority in Perth voted Tory but not all Perth and Kinross did fucking duh!!!! I know your game must have rattled your cage that your sinking that low to accuse me of saying something i never once said lol Retract please | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky
And where did i accuse anyone of being a unionist ?
I said clearly there are hardcore yoons voting Tory
Please by all fucking means CLCC ahow me where i called "RareCask" a yoon ?
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you said unionists vote Tory, the people of P&K voted Tory....
Yes Yoons vote Tory am not wrong thats true
But where in the hell did i claim Rarecask vited Tory or all of Perth and Kinross CLCC people are not daft they clearly is a majority in Perth voted Tory but not all Perth and Kinross did fucking duh!!!!
I know your game must have rattled your cage that your sinking that low to accuse me of saying something i never once said lol
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? The concern is "What Next" . will we be charged for; Bridge Tolls? Prescriptions? University Education? Nursing Homes? council tax for elderly? electricity & heating for elderly? personal care in old age? Eye Tests? The list of "freebies" could go on and on, but paying for garden bin collection is a disgrace
I would have thought you would have been more upset at being labeled a unionist by Kinky
And where did i accuse anyone of being a unionist ?
I said clearly there are hardcore yoons voting Tory
Please by all fucking means CLCC ahow me where i called "RareCask" a yoon ?
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you said unionists vote Tory, the people of P&K voted Tory....
Yes Yoons vote Tory am not wrong thats true
But where in the hell did i claim Rarecask vited Tory or all of Perth and Kinross CLCC people are not daft they clearly is a majority in Perth voted Tory but not all Perth and Kinross did fucking duh!!!!
I know your game must have rattled your cage that your sinking that low to accuse me of saying something i never once said lol
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It really upsets you that the Tories keep getting elected in Scotland doesn't it? At every level of government there is in Scotland, Tories have been elected. Local, county, MSP, MP, MEP, Tories at each."Why would it upset me CLCC ? Strange thing to say when SNP control the majority of councils and are in government in Scotland and have a majority of MPs in Westminster lol What has the Tories down for Scotland again ? And just to add see the Scottish Tory branch MEP he was not elected haha nice try but he replaced the outgoing Tory come on you must have known that ? Lol | |||
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"It really upsets you that voters in Scotland chose the Tory party, because it destroys your myth that all Tories come from England, and that there wouldn't be any Tories in an independent Scotland. You might even end up with a Tory government in an independent Scotland! " Where you getting this from ? Again why does it upset me ? The SNP control the majority of councils they are in government in Scotland and have a majority of Mps in Westminster which part am i wrong about eh ? Wow you really are lost eh Yes Scotland may vote Tory if the exist in a independent Scotland my opinion very unlikely But the fact would be Scotland would get to decide that instead we in Scotland get Tory policies forced doon our throat because England voted Tory sorry but true | |||
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"It really upsets you that voters in Scotland chose the Tory party, because it destroys your myth that all Tories come from England, and that there wouldn't be any Tories in an independent Scotland. You might even end up with a Tory government in an independent Scotland! Where you getting this from ? Again why does it upset me ? The SNP control the majority of councils they are in government in Scotland and have a majority of Mps in Westminster which part am i wrong about eh ? Wow you really are lost eh Yes Scotland may vote Tory if the exist in a independent Scotland my opinion very unlikely But the fact would be Scotland would get to decide that instead we in Scotland get Tory policies forced doon our throat because England voted Tory sorry but true " The Tories wouldn't have a majority with Scotland's Tory MPs....... | |||
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"Again must be said but notice how CLCC wont answer these questions as he dont want to make his beloved Labour party look bad Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ?" I'm glad the Labour party are moderating Tory policies and not allowing Tories free rein  | |||
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"It really upsets you that voters in Scotland chose the Tory party, because it destroys your myth that all Tories come from England, and that there wouldn't be any Tories in an independent Scotland. You might even end up with a Tory government in an independent Scotland! Where you getting this from ? Again why does it upset me ? The SNP control the majority of councils they are in government in Scotland and have a majority of Mps in Westminster which part am i wrong about eh ? Wow you really are lost eh Yes Scotland may vote Tory if the exist in a independent Scotland my opinion very unlikely But the fact would be Scotland would get to decide that instead we in Scotland get Tory policies forced doon our throat because England voted Tory sorry but true The Tories wouldn't have a majority with Scotland's Tory MPs......." Your reaching now So tell me how many regions in England voted Tory again ? Its in the majority correct ? Oh and the Tories dont have a fucking majority in Westminster duh the bung they handed the DUP got the Tories over the line you are piss poor at this lol | |||
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"Debating politics with kinky is like being pitted against a no-legged man in an arse kicking contest. I'm gonna sit this one out, time to let someone else have a go." Now is that an admission of CLCC not willing to answer my questions lol CLCC must be that ashamed of Labour being in coalition with the Tories in Scotlands council's lol I have answered his but he won't answer me and he thinks am getting arse kicked yeah ok lol Bail out if you want lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags " And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol " You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!!" 70 percent of Scottish taxpayers will not pay more than they previously did, and 55 percent would pay less than elsewhere in Britain This will provide a small tax break to people earning up to £33,000 don't you think that is fair enough | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!!" Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! 70 percent of Scottish taxpayers will not pay more than they previously did, and 55 percent would pay less than elsewhere in Britain This will provide a small tax break to people earning up to £33,000 don't you think that is fair enough" No because the people that are gaining are 38 pence a week better off and it only covers 2000 pounds of income. At the other and of the scale some people are close to a thousand pounds worse off. Paying this extra money is not a problem to me if we see an improvement in Scotland but I would doubt it. As the op infered Scotland is not the highest taxed part of the UK I disagree. The snp manifesto stated that basic rate tax payers would not pay more but by increasing the basic rate from 20 to 21 percent they broke their manifesto promice so therefore Scotland is the highest taxed part of the UK. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!!" As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though" You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!! | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!!" I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol " I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!!" Yawn again nice try Now going back to 1979 shite cause you got caught out lying bout the SNP minjority government and how it works Tell did James callaghan blame Labour for losing ? Not find sad as fuck you have to lie ? | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland " What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that!" Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh " Apparently staying on subject is far to hard for you. Your lack of answer to my observation and change of subject suggest YOU agree the SNP will suffer with support and you are to scared to admit it! | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh Apparently staying on subject is far to hard for you. Your lack of answer to my observation and change of subject suggest YOU agree the SNP will suffer with support and you are to scared to admit it!" Apparently Answers questions is too haed for you lol I will answer yous the SNP may form a new party in an independent Scotland they may keep the current name and fight to be elected in an independent Scotland there you go answered | |||
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh Apparently staying on subject is far to hard for you. Your lack of answer to my observation and change of subject suggest YOU agree the SNP will suffer with support and you are to scared to admit it!"
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh Apparently staying on subject is far to hard for you. Your lack of answer to my observation and change of subject suggest YOU agree the SNP will suffer with support and you are to scared to admit it!
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"It would be interesting if Scotland went independent. The SNP are a party which wants Independence for Scotland just like UKIP wanted independence from the EU for the UK. Now that the UK are leaving the EU UKIP support has dropped off. What will happen to the SNP if Scotland leaves the UK? Maybe the same will happen to the SNP! Maybe just maybe there will be either a labour or Tory government in charge of a Independent Scotland!! I will take a wild guess you are a EU leave voter wanting to take back control and wand the UK to be independent so why is it then you are keen to deny Scotland its independence ? Keen to think its ok to rule over Scotland What has reply got to do with my post? Stop keep changing the subject with your replies. I made a comparison with UKIP and the SNP. Try discussing that! Aww questions too hard for you lol please try eh Apparently staying on subject is far to hard for you. Your lack of answer to my observation and change of subject suggest YOU agree the SNP will suffer with support and you are to scared to admit it!
You are not the only one who has noticed that Kinky won't answer questions!
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!!" The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!! Yawn again nice try Now going back to 1979 shite cause you got caught out lying bout the SNP minjority government and how it works Tell did James callaghan blame Labour for losing ? Not find sad as fuck you have to lie ? " Everyone knows how a minority government works but acoarding to you the Tories are the scum of the earth but the snp did not mind working with them !!!! When the snp brought down the Labour goverment it does not matter when it was they still did a cosy deal with your hated Tories. FACT | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's "Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!! Yawn again nice try Now going back to 1979 shite cause you got caught out lying bout the SNP minjority government and how it works Tell did James callaghan blame Labour for losing ? Not find sad as fuck you have to lie ? Everyone knows how a minority government works but acoarding to you the Tories are the scum of the earth but the snp did not mind working with them !!!! When the snp brought down the Labour goverment it does not matter when it was they still did a cosy deal with your hated Tories. FACT " Ok so back in 2007 the SNP minjority government had to build consensus with everyone correct ? So why make it out like your trying to say it was only the Tories eh Did James Callaghan blame his own Labour party for losing in 1979? Do Labour voters ever blame Labour for their own failings ? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!! Yawn again nice try Now going back to 1979 shite cause you got caught out lying bout the SNP minjority government and how it works Tell did James callaghan blame Labour for losing ? Not find sad as fuck you have to lie ? Everyone knows how a minority government works but acoarding to you the Tories are the scum of the earth but the snp did not mind working with them !!!! When the snp brought down the Labour goverment it does not matter when it was they still did a cosy deal with your hated Tories. FACT Ok so back in 2007 the SNP minjority government had to build consensus with everyone correct ? So why make it out like your trying to say it was only the Tories eh Did James Callaghan blame his own Labour party for losing in 1979? Do Labour voters ever blame Labour for their own failings ? " We do blame parties that back stab us to let Tories in !!! The snp budget only for passed because Anable Goldie insisted on the snp hiring more cops it was not cross party consensus it was a deal with your hated Tories !!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags And the snp had to rely on Tory support when they were a minority government in Scotland but you conviently forget that kinky !!! Someone clearly doesnt know how a minority government works lol I like how you try to mislead people by saying only the Tories but now try telling people that in a minority government that the government will find on consensus with all parties / branch offices lol Nice try though You slate the Tories but the snp got into bed with them !!! And remember it was the snp/ tartan Tories that voted to bring down the Labour government to let Thatcher in !!!! Yawn again nice try Now going back to 1979 shite cause you got caught out lying bout the SNP minjority government and how it works Tell did James callaghan blame Labour for losing ? Not find sad as fuck you have to lie ? Everyone knows how a minority government works but acoarding to you the Tories are the scum of the earth but the snp did not mind working with them !!!! When the snp brought down the Labour goverment it does not matter when it was they still did a cosy deal with your hated Tories. FACT Ok so back in 2007 the SNP minjority government had to build consensus with everyone correct ? So why make it out like your trying to say it was only the Tories eh Did James Callaghan blame his own Labour party for losing in 1979? Do Labour voters ever blame Labour for their own failings ? We do blame parties that back stab us to let Tories in !!! The snp budget only for passed because Anable Goldie insisted on the snp hiring more cops it was not cross party consensus it was a deal with your hated Tories !!!" Did James Callaghan blame his own Labour party for losing in 1979? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!!" Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!"If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ?" Nope and no one. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one. "Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?"It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too. "And that goes against the Scotland act You really are starting to sound very anti Scotland and jumping for joy that Westminster rules over other countries in the UK its sick! Do you hate Scotland that much i see that wee at the bery end when you said Westminster have power to scrap Holyrood like you love that wee idea | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ?" That is the way it was set up and I have said that previously but you stated it was only to keep the snp out of power !!!! | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset " Same here in Halton-Chesire | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more? "As I stated before if it is a single earner with a spouse and two children it is not that much. Seems jealously has crept into this. The reason the starting rate was raised in the RUK was because people earning 43000 pounds should not have been paying it in the first place but was caused by fiscal drag. Tax can't be collected twice so other areas of the economy will suffer along with the tax take. As the starting rate has not gone up more Scottish people will be paying it on a modest but not rich income. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
And that goes against the Scotland act
You really are starting to sound very anti Scotland and jumping for joy that Westminster rules over other countries in the UK its sick!
Do you hate Scotland that much i see that wee at the bery end when you said Westminster have power to scrap Holyrood like you love that wee idea "No Kinky, again, not anti Scottish, all laws, can be repealed by a simple majority in parliament. The fact that this includes the the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly and NI Assembly obviously deeply hurts you, yet it is a fundamental part of our constitutional arrangements. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too. "Sorry but this is completely wrong. Donald Dewar proposed the formation of the Scottish Executive ( later changed by the snp to government ) and it was planned that party's would work in consensus with each other. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more? "A few pennies Try up to one thousand pounds !!! | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay £50 per year £50 a year thats fucking nuts I dont think i even have to ask if that is a Tory council or not lol " It's about that here in Halton too and it's solid Labour here. The fact is is that councils need to raise more money locally and will use any means that can to do so whether they're Labour, Tory, LibDem or Nationalist. There is a legitimate argument to blame the Tories over the whole policy of decreasing the central grant and making councils have to raise more locally but, unless you're willing to see even bigger cuts in local services, there's no legitimate argument for or against any one party nationality as to how they actually raise that money. Each council goes about it in the way they think best and mostly go about it in pretty much the same way whether they're Labour, Tory or anything else. | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay £50 per year £50 a year thats fucking nuts I dont think i even have to ask if that is a Tory council or not lol It's about that here in Halton too and it's solid Labour here. The fact is is that councils need to raise more money locally and will use any means that can to do so whether they're Labour, Tory, LibDem or Nationalist. There is a legitimate argument to blame the Tories over the whole policy of decreasing the central grant and making councils have to raise more locally but, unless you're willing to see even bigger cuts in local services, there's no legitimate argument for or against any one party nationality as to how they actually raise that money. Each council goes about it in the way they think best and mostly go about it in pretty much the same way whether they're Labour, Tory or anything else." The problem is there is a cost to everything! In these day's of austerity we have to pay for every service we want or need. Nothing comes free. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
Sorry but this is completely wrong.
Donald Dewar proposed the formation of the Scottish Executive ( later changed by the snp to government ) and it was planned that party's would work in consensus with each other."See case and point those outside of Scotland seem to think they know better than people living in Scotland Btw Greenoakmale meet CLCC fellow Labour voter that didnt even know that lol So CLCC you still think your right ? | |||
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"I think a lot of lay-by bins will be full of grass and hedge cuttings We have had to pay for garden waste bins for the last 5 years in Dorset how much do you pay £50 per year £50 a year thats fucking nuts I dont think i even have to ask if that is a Tory council or not lol It's about that here in Halton too and it's solid Labour here. The fact is is that councils need to raise more money locally and will use any means that can to do so whether they're Labour, Tory, LibDem or Nationalist. There is a legitimate argument to blame the Tories over the whole policy of decreasing the central grant and making councils have to raise more locally but, unless you're willing to see even bigger cuts in local services, there's no legitimate argument for or against any one party nationality as to how they actually raise that money. Each council goes about it in the way they think best and mostly go about it in pretty much the same way whether they're Labour, Tory or anything else. The problem is there is a cost to everything! In these day's of austerity we have to pay for every service we want or need. Nothing comes free." | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
Sorry but this is completely wrong.
Donald Dewar proposed the formation of the Scottish Executive ( later changed by the snp to government ) and it was planned that party's would work in consensus with each other.
See case and point those outside of Scotland seem to think they know better than people living in Scotland
Btw Greenoakmale meet CLCC fellow Labour voter that didnt even know that lol
So CLCC you still think your right ? "You think the MSPs aren't elected!
Has there ever been a Scottish Parliament where one party got more than 50% of the seats? Yes. Boom! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!"pmsl so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too. "CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen"Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible. "as I say, it will NEVER Happen Never. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible. "And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries The UK verison of nazi Germany Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007 Doing it though would be a big mistake | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh"No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it. | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it."what if . lets just say, what if; . your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them they still better or worse off, living in Scotland? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake "It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK. I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer."The demeaning piss again No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007? "Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007. "Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ? Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?"Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen. I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme."So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ? You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority" Welcome to the club. We've been having to pay for garden waste to be collected for the past year.... and this isn't a Tory council!! | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money "It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes. I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since. I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate. Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK. That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything. "And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern. We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol "You have just made up those last 2 paragraphs. You will have exactly the same issues in an independent Scotland. Just swap out the place names. A local area will say that Hollyrood is a corrupt shithole, and why should they get to decide what powers the regions, or councils have? Why should Hollyrood hold the purse strings etc. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
You have just made up those last 2 paragraphs.
You will have exactly the same issues in an independent Scotland. Just swap out the place names. A local area will say that Hollyrood is a corrupt shithole, and why should they get to decide what powers the regions, or councils have? Why should Hollyrood hold the purse strings etc. "Lol wee power trip CLCC Why should Westminster hold the purse strings for Scotland we didnt for scumbags into government I know you what you say but but but Scotland voted 13 Scottish Tory branch office mps but here is the thing Scotland voted and send a majority of SNP mps to Westminster We dont need scumbags telling our country what powers we can have or what money we are allowed in a budget Lets get it right Westminster are shite feart to lose Scotland and Scotland money its got fuck all to do with aww Scotland you need us to help you survive...... fuck off that bullshit Westminster need Scotland we do not need Westminster shove that place right up its ass Oh btw your confusing regions with a country lmao But then again you think England is a mere fucking region i would be embassassed if i were you not even proud of your own country in England that you have to call it a wee region lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
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lets just say, what if;
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your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?"I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!! Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more. As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in2007?"As far as I know no one has threatened to scrap SG !! | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol "I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG."Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol "So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!  | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!! "Where did i say that ? Now how about answering my questions eh lol Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?"Not being a Unionist I have no idea !!!! So it is only a few people on FB that offend you not any kind of political movement! ! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich."That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland, Look at a few advantages; #Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more # Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments #better health service #Free Personal Care for our Elderly #more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population) #more midwifes #more health visitors #more doctors #more dentists #did I say FREE Dentil care then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls, cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life . really, we could go on and on . and fact is the weather is getting much better too . so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
"on top of what I said above; The Scottish Conservatives have set out details of their plans to introduce a graduate contribution and bring back prescription charges. Tory leader Ruth Davidson was quizzed on the policies stating she would introduce a graduate charge of about £6,000 for a four-year degree and "phase in" prescription charges up to "about £8". The Tories said a "modest" £1,500 for each year of study would be payable by students starting the academic year 2017/18, in the April after they graduate, when they start earning £20,000 or more. It would raise £100 million by the end of the next parliament, the party said. Exemptions would include part-time, postgraduate, HND, HNC and teacher-training students, those assessed as an 'independent' student on the first day of the first academic year of their course and students eligible for the disabled students' allowance. The contribution could either be paid in full or through an income-contingent loan, the party said. Prescription charges would be phased in, rising from £5 in 2017/18 to £8 in 2021/22 under Tory plans but then, the people of Scotland said "go fuck yourself Ruth" | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?"No one is talking about a threat to scrap Holyrood now accept you. CCLC is right however. Westminster is sovereign and legally could do this. I doubt it ever would but it could. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!! "A few swivel eyed yoons hidden in some dark corner of the internet that you properly couldn't find with out specifically looking for them and even then property still not find. But it's enough for Kinky to go all paranoid about and make out that there's some massive Unionist conspiracy to do Scotland down. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?"The same place they are now; nowhere! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
"So again most of these things are not free they are paid for higher taxation by the squeezed middle. This is a country that already spends more than England. Soon the whole impact will be felt as spending and therefore taxation will fall in Scotland. Why not take a serious attempt at growing the economy therefore increasing the tax base that way ?? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
on top of what I said above;
The Scottish Conservatives have set out details of their plans to introduce a graduate contribution and bring back prescription charges.
Tory leader Ruth Davidson was quizzed on the policies stating she would introduce a graduate charge of about £6,000 for a four-year degree and "phase in" prescription charges up to "about £8".
The Tories said a "modest" £1,500 for each year of study would be payable by students starting the academic year 2017/18, in the April after they graduate, when they start earning £20,000 or more.
It would raise £100 million by the end of the next parliament, the party said.
Exemptions would include part-time, postgraduate, HND, HNC and teacher-training students, those assessed as an 'independent' student on the first day of the first academic year of their course and students eligible for the disabled students' allowance.
The contribution could either be paid in full or through an income-contingent loan, the party said.
Prescription charges would be phased in, rising from £5 in 2017/18 to £8 in 2021/22 under Tory plans
but then, the people of Scotland said "go fuck yourself Ruth""I believe in prescription charges. Under the old system the poor and retired did not pay. I believe the charge should be a max of five pounds and no more for those that can aford it only. This is to stop the I pay my taxes therefore I am going to the doc for my free stuff rather than buying over the counter. We need to think seriously about what the NHS should and can provide. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?
The same place they are now; nowhere!"So your saying before SNP took office in 2007 there was no talk about scrapping Holyrood ? Unionists spiting out the dummy tit lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
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and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
on top of what I said above;
The Scottish Conservatives have set out details of their plans to introduce a graduate contribution and bring back prescription charges.
Tory leader Ruth Davidson was quizzed on the policies stating she would introduce a graduate charge of about £6,000 for a four-year degree and "phase in" prescription charges up to "about £8".
The Tories said a "modest" £1,500 for each year of study would be payable by students starting the academic year 2017/18, in the April after they graduate, when they start earning £20,000 or more.
It would raise £100 million by the end of the next parliament, the party said.
Exemptions would include part-time, postgraduate, HND, HNC and teacher-training students, those assessed as an 'independent' student on the first day of the first academic year of their course and students eligible for the disabled students' allowance.
The contribution could either be paid in full or through an income-contingent loan, the party said.
Prescription charges would be phased in, rising from £5 in 2017/18 to £8 in 2021/22 under Tory plans
but then, the people of Scotland said "go fuck yourself Ruth"
I believe in prescription charges.
Under the old system the poor and retired did not pay.
I believe the charge should be a max of five pounds and no more for those that can aford it only.
This is to stop the
I pay my taxes therefore I am going to the doc for my free stuff rather than buying over the counter.
We need to think seriously about what the NHS should and can provide."So you want people to pay for their prescription when their illness is not their fault very sick these unionists lol | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?
The same place they are now; nowhere!
So your saying before SNP took office in 2007 there was no talk about scrapping Holyrood ?
Unionists spiting out the dummy tit lol "I'm saying that I personally have not heard any unionists calling for the scraping of Holyrood or the Scottish Government either before 2007 or after. I'm sure if anyone searched around hard enough for long enough on the internet you can find someone saying anything. Maybe you could provide a few links to these claims of yours so that we can all judge there credibility for our selves. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?
The same place they are now; nowhere!
So your saying before SNP took office in 2007 there was no talk about scrapping Holyrood ?
Unionists spiting out the dummy tit lol
I'm saying that I personally have not heard any unionists calling for the scraping of Holyrood or the Scottish Government either before 2007 or after. I'm sure if anyone searched around hard enough for long enough on the internet you can find someone saying anything. Maybe you could provide a few links to these claims of yours so that we can all judge there credibility for our selves."Me ? How about you go about social media and do your own homework lol | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?
The same place they are now; nowhere!
So your saying before SNP took office in 2007 there was no talk about scrapping Holyrood ?
Unionists spiting out the dummy tit lol
I'm saying that I personally have not heard any unionists calling for the scraping of Holyrood or the Scottish Government either before 2007 or after. I'm sure if anyone searched around hard enough for long enough on the internet you can find someone saying anything. Maybe you could provide a few links to these claims of yours so that we can all judge there credibility for our selves.
Me ? How about you go about social media and do your own homework lol "I'm not going to go searching the internet for some fringe view posted by a nutter. You say unionist are saying they want the Scottish Government and Holyrood scraped, I'm asking you to show us your proof that that is the case because, as a Unionist, I've never heard any say that. | |||
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"Kinky you have changed you tune a bit as in another forum thread you were claiming the way the Scottish parliment was sent up was soley to keep the snp out !!!! Now you recognise the way the parliment is supposed to function by forming concensus !!!! Was Holyrood set up so that no party / brach office would gain a overall majority ? Who designed it that way ? Nope and no one.
Yup as i thought CLCC knows bugger all about Scotland lol
So CLCC you think In Holyrood is was not set up in mind for Parties / branch offices to work together instead of one party getting a overall majority ? Lol
Ah right so Holyrood just appeared from no where ?
It was not a deliberate intention to make the Scottish Parliament only capable of forming coalitions. The Scottish Parliament was created by the Westminster Parliament, and can be dissolved by the Westminster Parliament too.
CLCC, you are aware that would Never Happen
Of course, it's highly unlikely, I'm just pointing out that it is constitutionally possible.
And you enjoy it knowing Westminster can rule over other countries
The UK verison of nazi Germany
Threaten to take away a parilament when it feels like why because it doesnt like the fact Scotland doesnt vote unionist branch offices lol
Funny how no one ever said Holyrood could be scrapped before SNP took office in 2007
Doing it though would be a big mistake
It's always been possible to scrap it, regardless of who is in power. It's not Nazi Germany, it's following the constitutional arrangements of the UK.
I do enjoy understanding what I am talking about, you should try it sometime. lifetime learning is important. I have offered to support you with this by providing you with some textbooks explaining the constitutional arrangements of the UK, however you have declined this assistance. You can consider it a standing offer.
The demeaning piss again
No see those books they can go where the sun dont shine lol
Those books cant be working for you if you didnt know Holyrood was designed so their was no overall majority and you even had to be schooled by a fellow Labour voter lol
Tell me something was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Accept there was an overall majority in 2011 .
It's not a threat, it's just a fact. Parliament was sovereign before 2007.
Yes that there was back in 2011 and just to rub it in it was a SNP majority lol
But Holyrood was designed not to have an overall majority Greenoakmale even had to point this out to you i suppose he is wrong and you know better eh ?
Was the threat to scrap Holyrood ever talked about before SNP took office in 2007?
Sorry, that was meant to be except, not accept. However, seeing as in the past a party has indeed had an overall majority, it proves you are incorrect in claiming that it can't happen.
I haven't seen anyone threaten to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either pre or post 2007, however, Parliament has always had that power, owing to the fact that Parliament is sovereign and supreme.
So you accuse Greenoakmale of being wrong then ? Lol
Are you saying no unionist ever has said Holyrood should be scrapped ? Was it talk about before SNP took office ?
You seem to be enjoying telling people that Westminster has power to scrap a devolved parilament
Wee power trip eh CLCC that would be that anti Scottish shit slipping back in eh
I get it your afraid to lose Scotlands money
It is self evident that a majority cam be obtained in the Scottish Parliament as it has already happened. Greenoakmale can make of that what he wishes.
I am not saying that no one has ever spoken about the Scottish Parliament being scrapped, I'm not omnipotent and cannot listen to every conversation around the world. I will say however, that to my knowledge, no mainstream party has put in their manifesto to scrap the Scottish Parliament, either before 2007, or since.
I enjoy people learning about politics, British politics in particular. I wish we had a more politically literate and engaged electorate.
Parliament in the UK is sovereign and supreme. That means parliament can pretty much do what it wants. Parliament can dissolve the devolved institutions, it can make driving a car illegal, it can raise taxes to 100%, it can outlaw the Daily Mail or the Guardian, it can make French the official language of the state, it could legalise drugs and firearms, it could turn off the internet in the UK.
That's the way it works. You birch and whine about it, but that doesn't change anything.
And this is why people in Scotland do not want your stinky Westminster rule shove it
Again just pointing something out indeoendence is not all about money its about the right to self govern.
We in Scotland do not want to be told what we can have in powers or what money we can have back
We do not need the corrupt shit hole scumbag place called Westminster
So before SNP took office no one was talking about scrapping Holyrood before 2007 thats very telling that unionists cant accept the fact people in Scotland have elected the SNP
Yet after the SNP are elected then talk of Holyrood getting scrapped starts from unionists to daft to even think they can elect a unionist branch oh wait no fucker trusts the branch offices in Scotland to govern lol
I would be very interested in hearing what unionist organisations or party's have talked about scrapping the SG.
Are you know saying you have never ever heard a unionist say Holyrood should be scrapped ? You on social media have you not seen the hardcore Yoons say this ? Where have you been ? lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ? lmao
Bat shit crazy yoons funny and daft as fuck lol
So there is not any kind of political movement in or out of Scotland wishing to scrap the SG just some people you don't like !!!
Where did i say that ?
Now how about answering my questions eh lol
Where were all these unionist voices before 2007 saying for Holyrood to be scrapped ?
The same place they are now; nowhere!
So your saying before SNP took office in 2007 there was no talk about scrapping Holyrood ?
Unionists spiting out the dummy tit lol
I'm saying that I personally have not heard any unionists calling for the scraping of Holyrood or the Scottish Government either before 2007 or after. I'm sure if anyone searched around hard enough for long enough on the internet you can find someone saying anything. Maybe you could provide a few links to these claims of yours so that we can all judge there credibility for our selves.
Me ? How about you go about social media and do your own homework lol
I'm not going to go searching the internet for some fringe view posted by a nutter. You say unionist are saying they want the Scottish Government and Holyrood scraped, I'm asking you to show us your proof that that is the case because, as a Unionist, I've never heard any say that."You have the internet you do it. Ah right the blind man act so if i dont see it then it must not exist open your eyes lol See this is why unionists are pish poor as you dont wanna look up things in your own not my fault lol | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
So again most of these things are not free they are paid for higher taxation by the squeezed middle.
This is a country that already spends more than England.
Soon the whole impact will be felt as spending and therefore taxation will fall in Scotland.
Why not take a serious attempt at growing the economy therefore increasing the tax base that way ??"? You are aware all these things were in place before higher taxation ? | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
So again most of these things are not free they are paid for higher taxation by the squeezed middle.
This is a country that already spends more than England.
Soon the whole impact will be felt as spending and therefore taxation will fall in Scotland.
Why not take a serious attempt at growing the economy therefore increasing the tax base that way ??
?
You are aware all these things were in place before higher taxation
?
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
on top of what I said above;
The Scottish Conservatives have set out details of their plans to introduce a graduate contribution and bring back prescription charges.
Tory leader Ruth Davidson was quizzed on the policies stating she would introduce a graduate charge of about £6,000 for a four-year degree and "phase in" prescription charges up to "about £8".
The Tories said a "modest" £1,500 for each year of study would be payable by students starting the academic year 2017/18, in the April after they graduate, when they start earning £20,000 or more.
It would raise £100 million by the end of the next parliament, the party said.
Exemptions would include part-time, postgraduate, HND, HNC and teacher-training students, those assessed as an 'independent' student on the first day of the first academic year of their course and students eligible for the disabled students' allowance.
The contribution could either be paid in full or through an income-contingent loan, the party said.
Prescription charges would be phased in, rising from £5 in 2017/18 to £8 in 2021/22 under Tory plans
but then, the people of Scotland said "go fuck yourself Ruth"
I believe in prescription charges.
Under the old system the poor and retired did not pay.
I believe the charge should be a max of five pounds and no more for those that can aford it only.
This is to stop the
I pay my taxes therefore I am going to the doc for my free stuff rather than buying over the counter.
We need to think seriously about what the NHS should and can provide.
So you want people to pay for their prescription when their illness is not their fault very sick these unionists lol "Again I am not a unionist! !! Ready my comment carefully and you will see sound reasons for charging for prescriptions! ! The people in Scotland that really need help would benefit !!! | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
So again most of these things are not free they are paid for higher taxation by the squeezed middle.
This is a country that already spends more than England.
Soon the whole impact will be felt as spending and therefore taxation will fall in Scotland.
Why not take a serious attempt at growing the economy therefore increasing the tax base that way ??
?
You are aware all these things were in place before higher taxation
?
"And the money for this FREE stuff is running out so next year back to the majic money tree !!!@ | |||
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"Just got a letter from Perth & Kinross council, they are saying from April I have to purchase a permit to have my garden bins emptied They are going to charge us annually for each bin we own for garden waste collection this is on top of what we already pay in council tax Is this more Tory lies ??? wish it was lies, its fact although P&K Council does have a tory majority Don't be silly, they couldn't possibly have a Tory majority. Kinky tells us no one votes Tory in Scotland. Hardcore yoons vote Tory Did you know CLCC there are Labour / Tory coalitions in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire councils ? Labour helped the Tories into councils in Scotland is that acceptable now ? I say Red Tory Blue Tory scumbags So would you say P&K is overrun with Unionists then? Excuse me are you asking me a question without answering my question ? Really must note this down the next time i get accused of not answering questions just to compare the double standards going on in here lol You have not answered my question how is Scotland not the highest taxed part of the UK and I have asked more than once !!!! As RareCask said 70% of Scottish tax payers will not pay more than they previously did. Its like you dont want the well off to pay abit more tax prob think its better for them to hide it in offshore accounts lol I doubt many people earning 43000 pounds have off shore accounts. A single worker with a spouse and two children are not rich !!!! The Higher wage bracket earners will be effected If a higher wage earners move back down South because of this, then fool on them, think what they have to do #get home owners report #put house up for sale #pay estate agent for sale of home #pay solicitor for sale of home #pay removals van for contents taken down south #buy new home down south (higher cost) #pay stamp duty #new insurances #new carpets etc oh, and find a new job
there are legal ways to avoid paying high tax which can be very beneficial
I have already explained how you can get 40% tax back when paying into pension AVC's
Tax avoidance on your pension does not pay your grocery bill right now !!!!
If a higher wage earner cannot afford to pay their grocery bill perhaps they should cut down on champagne, sky tv, mobile phones etc
are you suggesting they move back down South because they pay a few pennies more?
A few pennies
Try up to one thousand pounds !!!
pmsl
so you would up sticks and head to England with all expense involved for a few pennies
keep on talking, I enjoy a laugh
No I am pointing out the un fairness of the Scottish system and the fact the snp will have to damage the Scottish economy further by going back to the money tree again next year and dragging even more ppl into the higher rate that should not be in it.
what if
.
lets just say, what if;
.
your single worker with a spouse and two children, their kids just starting a 4 year degree, both of them
they still better or worse off, living in Scotland?
I do understand and agree with you however I think you are highlighting that nothing is free !!!
Scotland recieves more per head than England but still taxes ppl more.
As I stated before the starting rate is catching more and more modest earners not the super rich.
That's good agree because I do not think the slightly higher tax would deter any higher earner from coming to Scotland or indeed moving from Scotland,
Look at a few advantages;
#Free University education (saving around £9000 per year or more
# Free prescriptions & same day doctor appointments
#better health service
#Free Personal Care for our Elderly
#more nurses (on average 11 per 1000 population)
#more midwifes
#more health visitors
#more doctors
#more dentists
#did I say FREE Dentil care
then you get onto things such as zero bridge tolls,
cheaper better quality housing, greater scenery, walks, outdoor life
.
really, we could go on and on
.
and fact is the weather is getting much better too
.
so what has Scotland got to encourage others to move here, Nothing, nothing at all, its our little secret that we don't want to share with others, as they say on Isle of Skye - please keep away, please don't visit
So again most of these things are not free they are paid for higher taxation by the squeezed middle.
This is a country that already spends more than England.
Soon the whole impact will be felt as spending and therefore taxation will fall in Scotland.
Why not take a serious attempt at growing the economy therefore increasing the tax base that way ??
?
You are aware all these things were in place before higher taxation
?
Were they in place before the Barnett Formula, or have English tax payers always subsidised them?"Yes that were in place and yes the ruk through the Barrnet formula gives extra money for it and we still need higher taxation !@@@ | |||
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