FabSwingers.com forum: Scottish exports worth £100bn after independence part 2

By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Since the other thread finished and CLCC you asked a question I will answer it

1.Yes there are 13 Scottish Tory branch mps

2. The Tories do not hold a majority they had help from the DUP bribe

Scotland never voted for a Tory government

Hell Scotland didn't send a majority of Scottish Tory branch mp to Westminster

Hate to burst your bubble but England we're the only ones who voted Tory maybe look at English Labour why there is a piss poor Tories and yet Corbyn still can't win

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Its funny to watch Labour twist themselves in knots lol

Scottish Labour branch leader 'Richard Leonard has said 'there is growing evidence Labour will "almost certainly" vote against the final Brexit deal"

So Labour want a meaningful vote on brexit but say the respect the result of the EU referendum and the UK must leave the EU to respect the will of the people

So if the vote against duh Labour aint respecting the vote then lol

Labour dont know their heed from their arse i say they will do what they best and prob abstain lol

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is the head of Her Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom. The Prime Minister (sometimes informally abbreviated to PM) and Cabinet (consisting of all the most senior ministers, most of whom are government department heads) are collectively accountable for their policies and actions to the Monarch, to Parliament, to their political party and ultimately to the electorate. The office is one of the Great Offices of State.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!"

Nope no lie

Really i dont understand democracy ok lets test it eh

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!"

Yup and it gets sends down to English ports and exported as a UK product daft or what lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!"
Commendable you have entered into the discussion actually what the thread topic is about.

Tangent R us Kinky (aka Rodney)

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Democracy is when the government is accountable to the people who elected them. It is the people who are sovereign, not the institutions that govern. If the people want to change the rules or the institutions, they can and they will.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored"

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

Ah right so the will of the Scottish people get ignored and that's fine now ?

Hello the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland in Westminster FFS lol

Did you forget the name Scottish National Party ? They don't put candidate s in English seats lol

How the Scottish people hold the Tories to account?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

some mates I worked with from teeside, sunderland, whitley and surrounding, did often say they would rather be Scots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha "

Yes Scotland has a mandate for a none binding referendum.

What the UK Government decides to do with that result should a none binding referendum be held is upto them.

Just because the UK Government decided to act upon the result of the none binding referendum on EU membership does not mean they will accept and act on any and every other none binding referendum on any subject.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

Ah right so the will of the Scottish people get ignored and that's fine now ?

Hello the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland in Westminster FFS lol

Did you forget the name Scottish National Party ? They don't put candidate s in English seats lol

How the Scottish people hold the Tories to account?"

You have the answers as set out as above.

Just because you choose to, either ignore or twist the facts, then that's your problem.

You preach to others to respect Scottish democracy, yet won't respect UK democracy. You are either arrogant or ignorant but again, that's your problem.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes Scotland has a mandate for a none binding referendum.

What the UK Government decides to do with that result should a none binding referendum be held is upto them.

Wrong Scotland has a mandate for a legally binding referendum

Did you not see Holyrood vote and pass the section 30 order? Yes i know its upto the UK government to refuse or accept it but would be foolish for them to do so plays into the pro indy hands lol

So its now ok to ignore the mandate the Scottish government have from the people of Scotland and Holyrood oh that will look good to the rest of the world looking on lol

Anyway Scotland can hold a referendum on independence without permission from the Uk government if a yes vote is returned it would be foolish to ignore best just have a legally binding independence referendum and put forward their case for Scotland to stay in the UK unless they are afraid of democracy lol

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

Ah right so the will of the Scottish people get ignored and that's fine now ?

Hello the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland in Westminster FFS lol

Did you forget the name Scottish National Party ? They don't put candidate s in English seats lol

How the Scottish people hold the Tories to account?

You have the answers as set out as above.

Just because you choose to, either ignore or twist the facts, then that's your problem.

You preach to others to respect Scottish democracy, yet won't respect UK democracy. You are either arrogant or ignorant but again, that's your problem."

The UK is not a democracy you might wanna thibk it is cause it suits Englands votes but ignores Scotland ,Wales and NI votes

This UK is a Tory dictatorship

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

What democracy do you live in the UK eh ?

The Scottish Tory branch Mp SoS for Scotland promises to amendent the EU withdrawal bill and Fluffy is a lazy bastard and doesnt amendent fuck all and it gets send to unelected lords

Yes there is a fine example of your UK democracy where unelected lords have more power than elected Mps from Scotland over the devloved powers

Your having a laugh lmao

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

Yup and it gets sends down to English ports and exported as a UK product daft or what lol "

Oh god, not this thing with ports again, didn't you learn you lesson last time?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes Scotland has a mandate for a none binding referendum.

What the UK Government decides to do with that result should a none binding referendum be held is upto them.

Wrong Scotland has a mandate for a legally binding referendum

Did you not see Holyrood vote and pass the section 30 order? Yes i know its upto the UK government to refuse or accept it but would be foolish for them to do so plays into the pro indy hands lol

So its now ok to ignore the mandate the Scottish government have from the people of Scotland and Holyrood oh that will look good to the rest of the world looking on lol

Your UK Government thinks Scotland does not have the appropriate powers to hold a binding referendum, the devolved Scottish parliament thinks it does and if the devolved Scottish parliament wanted another independence referendum so badly then they either have to take the matter to the courts OR persuade the UK Government to grant another section 30 that would then make it legal beyond doubt.

So, how badly does the SNP want another indy ref ? because Court action is always available to them if they believe they are correct and let the court's decide on their level of powers one and for all.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

1 we didn't elect a Tory government

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

We the people elected the SNP as a majority in Westminster to protect and put Scottish needs first

The EU withdrawal bill perfect example of elected mps put down amendments not one listened to

The one Scottish Tory branch mp didn't even bother his arse to do what he said and amendment the bill which he didn't the Tories send it to the unelected lords to decide

This is your great UK parilament eh ? Lol

So anyone tell me how the Scottish people hold the Tories to account? Do not say by voting Labour we elected SNP and they are being ignored the will of the Scottish people are being ignored

But as Scotland is part of the UK and it's democracy, then you have to live and abide by the UK laws etc.

You can change it:-

Vote for Independence. Tried and failed, not enough people wanted it.

Put a SNP candidate up in every constituency in the next General Election and put persuasive arguements forward so that people vote SNP, and they become the biggest party in Parliament.

Ah right so the will of the Scottish people get ignored and that's fine now ?

Hello the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland in Westminster FFS lol

Did you forget the name Scottish National Party ? They don't put candidate s in English seats lol

How the Scottish people hold the Tories to account?

You have the answers as set out as above.

Just because you choose to, either ignore or twist the facts, then that's your problem.

You preach to others to respect Scottish democracy, yet won't respect UK democracy. You are either arrogant or ignorant but again, that's your problem.

The UK is not a democracy you might wanna thibk it is cause it suits Englands votes but ignores Scotland ,Wales and NI votes

This UK is a Tory dictatorship "

Unfortunately for you, that's opinion against fact.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people. "

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes Scotland has a mandate for a none binding referendum.

What the UK Government decides to do with that result should a none binding referendum be held is upto them.

Wrong Scotland has a mandate for a legally binding referendum

Did you not see Holyrood vote and pass the section 30 order? Yes i know its upto the UK government to refuse or accept it but would be foolish for them to do so plays into the pro indy hands lol

So its now ok to ignore the mandate the Scottish government have from the people of Scotland and Holyrood oh that will look good to the rest of the world looking on lol

Hello!! The UK government have no legal power to stop Scotland having a independence referendum with Westminster permission

Its basic knowledge the only power they have which is shocking in the first place is the can accept ofr refuse a section 30 order on granting a legally binding referendum not a wise move to refuse it it will play right into our hands so please by all means keep it up lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!

Nope no lie

Really i dont understand democracy ok lets test it eh

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha "

Yes that do !!! So let's have it tomorrow but wee nippy knows she is gonna loose again !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao"

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello!! The UK government have no legal power to stop Scotland having a independence referendum with Westminster permission

Hello!! Are you on about a binding or none binding referendum here then ? because that tiny point changes the answer accordingly

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education."

Ok lets test it eh

So Andy can Scotland have a independence referendum without Westminsters permission ? What power does Westminster have to stop a referendum to happen ? They gonna send in English police to beat the shit out of Scottish voters eh ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

Yup and it gets sends down to English ports and exported as a UK product daft or what lol "

MORE COMPLETE PISH !!!!!

SCOT GOV FIGURES COUNT EVERYTHING EXPORTED FROM SCOTLAND NO MATTER WHERE IT IS EXPORTED FROM. THERE ARE SCOT GOV STAYS.

THE SNP FOLLOWERS ARE DUPED BY WINGS OVER SCOTLAND AND A MAP JOANNE MACALPINE WHO USED TO PEDDLE THIS MIYTH IN THE DAILY RECORD.

THE OTHER MYTH IS THAT THE UK PICK UP TAX FROM EXPORTED WHYSKY !!! NOT TRUE EITHER !!!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!

Nope no lie

Really i dont understand democracy ok lets test it eh

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes that do !!! So let's have it tomorrow but wee nippy knows she is gonna loose again !!!"

Hello!! What part of once we know the final brexit deal are you not getting ? Lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

Ok lets test it eh

The Scottish Government can call a referendum. It would be non binding and would be no better or legal than a newspaper opinion poll.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"sorry if it's been said but not trawling through but by 2020 Scotland will be exporting more gin than whisky!

Yup and it gets sends down to English ports and exported as a UK product daft or what lol

MORE COMPLETE PISH !!!!!

SCOT GOV FIGURES COUNT EVERYTHING EXPORTED FROM SCOTLAND NO MATTER WHERE IT IS EXPORTED FROM. THERE ARE SCOT GOV STAYS.

THE SNP FOLLOWERS ARE DUPED BY WINGS OVER SCOTLAND AND A MAP JOANNE MACALPINE WHO USED TO PEDDLE THIS MIYTH IN THE DAILY RECORD.

THE OTHER MYTH IS THAT THE UK PICK UP TAX FROM EXPORTED WHYSKY !!! NOT TRUE EITHER !!!"

Yoons be crazy!!! Lol weeessshhttt no need for shouting claim doon get a hot chocolate in you and dont go all hulk hehehehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

Ok lets test it eh

Ok test started.

Scotland can have as many referendums they want as no one can stop that.

The crux is if Scotland wants it to be a binding referendum, that I have answered a few posts up, either a section 30 has to be granted by the UK Government OR Scotland's devolved parliament would have to take it's claim that Scotland has powers to grant binding referendums to the courts for them to decide.

Test passed!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

Ok lets test it eh

The Scottish Government can call a referendum. It would be non binding and would be no better or legal than a newspaper opinion poll.

Thank you for answering

So if a yes vote is returned would you not think its foolish for the UK government to ignore considering they wanna take the while UK out on a Eu non binding referendum ?

Best to just grant the section 30 order and allow a legally binding independence referndum and then put their case forward for Scotland to stay in the UK unless they are chicken shit to hold one lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

Ok lets test it eh

The Scottish Government can call a referendum. It would be non binding and would be no better or legal than a newspaper opinion poll.

Thank you for answering

So if a yes vote is returned would you not think its foolish for the UK government to ignore considering they wanna take the while UK out on a Eu non binding referendum ?

Best to just grant the section 30 order and allow a legally binding independence referndum and then put their case forward for Scotland to stay in the UK unless they are chicken shit to hold one lol "

You forget an important point here.

Without any legal basis, the Unionist side would just not take part, making the result farcical.

Remember Catalonia?

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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Btw just out of interest

Who believes what CLCC that parilament is sovereign Or is it the people ,

Remember who is it that elects mps into parilament ? Hehehehehehehe

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The people elect MP's to parliament and in doing so parliament is sovereign

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao

The only thinking that is "bat shit crazy" is yours kinky

You seriously need further adult education.

Ok lets test it eh

The Scottish Government can call a referendum. It would be non binding and would be no better or legal than a newspaper opinion poll.

Thank you for answering

So if a yes vote is returned would you not think its foolish for the UK government to ignore considering they wanna take the while UK out on a Eu non binding referendum ?

Best to just grant the section 30 order and allow a legally binding independence referndum and then put their case forward for Scotland to stay in the UK unless they are chicken shit to hold one lol

You forget an important point here.

Without any legal basis, the Unionist side would just not take part, making the result farcical.

Remember Catalonia?"

And that is why they should not refuse one unless they are chicken shit lol

What next the UK government gonna send up English police to beat voters up ? Lol

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over a year ago

I feel another fucking farce about to unfold here now

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"The people elect MP's to parliament and in doing so parliament is sovereign "

So the people are sovereign as we elect mps to represent us in parilament

God you all have a funny way of showing democracy in the UK lol

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And that is why they should not refuse one unless they are chicken shit lol

What next the UK government gonna send up English police to beat voters up ? Lol "

Nope, the UK Government would probably just ignore the whole thing unless they chose to act upon it.

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"The people elect MP's to parliament and in doing so parliament is sovereign

So the people are sovereign as we elect mps to represent us in parilament

God you all have a funny way of showing democracy in the UK lol "

Ok in your twisted incorrect logic WE are all Government then ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

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"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

Who elects these mps again remind me ? Lol

The people are sovereign we elect mps , msps etc

Yeah statements like that claiming parilament is sovereign and not the people no wonder the UK is fucked with that kinda bat shit crazy thinking lmao"

What law have the people ever passed?

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We have a constitution whose central principle is Parliamentary sovereignty

...just incasr you had forgot that little nugget of fact

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over a year ago

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And that is why they should not refuse one unless they are chicken shit lol

What next the UK government gonna send up English police to beat voters up ? Lol

Nope, the UK Government would probably just ignore the whole thing unless they chose to act upon it."

And look very foolish and going against the will of the people of Scotland

Do you not think its better to just hold a legally binding referendum on Scottish independence abd put forward their case to have Scotland stay in the UK ? Whats to fear right ?

The UK goverment think its ok to take the whole Uk out of the EU on a non binding referendum lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

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Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

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over a year ago

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I get yoons be fearing Scotland could wave goodbye to the UK and no more money from Scotland oh what a shame lol

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And that is why they should not refuse one unless they are chicken shit lol

What next the UK government gonna send up English police to beat voters up ? Lol

Nope, the UK Government would probably just ignore the whole thing unless they chose to act upon it.

And look very foolish and going against the will of the people of Scotland

Do you not think its better to just hold a legally binding referendum on Scottish independence abd put forward their case to have Scotland stay in the UK ? Whats to fear right ?

The UK goverment think its ok to take the whole Uk out of the EU on a non binding referendum lol "

Yes, I've agreed with you on this previously.... only time so far but hey miracles happen.

Yes the fuck up commonly known as Brexit totally changes what people voted for or against last time round so another referendum now, not in 10 months time should be granted.

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over a year ago

"I get yoons be fearing Scotland could wave goodbye to the UK and no more money from Scotland oh what a shame lol "

Just when you gave a glimpse of normality you come out with shite like this lol

I suppose you can't help it

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?"

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe"

But will they do it?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe"

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

But will they do it? "

If there is a hard brexit yes why shouldnt they they have a mandate for it correct ?

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!"

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

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"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

actually... english mp's don't vote on purely scottish matters.... those are dealt with by holyrood...

HOWEVER.... Scottish mps can vote purely on english matters, (and english and welsh matters)

the infamous "east lothian" question.....

case in point.... when they threated to vote against foxhunting in England and wales.... irony being that what was being debated was to move the rules on foxhunting to mirror those in scotland..

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"How can it be a democracy if, as you assert, the elected government is accountable to an unelected head of state?

That is not the definition of democracy.

And the Scottish people can't hold the Tories to account

2 with only 59 Scottish seats the English Mps could outvote our Scottish mps Everytime

actually... english mp's don't vote on purely scottish matters.... those are dealt with by holyrood...

HOWEVER.... Scottish mps can vote purely on english matters, (and english and welsh matters)

the infamous "east lothian" question.....

case in point.... when they threated to vote against foxhunting in England and wales.... irony being that what was being debated was to move the rules on foxhunting to mirror those in scotland..

Ever heard of EVEL Fabio ? Clearly not ? Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission

I thought Westminster is a UK parilament ? What is the point in the act of the union ? I mean i thiught it was to create one parilament for the whole of the UK strange Scotland has its own parilament ooooppppsss lol

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ? "

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy! "

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not.

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over a year ago

"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

correct, then Mrs May rushed in an election just when things were starting to move

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

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Ever heard of EVEL Fabio ? Clearly not ? Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission

yes i have heard of EVEL , and if you knew how EVEL works... then you would know that ALL mps can vote on legislation... but English MP's in effect can in effect get a "veto" in the law making stages....

so if the vote is tight... such as with fox hunting, even though the convention is that the SNP abstain, on this issue they were going to vote against!!!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not."

Yoons be crazy lol

Me scared not one fucking bit

Again the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate to have an independence referendum what are you not understanding ? Lol

Did you not know the SNP put it in their manfesto and the people of Scotland elected them ? Therfore giving the a mandate duhh! Lol

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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Ever heard of EVEL Fabio ? Clearly not ? Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission

so if the vote is tight... such as with fox hunting, even though the convention is that the SNP abstain, on this issue they were going to vote against!!!!! "

Excuse me Fabio Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission?

I thought Westminster is a UK parilament ? What is the point in the act of the union ? I mean i thought it was to create one parilament for the whole of the UK strange Scotland has its own parilament correct ? Hehehe

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

But will they do it?

If there is a hard brexit yes why shouldnt they they have a mandate for it correct ? "

Can you imagine any scenario in which they wouldn't hold a referendum before the next Scottish Parliament elections?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not.

Yoons be crazy lol

Me scared not one fucking bit

Again the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate to have an independence referendum what are you not understanding ? Lol

Did you not know the SNP put it in their manfesto and the people of Scotland elected them ? Therfore giving the a mandate duhh! Lol

I suspect it was a small part of the SNP manifesto so no one can really say they were elected on this basis.

However if the SNP went to the Scottish people and ask just that one question they would find out the will of the people.

However the wee Krankie dictator is to scared to do that.

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"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!

Nope no lie

Really i dont understand democracy ok lets test it eh

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes that do !!! So let's have it tomorrow but wee nippy knows she is gonna loose again !!!

Hello!! What part of once we know the final brexit deal are you not getting ? Lol

So if it is a good deal then the refarendum is cancelled ???

my arse !!!!!

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not."

Since kinky likes polls just now.

Only 30 % of Scots want a new referendum! !!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Excuse me Fabio Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission? "

actually no... they followed all the recommendations of the 10 person smith commission, of which your current deputy leader/ deputy first minister was one of the "gang of 10"

there were no ammendments made in the original "devolution bill" (remember the devolution bill covered scotland, wales, and london) which then went on the be the "scotland act" with regards to scotland and holyrood....

"I thought Westminster is a UK parilament ? What is the point in the act of the union ? I mean i thought it was to create one parilament for the whole of the UK strange Scotland has its own parilament correct ? Hehehe"

it is... and it deals with uk national issues.... nothing wrong with the process of devolving issues down that can be decided at more local levels...

from westmister... to holyrood... to local regional councils.... I don't see issues...

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"As the United Kingdom is a democracy I think you need a reminder of how the UK is governed.

Democracy ha! My arse

Corrupt dictatorship and lets not forget your proud of the British empire and its history of slavery

Well that's a lie isn't it.

You seem to be the only person who does not understand how democracy works.

Not sure how you would get Scotland independent if you do not believe in the voting system!

Nope no lie

Really i dont understand democracy ok lets test it eh

Does the Scottish government have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood on a section 30 order to have the right to hold a independence referendum ?

I dare you to say no they dont lol then its you that does not understand democracy haha

Yes that do !!! So let's have it tomorrow but wee nippy knows she is gonna loose again !!!

Hello!! What part of once we know the final brexit deal are you not getting ? Lol

So if it is a good deal then the refarendum is cancelled ???

my arse !!!!!"

It may face being took off the table but i dont think you get it

The Scottish government mandate until the next election and can use it if they need to we all know yoons are shite for actually delivering promises case and point name a single thing that the Better Together mob delivered to Scotland post referendum ?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not.

Yoons be crazy lol

Me scared not one fucking bit

Again the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate to have an independence referendum what are you not understanding ? Lol

Did you not know the SNP put it in their manfesto and the people of Scotland elected them ? Therfore giving the a mandate duhh! Lol

I suspect it was a small part of the SNP manifesto so no one can really say they were elected on this basis.

However if the SNP went to the Scottish people and ask just that one question they would find out the will of the people.

However the wee Krankie dictator is to scared to do that.

Nicola Sturgeon would be finished if she called a referendum and lost.

The more cynical might say that the Nationalist gravy train, that her and her husband are currently taking generous advantage of, would crash spectacularly into the buffers.

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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Excuse me Fabio Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission?

actually no... they followed all the recommendations of the 10 person smith commission, of which your current deputy leader/ deputy first minister was one of the "gang of 10"

it is... and it deals with uk national issues.... nothing wrong with the process of devolving issues down that can be decided at more local levels...

from westmister... to holyrood... to local regional councils.... I don't see issues..."

Wow so you think mps and unlected lords didnt get a say on the Scotland bill ? Lol

I thiught the act if the union was to create one parilament eh ?

Westminster is an English parilament in all but name correct ? How many English mps again ? How many Scottish , Welsh and NI mps are there ?

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

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"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

It sounds like weee krankie is the dictator if she is the one who gets to decide!!

Lmao hello the people of Scotland and Holyrood gave the Scottish government a mandate fucking hell

Tour very anti democracy what do fear eh ?

Not at all.

Scotland should hold a referendum with the one question of do we hold another Scotland Independence referendum 'Yes' or 'No'.

Ask the Scottish people what they want.

That's democracy!

Hello they already have a mandate from the people of Scotland and Holyrood to have a independence referendum thats democracy!!! Lol

Sounds like you are to scared to ask the people of Scotland if they want an independence referendum or not.

Since kinky likes polls just now.

Only 30 % of Scots want a new referendum! !!"

Out of interest is this the poll in the Scotsman ?

This one by any chance ? Take a long hard look at the too one only 36% want to keep the union lol

Independence poll by @Survation:

Keeping the current situation 36%

Full independence 32%

Devo-max 17%

Don't know 16

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Wow so you think mps and unlected lords didnt get a say on the Scotland bill ? Lol "

now you are twisting.... I didn't say they never got a say or vote, I am saying that there were no amendments offered in the commons or lords report stages to the smith commission recommendations... and then with the scotland bill provisions.....

"I thiught the act if the union was to create one parilament eh ?

Westminster is an English parilament in all but name correct ? How many English mps again ? How many Scottish , Welsh and NI mps are there ? "

you really want a lesson in "the mps for each region are roughly based on populations........" again!! since you didn't realise that is what it was based on in one of the other threads

okay then.... like i said, sometimes you don't protect yourself from protecting yourself!!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Wow so you think mps and unlected lords didnt get a say on the Scotland bill ? Lol

I thiught the act if the union was to create one parilament eh ?

Westminster is an English parilament in all but name correct ? How many English mps again ? How many Scottish , Welsh and NI mps are there ?

you really want a lesson in "the mps for each region are roughly based on populations........" again!! since you didn't realise that is what it was based on in one of the other threads

okay then.... like i said, sometimes you don't protect yourself from protecting yourself!!!!

Ah so they did get a say in the Scotland bill make your mind eh lol

Westminster is an English parilament in all but name correct ? How many English mps again ? How many Scottish , Welsh and NI mps are there ?

Come on answer questions if i am getting accused of not answering thwn i will point out double standards lol

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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"Kinky, have the SNP 100% guaranteed that there will be a referendum on independence before the end of this Scottish Parliament (before the next Scottish Parliament elections)?

They have a mandate for it

Why doesnt yoons listen Nicola was clear once the final brexit deal is known she will then decide if to hand in the section 30 order

Hell yoons are even trying to stop democracy and say the Tories should try and block it till after the Scottish elections very anti democratic and smells of ahite in their knickers hehehehe

But will they do it?

If there is a hard brexit yes why shouldnt they they have a mandate for it correct ?

Can you imagine any scenario in which they wouldn't hold a referendum before the next Scottish Parliament elections? "

If a hard brexit doesnt happen

Leaving the single market and customs union is a red line for the Scottish government if the UK government are hell bent on leaving both then Scotland has every right to use its mandate to hold a referendum on independence

Should be nothing to fear right people in Scotland dont want independence right ? Or do they ? Lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Excuse me Fabio Did English mps and unelected lords not get to decide which powers Scotland can gave in the Smith commission?

actually no... they followed all the recommendations of the 10 person smith commission, of which your current deputy leader/ deputy first minister was one of the "gang of 10"

it is... and it deals with uk national issues.... nothing wrong with the process of devolving issues down that can be decided at more local levels...

from westmister... to holyrood... to local regional councils.... I don't see issues...

Wow so you think mps and unlected lords didnt get a say on the Scotland bill ? Lol

I thiught the act if the union was to create one parilament eh ?

Westminster is an English parilament in all but name correct ? How many English mps again ? How many Scottish , Welsh and NI mps are there ? "

Why has Edinburgh got more MSPs than Elgin? Glasgow more than Girvan?