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"You see rattled a few cages already in this thread hehehehehehe Yes polls do not show the true figure it show a sample number i prefer the the real true figure but its always good to rattle a few cages lol Even with all the SNP bad stories the SNP are still miles ahead in the polls not working unionists might need to lie more lol " Where is anyone rattled? | |||
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead "Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change? | |||
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change? "Scotland will be unionist free lol | |||
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change?
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change?
Scotland will be unionist free lol
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change?
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"You see rattled a few cages already in this thread hehehehehehe Yes polls do not show the true figure it show a sample number i prefer the the real true figure but its always good to rattle a few cages lol Even with all the SNP bad stories the SNP are still miles ahead in the polls not working unionists might need to lie more lol " Must admit, I still say I vote SNP in YOUGOV and other polls, but truth is, my vote for snp has been removed, as long as they continue the way they are going in Scottish politics they will no longer receive my vote. | |||
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
Imagine the SNP won every council, every Scottish seat in Westminster, every single seat in the Scottish parliament, and every Scottish MEP seat. What would change?
Scotland will be unionist free lol
Lol now that would be good "So neither of you can name 1 single policy change. | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe "  Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election. | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election. "Not any chance of that happening | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe " Using your own figures the snp will have more msp / mp. Will Scotland be unionist free I doubt it as the other parties added together are much more. Your right I do love a good poll. When people see their wages dropping next year due to increased taxation it will be interesting to see if there is a change in boring intention! !! After all there won't be huge rises in the services the government provide. The tax take will go down due to spending being reduced in retail etc so guess what personal taxation will need to go up again. | |||
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"Great stuff, very good to hear The SNP are streets ahead. When are you having your referendum vote on leaving the Union? Bet it can't come quick enough as the majority obviously want it. Then there will be the sorting out of the small print of joining that other Union, the European Union. A truly independent Scotland then..... " | |||
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"Can I ask where this poll is published? ? Just so I can read it " Survation | |||
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"11 years of SNP government in Scotland and with the sad bastards pro unionists doing everything they can to attack the SNP and put Scotland all doom and gloom and still the SNP are miles ahead lol Must be doing something right eh " So the poll wouldn't change one single thing then | |||
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"Great poll - the unionist doom mongers have nothing to give Scotland . And nearly all politicians in England either don't care about Scotland or have no idea what the Scottish political scene looks like " How many SNP politicians know what's going on in Cambridgeshire? | |||
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"11 years of SNP government in Scotland and with the sad bastards pro unionists doing everything they can to attack the SNP and put Scotland all doom and gloom and still the SNP are miles ahead lol Must be doing something right eh So the poll wouldn't change one single thing then "So you agree CLCC the SNP must be doing something right in Scotland that they have the voters trust ? | |||
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"11 years of SNP government in Scotland and with the sad bastards pro unionists doing everything they can to attack the SNP and put Scotland all doom and gloom and still the SNP are miles ahead lol Must be doing something right eh So the poll wouldn't change one single thing then
So you agree CLCC the SNP must be doing something right in Scotland that they have the voters trust ? "No necessarily !!! It depends on how the voter views the opposition as well as the standing party's popularity! ! | |||
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"I'm assuming this thread is to indicate the likelihood of Indyref 2 and subsequent victory of the Yes camp? Well saying the SNP is very popular is certainly one thing. But saying it indicates a win for Yes is another. I know for a fact that many Scottish voters hate being in the EU as much as the Union. So if the campaign for another referendum is fought on a platform of "We are doing this to stop us being forced out of the EU, which we will rejoin asap when independent", then those people will have a difficult choice to make. I'd say a victory for the nationalists is anything but certain. " Nope the two polls i put up show SNP mikes ahead thats the point I think some forgot some voters may not like independence fair enough but they vote SNP because they are sticking up for Scotlands interests Also if you notice in that poll on the site on voting for independence its at 46% no campaign has even started yet and its not going down its on the rise and we all dont know the final brexit deal not bad eh | |||
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"11 years of SNP government in Scotland and with the sad bastards pro unionists doing everything they can to attack the SNP and put Scotland all doom and gloom and still the SNP are miles ahead lol Must be doing something right eh So the poll wouldn't change one single thing then
So you agree CLCC the SNP must be doing something right in Scotland that they have the voters trust ? "I think in the vast majority of cases that people vote for a party that they like, therefore I believe people vote SNP because they like SNP. You in the other hand Kinky, we arguing just yesterday that people vote for party X to stop Party Y winning the seat. So by your logic, people don't actually like the SNP, they just vote SNP to stop another party getting in. | |||
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"11 years of SNP government in Scotland and with the sad bastards pro unionists doing everything they can to attack the SNP and put Scotland all doom and gloom and still the SNP are miles ahead lol Must be doing something right eh So the poll wouldn't change one single thing then
So you agree CLCC the SNP must be doing something right in Scotland that they have the voters trust ?
No necessarily !!!
It depends on how the voter views the opposition as well as the standing party's popularity! !"Yeah well i think after 11 years you know what Scotland think of the unionist branch offices eh ? Lol | |||
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"I'm assuming this thread is to indicate the likelihood of Indyref 2 and subsequent victory of the Yes camp? Well saying the SNP is very popular is certainly one thing. But saying it indicates a win for Yes is another. I know for a fact that many Scottish voters hate being in the EU as much as the Union. So if the campaign for another referendum is fought on a platform of "We are doing this to stop us being forced out of the EU, which we will rejoin asap when independent", then those people will have a difficult choice to make. I'd say a victory for the nationalists is anything but certain. Nope the two polls i put up show SNP mikes ahead thats the point I think some forgot some voters may not like independence fair enough but they vote SNP because they are sticking up for Scotlands interests Also if you notice in that poll on the site on voting for independence its at 46% no campaign has even started yet and its not going down its on the rise and we all dont know the final brexit deal not bad eh " Yes but as I said, if your voters hate the EU more than the Union, then there are already 38% of the votes in the bag should the SNP platform continue with "we will rejoin the EU". Supporting the SNP does not necessarily mean pro-EU. | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election.
Not any chance of that happening "Every chance of it happening actually. Look at the last 3 general elections SNP have taken those Scottish Labour seats away, historically the Labour party rely on Scottish seats in general elections to get a majority. While the SNP have done well over the last 3 general elections it's Labour who have suffered and the tories who have ended up with the most seats overall.  | |||
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"You see rattled a few cages already in this thread hehehehehehe Yes polls do not show the true figure it show a sample number i prefer the the real true figure but its always good to rattle a few cages lol Even with all the SNP bad stories the SNP are still miles ahead in the polls not working unionists might need to lie more lol " You do realise that unionist parties still take over 60% of the vote in all3 of those polls so keep dreaming of independance as thats all it is a dream | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election.
Not any chance of that happening
Every chance of it happening actually. Look at the last 3 general elections SNP have taken those Scottish Labour seats away, historically the Labour party rely on Scottish seats in general elections to get a majority. While the SNP have done well over the last 3 general elections it's Labour who have suffered and the tories who have ended up with the most seats overall. "wrong Labour in the last two elections didnt rely on Scottish seats to get a majority they would still be out on their asses 2015 Labour got 232 add 59 scottish seats = 291 way short of the 326 needed for majorty in Westminster 2017 Labour got 262 add 59 Scottish seats = 321 still short of the majority seats needed to form a majority government blew that out the water lol We in Scotland can see without any doubt now the unionist so called fake parties are only branches offices of their London based parties and will always take their orders from London Ruth Davidson Richard Leonard Willie Rennie Those three are only puppets taking their orders fron their masters in London Scotland has figured this out Anyone dare to prove me wrong ? | |||
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"You see rattled a few cages already in this thread hehehehehehe Yes polls do not show the true figure it show a sample number i prefer the the real true figure but its always good to rattle a few cages lol Even with all the SNP bad stories the SNP are still miles ahead in the polls not working unionists might need to lie more lol You do realise that unionist parties still take over 60% of the vote in all3 of those polls so keep dreaming of independance as thats all it is a dream" And you do realise the question asked was ' Who would you vote for in an election? ', not 'do you want to separate from the UK?' Believe it or not, they are not the same question. The SNP is the party in coalition power and their ratings are increasing: ergo they must be doing something very right or the other parties something very wrong. | |||
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"Polls don't always get it right do they! How many polls in Scotland correctly predicted the SNP would lose a load of seats at the last general election? " Quite a few actually! | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election.
Not any chance of that happening "Don't count your chickens. If Labour don't start to take a different and much clearer approach on BREXIT they won't get the anti-BREXIT bounce they got in 2017. Corbyn is not seen by all as the great savour. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. " Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? | |||
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"Now since unionists love their polls here is two but then again you wont believe them as it has the SNP way ahead Latest @Survation Holyrood poll: Constituency SNP 42% (+3) Labour 25% (-3) Tories 25% (+1) Liberal Democrats 6% (-1) Other 2% (-) List SNP 33% (+1) Tories 23% (+2) Labour 23% (-1) Green 9% (-1) Liberal Democrats 8% (-2) UKIP 3% (-) Other 1% (-1 NEW: Scottish Westminster Voting Intention for @Daily_Record: SNP 39% (+2); LAB 27% (-2); CON 24% (NC); LD 7% (NC); Other 3% (NC Now i do prefer to see the real true figures but i thought since unionists love polls it was too good not too lmao hehehehehehehehe Great stuff keep up the good work in Scotland. The more Scottish seats that the SNP keep away from Labour the more likely it is the Conservatives will win the next general election.
Not any chance of that happening
Don't count your chickens. If Labour don't start to take a different and much clearer approach on BREXIT they won't get the anti-BREXIT bounce they got in 2017. Corbyn is not seen by all as the great savour."Corbyn ain't winning Scotland over that's for damn sure Hell the fanny doesn't even know you can be outside the EU and still be in the single market and he doesn't know Scotland has its own laws He attacks the SNP on stuff like zero hour contacts and the bedroom tax Yet in Wales were Labour are in government still have both lol I thought Corbyn would be great for Labour instead he has been a big disappointment He is anti trident yet as Labour leader he will not scrap it piss poor The ring wing Labour mps still own his ass | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ??????" Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone | |||
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"But where would the queen go on holiday? " By any luck into a council hoose and pay her own way instead of fleecing off the tax payer lol | |||
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"Would an independent Scotland be part of the commonwealth? " That would be upto the people of Scotland The answer is i want fuck all to do with the head of state its outdated piece of shite Couldnt give a flying fuck about unelected kings or queens its outdated and needed now a days the british empire died long ago and its the UK shame is nothing to be proud of I would prefer Scotland to become a free republic Where we elect people to govern us not to ruled over The UK will come to end the youth will make sure of it | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone " You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can | |||
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"Would an independent Scotland be part of the commonwealth? That would be upto the people of Scotland The answer is i want fuck all to do with the head of state its outdated piece of shite Couldnt give a flying fuck about unelected kings or queens its outdated and needed now a days the british empire died long ago and its the UK shame is nothing to be proud of I would prefer Scotland to become a free republic Where we elect people to govern us not to ruled over The UK will come to end the youth will make sure of it" Didn't the people of Scotland vote to remain part of the UK? | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can "I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
"Because like alot of things they come in Cycles , and your time to rise n be a nation again will come. We are patient Cousins albeit the bigger cousin. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
"You said it would be up to the people of Scotland. The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK. The English did not get a vote. The Welsh did not get a vote. And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote. The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own. It's called democracy. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy."Wrong on many levels 1. Yes Scotland voted to remain part of the UK but demcocracy is not a one off event where the question on Scottish independence can never be asked again as believe ut or not people in a democracy is allowed to change its mind lol 2. There was English , Welsh and Northen Irish people who live in Scotland did vote on Scottish independence Those living outside of Scotland why should they get a say ? I wouldnt go poking my nose and want a vote on English independence because i dont live in England there is the big clue lol | |||
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"I'm assuming this thread is to indicate the likelihood of Indyref 2 and subsequent victory of the Yes camp? Well saying the SNP is very popular is certainly one thing. But saying it indicates a win for Yes is another. I know for a fact that many Scottish voters hate being in the EU as much as the Union. So if the campaign for another referendum is fought on a platform of "We are doing this to stop us being forced out of the EU, which we will rejoin asap when independent", then those people will have a difficult choice to make. I'd say a victory for the nationalists is anything but certain. Nope the two polls i put up show SNP mikes ahead thats the point I think some forgot some voters may not like independence fair enough but they vote SNP because they are sticking up for Scotlands interests Also if you notice in that poll on the site on voting for independence its at 46% no campaign has even started yet and its not going down its on the rise and we all dont know the final brexit deal not bad eh Yes but as I said, if your voters hate the EU more than the Union, then there are already 38% of the votes in the bag should the SNP platform continue with "we will rejoin the EU". Supporting the SNP does not necessarily mean pro-EU. " Again using the survey figures more people are gonna vote for a unionist party but the vote will be split 3 ways !!! | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
Because like alot of things they come in Cycles , and your time to rise n be a nation again will come. We are patient Cousins albeit the bigger cousin."Plus if you have an ailing family member you don't just cast them adrift. We are together through good and bad. The highs the lows. Pretty brutal you Nationalist. You vote to stay now you clutch at straws hoping we will cut you adrift when as you say you drain. Sounds like dark at end of your tunnel . Light at end of ours. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ??????" Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy."So for research. If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK. In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK? | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy.
So for research.
If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK.
In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?"First off you have to understand things If Scotland gained independence then those unionist branch offices would have to register as an actually party not fake parties Then when an election happens in an independent Scotland if those registered parties put forward a policy in a manifesto to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England again to form the UK again and win the election yes they would have a mandate for a referendum to reform the UK union how hard is that to understand ? HEHEHE Anyway you would have a big problem with that as 300 years + ago when the treaty was signed on the act of the union to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England it was based on that their would be ONE PARLIAMENT for the whole of the UK Do you think people in Scotland will be ready to hand over Holyrood for Westminster rule again ? Anyway Tony war criminal Blair breached the act of the union back giving Scotland back its own devolved parliament I mean i thought that was the whole point of the UK was to unite Scotland and England and create one parliament ooppsss did i really let slip ? So sorry hehehe | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy.
So for research.
If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK.
In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?
First off you have to understand things
If Scotland gained independence then those unionist branch offices would have to register as an actually party not fake parties
Then when an election happens in an independent Scotland if those registered parties put forward a policy in a manifesto to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England again to form the UK again and win the election yes they would have a mandate for a referendum to reform the UK union how hard is that to understand ? HEHEHE
Anyway you would have a big problem with that as 300 years + ago when the treaty was signed on the act of the union to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England it was based on that their would be ONE PARLIAMENT for the whole of the UK
Do you think people in Scotland will be ready to hand over Holyrood for Westminster rule again ?
Anyway Tony war criminal Blair breached the act of the union back giving Scotland back its own devolved parliament
I mean i thought that was the whole point of the UK was to unite Scotland and England and create one parliament ooppsss did i really let slip ? So sorry hehehe "So your answer is no. You wouldn't give the people of Scotland the chance to rejoin the UK. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy.
So for research.
If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK.
In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?
First off you have to understand things
If Scotland gained independence then those unionist branch offices would have to register as an actually party not fake parties
Then when an election happens in an independent Scotland if those registered parties put forward a policy in a manifesto to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England again to form the UK again and win the election yes they would have a mandate for a referendum to reform the UK union how hard is that to understand ? HEHEHE
Anyway you would have a big problem with that as 300 years + ago when the treaty was signed on the act of the union to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England it was based on that their would be ONE PARLIAMENT for the whole of the UK
Do you think people in Scotland will be ready to hand over Holyrood for Westminster rule again ?
Anyway Tony war criminal Blair breached the act of the union back giving Scotland back its own devolved parliament
I mean i thought that was the whole point of the UK was to unite Scotland and England and create one parliament ooppsss did i really let slip ? So sorry hehehe
So your answer is no.
You wouldn't give the people of Scotland the chance to rejoin the UK."Where did i say that find me where you think i said such a thing ? Here is it more clear for you IN an independent Scotland if those that are registered as actual parties put forward in a manifesto to rejoin the UK and they won that election to have a referendum then yes they would have a mandate for it If they win that referendum then yes we would have to respect the wishes of the people and rejoin the UK got it now ? strange democracy you live in hehehe | |||
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"Plus ,To be fair not so long ago we had a Scottish PM. That was a huge pacifier I think regards the vote to remain.... Actually we had two. Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. He kept that quiet, rather than Google it . Do tell???" Born in Edinburgh. Curiosity got better of me. Wonder if he used his vote | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy.
So for research.
If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK.
In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?
First off you have to understand things
If Scotland gained independence then those unionist branch offices would have to register as an actually party not fake parties
Then when an election happens in an independent Scotland if those registered parties put forward a policy in a manifesto to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England again to form the UK again and win the election yes they would have a mandate for a referendum to reform the UK union how hard is that to understand ? HEHEHE
Anyway you would have a big problem with that as 300 years + ago when the treaty was signed on the act of the union to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England it was based on that their would be ONE PARLIAMENT for the whole of the UK
Do you think people in Scotland will be ready to hand over Holyrood for Westminster rule again ?
Anyway Tony war criminal Blair breached the act of the union back giving Scotland back its own devolved parliament
I mean i thought that was the whole point of the UK was to unite Scotland and England and create one parliament ooppsss did i really let slip ? So sorry hehehe
So your answer is no.
You wouldn't give the people of Scotland the chance to rejoin the UK.
Where did i say that find me where you think i said such a thing ?
Here is it more clear for you
IN an independent Scotland if those that are registered as actual parties put forward in a manifesto to rejoin the UK and they won that election to have a referendum then yes they would have a mandate for it
If they win that referendum then yes we would have to respect the wishes of the people and rejoin the UK got it now ?
strange democracy you live in hehehe
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Good luck on getting an answer lol No person can honestly believe if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ? They know in Whitehall they need Scotland money lose it and their gravy train is gone You the Scottish voted to remain together. You can
I didnt vote to remain part of the corrupt UK
So if Scotland is such a drain on Westminster why then keep Scotland in the UK ?
You said it would be up to the people of Scotland.
The people of Scotland had a vote and decided to be part of the UK.
The English did not get a vote.
The Welsh did not get a vote.
And the people of Northern Ireland did not get a vote.
The people of Scotland decided to remain part of the UK all on their own.
It's called democracy.
So for research.
If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK.
In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?
First off you have to understand things
If Scotland gained independence then those unionist branch offices would have to register as an actually party not fake parties
Then when an election happens in an independent Scotland if those registered parties put forward a policy in a manifesto to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England again to form the UK again and win the election yes they would have a mandate for a referendum to reform the UK union how hard is that to understand ? HEHEHE
Anyway you would have a big problem with that as 300 years + ago when the treaty was signed on the act of the union to unite the Kingdoms of Scotland and England it was based on that their would be ONE PARLIAMENT for the whole of the UK
Do you think people in Scotland will be ready to hand over Holyrood for Westminster rule again ?
Anyway Tony war criminal Blair breached the act of the union back giving Scotland back its own devolved parliament
I mean i thought that was the whole point of the UK was to unite Scotland and England and create one parliament ooppsss did i really let slip ? So sorry hehehe
So your answer is no.
You wouldn't give the people of Scotland the chance to rejoin the UK.
Where did i say that find me where you think i said such a thing ?
Here is it more clear for you
IN an independent Scotland if those that are registered as actual parties put forward in a manifesto to rejoin the UK and they won that election to have a referendum then yes they would have a mandate for it
If they win that referendum then yes we would have to respect the wishes of the people and rejoin the UK got it now ?
strange democracy you live in hehehe
I'm not interested in that.
What I am asking is would the Prime Minister/President/Dictator or who ever would be in charge of an independent Scotland give the people of Scotland the chance to have a vote to rejoin the UK?"Now your changing your question this is what you asked "If Scotland had a vote tomorrow and decided to leave the UK. In 4 years time would you allow there to be another vote asking the Scottish people if they wanted to rejoin the UK?" Lol Helllooooooo!!!! Whoever wins the election in an independent a has mandate to deliver their policies if a party thats registered wins the election on their manfiesto to have referendum on rejoining the UK and a yes vote is returned then yeah thats what will happen Lmao | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol " See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. | |||
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"OK kinky let's say this is real and SNP won and Scotland won to leave UK. Do you think SNP can manage running a similar version of NHS, DWP and also prison's let alone having free medicine and school's. If Scotland then be accepted to join the European Union how much would SNP gave to them, then you got free movement of people coming have Scotland got enough jobs for them and housing and how do the SNP manage to control them from not going in the UK." I think there is questions somewhere in there lol 1. YES i believe the government we the people in Scotland vote for can manage ALL affairs 2. Wow so right now all reversed power at Westminster lies with Westminster not with the EU that means Westminster have power to do something about immigration but no no leave voters think my god its all the EU fault lmao So why do you think an independent Scotland will hand over all powers to the EU ? Lol 3. You say that like freedom of movement is a bad thing NO ITS NOT!!!!! tell me where would you be with all these non UK born citizens treating you in hospitals or making your food in take aways ? People out on an independent Scotland would be most welcome i couldnt give a flying fuck where your born you wanna call Scotland your home then your fucking Scottish to me | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. " CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? | |||
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"OK kinky let's say this is real and SNP won and Scotland won to leave UK. Do you think SNP can manage running a similar version of NHS, DWP and also prison's let alone having free medicine and school's. If Scotland then be accepted to join the European Union how much would SNP gave to them, then you got free movement of people coming have Scotland got enough jobs for them and housing and how do the SNP manage to control them from not going in the UK. I think there is questions somewhere in there lol 1. YES i believe the government we the people in Scotland vote for can manage ALL affairs 2. Wow so right now all reversed power at Westminster lies with Westminster not with the EU that means Westminster have power to do something about immigration but no no leave voters think my god its all the EU fault lmao So why do you think an independent Scotland will hand over all powers to the EU ? Lol 3. You say that like freedom of movement is a bad thing NO ITS NOT!!!!! tell me where would you be with all these non UK born citizens treating you in hospitals or making your food in take aways ? People out on an independent Scotland would be most welcome i couldnt give a flying fuck where your born you wanna call Scotland your home then your fucking Scottish to me " Since recently you like opinion pills. Scotland almost mirror England's desire to reduce immigration! ! I am not saying all imigration is bad but I would love better education and training in this country to give people a chance. Japan has a very aging population and really don't like imigration so they work around the problem. I think we need to look outside the box on this subject !!! | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ?" So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! " Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee" You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?  | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking? "See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ? CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ? | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!! "Lol Fabio shhhh don't let kinky know this !!!!! I would pay good money to see his face after the next Holyrood elections | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!! "Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder? And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ? "It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc. | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc. "There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol CLCC you didnt answer my questions CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ? | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc.
There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol
CLCC you didnt answer my questions
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc.
There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol
CLCC you didnt answer my questions
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
I vote Labour. "So you believe Scottish Labour branch office have Scotland's best interests at heart ? Now since down in London Corbyn is leader do you not think its piss poor that he has no clue that Scotland has its own laws ? Also do you not think its piss poor that Corbyn attacks the SNP on stuff like the bedroom tax and zero hour contracts when the so called one Labour party their branch office in Wales where they are in government voted against scrapping zero hour contracts and wont mitigate the bedroom tax ? Labour had its chance in Scotland 100+ and still Scotland does not have home rule Now as a Labour man CLCC you should know the history of Labour and where it was formed and who founded the Labour party his name would be Keir Hardie good man he stood on a platform of deliver home rule for Scotland that was on of Labour big values where is that been delivered for Scotland ? hehehehehehe | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) if it was just based on constituencys.... you wouldn't win a majority either.....
2) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
3) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc.
There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol
CLCC you didnt answer my questions
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
I vote Labour.
So you believe Scottish Labour branch office have Scotland's best interests at heart ?
Now since down in London Corbyn is leader do you not think its piss poor that he has no clue that Scotland has its own laws ?
Also do you not think its piss poor that Corbyn attacks the SNP on stuff like the bedroom tax and zero hour contracts when the so called one Labour party their branch office in Wales where they are in government voted against scrapping zero hour contracts and wont mitigate the bedroom tax ?
Labour had its chance in Scotland 100+ and still Scotland does not have home rule
Now as a Labour man CLCC you should know the history of Labour and where it was formed and who founded the Labour party his name would be Keir Hardie good man he stood on a platform of deliver home rule for Scotland that was on of Labour big values where is that been delivered for Scotland ? hehehehehehe "I don't believe in home rule for Scotland, I believe in the union. | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth......."Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question 1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder? 2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc.
There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol
CLCC you didnt answer my questions
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
I vote Labour.
So you believe Scottish Labour branch office have Scotland's best interests at heart ?
Now since down in London Corbyn is leader do you not think its piss poor that he has no clue that Scotland has its own laws ?
Also do you not think its piss poor that Corbyn attacks the SNP on stuff like the bedroom tax and zero hour contracts when the so called one Labour party their branch office in Wales where they are in government voted against scrapping zero hour contracts and wont mitigate the bedroom tax ?
Labour had its chance in Scotland 100+ and still Scotland does not have home rule
Now as a Labour man CLCC you should know the history of Labour and where it was formed and who founded the Labour party his name would be Keir Hardie good man he stood on a platform of deliver home rule for Scotland that was on of Labour big values where is that been delivered for Scotland ? hehehehehehe
I don't believe in home rule for Scotland, I believe in the union. "Wow and here you are saying you are a Labour man and yet you dont believe in one of Labour biggest values is to deliver Home Rule for Scotland Not so much socialist eh you sound right at home with New Labour and the right wing side of the Labour party hehehe I wonder CLCC whats your views on Keir Hardie did you think is was asshole for wanting to deliver Scotland Home Rule ? HEHEHEEHEE | |||
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"So what? Is there a general election coming up? SNP are impotent in Westminster, and already in government in Scotland, so nothing would change. Impotent in Westminster so why are they so intent on hanging on to us? ?????? Of course they are impotent in Westminster. Can you name one law that the SNP have passed in the house of commons? UK parliament remember!!! What are you trying to say CLCC ? Do you not want SNP mp's representing the Scottish people in a UK parilament ? How strange lol Me personally i want to bring our Scottish mps back home to Edinburgh and have fuck all to do with that shit hole down in London called Westminster lol See, you can't name a single law they have passed, you agree that they are impotent. CLCC do SNP stand in English seats ? Answer is NO they do not!!! So hint the SNP will never be the government at UK level I will point this out to you Westminster is suppose to be a UK parliament correct ? Do you not want SNP mp's who were elected by the people of Scotland to represent the Scottish people ? So they are never going to be in government, can never pass a law, or implement a single policy. That makes them totally, and utterly, impotent! Ok fucking that shite back and look at what your saying So question is you think they are impotent is it not better to have our Scottish elected mps sent back home to Holyrood ? Lmao Do unionists take something that doesnt make them think or something heheheehee You are the one who voted for an impotent party that can't make a difference. Which one of us isn't thinking?
See now its starting to became really close that you seem very anti Scottish lol
What now getting at ? So people in Scotland have no right to elect a party that has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
It's not anti Scottish, it's political reality. There is nothing to stop people voting for an impotent party, that's their right. It's no difference to those who vote Plaid Cymru, or most of the NI parties, Monster Raving Looney Party etc.
There is that shit again i am getting accused out i will keep pointing it out now since you all thought your were being smart lol
CLCC you didnt answer my questions
CLCC out of interest then who do you believe has Scotland's best interests at heart ?
I vote Labour.
So you believe Scottish Labour branch office have Scotland's best interests at heart ?
Now since down in London Corbyn is leader do you not think its piss poor that he has no clue that Scotland has its own laws ?
Also do you not think its piss poor that Corbyn attacks the SNP on stuff like the bedroom tax and zero hour contracts when the so called one Labour party their branch office in Wales where they are in government voted against scrapping zero hour contracts and wont mitigate the bedroom tax ?
Labour had its chance in Scotland 100+ and still Scotland does not have home rule
Now as a Labour man CLCC you should know the history of Labour and where it was formed and who founded the Labour party his name would be Keir Hardie good man he stood on a platform of deliver home rule for Scotland that was on of Labour big values where is that been delivered for Scotland ? hehehehehehe
I don't believe in home rule for Scotland, I believe in the union.
Wow and here you are saying you are a Labour man and yet you dont believe in one of Labour biggest values is to deliver Home Rule for Scotland
Not so much socialist eh you sound right at home with New Labour and the right wing side of the Labour party hehehe
I wonder CLCC whats your views on Keir Hardie did you think is was asshole for wanting to deliver Scotland Home Rule ? HEHEHEEHEE"One what page of the last Labour manifesto did it mention home rule? | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
"you are right.... can i add two more names for you All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
"I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe 1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder? 2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?"1. No one 2. The electorate. | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate. "I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake "No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good! | |||
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" I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe 1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder? 2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?" 1).... interesting history.... it is basically a copy of the new zealand system..... and it was was advocated and agreed by ALL the UK parties in the general devolution bills for Scotland, Wales and London.... it was actually advocated by the Smallers parties at the time such as the SNP and PC in wales because it wil reward smaller parties who would not get representation under FPTP (if you want to call out someone who did politics as part of their degree course and wrote a paper about it then be my guest!) 2) there is a movement to say that if you don't win an constiuency ballot you should not be on the list..... but you can't call if out if your own leader has taken advantage of it TWICE.......
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake
No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good! "Fucking hell!!!! No one vote Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly they were on the list vote fuck sake!!!! In the constituency vote you are voting for an individual duh!!!!! The list vote your voting for a party/branch office So again just to spell it out CLCC no one voted for Kezia Kelly or Sarwar you think you get it yet ? | |||
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" The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake " the same people didn't vote for nicola sturgeon TWICE....... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP! so does the same thing apply? | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
"The parliament was set up that way from the beginning so I'm normal conditions one party would not have a majority! !!! Nothing to do with keeping the snp out !!! Maybe a touch of paranoia ?? | |||
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Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake
No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good!
Fucking hell!!!!
No one vote Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly they were on the list vote fuck sake!!!!
In the constituency vote you are voting for an individual duh!!!!!
The list vote your voting for a party/branch office
So again just to spell it out CLCC no one voted for Kezia Kelly or Sarwar you think you get it yet ?
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
The parliament was set up that way from the beginning so I'm normal conditions one party would not have a majority! !!!
Nothing to do with keeping the snp out !!!
Maybe a touch of paranoia ??"Yet SNP shat all over that and got a majority in 2011 oops | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
"The green party that passed the snp are only list msp so I think you should be grateful !!! | |||
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"Plus ,To be fair not so long ago we had a Scottish PM. That was a huge pacifier I think regards the vote to remain.... Actually we had two. Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. He kept that quiet, rather than Google it . Do tell??? Born in Edinburgh. Curiosity got better of me. Wonder if he used his vote" Did his Scottish accent not give it away? Gordon Brown spoke for the remainder camp but is on record afterwards as saying he had been lied to about conditions of remaining and was furious he'd been used to propagate untruths. He did say a lot of people away from independence then regretted it And there's the crux of all this.....had it been a fair and measured election on both sides, there would not now be this rising resentment in Scotland leading to an increase in SNP popularity. No one outside of Scotland or who wasn't IN Scotland at the run up to the vote can realise this and how strongly it is felt. | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake
No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good!
Fucking hell!!!!
No one vote Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly they were on the list vote fuck sake!!!!
In the constituency vote you are voting for an individual duh!!!!!
The list vote your voting for a party/branch office
So again just to spell it out CLCC no one voted for Kezia Kelly or Sarwar you think you get it yet ?
I know perfectly well how it works, I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are. So who decides how many MSPs are selected and from which lists, if not the votes of the electorate?
Ah right there is that my dick is bigger than your dick shit again
Now CLCC you got it yet
On the constituency vote your voting for an individual but Kezia , Kelly and Sarwar were not on that ballot correct ? So duh no one voted their asses!!!
They however stood on the list vote where in that ballot you are voting for the party / branch office
The party/ branch office put forward the people to sit on the list vote not the voters
Get clued up how STV works in Scotland lol"You STILL haven't answered the question! Who picks who gets elected from the list. I say it's the voters, you say it's not, so who decides? I am clued up on how it works, I've got the paper to prove it. | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake
No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good!
Fucking hell!!!!
No one vote Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly they were on the list vote fuck sake!!!!
In the constituency vote you are voting for an individual duh!!!!!
The list vote your voting for a party/branch office
So again just to spell it out CLCC no one voted for Kezia Kelly or Sarwar you think you get it yet ?
I know perfectly well how it works, I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are. So who decides how many MSPs are selected and from which lists, if not the votes of the electorate? "Ah right there is that my dick is bigger than your dick shit again Oh am so qualified to speak on it and fucking no you dont count = '' my dick is bigger than your dick'' attitude Now CLCC you got it yet On the constituency vote your voting for an individual but Kezia , Kelly and Sarwar were not on that ballot correct ? So duh no one voted their asses!!! They however stood on the list vote where in that ballot you are voting for the party / branch office The party/ branch office put forward the people to sit on the list vote not the voters Get clued up how STV works in Scotland lol | |||
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"Great stuff, very good to hear The SNP are streets ahead. When are you having your referendum vote on leaving the Union? Bet it can't come quick enough as the majority obviously want it. Then there will be the sorting out of the small print of joining that other Union, the European Union. A truly independent Scotland then..... " .. | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent" Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. | |||
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" The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake the same people didn't vote for nicola sturgeon TWICE.......got defeated TWICE, once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP! so does the same thing apply?" oooh.... i think i have just found another question kinky wont answer... | |||
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"you do know that because of the way scottish elections work that result would basically mean that instead of having an snp majority administration, you would end up having a snp minority administraion instead.... so.... yey polls!!!!!
Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
And that is your embarrassed that you think its fucking great to have people on a list vote that is not elected by the people of Scotland to get in as an MSP
a couple of things....
1) you can't throw around the "blaming the way the system works" card if you have shown that you can actually get a majority under it....
2) you do realise that you are lambasting getting msp's in under list rules when about 40% of the snp msps you would have at the next election would be msp's you got because of the list.........
you really do know how to put your foot in your mouth.......
Come on if am gonna get accused off people of not answering question
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
Those three with others stood on a list vote not the constituency vote
You know the way it should be the people of Scotland electing MSP not MSP getting in through the list vote
you are right.... can i add two more names for you
All the current party leaders in Scotland, including Nicola Sturgeon and Ruth Davidson, have at some time benefited from the “safety net” set-up
I think people can now see without a shadow of a doubt now those accusing me of not answering questions themselves are doing the that very thing hehe
1.Who made sure that the SNP couldnt win majorities in Holyrood who designed it that way i wonder?
2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
1. No one
2. The electorate.
I feel embarrassed for you hehehehe
See people this proves people outside of Scotland have no clue on how things work lol
The electorate never voted Kezia or Kelly or Sarwar as they never stood on the constituency vote they jumped on to the safe opinion which was the list vote which the voters dont get to vote on fuck sake
No? The voter don't get to chose which party they want to vote for on the list? Who decides then? This should be fucking good!
Fucking hell!!!!
No one vote Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly they were on the list vote fuck sake!!!!
In the constituency vote you are voting for an individual duh!!!!!
The list vote your voting for a party/branch office
So again just to spell it out CLCC no one voted for Kezia Kelly or Sarwar you think you get it yet ?
I know perfectly well how it works, I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are. So who decides how many MSPs are selected and from which lists, if not the votes of the electorate?
Ah right there is that my dick is bigger than your dick shit again
Now CLCC you got it yet
On the constituency vote your voting for an individual but Kezia , Kelly and Sarwar were not on that ballot correct ? So duh no one voted their asses!!!
They however stood on the list vote where in that ballot you are voting for the party / branch office
The party/ branch office put forward the people to sit on the list vote not the voters
Get clued up how STV works in Scotland lol
You STILL haven't answered the question! Who picks who gets elected from the list. I say it's the voters, you say it's not, so who decides?
I am clued up on how it works, I've got the paper to prove it. "Come in kinky, does the PM in Westminster determine how many MSPs from the Party List get elected? Maybe the Queen? Aliens? If not the electorate, when who? I can't believe how ignorant you are about the system used in Scotland! | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you!" For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood " so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!!" But who voted for the SNP on the Party List? Kinky says it wasn't the electorate, so who was it? | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe" I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland! | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland!" Wow just fucking wow i have seen it all know the true colours of the hardcore yoons come out So the british empire that apart of that history is Slavery and that is something to be proud of how ? I am ashamed of the british empire | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland! Wow just fucking wow i have seen it all know the true colours of the hardcore yoons come out So the british empire that apart of that history is Slavery and that is something to be proud of how ? I am ashamed of the british empire " Well the British Empire didn't invent slavery but were the first big nation to end it. The Royal Navy patrolled the waters off Africa to release slaves. | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland! Wow just fucking wow i have seen it all know the true colours of the hardcore yoons come out So the british empire that apart of that history is Slavery and that is something to be proud of how ? I am ashamed of the british empire Well the British Empire didn't invent slavery but were the first big nation to end it. The Royal Navy patrolled the waters off Africa to release slaves. " Ah quick detour there So do you still stand by this statement then '' I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever'' Or are you ashamed now of the British empire ? I will be clear it makes me sick to think we were ever part of slavery | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland! Wow just fucking wow i have seen it all know the true colours of the hardcore yoons come out So the british empire that apart of that history is Slavery and that is something to be proud of how ? I am ashamed of the british empire Well the British Empire didn't invent slavery but were the first big nation to end it. The Royal Navy patrolled the waters off Africa to release slaves. Ah quick detour there So do you still stand by this statement then '' I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever'' Or are you ashamed now of the British empire ? I will be clear it makes me sick to think we were ever part of slavery " Are you ashamed the British Empire helped bring an end to slavery? I am most certainly not. | |||
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"Same poll 64.0% of 16-34 year olds back Scottish independence. 79.7% of 16-34 year olds back remaining in the EU. Told you the youth are not dumb and is the future and they can see time is up on the UK union Sooner or later Scotland will become independent Thing is with polls like this is as people get older and wiser they tend to change their thinking. You go to work, buy a house, get married and start a family. You then weigh up what is good and what is bad. Would being and independent Scotland be better than part of the UK? Nobody knows for sure if it's a yes or no. Lets twist it would an independent England be better off part of the UK ? I mean you have the UKIP fannies telling people Scottish people are subsidy junkies and we dont pay our own way or have any revenue thats made in Scotland So why again if Scotland such a damn drain on the rest of the UK why keep Scotland ? Well apart the fact that we are one nation. We are family, work together, live together, fight and defend together. We have a common history, goals, aims and ambition. I really have no idea why we keep you! For fuck sake unionists need to shake themselves and come up one side thing So now the UK is one nation and there is not 4 nations in the UK ? MAake your fucking mind up lol Yeah history like the British empire you proud of that history ? hehehe I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever. That's who we are. Even if Scotland was to become Independent your history would show you were part of the British Empire. That is unless the SNP decide to change all the history books in Scotland! Wow just fucking wow i have seen it all know the true colours of the hardcore yoons come out So the british empire that apart of that history is Slavery and that is something to be proud of how ? I am ashamed of the british empire Well the British Empire didn't invent slavery but were the first big nation to end it. The Royal Navy patrolled the waters off Africa to release slaves. Ah quick detour there So do you still stand by this statement then '' I'm not ashamed of the British Empire what so ever'' Or are you ashamed now of the British empire ? I will be clear it makes me sick to think we were ever part of slavery Are you ashamed the British Empire helped bring an end to slavery? I am most certainly not." No no dont shit out the question Are you ashamed of the british empire thats history involved slavery ? Makes me sick how about you ? | |||
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"CLCC am actually still waiting on you telling me who in Scotland voted for Kezia Dugdale ? James Kelly or Anas Sarwar on the regional / list vote ? Side note i may not agree with Sarwar on alot of stuff but what he has had said about him from a fellow Labour member is shocking good to see Scottish Labour branch suspend that dickhead racist bastard! No need for it " 435,919 people. | |||
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"CLCC am actually still waiting on you telling me who in Scotland voted for Kezia Dugdale ? James Kelly or Anas Sarwar on the regional / list vote ? Side note i may not agree with Sarwar on alot of stuff but what he has had said about him from a fellow Labour member is shocking good to see Scottish Labour branch suspend that dickhead racist bastard! No need for it 435,919 people. "Oh my CLCC on the regional /list vote you do NOT vote for individual's On the 2nd ballot which is the regional/list vote you vote for the parties/branch offices I repeat you do NOT for for individual'son the list vote!! lol That CLCC means no one in the constituency of Kezia Dugdale or James Kelly or Anas Sarwar voted them in They are an MSP through the list vote which divides the transferable votes They were not elected by the people in the constituency they were rejected at the ballot box | |||
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"CLCC am actually still waiting on you telling me who in Scotland voted for Kezia Dugdale ? James Kelly or Anas Sarwar on the regional / list vote ? Side note i may not agree with Sarwar on alot of stuff but what he has had said about him from a fellow Labour member is shocking good to see Scottish Labour branch suspend that dickhead racist bastard! No need for it 435,919 people.
Oh my
CLCC on the regional /list vote you do NOT vote for individual's
On the 2nd ballot which is the regional/list vote you vote for the parties/branch offices
I repeat you do NOT for for individual'son the list vote!! lol
That CLCC means no one in the constituency of Kezia Dugdale or James Kelly or Anas Sarwar voted them in
They are an MSP through the list vote which divides the transferable votes
They were not elected by the people in the constituency they were rejected at the ballot box "430,000 people voted for them! How are the people on the list elected if people don't vote for them?!?!?!! 
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!!" fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists? "Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to? "I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe "Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!! | |||
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"I dont really take any notice of polls that only use a small amount of ppl,id like to see a poll done with over 100,000 ppl taking part getting into the housing schemes,16 to 18yr olds ect then im sure the snp would be well ahead
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!"Haw stop shouting first off I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? '' You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!! On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!! ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe "yes she wasn't...... nicola sturgeon wasn't elected by constituency TWICE, by the public vote TWICE... and on one of those occasions she also happened to be the deputy leader of the snp.. and on both those occasions, she was rescued by being on the regional list..... so again...... and want to take a stab on actually answering the question... if you are knocking people in labour for doing it.... should you not be knocking sturgeon for doing in effect taking a double stab and getting in exactly the same way? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ? "So if the electorate don't vote, Who The Fuck Does? THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
yes she wasn't......
nicola sturgeon wasn't elected by constituency TWICE, by the public vote TWICE... and on one of those occasions she also happened to be the deputy leader of the snp.. and on both those occasions, she was rescued by being on the regional list.....
so again...... and want to take a stab on actually answering the question...
if you are knocking people in labour for doing it.... should you not be knocking sturgeon for doing in effect taking a double stab and getting in exactly the same way?
"Mind telling CLCC that then and he is misleading people Sorry i will answer it just had to correct CLCC for misleading people btw thank you for backing me up as you will see i asked who in Scotland voted Kezia Dugdale and CLCC said the voters did not true Now to answer your question _abio no i do not agree with the regional list vote i would honestly prefer for it to always be the constituents that vote people fair enough i answered it ? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
yes she wasn't......
nicola sturgeon wasn't elected by constituency TWICE, by the public vote TWICE... and on one of those occasions she also happened to be the deputy leader of the snp.. and on both those occasions, she was rescued by being on the regional list.....
so again...... and want to take a stab on actually answering the question...
if you are knocking people in labour for doing it.... should you not be knocking sturgeon for doing in effect taking a double stab and getting in exactly the same way?
Mind telling CLCC that then and he is misleading people
Sorry i will answer it just had to correct CLCC for misleading people
btw thank you for backing me up as you will see i asked who in Scotland voted Kezia Dugdale and CLCC said the voters did not true
Now to answer your question _abio no i do not agree with the regional list vote i would honestly prefer for it to always be the constituents that vote people fair enough i answered it ? "The voters vote. How fucking hard is that to grasp? How ignorant of your own system are you?????. | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!"See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ? On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes "But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this! Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice! "Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards! I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do. | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice!
Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards!
I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW
you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do. "right in the regional vote which is the list vote you the Scottish people vote for parties/ branch offices you with me ? On the ballot paper on the regional list vote you do NOT vote for a candidate you only for a vote party/ branch office On the constituency vote where Kezia did NOT stand in she was NOT voted in by her constituency got it There for she is an unelected MSP she didnt get a elected by her constituency Tell me this are you saying Fabio is now wrong when she clearly said no she want voted in by her constituency ? | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice!
Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards!
I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW
you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do.
right in the regional vote which is the list vote you the Scottish people vote for parties/ branch offices you with me ?
On the ballot paper on the regional list vote you do NOT vote for a candidate you only for a vote party/ branch office
On the constituency vote where Kezia did NOT stand in she was NOT voted in by her constituency got it
There for she is an unelected MSP she didnt get a elected by her constituency
Tell me this are you saying Fabio is now wrong when she clearly said no she want voted in by her constituency ? "Hahahahahaha so you can't even answer if you have ever voted using the STV
No one has claimed in this thread that she was voted by a constituency, she was on the list, like surgeon has done, like other SNP MSPs!!!!!!!!!! But they are still elected. Or do you think there are unelected SNP MSPs too?
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"CLCC try reading this This is my question ok '' Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe " and this is Fabio's answer yes she wasn't" actually kinky, not you are spinning my answer.... yes she was voted in by a constiuancy as such....HOWEVER she was voted by the labour party, to represent Labour under the regional vote which was done via proportial representation....... the same way nicola sturgeon did for the SNP...... TWICE! so again.... if you are going to condemn kezia for getting in via the regional list, the i expect you to condemn Nicola Sturgeon with the same gusto for getting voted in via the regional list TWICE....... at the moment you are condemning kezia, but not condemning nicola..... and that is why you are being hypocritical..... in fact, there is an arguement that you could be more critical of nicola for using the same loopehole TWICE.... so.... do you finally care to correct that by using BOTH names in the same damning statements | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice!
Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards!
I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW
you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do.
right in the regional vote which is the list vote you the Scottish people vote for parties/ branch offices you with me ?
On the ballot paper on the regional list vote you do NOT vote for a candidate you only for a vote party/ branch office
On the constituency vote where Kezia did NOT stand in she was NOT voted in by her constituency got it
There for she is an unelected MSP she didnt get a elected by her constituency
Tell me this are you saying Fabio is now wrong when she clearly said no she want voted in by her constituency ?
Hahahahahaha so you can't even answer if you have ever voted using the STV
No one has claimed in this thread that she was voted by a constituency, she was on the list, like surgeon has done, like other SNP MSPs!!!!!!!!!! But they are still elected. Or do you think there are unelected SNP MSPs too?
Obviously the STV system is too complicated for you to grasp, let's try a list only system, like the one used for MEPs. Are MEPs elected? "You are as bad as Centaur you have a serious chip on your shoulder what have a rattled your cage that much sorry Anyone can read above as i did ask this ''2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? CLCC you replied to that saying '' 2. The electorate'' correct ? Wrong the electorate never voted for Kezia to be an MSP she was rejected by the voters at the ballot paper You are the one that doesnt have a scooby doo on how the STV works Also remember this demeaning remark you said to me yet to even say sorry over '' I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are'' How demeaning does that sound! It really does come across like saying Oh am so qualified to speak on it and your not = '' my dick is bigger than your dick'' attitude Do you get this is a fucking swinging site i have no problem with you we just disagree on things but you go way over the line calm down man | |||
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"CLCC try reading this This is my question ok '' Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe " and this is Fabio's answer yes she wasn't actually kinky, not you are spinning my answer.... yes she was voted in by a constiuancy as such....HOWEVER she was voted by the labour party, to represent Labour under the regional vote which was done via proportial representation....... the same way nicola sturgeon did for the SNP...... TWICE! so again.... if you are going to condemn kezia for getting in via the regional list, the i expect you to condemn Nicola Sturgeon with the same gusto for getting voted in via the regional list TWICE....... at the moment you are condemning kezia, but not condemning nicola..... and that is why you are being hypocritical..... in fact, there is an arguement that you could be more critical of nicola for using the same loopehole TWICE.... so.... do you finally care to correct that by using BOTH names in the same damning statements "The difference being Sturgeon fitted in well and is running the SNP well, even though I disagree with many of her actions Kezia was chosen by Labour and no Scots could accept or follow her, most thought she was a "pathetic wee lassie" What was left of Labour votes after many walked away when Jim Murphy destroyed Scottish Labour were totally demolished when Kezia took over. Both Jim Murphy & Kezia destroyed Scottish faith in Labour | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice!
Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards!
I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW
you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do.
right in the regional vote which is the list vote you the Scottish people vote for parties/ branch offices you with me ?
On the ballot paper on the regional list vote you do NOT vote for a candidate you only for a vote party/ branch office
On the constituency vote where Kezia did NOT stand in she was NOT voted in by her constituency got it
There for she is an unelected MSP she didnt get a elected by her constituency
Tell me this are you saying Fabio is now wrong when she clearly said no she want voted in by her constituency ?
Hahahahahaha so you can't even answer if you have ever voted using the STV
No one has claimed in this thread that she was voted by a constituency, she was on the list, like surgeon has done, like other SNP MSPs!!!!!!!!!! But they are still elected. Or do you think there are unelected SNP MSPs too?
Obviously the STV system is too complicated for you to grasp, let's try a list only system, like the one used for MEPs. Are MEPs elected?
You are as bad as Centaur you have a serious chip on your shoulder what have a rattled your cage that much sorry
Anyone can read above as i did ask this
''2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
CLCC you replied to that saying '' 2. The electorate'' correct ?
Wrong the electorate never voted for Kezia to be an MSP she was rejected by the voters at the ballot paper
You are the one that doesnt have a scooby doo on how the STV works
Also remember this demeaning remark you said to me yet to even say sorry over
'' I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are''
How demeaning does that sound!
It really does come across like saying Oh am so qualified to speak on it and your not = '' my dick is bigger than your dick'' attitude
Do you get this is a fucking swinging site i have no problem with you we just disagree on things but you go way over the line calm down man
"Saying that members of the Scottish parliament are unelected is just a straight up lie. Yet AGAIN your ignorance of the topic at hand as made you look foolish, that is your fault. If you don't know how a system works, go and educate yourself, or listen to people who do know how it works. | |||
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"Fucking hell Right the parties /branch office in Scotland decide what candidates stand on the list vote in a Holyrood election not the voters but the members of that party/ branch offce 1. Those candidates who are on the ballot of the constituency vote are elected by the voters 2. The list vote you are voting for a party /branch office not a candidate and those on the list vote are selected by the party / branch office to stand on said list vote thats how STV works in Holyrood so when nicola sturgeon gets defeated in the constituency vote TWICE.... once whilst she was deputy leader of the SNP.... and yet still becomes an msp because of the list, which you seem to be deriding for everyone else..... is that okay? because i am sure you were saying a bit higher in this very thread that the list was a bad thing!!!! fancy answering this since you were the person who brought up the topic of the msp lists?
Fabio, do you fancy telling kinky that it is your regular, average, everyday voter who decides which party they give their single transferable vote to?
I am sure Fabio will be more than happy to tell you that in the Holyrood election on regional votes you do not vote for individuals you vote for parties/ branch offices lol
Kezia Dugdale was not voted in by her constituency isn't that correct Fabio ? Only asking since CLCC needs your back up hehe
Not one single person has said that you vote for individual on the STV. BUT you have said that the electorate don't vote for the list. So if it's not the electorate, THEN WHO THE FUCK VOTES FOR THEM?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!!!!!!!
Haw stop shouting first off
I asked this remember ? ''Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ? ''
You answered the electorate that is not true!!!! stop misleading people
None voted Kezia or Sarwar or Kelly to be an MSP fact!!!!
On the regional / list vote you vote for the party / branch office you dont vote for candidates on that ballot
So again Kezia didnt get elected by the voters fact!!!
ON the regional vote it gets divided up and each time it gets transferred so the next one gets on the list as MSP but people didnt vote for the likes of Kezia all they did was vote Scottish Labour branch how fucking hard is that to understand ?
So if the electorate don't vote,
Who
The
Fuck
Does?
THEY GET ELECTED BY THE ELECTORATE!!!!!!!!
See Fabio comment CLCC as he is clearly telling you no the elecorate didnt vote Kezia Dugdale in as a MSP getting it yet ?
On the regional vote people you vote for parties/ branch offices thats how Kezia got in as an unelected MSP through the list vote that divides up and transfers the votes
But it's the electorate that vote on the list. Right? So they are elected by the electorate. I can't believe how ignorant you are about this!
Like I have asked you multiple times, and you haven't answered, because you CAN'T answer, if the electorate don't vote on the list then WHO DOES?
See kinky, you can't answer who votes for the Party lists if not the electorate! You think if you don't use reply and quote that no one will notice!
Yet AGAIN trying to avoid the reply and quote button thinking that no one will see how daft you are. Honestly kinky, trying to claim that MSPs are unelected, is RIDICULOUS levels of trolling, even by your standards!
I know you can't answer who voted for them, if not the electorate, so I KNOW
you won't answer this one either! Have you ever voted using your STV? a simple yes or no will do.
right in the regional vote which is the list vote you the Scottish people vote for parties/ branch offices you with me ?
On the ballot paper on the regional list vote you do NOT vote for a candidate you only for a vote party/ branch office
On the constituency vote where Kezia did NOT stand in she was NOT voted in by her constituency got it
There for she is an unelected MSP she didnt get a elected by her constituency
Tell me this are you saying Fabio is now wrong when she clearly said no she want voted in by her constituency ?
Hahahahahaha so you can't even answer if you have ever voted using the STV
No one has claimed in this thread that she was voted by a constituency, she was on the list, like surgeon has done, like other SNP MSPs!!!!!!!!!! But they are still elected. Or do you think there are unelected SNP MSPs too?
Obviously the STV system is too complicated for you to grasp, let's try a list only system, like the one used for MEPs. Are MEPs elected?
You are as bad as Centaur you have a serious chip on your shoulder what have a rattled your cage that much sorry
Anyone can read above as i did ask this
''2. Who in Scotland elected Kezia Dugdale , James Kelly and Anas Sarwar ?
CLCC you replied to that saying '' 2. The electorate'' correct ?
Wrong the electorate never voted for Kezia to be an MSP she was rejected by the voters at the ballot paper
You are the one that doesnt have a scooby doo on how the STV works
Also remember this demeaning remark you said to me yet to even say sorry over
'' I'm qualified to speak on it, I don't believe however that you are''
How demeaning does that sound!
It really does come across like saying Oh am so qualified to speak on it and your not = '' my dick is bigger than your dick'' attitude
Do you get this is a fucking swinging site i have no problem with you we just disagree on things but you go way over the line calm down man
Saying that members of the Scottish parliament are unelected is just a straight up lie.
Yet AGAIN your ignorance of the topic at hand as made you look foolish, that is your fault. If you don't know how a system works, go and educate yourself, or listen to people who do know how it works."No lie Kezias constituency never voted for her Btw Kezia was not on the constituency vote ballot paper nice try and misleading people So if she is not on the constituency ballot how does one for Kezia then ? The regional vote is for Parties / branch offices thats what you voting for do not sit there and tell me how the hell Holyrood election work when your not even in Scotland | |||
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"Was Scotland on the EU referendum ballot paper? "No Was extra powers , devo max , Home Rule on the Scottish referendum ballot paper ? Why is it you point that out but shy away from the fact extra powers was not on the ballot in 2014 but its ok just on fly to offer devo max to try and swing people against independence lol | |||
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"No, but independence was on that ballot paper, and it was rejected by the majority if the people in Scotland. "Is that you trying a dig ? Well at least you admited devo max was not on the ballot paper but hey unionists couldnt care less So see when you use that shite about Scotland not being on the EU referendum just remember extra powers was not on the Scottish referendum ballot paper but you seem happy to accept that wonder why So your point means nothing | |||
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