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"It matches my assessment that those areas who voted strongly to go would probably get to feel more pain than others. " Usual negative rubbish | |||
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"It matches my assessment that those areas who voted strongly to go would probably get to feel more pain than others. Usual negative rubbish" Spoken like a true Brexit Baathist | |||
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"The Scottish government were right on their brexit impact papers after all Scotland face being worse of in a hard UK brexit Yet people in here want us to do nothing about it just suffer it no chance!!!" Maybe speak to the people up there who voted to leave then? Like the rest already done so if they change their mind and put pressure on that may have an effect.. | |||
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"The Scottish government were right on their brexit impact papers after all Scotland face being worse of in a hard UK brexit Yet people in here want us to do nothing about it just suffer it no chance!!!" Going down the same old tired argument that people in here want bla bla is tiresome Most in here want what's best for all and even if in here they all agree with everything you say it means fuck all in reality.. The issue of and for Scotland and its future path be that in or out of the union lies not in here but where you are.. | |||
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"The Scottish government were right on their brexit impact papers after all Scotland face being worse of in a hard UK brexit Yet people in here want us to do nothing about it just suffer it no chance!!!" Scotland 9 percent North East 16 Midlands 11 Why not unite with us and oppose a UK brexit rather than want us to suffer ? | |||
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"As a whole we vote for our prejudices and get what we deserve... For the last 40 years or so we have voted for short term greed because: "Fuck you! I'm alright." and we have got multiple governments who have fucked us and done alright themselves in the process... But don't worry about this little bit of bad news it is only going to hurt the people who live in the post industrial wastelands of the midlands and north. Those in the southern idylls of the Home Counties, Cotswolds and capital commuter corridors, where DD and the rest of the smug millionaires who are running the country live, will do OK out of brexit."  can't agree more | |||
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"It wasn't a regional referendum though. It was a UK referendum." Scotland is a counrty first off And Scotland is a whole didnt vote to leave the EU So if England are not going to change its means on leaving the EU and the UK government press on with a hard brexit what is it people think Scotland should do ? Are people really saying do nothing and just suffer it ? | |||
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"It wasn't a regional referendum though. It was a UK referendum." This.. | |||
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"The difference between the two referenda - Scotland and the EU - is that Scotland heeded the warnings of economic damage caused by dissolving one union, whereas the English and Welsh did not heed the warnings about dissolving another." Very true... And just to add that whilst Brexiters are keen to see off imaginary people in another country who they think are "ruling" them. They are happy that the English are ruling the United Kingdom. | |||
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"The difference between the two referenda - Scotland and the EU - is that Scotland heeded the warnings of economic damage caused by dissolving one union, whereas the English and Welsh did not heed the warnings about dissolving another. Very true... And just to add that whilst Brexiters are keen to see off imaginary people in another country who they think are "ruling" them. They are happy that the English are ruling the United Kingdom." Very good point The UK is suppose to be a union of countries to be equal and fair nit for one country to rule over others Scotland and Wales and NI must get equal say in this No one wants to live in a dictatorship but that is the way the UK is looking right now Independence for Scotland would come off the table if the UK government would respect Scotlands vote to remain part of the EU and find a way to either keep Scotland in the EU or at least stay in the single market and customs union The SNP have tried to compromise but the red line is if Scotland and the rest of the UK leave the single market and customs union then Scotland has every right to use the mandate it has for an independence referendum | |||
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"The difference between the two referenda - Scotland and the EU - is that Scotland heeded the warnings of economic damage caused by dissolving one union, whereas the English and Welsh did not heed the warnings about dissolving another. Very true... And just to add that whilst Brexiters are keen to see off imaginary people in another country who they think are "ruling" them. They are happy that the English are ruling the United Kingdom." this.. and by and large they are happy that one part of the legislature is not elected with a small number being there solely to do with one religion.. | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought!" not working too well for some of their people.. do they have quango's too..? | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought!" That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought! That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism." So CLCC what do you think Scotland should do if England doesnt change its mind on leaving the EU and the UK press on what a hard brexit ? | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum " Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy?" Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought! That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism." We don't believe in disetablishmenterianism I think you meant. Establishmentarian is to believe that the church should be part of the state Didestablishmentarian is to believe that the church should not be part of the state any more Antidisestablishmentarianism is to be opposed to the disestablishmentarian or, more simply put, to be opposed to the church no longer being a part of the state. | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought! That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. So CLCC what do you think Scotland should do if England doesnt change its mind on leaving the EU and the UK press on what a hard brexit ? " FFS that's not the current fight. The fight is to try and stop a hard BREXIT. After that fight is won or lost then we can decide what to do. | |||
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" That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. We don't believe in disetablishmenterianism I think you meant. Establishmentarian is to believe that the church should be part of the state Didestablishmentarian is to believe that the church should not be part of the state any more Antidisestablishmentarianism is to be opposed to the disestablishmentarian or, more simply put, to be opposed to the church no longer being a part of the state. " you got in a muddle ... let me help That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism = That's because we don't believe in opposition to the deprivation of the official status of the Church of England within the construct of the state. | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ?" You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.  | |||
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" That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. We don't believe in disetablishmenterianism I think you meant. Establishmentarian is to believe that the church should be part of the state Didestablishmentarian is to believe that the church should not be part of the state any more Antidisestablishmentarianism is to be opposed to the disestablishmentarian or, more simply put, to be opposed to the church no longer being a part of the state. you got in a muddle ... let me help That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism = That's because we don't believe in opposition to the deprivation of the official status of the Church of England within the construct of the state. "Thanks - I think | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after. "Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this "Bully for you then. Now leave those of us willing to fight and argue against BREXIT to get on with it. | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this "If Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK. Not sure how that helps Scotland at all!! | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this
If Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK.
Not sure how that helps Scotland at all!!"at least they'll be able to fuck things up their own way instead of the way that the english fuck things up | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this
If Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK.
Not sure how that helps Scotland at all!!"In your opinion thats not been confirmed the EU have on record said there should be no problem with Scotland being fast tracked into the EU not my fault if you are not listening We will all know soon enough and the UK government track record on lying its not looking good is it ? | |||
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"Seems like we're not going to be able to discuss the BREXIT impact assessments on this thread after all. Kinky just wants to discuss Scot's Infy rather than bring anything useful to the BREXIT debate. It's almost like he wants a hard BREXIT just to improve the chances of another Scot's Infy ref. Who'd have thunked it, Scot Nat's getting into bed with BREXITers and Eurosceptic Tories?" Aww am sorry Scotland not important to talk about ? No i dont want a hard brexit for the UK but as i keep saying sorry but am i hell waiting to see if England changes its mind | |||
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"The UK has something in common with Iran - the only two democracies in the world that reserve places in their legislatures for unelected religious mullahs. Quite a thought! That's because we don't believe in antidisestablishmentarianism. We don't believe in disetablishmenterianism I think you meant. Establishmentarian is to believe that the church should be part of the state Didestablishmentarian is to believe that the church should not be part of the state any more Antidisestablishmentarianism is to be opposed to the disestablishmentarian or, more simply put, to be opposed to the church no longer being a part of the state. " Yeah I did start think I had got my quadruple negatives mixed up after I wrote that post! To be honest, I mainly just wanted to type the word! | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this
If Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK.
Not sure how that helps Scotland at all!!
In your opinion thats not been confirmed the EU have on record said there should be no problem with Scotland being fast tracked into the EU not my fault if you are not listening
We will all know soon enough and the UK government track record on lying its not looking good is it ?"You can provide written evidence of that? Did you take notice of what went on in Greece last weekend? | |||
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"And if England does not change its mind and still wants to leave and the UK government press on with a hard brexit then what ? What do you then want Scotland to do ? Just do nothing and suffer being worse off in a UK hard brexit when Scotland didnt vite to leave the EU If this is what the final brexit deal is then people better get use to the fact Scotland will have a new independence referendum Fine, have your indy vote if there is a hard BREXIT but right now the best way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to fight with us to avoid a hard BRRXIT. Or is BREXIT just your excuse to push for Scot's Indy? Now the change in tone i do wonder why lol Again if England wont change its mind and its a hard brexit what do you think Scotland should then do ? You know my answer because I've answered your question many timed in your threads. This is a thread about UK BREXIT to which your contribution is meaningless so far. If you and the Scottish government want an Indy Ref after a hard BREXIT then have one. I'll fight that argument if we get there. Right now the fight and argument is about UK BRRXIT and in particular a hard BREXIT, that's what I'm arguing and fighting against now. If you don't want it either then add something useful to the argument and leave for Scot's Indy fight till after.
Am sorry if you dont like my answer but am i fuck waiting about hoping England changes its mind or the UK government change on a hard brexit as you know that might never happen and i do not want my country to suffer something we never voted for sorry but I live Scotland and Scotlands interestes come first and we can only hope England and Wales change its mind but i doubt it will
The mandate if for a independence referendum before the uk leaves the EU you know this
If Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK.
Not sure how that helps Scotland at all!!
In your opinion thats not been confirmed the EU have on record said there should be no problem with Scotland being fast tracked into the EU not my fault if you are not listening
We will all know soon enough and the UK government track record on lying its not looking good is it ?
You can provide written evidence of that?
Did you take notice of what went on in Greece last weekend?"Google it just type in " an independent Scotland being fast tracked into the EU i suppose they are all telling lies now ? I suppose the EU are all lying when they have said Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU eh ? The fact remains see when a unionist says if Scotland leaves the UK before the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will leave the EU before the rest of the UK its only their opinion only not fact we will know soon enough though | |||
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"This thread isn't about Scottish independence. " Oh so sorry is Scotland not importment enough for you i didnt its against the rules to even mention Scottish independence Fuck its really spooked yous eh lol | |||
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"If England and Wales declared themselves independent of the UK, Scotland and N Ireland become the UK and can revoke Article 50. Simples. "Then it wouldn't be a "United" Kingdom!  | |||
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"If England and Wales declared themselves independent of the UK, Scotland and N Ireland become the UK and can revoke Article 50. Simples.
Then it wouldn't be a "United" Kingdom! "It could be the United Kingdom of Little Britain  | |||
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"If England and Wales declared themselves independent of the UK, Scotland and N Ireland become the UK and can revoke Article 50. Simples.
Then it wouldn't be a "United" Kingdom!
It could be the United Kingdom of Little Britain
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"If England and Wales declared themselves independent of the UK, Scotland and N Ireland become the UK and can revoke Article 50. Simples.
Then it wouldn't be a "United" Kingdom! "It would. It would be ten United Kingdon of Scotland and Northern Ireland instead of the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i" To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. " Ok now that waffle is out the way i will keep pressing you Now that you know the Scottish government were right that Scotland faces being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit what do you suppose Scotland do to avoid this ? I know you shite answer is stand and fight with us but time and time i have asked and am not pussying about Say England are not for changing its mind on leaving the EU and its a hard brexit leaving bith the single market and customs union then what is it you suppose Scotland should do to avoid being worse off ? Its telling unionists have no answers therefore you admitting you are shrugging your shoulders and saying just accept being 12 billlion a year worse off Its stumped you on how to answer it and i can tell lol | |||
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It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government. "Lmao walked right into that haha Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country | |||
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"England would need a Government first
It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government.
Lmao walked right into that haha
Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country
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"England would need a Government first
It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government.
Lmao walked right into that haha
Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country
Are you saying Scotland wasn't a country before 1999? "Your the one that just claimed that it cant be a country if there is no government lol How embarrassing lol So if you use your logic Scotland has a government so it must be a country then You didnt half walk right into that Thats a red neck lol | |||
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"If England and Wales declared themselves independent of the UK, Scotland and N Ireland become the UK and can revoke Article 50. Simples.
Then it wouldn't be a "United" Kingdom!
It would. It would be ten United Kingdon of Scotland and Northern Ireland instead of the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
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"England would need a Government first
It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government.
Lmao walked right into that haha
Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country
Are you saying Scotland wasn't a country before 1999?
Your the one that just claimed that it cant be a country if there is no government lol
How embarrassing lol
So if you use your logic Scotland has a government so it must be a country then
You didnt half walk right into that
Thats a red neck lol"Right, yet again, not answering the question! Not having a government, means something isn't a country, but having a government, doesn't automatically make something a country either. Can you grasp that concept? It's a bit like all penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins. I never said that having a government makes something a country. Cambridgeshire has a government in the form of a county council, yet isn't a country | |||
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"England would need a Government first
It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government.
Lmao walked right into that haha
Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country
Are you saying Scotland wasn't a country before 1999?
Your the one that just claimed that it cant be a country if there is no government lol
How embarrassing lol
So if you use your logic Scotland has a government so it must be a country then
You didnt half walk right into that
Thats a red neck lol
Right, yet again, not answering the question!
Not having a government, means something isn't a country, but having a government, doesn't automatically make something a country either. Can you grasp that concept? It's a bit like all penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins. I never said that having a government makes something a country. Cambridgeshire has a government in the form of a county council, yet isn't a country
"Right you want me to answer At what point have i ever claimed Scotland is not a country eh ? I have said time and time again Scotland , England , Wales ,NI really countries Your the one that claimed it cannot be a country if it doesnt have a government I pointed out to you Scotland has a government so using your own logic against you then Scotland is a country then haha | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. Ok now that waffle is out the way i will keep pressing you Now that you know the Scottish government were right that Scotland faces being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit what do you suppose Scotland do to avoid this ? I know you shite answer is stand and fight with us but time and time i have asked and am not pussying about Say England are not for changing its mind on leaving the EU and its a hard brexit leaving bith the single market and customs union then what is it you suppose Scotland should do to avoid being worse off ? Its telling unionists have no answers therefore you admitting you are shrugging your shoulders and saying just accept being 12 billlion a year worse off Its stumped you on how to answer it and i can tell lol " Neither can you because your solution of having an Indy ref and leaving the UK is not deliverable before BREXIT even if having the actual vote happens before. So the only way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to avoid a hard BREXIT. Of course the other major flaw with your argument is that while Scotland leaving the the EU's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £12 billion a year impact analysis also shows that Scotland leaving the UK's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £40 billion. Giving the people of Scotland an escape rout out of a £12 billion loss which will cost them another £40 billion is not a solution at all. But hey, keep up the good work. I bet the BREXITers are loving you hijacking this thread rather than having to address the issues. | |||
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"England would need a Government first
It can't be a country if it doesn't have a government.
Lmao walked right into that haha
Scotland has a government so by your logic you are saying Scotland is a country
Are you saying Scotland wasn't a country before 1999?
Your the one that just claimed that it cant be a country if there is no government lol
How embarrassing lol
So if you use your logic Scotland has a government so it must be a country then
You didnt half walk right into that
Thats a red neck lol
Right, yet again, not answering the question!
Not having a government, means something isn't a country, but having a government, doesn't automatically make something a country either. Can you grasp that concept? It's a bit like all penguins are birds, but not all birds are penguins. I never said that having a government makes something a country. Cambridgeshire has a government in the form of a county council, yet isn't a country
Right you want me to answer
At what point have i ever claimed Scotland is not a country eh ? I have said time and time again Scotland , England , Wales ,NI really countries
Your the one that claimed it cannot be a country if it doesnt have a government
I pointed out to you Scotland has a government so using your own logic against you then Scotland is a country then haha "No, thats not my logic, that's you're misunderstanding of what I said. I said England can't be a country without a government. You then erroneously interpreted that to mean if there is a form of government, then it automatically is a country. Are you willing to give a definition of what characteristics are required to meet the definition of a country? | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. Ok now that waffle is out the way i will keep pressing you Now that you know the Scottish government were right that Scotland faces being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit what do you suppose Scotland do to avoid this ? I know you shite answer is stand and fight with us but time and time i have asked and am not pussying about Say England are not for changing its mind on leaving the EU and its a hard brexit leaving bith the single market and customs union then what is it you suppose Scotland should do to avoid being worse off ? Its telling unionists have no answers therefore you admitting you are shrugging your shoulders and saying just accept being 12 billlion a year worse off Its stumped you on how to answer it and i can tell lol Neither can you because your solution of having an Indy ref and leaving the UK is not deliverable before BREXIT even if having the actual vote happens before. So the only way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to avoid a hard BREXIT. Of course the other major flaw with your argument is that while Scotland leaving the the EU's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £12 billion a year impact analysis also shows that Scotland leaving the UK's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £40 billion. Giving the people of Scotland an escape rout out of a £12 billion loss which will cost them another £40 billion is not a solution at all. But hey, keep up the good work. I bet the BREXITers are loving you hijacking this thread rather than having to address the issues." So there we have it you have fuck all solution Where as me i am willing to hand it over to the Scottish people to decide our own future no doubt there will be some that agree with your 40 billion pish and would vote no it really doesnt bother me where as you seem to be happy to try and dictate terms of when Scotland will have a referendum on independence not upto you sorry but true The mandate Scotland is to have an independence referendum before the ulUK leaves the EU and the EU side seem to see no problem will an independent Scotland being fast tracked in the EU unless you thibk they are all lying ? Again there is no fucking set rules on here tou have to stick to what wach theead is about my god when did the UK become nazi Germany where we have to stick to what is being said lol If you dont like it dont reply i dont care really lol | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. Ok now that waffle is out the way i will keep pressing you Now that you know the Scottish government were right that Scotland faces being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit what do you suppose Scotland do to avoid this ? I know you shite answer is stand and fight with us but time and time i have asked and am not pussying about Say England are not for changing its mind on leaving the EU and its a hard brexit leaving bith the single market and customs union then what is it you suppose Scotland should do to avoid being worse off ? Its telling unionists have no answers therefore you admitting you are shrugging your shoulders and saying just accept being 12 billlion a year worse off Its stumped you on how to answer it and i can tell lol Neither can you because your solution of having an Indy ref and leaving the UK is not deliverable before BREXIT even if having the actual vote happens before. So the only way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to avoid a hard BREXIT. Of course the other major flaw with your argument is that while Scotland leaving the the EU's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £12 billion a year impact analysis also shows that Scotland leaving the UK's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £40 billion. Giving the people of Scotland an escape rout out of a £12 billion loss which will cost them another £40 billion is not a solution at all. But hey, keep up the good work. I bet the BREXITers are loving you hijacking this thread rather than having to address the issues. So there we have it you have fuck all solution Where as me i am willing to hand it over to the Scottish people to decide our own future no doubt there will be some that agree with your 40 billion pish and would vote no it really doesnt bother me where as you seem to be happy to try and dictate terms of when Scotland will have a referendum on independence not upto you sorry but true The mandate Scotland is to have an independence referendum before the ulUK leaves the EU and the EU side seem to see no problem will an independent Scotland being fast tracked in the EU unless you thibk they are all lying ? Again there is no fucking set rules on here tou have to stick to what wach theead is about my god when did the UK become nazi Germany where we have to stick to what is being said lol If you dont like it dont reply i dont care really lol " You don't have a solution, you have a fatally flawed argument. Independence is not deliverable in time and if it was, by the same experts and analysis that predicts the £12 billion loss to Scotland for BREXIT, would cost Scotland an additional £40 billion. You keep on banging on about a mandate for a second Scot's Indy ref; I've never said you don't have one. What I am saying is Scottish Independence, at an additional cost of £40 billion to Scotland, is not a solution to the BREXIT cost of £12 billion. So, if there is a hard BREXIT and Scotland is forced out of the Single market and/or customs union then have your referendum. I'm sure the people of Scotland will flock to the prospect of having an additional £40 billion loss put on them on top of the £12 bullion they will have had already. NOT! | |||
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"Right so " England can't be a country without a government" So by that logic Scotland is a country as it has a government lol Thats CLCC logic Me i say Scotland ,England Wales , Northern Ireland are all countries " Nope, I never said that, you're just making up shit. You are still unable to explain why you think the UK isn't a country, or why ESWNI are countries. You still can't give a definition. | |||
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"Oh btw Those people who accuse independence supporters of supporting independence saying it will damage Scotland are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland go fucking figure eh lol But yeah like i said i notice the sudden change in tone now lol And the fact people outside of Scotland trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have an independence referendum by aaying you will have it after the UK leaves the EU No no the legal democratic mandate fir an independence is to be before the UK leaves the EU you may not like it but thats democracy in action stop being anti democratic i To be frank it makes little difference if Scotland has an Indy ref 6 months before we leave or sometime after. It will take a lot longer than 2 years to negotiate the break up of the UK so I think whatever happens with BREXIT is going to happen to Scotland too. If Scotland then has a referendum and if it votes for independence this time then, by the time independence is actually delivered (at least 2 years but more likely 5 or more later) whatever BREXIT we have will have been done and Scotland, with its consent or not, will have done it with us. None of this is what I and many others want for Scotland or the UK but, realistically, if we have BREXIT and leave the Single Market and Customs Union there simply isn't enough time for a independence in Scotland to be implemented. Ok now that waffle is out the way i will keep pressing you Now that you know the Scottish government were right that Scotland faces being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit what do you suppose Scotland do to avoid this ? I know you shite answer is stand and fight with us but time and time i have asked and am not pussying about Say England are not for changing its mind on leaving the EU and its a hard brexit leaving bith the single market and customs union then what is it you suppose Scotland should do to avoid being worse off ? Its telling unionists have no answers therefore you admitting you are shrugging your shoulders and saying just accept being 12 billlion a year worse off Its stumped you on how to answer it and i can tell lol Neither can you because your solution of having an Indy ref and leaving the UK is not deliverable before BREXIT even if having the actual vote happens before. So the only way to avoid a hard SEXIT is to avoid a hard BREXIT. Of course the other major flaw with your argument is that while Scotland leaving the the EU's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £12 billion a year impact analysis also shows that Scotland leaving the UK's customs union and single market will cost Scotland £40 billion. Giving the people of Scotland an escape rout out of a £12 billion loss which will cost them another £40 billion is not a solution at all. But hey, keep up the good work. I bet the BREXITers are loving you hijacking this thread rather than having to address the issues. So there we have it you have fuck all solution Where as me i am willing to hand it over to the Scottish people to decide our own future no doubt there will be some that agree with your 40 billion pish and would vote no it really doesnt bother me where as you seem to be happy to try and dictate terms of when Scotland will have a referendum on independence not upto you sorry but true The mandate Scotland is to have an independence referendum before the ulUK leaves the EU and the EU side seem to see no problem will an independent Scotland being fast tracked in the EU unless you thibk they are all lying ? Again there is no fucking set rules on here tou have to stick to what wach theead is about my god when did the UK become nazi Germany where we have to stick to what is being said lol If you dont like it dont reply i dont care really lol You don't have a solution, you have a fatally flawed argument. Independence is not deliverable in time and if it was, by the same experts and analysis that predicts the £12 billion loss to Scotland for BREXIT, would cost Scotland an additional £40 billion. You keep on banging on about a mandate for a second Scot's Indy ref; I've never said you don't have one. What I am saying is Scottish Independence, at an additional cost of £40 billion to Scotland, is not a solution to the BREXIT cost of £12 billion. So, if there is a hard BREXIT and Scotland is forced out of the Single market and/or customs union then have your referendum. I'm sure the people of Scotland will flock to the prospect of having an additional £40 billion loss put on them on top of the £12 bullion they will have had already. NOT! " You dont have a solution thats what is comes down to My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. Like i said am sure their will be people in Scotland that will agree with you on the 40 billion piss and they will vote no but fact is it will be upto the people of Scotland There is that shite dribble doon your mouth again what dont you get. People outside of Scotland do NOT get to dictate terms when Scotland can have an independence referendum The legally democratic mandate is before the UK leaves the EU and then Scotland will have an independence referendum Is it not upto the people of Scotland to decide their own future now ? We are sick fed up of being told what powers and what we can and cant do Westminster can go fuck off! No more Westminster rule | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. " That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. | |||
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"Right so " England can't be a country without a government" So by that logic Scotland is a country as it has a government lol Thats CLCC logic Me i say Scotland ,England Wales , Northern Ireland are all countries Nope, I never said that, you're just making up shit. You are still unable to explain why you think the UK isn't a country, or why ESWNI are countries. You still can't give a definition. " Ok lets try this does Scitland have a government yes or no ? Answer to your question is because the UK is a fucking union of countries fucking hell lol Do you think the European Union is all one country ? I even pointed out on the UK Prime Minster website they say Scotland , England ,Wales and NI are countries within the UK So CLCC now doesnt agree with past and present PM's now lmao No wonder the UK is a fucking laughing stock with this logic lol Not my fault you are that ashamed to call England a country its embarrassing that you have pride in England i think its a beautiful country but clearly you dint its a wee region in your eyes | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. " In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future | |||
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"Right so " England can't be a country without a government" So by that logic Scotland is a country as it has a government lol Thats CLCC logic Me i say Scotland ,England Wales , Northern Ireland are all countries Nope, I never said that, you're just making up shit. You are still unable to explain why you think the UK isn't a country, or why ESWNI are countries. You still can't give a definition. Ok lets try this does Scitland have a government yes or no ? Answer to your question is because the UK is a fucking union of countries fucking hell lol Do you think the European Union is all one country ? I even pointed out on the UK Prime Minster website they say Scotland , England ,Wales and NI are countries within the UK So CLCC now doesnt agree with past and present PM's now lmao No wonder the UK is a fucking laughing stock with this logic lol Not my fault you are that ashamed to call England a country its embarrassing that you have pride in England i think its a beautiful country but clearly you dint its a wee region in your eyes " Still no definition..... | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future " Neither do you. The Scottish people will decide and I'm pretty sure they won't want to take an additional £40 billion hit on top of a £12 billion hit but you never know, these are strange times when people put their own pet little political projects and biases before the good of the nation, whether that be Scotland, England, Great Britain or the UK. | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future " Nah, it's a fact that neither are a solution. You say that Scotland will be £12bn a year worse off in a hard Brexit. If Scotland votes to remain as part of a hard Brexit UK, it will still be £12bn a year worse Off, Right? So how has anything been solved? | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future Neither do you. The Scottish people will decide and I'm pretty sure they won't want to take an additional £40 billion hit on top of a £12 billion hit but you never know, these are strange times when people put their own pet little political projects and biases before the good of the nation, whether that be Scotland, England, Great Britain or the UK." Yes your right the people of Scotland will decide no one living out of Scotland will decide Scotlands future fact!! Not my fault your pissed off that England voted as a majority to leave the EU As i said above The fact your all claiming Scotland will face damage leaving the UK but are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland best of it the ones saying this live outside Scotland thinking you know whats better for Scotland than people actually living in Scotland Welcome to the UK version of nazi Germany | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future Neither do you. The Scottish people will decide and I'm pretty sure they won't want to take an additional £40 billion hit on top of a £12 billion hit but you never know, these are strange times when people put their own pet little political projects and biases before the good of the nation, whether that be Scotland, England, Great Britain or the UK. Yes your right the people of Scotland will decide no one living out of Scotland will decide Scotlands future fact!! Not my fault your pissed off that England voted as a majority to leave the EU As i said above The fact your all claiming Scotland will face damage leaving the UK but are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland best of it the ones saying this live outside Scotland thinking you know whats better for Scotland than people actually living in Scotland Welcome to the UK version of nazi Germany " If you don't want our opinion on Scotland stop asking us. I'm more than happy not to discuss Scotland on this thread, as I made absolutely clear further up the thread. So if we both agree to discuss BREXIT rather than SEXIT that's fine with me. | |||
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" My solution is to hand it over to the Scottish people and have a independence referendum. That is not a solution. The problem is Scotland will be £12bn poorer, or £40bn poorer. You "solution" is to ask them should Scotland be independent or not. What ever the outcome of that, Scotland will still be £12bn or £40bn poorer, you haven't solved anything. In your opinion Fact is CLCC you dont get to dictate terms to how Scotland chooses to decide its own future Neither do you. The Scottish people will decide and I'm pretty sure they won't want to take an additional £40 billion hit on top of a £12 billion hit but you never know, these are strange times when people put their own pet little political projects and biases before the good of the nation, whether that be Scotland, England, Great Britain or the UK. Yes your right the people of Scotland will decide no one living out of Scotland will decide Scotlands future fact!! Not my fault your pissed off that England voted as a majority to leave the EU As i said above The fact your all claiming Scotland will face damage leaving the UK but are hell bent on keeping Scotland a part of the UK even though it’s been demonstrated that it’s damaging Scotland best of it the ones saying this live outside Scotland thinking you know whats better for Scotland than people actually living in Scotland Welcome to the UK version of nazi Germany If you don't want our opinion on Scotland stop asking us. I'm more than happy not to discuss Scotland on this thread, as I made absolutely clear further up the thread. So if we both agree to discuss BREXIT rather than SEXIT that's fine with me. " Scotland not important enough to talk about eh ? Not come up with a single solution yet ? You may not like mine but at least it give people in Scotland a choice once the final brexit deal is known Where is evidence that England as a whole want to stop brexit ? You know full well that might never happen yet you seem happy enough for Scotland just to follow suit Sorry but If England want to leave the EU then it does not need to hold Scotland hand to go out in the big wide world I keep getting told to respect the will of the people So sadly the will of the people in England voted to leave the EU i hope some where along the lines in the next 8 months England changes its mind but very doubtful And sorry to say Scotland will not hang about to suffer brexit not when it has a legal democratic mandate to offer people a choice of something different People in England instead of trying to dictate terms to when Scotland can have a referendum on independence should worry about getting their own country to see how bad brexit will be and hopefully change its mind Scotland aemd a clear message we dint want to leave the EU or the single market and customs union those are red lines | |||
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