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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. " You'll never know because votes aren't divided into genders?  | |||
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It's only 100 for SOME women. Equality on voting wasn't achieved until 1928.
1918 marks the full enfranchisement of men to have the vote so what's the good or bad thing about all men having the vote?
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. " Really? You think that? | |||
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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. You'll never know because votes aren't divided into genders? "A range of data is produced after each vote which shows how genders have voted though. That does affect some things, such as future manifestos and marketing of messages around public and even products for sale. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? " She would not have been able to stand for election. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? " Yes i doubt they would have allowed women to stand for election if they hadn't also allowed them to vote. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? Yes i doubt they would have allowed women to stand for election if they hadn't also allowed them to vote. " I thought you were implying women voted for her because she was a woman. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? Yes i doubt they would have allowed women to stand for election if they hadn't also allowed them to vote. I thought you were implying women voted for her because she was a woman. " No. But I'm sure every little helped.  | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " Or their indicators. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. Or their indicators. " Do people grind their gears when they fail to indicate? Anyhoo, on men having the vote, here's a thread I made earlier: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/723385 | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? " It's true in that because women had been given the vote...The next step was access into lower government levels and then that gave access to represent parties and then stand for PM. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " That's their choice or are you democratically removing that option from them. Not voting can be as strategic at times. | |||
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"Well you don't see women chained to railings any more," you have to go to clubs for that now | |||
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"I vote they change their own flat tyre" My car just has the squirty thing. | |||
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"I vote they change their own flat tyre My car just has the squirty thing. " Mine too!!..there shite | |||
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"I vote they change their own flat tyre My car just has the squirty thing. Mine too!!..there shite" I didn't realise that's what's in the can.  | |||
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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. " Not much really - might as well take it back off them  | |||
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"Must admit I was expecting more from this but maybe it's not as big a milestone as some think." More might get interested on Tuesday as that's the date of the anniversary. Although it was an odd question so maybe people don't want to answer and start a forum row. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " I believe we also have the right to CHOOSE whether to vote or not. | |||
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"Must admit I was expecting more from this but maybe it's not as big a milestone as some think. More might get interested on Tuesday as that's the date of the anniversary. Although it was an odd question so maybe people don't want to answer and start a forum row. " Odd as in not being the typical daily fab topic. I'll take that as a compliment. It's good to broaden our vision at times. I deliberately phrased it as i did in order to reduce the possibilty of ant rows. I hope people see that and engage. I think it's a massive thing. | |||
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"Must admit I was expecting more from this but maybe it's not as big a milestone as some think. More might get interested on Tuesday as that's the date of the anniversary. Although it was an odd question so maybe people don't want to answer and start a forum row. Odd as in not being the typical daily fab topic. I'll take that as a compliment. It's good to broaden our vision at times. I deliberately phrased it as i did in order to reduce the possibilty of ant rows. I hope people see that and engage. I think it's a massive thing." What’s a 'massive thing'? The right for women to vote, or people 'engaging' on a swinging site forum? | |||
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"Must admit I was expecting more from this but maybe it's not as big a milestone as some think. More might get interested on Tuesday as that's the date of the anniversary. Although it was an odd question so maybe people don't want to answer and start a forum row. Odd as in not being the typical daily fab topic. I'll take that as a compliment. It's good to broaden our vision at times. I deliberately phrased it as i did in order to reduce the possibilty of ant rows. I hope people see that and engage. I think it's a massive thing. What’s a 'massive thing'? The right for women to vote, or people 'engaging' on a swinging site forum?" As a woman you have that choice to decide yourself whatever you wish to draw from it.  | |||
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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. " Ermmm..? Have they stopped complaining yet? | |||
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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. " Good, it was a first step on a long journey to recognising equality. Bad,it shows no matter who votes for what, not much actually changes. | |||
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"Which gain mire of a leverage for change the 'suffragists' or the 'suffragettes'. Both play their part in the change but I wonder looking back in history was one group more effective? Or did it require both for the change to take place as it did?" The row about the Fawcett vs Pankhurst approach continues to this day among some feminist groups. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? It's true in that because women had been given the vote...The next step was access into lower government levels and then that gave access to represent parties and then stand for PM." Also, being able to choose who they voted for and not following who their husbands voted for. | |||
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"What has changed as a result. Name one thing good or bad (in your opinion) that has changed as a result. Ermmm..? Have they stopped complaining yet?" No. Men still complain about women being given the vote. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " This! And to add that they then complain about the results. One young lad I work with said he doesn't vote because he doesn't feel strongly enough about a particular party/side and his one vote wont make a difference. So infuriating that people think this! | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " I've never voted in my life....not out of ignorance, but Purley because I don't know the first thing about anything regarding politics and what might be the right or wrong thing to do... I've no idea. Thus I don't vote and leave it to the more aware with what's going be for the best. I didn't vote in brexit either.. Again, because I felt I wasn't made aware/educated enough as to the pro, s and cons at the time.... So felt I couldn't make a conscious decision /vote. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " Many that don't vote consider that to be a vote of no confidence in the options or current system. | |||
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"Which gain mire of a leverage for change the 'suffragists' or the 'suffragettes'. Both play their part in the change but I wonder looking back in history was one group more effective? Or did it require both for the change to take place as it did? The row about the Fawcett vs Pankhurst approach continues to this day among some feminist groups. " Indeed. And I don't fully understand why other than each wanting the credit. Which is sad as the important issue is then lost. | |||
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"We don’t have a vote on particular issues as such only for the people standing for election. I’d like to think that women help give a balanced view point on matters eg equal pay, sex discrimination, etc. They’ve also helped shape legislation and how victims of sexual assault are treated. Women also tend to lobby on issues of abortion, equal rights, etc. Women lobby for issues that affect them and currently we are trying to get the use of mesh banned to repair prolapse and stress urinary incontinence as it damages women’s internal organs in some instances. We have recently managed to get the government agree to carry out an audit of the various conditions/damage that all types of mesh has caused. " Excellent... Thanks for that. Yes women and men view and prioritise things differently. I do a lot of work with a particular social concern that's become a global issue and it's easy to get women involved but much harder to get the attention of men to help and yet it's predominantly men who are behind it. | |||
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"We don’t have a vote on particular issues as such only for the people standing for election. I’d like to think that women help give a balanced view point on matters eg equal pay, sex discrimination, etc. They’ve also helped shape legislation and how victims of sexual assault are treated. Women also tend to lobby on issues of abortion, equal rights, etc. Women lobby for issues that affect them and currently we are trying to get the use of mesh banned to repair prolapse and stress urinary incontinence as it damages women’s internal organs in some instances. We have recently managed to get the government agree to carry out an audit of the various conditions/damage that all types of mesh has caused. " Holy Guacamole - I’m working on that mesh audit!  | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. " May ones gears stay grinded for many a year then. The right not to vote is just as important as the right to do so. Many people have no faith in the current system and want no part of it. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. I've never voted in my life....not out of ignorance, but Purley because I don't know the first thing about anything regarding politics and what might be the right or wrong thing to do... I've no idea. Thus I don't vote and leave it to the more aware with what's going be for the best. I didn't vote in brexit either.. Again, because I felt I wasn't made aware/educated enough as to the pro, s and cons at the time.... So felt I couldn't make a conscious decision /vote. " A sensible way to look at it. It would be like flipping a coin for you I guess. | |||
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" We would never have had Thatcher if they couldn't vote. Really? You think that? " In '79, 43% of men that voted, voted Conservative. 47% of women that voted, voted Conservative. Just saying.....lol. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. Many that don't vote consider that to be a vote of no confidence in the options or current system. " But it isn't! a vote of no confidence requires action not apathy. A spoiled 'none of the above' ballot paper is also not a valid vote, but is at least counted as a non vote. I think voting should be compulsory and enforced by a fine, but at the same time the ballot should have a no choice option on it. | |||
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"We don’t have a vote on particular issues as such only for the people standing for election. I’d like to think that women help give a balanced view point on matters eg equal pay, sex discrimination, etc. They’ve also helped shape legislation and how victims of sexual assault are treated. Women also tend to lobby on issues of abortion, equal rights, etc. Women lobby for issues that affect them and currently we are trying to get the use of mesh banned to repair prolapse and stress urinary incontinence as it damages women’s internal organs in some instances. We have recently managed to get the government agree to carry out an audit of the various conditions/damage that all types of mesh has caused. Holy Guacamole - I’m working on that mesh audit! "Excellent... | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. Many that don't vote consider that to be a vote of no confidence in the options or current system. But it isn't! a vote of no confidence requires action not apathy. A spoiled 'none of the above' ballot paper is also not a valid vote, but is at least counted as a non vote. I think voting should be compulsory and enforced by a fine, but at the same time the ballot should have a no choice option on it." Yeah granted. A spoilt ballot paper sends a stronger message. And no doubt a lot simply can't be bothered. But that's their choice. As the guy just a bit up said he doesn't know enough about any of it to cast a vote either. Let others do as they wish. As for your suggestion of making voting compulsory and fining those that don't. That idea can be shoved where the sun don't shine. | |||
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"Which gain mire of a leverage for change the 'suffragists' or the 'suffragettes'. Both play their part in the change but I wonder looking back in history was one group more effective? Or did it require both for the change to take place as it did? The row about the Fawcett vs Pankhurst approach continues to this day among some feminist groups. Indeed. And I don't fully understand why other than each wanting the credit. Which is sad as the important issue is then lost." It's not just about wanting the credit but an ethical standpoint. One group were terrorists and the other were pacifists. Much as Mandela is now viewed as overall 'good' there are those who will dismiss that good because of the earlier terrorist label. One man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist. | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. Many that don't vote consider that to be a vote of no confidence in the options or current system. But it isn't! a vote of no confidence requires action not apathy. A spoiled 'none of the above' ballot paper is also not a valid vote, but is at least counted as a non vote. I think voting should be compulsory and enforced by a fine, but at the same time the ballot should have a no choice option on it. Yeah granted. A spoilt ballot paper sends a stronger message. And no doubt a lot simply can't be bothered. But that's their choice. As the guy just a bit up said he doesn't know enough about any of it to cast a vote either. Let others do as they wish. As for your suggestion of making voting compulsory and fining those that don't. That idea can be shoved where the sun don't shine." It's what Australia does. As to people who don't know enough about an issue it's not for a general lack of information. If people opt out of becoming informed they should also opt out of moaning about the decisions made. | |||
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"Which gain mire of a leverage for change the 'suffragists' or the 'suffragettes'. Both play their part in the change but I wonder looking back in history was one group more effective? Or did it require both for the change to take place as it did? The row about the Fawcett vs Pankhurst approach continues to this day among some feminist groups. Indeed. And I don't fully understand why other than each wanting the credit. Which is sad as the important issue is then lost. It's not just about wanting the credit but an ethical standpoint. One group were terrorists and the other were pacifists. Much as Mandela is now viewed as overall 'good' there are those who will dismiss that good because of the earlier terrorist label. One man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist. " You're right in what you say and it brings it nicely into the whole situation ethics aspect. | |||
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"I vote they change their own flat tyre" I can do that and I don't even drive! | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. I've never voted in my life....not out of ignorance, but Purley because I don't know the first thing about anything regarding politics and what might be the right or wrong thing to do... I've no idea. Thus I don't vote and leave it to the more aware with what's going be for the best. I didn't vote in brexit either.. Again, because I felt I wasn't made aware/educated enough as to the pro, s and cons at the time.... So felt I couldn't make a conscious decision /vote. " That's ignorance! Grow a pair and find out don't just sit back and leave it to everyone else then try to excuse your laziness!  | |||
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"Women now rule world politics" I don’t think so. Women may hold top positions but I don’t think they get to make the decisions they really want at times. Theresa May doesn’t seem to have the support of her Cabinet. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd ". I think it was more like a few million working class men had just come back from being slaughtered and somebody thought... Err we better give this lot the vote or there might be trouble  .
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd "I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
"We cross the start line together at every marathon. At the finish line the crowd only has interest in the first 100 or so. Same in politics. The first step towards equality in celebrated as 100 years ago. The stragglers will have to sort their own party. Our ancestors did much good and much bad. All we can do in our lives is try to do more good than bad. Women in politics is not equality, the highest % is I believe India (may be out of date on that) but that has not achieved equal rights for women in society. If everyone approaches tomorrow with a blind spot for gender and an open mind to individual ability, we will all benefit. They fought a good fight 110 years ago, cracked open the door 100 years ago. Now it is up to us to dismantle the wall. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
"we should be commemorating and celebrating the chartists today, but not one mention of the men that laid down their lives for full suffrage ... it's pure revisionism | |||
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"Off topic tbh... But what grinds my gears is members of the public that don't use their right to vote. Many that don't vote consider that to be a vote of no confidence in the options or current system. But it isn't! a vote of no confidence requires action not apathy. A spoiled 'none of the above' ballot paper is also not a valid vote, but is at least counted as a non vote. I think voting should be compulsory and enforced by a fine, but at the same time the ballot should have a no choice option on it." Totally with you on compulsory voting. If we genuinely want a democracy and we want out opinions to count, then we should be expected to cast a vote. Perhaps we should also go down the route of having a public holiday to support it? I do not support postal & iVoting as it is open to too much abuse. All i can say is wat the film Suffragettes and then support universal suffrage. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
we should be commemorating and celebrating the chartists today, but not one mention of the men that laid down their lives for full suffrage ... it's pure revisionism"It really isn't but if you, and other men, are exercised about this speak up elsewhere where more than a handful of people will read it. I have been noting men achieving full voting rights to a much wider audience than this, alongside the fact that women were granted a partial vote. If this is just more kvetching on here and no actual activity then I take from that that you are not really interested but just want to throw in a 'what about men? boo hoo', which happens on a regular basis on here. Or are you expecting women to raise it on your behalf? Why is it that when I am here I end up starting the International Men's Day thread? Or the ones about men's health? I seem to have more regard to addressing men's issues than men, including you. You could, of course, have started a thread about the Chartist movement and what it achieved for men but you decided to use a thread about a really significant, historical moment for women and equality to *whatabout* men. Now, where have I seen that before? | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
we should be commemorating and celebrating the chartists today, but not one mention of the men that laid down their lives for full suffrage ... it's pure revisionism
It really isn't but if you, and other men, are exercised about this speak up elsewhere where more than a handful of people will read it.
I have been noting men achieving full voting rights to a much wider audience than this, alongside the fact that women were granted a partial vote.
If this is just more kvetching on here and no actual activity then I take from that that you are not really interested but just want to throw in a 'what about men? boo hoo', which happens on a regular basis on here.
Or are you expecting women to raise it on your behalf? Why is it that when I am here I end up starting the International Men's Day thread? Or the ones about men's health? I seem to have more regard to addressing men's issues than men, including you.
You could, of course, have started a thread about the Chartist movement and what it achieved for men but you decided to use a thread about a really significant, historical moment for women and equality to *whatabout* men. Now, where have I seen that before?
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"Tbh - whether it's men, women or aliens - voting is a bit of a joke amongst the general population. I speak to many young people in particular and it amazes me how many are clueless as to what right and left wing represents in politics (and they want to lower the voting age - Jeez!) and to what the policies of the various parties are. It's the lefties that want the voting age lowered because they know the majority of brainless morons will vote Labour (great uncle Jeremy) because that's what young, foolish people do. It's not only the young actually - a fair % of the population is as thick as two short planks and yet we think it's great to give such half wits a vote on crucial matters." What test would you apply? The old test was that you had to be over 30 and owned property. Are those the only people with the knowledge and skills to think? The young people I know and those I speak to are interested (and interesting) and they may not know (or care) whether something is left or right but they do understand and care about the issues and policies that affect them. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
we should be commemorating and celebrating the chartists today, but not one mention of the men that laid down their lives for full suffrage ... it's pure revisionism
It really isn't but if you, and other men, are exercised about this speak up elsewhere where more than a handful of people will read it.
I have been noting men achieving full voting rights to a much wider audience than this, alongside the fact that women were granted a partial vote.
If this is just more kvetching on here and no actual activity then I take from that that you are not really interested but just want to throw in a 'what about men? boo hoo', which happens on a regular basis on here.
Or are you expecting women to raise it on your behalf? Why is it that when I am here I end up starting the International Men's Day thread? Or the ones about men's health? I seem to have more regard to addressing men's issues than men, including you.
You could, of course, have started a thread about the Chartist movement and what it achieved for men but you decided to use a thread about a really significant, historical moment for women and equality to *whatabout* men. Now, where have I seen that before?
what i wrote is factualy correct ... if that pisses you off then quite frankly tough "It's not revisionist. Two things happened. One is getting press prominence, I grant you that, but the other has not been denied or revised. If you care, do something about it. | |||
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"i just wonder why the centenary of finally achieving mens suffrage has been wifewashed over, hijacked and it then being rolled out as the centenary of womans suffrage, when that is in 2028 .... very odd
I started a thread last week. Maybe it (and the thread) is being ignored because men don't bother to understand they haven't ALL had power. After all, today's centenary only achieved partial suffrage for women.
we should be commemorating and celebrating the chartists today, but not one mention of the men that laid down their lives for full suffrage ... it's pure revisionism
It really isn't but if you, and other men, are exercised about this speak up elsewhere where more than a handful of people will read it.
I have been noting men achieving full voting rights to a much wider audience than this, alongside the fact that women were granted a partial vote.
If this is just more kvetching on here and no actual activity then I take from that that you are not really interested but just want to throw in a 'what about men? boo hoo', which happens on a regular basis on here.
Or are you expecting women to raise it on your behalf? Why is it that when I am here I end up starting the International Men's Day thread? Or the ones about men's health? I seem to have more regard to addressing men's issues than men, including you.
You could, of course, have started a thread about the Chartist movement and what it achieved for men but you decided to use a thread about a really significant, historical moment for women and equality to *whatabout* men. Now, where have I seen that before?
what i wrote is factualy correct ... if that pisses you off then quite frankly tough "Here is the thread I started last week that got not a lot of interest: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/723385 | |||
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"Tbh - whether it's men, women or aliens - voting is a bit of a joke amongst the general population. I speak to many young people in particular and it amazes me how many are clueless as to what right and left wing represents in politics (and they want to lower the voting age - Jeez!) and to what the policies of the various parties are. It's the lefties that want the voting age lowered because they know the majority of brainless morons will vote Labour (great uncle Jeremy) because that's what young, foolish people do. It's not only the young actually - a fair % of the population is as thick as two short planks and yet we think it's great to give such half wits a vote on crucial matters." Isn’t the whole point of democracy that everyone has a vote? | |||
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"It's not revisionist. Two things happened. One is getting press prominence, I grant you that, but the other has not been denied or revised. If you care, do something about it. " you're being very presumptuous ... aside from myself setting the record straight on this thread as regards to the timeline of suffrage, what exactly makes you think that i haven't 'done something about it' in other areas? | |||
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"Tbh - whether it's men, women or aliens - voting is a bit of a joke amongst the general population. I speak to many young people in particular and it amazes me how many are clueless as to what right and left wing represents in politics (and they want to lower the voting age - Jeez!) and to what the policies of the various parties are. It's the lefties that want the voting age lowered because they know the majority of brainless morons will vote Labour (great uncle Jeremy) because that's what young, foolish people do. It's not only the young actually - a fair % of the population is as thick as two short planks and yet we think it's great to give such half wits a vote on crucial matters. Isn’t the whole point of democracy that everyone has a vote? " Just because we've always done it that way doesn't mean it's the best way! Women who were allowed to vote were the rich elites - the plebs got it later. What's the difference between a 17yr old and an 18yr old? Maturity varies greatly between individuals. If they can raise the pension age as they have done, they can lower the voting age. If you can join the armed force's you should be able to vote! | |||
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