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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

New UK laws will soon be coming in to ensure under-18s don't access online pornography this April (2018).

Digital Minister (and West Suffolk MP) Matt Hancock has signed the order to launch the Digital Economy Act, which is set to be introduced in April

The U.K. will be the only country in the World where you first have to prove your age prior to viewing porn

It has been suggested that proof via credit card, or full home address, date of birth etc will be required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good or bad?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Good or bad?"

I suspect it could lead to hacking of names and disclosure

realistically, its simple don't view porn on internet

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"New UK laws will soon be coming in to ensure under-18s don't access online pornography this April (2018).

Digital Minister (and West Suffolk MP) Matt Hancock has signed the order to launch the Digital Economy Act, which is set to be introduced in April

The U.K. will be the only country in the World where you first have to prove your age prior to viewing porn

It has been suggested that proof via credit card, or full home address, date of birth etc will be required

"

All of the computers in Westmister are gonna be having a lot of MP's credit card details soon then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"New UK laws will soon be coming in to ensure under-18s don't access online pornography this April (2018).

Digital Minister (and West Suffolk MP) Matt Hancock has signed the order to launch the Digital Economy Act, which is set to be introduced in April

The U.K. will be the only country in the World where you first have to prove your age prior to viewing porn

It has been suggested that proof via credit card, or full home address, date of birth etc will be required

All of the computers in Westmister are gonna be having a lot of MP's credit card details soon then. "

or added to expenses

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Already a similar scheme on mobile phones.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Already a similar scheme on mobile phones."

how do you know??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

"

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Already a similar scheme on mobile phones.

how do you know?? "

Because I'm a pervert who looks at porn and filthy sites like this on my phone.

You just have to register your handset once to prove you are 18 and what the phone to be able to access restricted material. I did it through an automated system which required a credit card. I took £1, or 1p, I can't remember, and then immediately refunded it. Their logic is you have to be 18+ to have a credit card. I think that my phone is on a contract and you need to be 18+ for that too. The same logic applies to internet services via landline/cable/fibre, you need to be 18+ to set up a contract with an ISP, so the whole thing is a load of crap.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

Won't work.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?"

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

won't mean shit untill the torys make vpn's illegal

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them"

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet another money making scam that someone will make a shut load of money running

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asking parents to use the filters already available to them is too much to ask then

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it. "

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt"

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Yet another money making scam that someone will make a shut load of money running "

Oh, completely. So the government has gone out to get companies to bid for software to protect us all from that big bad porn out there. And, who is the most likely company to get the gig to provide age verifications services? Mindgeek. The company that controls about 90% of the porn online and had a turnover of something like £300M/annum a couple of years ago. And why are they lobbying so hard to the government in mandate age verification? Because if it becomes mandatory, and they become the defacto standard for age verification, then they basically get to keep out any and all competition.

And you thought May's snoopers charter was dead? Nope, just back in a different guise. Now in the guise of 'won't someone please think of the children!'.

You know that Davis was actually taking the government to the EU court over the snoopers charter? Bit embarrassing that he had to remove his own name from the court case, once he became chief Brexit-screwer-upper.

And of course, all of this will actually achieve the square root of fuck all in the end.

But hey, ho... I'll just go back to watching my already illegal porn with women squirting in. Or the James Bond film Casino Royale, which by the law should also be illegal.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting. "

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt"

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt"

Totally agree. It takes two mins to set up parental settings which automatically blocks or filters adult content.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change. "

Ummm... yes... parents are responsible for education. That is my point.

Yes, the world is changing. That is why our politicians need to actually try and understand the world. Alas most of them are pretty clueless. And hence why they propose legislation that does nothing to actually stop the problem that can't already be done, and just causes more problems than it solves. All so they can wipe their hands and say 'right, problem solved'.

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Totally agree. It takes two mins to set up parental settings which automatically blocks or filters adult content.

"

How does a shared wireless network know how old the people connecting to it are? If one is 35 and another is 6 and another is a television another is a boiler how does the router know which one is allowed to watch porn? Genuine question.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change.

Ummm... yes... parents are responsible for education. That is my point.

Yes, the world is changing. That is why our politicians need to actually try and understand the world. Alas most of them are pretty clueless. And hence why they propose legislation that does nothing to actually stop the problem that can't already be done, and just causes more problems than it solves. All so they can wipe their hands and say 'right, problem solved'.

-Matt"

They have to legislate for the type of adult who puts their masturbation needs above their children's.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Totally agree. It takes two mins to set up parental settings which automatically blocks or filters adult content.

"

In fact, I think all the big ISPs actually have it on by default now on new installs. You have to explicitly say you want to be able to watch porn and have it switched off.

But yes, there are plenty of tools out there if you are concerned about your young one accidentally straying onto the wrong thing. They are only superficially effective, but might stop your 5 year old from seeing some boobies.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wont it only work for UK based or registered sites?

Most are based in the US? Or am I just wishful thinking?

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Totally agree. It takes two mins to set up parental settings which automatically blocks or filters adult content.

How does a shared wireless network know how old the people connecting to it are? If one is 35 and another is 6 and another is a television another is a boiler how does the router know which one is allowed to watch porn? Genuine question. "

It doesn't. Hence part of the problem. In our house we have adults, grown up kids, and a 7 year old. As it stands the router is set to do some filtering for the 7 year old's iPad. But really the only proper way to deal with it is to sit down and talk with them. That is what we have done.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Wont it only work for UK based or registered sites?

Most are based in the US? Or am I just wishful thinking?"

Ding! ding! ding!

You win a prize!

Yup. You have spotted the very obvious flaw in all of this.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change.

Ummm... yes... parents are responsible for education. That is my point.

Yes, the world is changing. That is why our politicians need to actually try and understand the world. Alas most of them are pretty clueless. And hence why they propose legislation that does nothing to actually stop the problem that can't already be done, and just causes more problems than it solves. All so they can wipe their hands and say 'right, problem solved'.

-Matt

They have to legislate for the type of adult who puts their masturbation needs above their children's. "

Those laws already exist.

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change.

Ummm... yes... parents are responsible for education. That is my point.

Yes, the world is changing. That is why our politicians need to actually try and understand the world. Alas most of them are pretty clueless. And hence why they propose legislation that does nothing to actually stop the problem that can't already be done, and just causes more problems than it solves. All so they can wipe their hands and say 'right, problem solved'.

-Matt

They have to legislate for the type of adult who puts their masturbation needs above their children's.

Those laws already exist.

-Matt"

Go on..

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Should we close all the schools then? Surely parents are responsible for education as well? Remove minimum ages to buy tobacco and alcohol etc etc? The world is changing, laws must change.

Ummm... yes... parents are responsible for education. That is my point.

Yes, the world is changing. That is why our politicians need to actually try and understand the world. Alas most of them are pretty clueless. And hence why they propose legislation that does nothing to actually stop the problem that can't already be done, and just causes more problems than it solves. All so they can wipe their hands and say 'right, problem solved'.

-Matt

They have to legislate for the type of adult who puts their masturbation needs above their children's.

Those laws already exist.

-Matt

Go on.."

Well there is the Children and Young Person's Act of 1933 for a start.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

.They've been trying to ban porn since the bronze age without success.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

.They've been trying to ban porn since the bronze age without success."

Exactly, so a far better use of government time and energy would be put towards educating parents of how to talk to their kids about the dangers online and educating parents how to use the tools they already have.

But hey, why bother thinking about that when you can just kick the can down the road and get a porn company to be in charge of it. Then they can get back to gazing at navels, and pretending the EU is at fault for all our woes.

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

"

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law. "

Non sequitur. The new law has nothing in it about making parents legally responsible for knowing how to set the parental controls on their router.

-Matt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law.

Non sequitur. The new law has nothing in it about making parents legally responsible for knowing how to set the parental controls on their router.

-Matt"

Oh well. Pointless argument if they're gonna bring it in anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law.

Non sequitur. The new law has nothing in it about making parents legally responsible for knowing how to set the parental controls on their router.

-Matt

Oh well. Pointless argument if they're gonna bring it in anyway. "

It's a law that cannot be enforced.Some who don't understand how the net works will have a false sense of security.Which might well be worse.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law.

Non sequitur. The new law has nothing in it about making parents legally responsible for knowing how to set the parental controls on their router.

-Matt

Oh well. Pointless argument if they're gonna bring it in anyway. It's a law that cannot be enforced.Some who don't understand how the net works will have a false sense of security.Which might well be worse."

Then it will be worse. What's the green policy on it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think some parents are clueless on parental controls on routers and devices.Its not that difficult

Of course they are! That's why we need the new law.

Non sequitur. The new law has nothing in it about making parents legally responsible for knowing how to set the parental controls on their router.

-Matt

Oh well. Pointless argument if they're gonna bring it in anyway. It's a law that cannot be enforced.Some who don't understand how the net works will have a false sense of security.Which might well be worse.

Then it will be worse. What's the green policy on it?"

It'll positive progressive and inclusive and end with a hug.

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

Reading

Just to say, when the goverment brought in to ban the download sites. These can still be accessed with ease. Look on the normal search engines and just type in ( access download sites in uk ) The list will detail all the get arounds. So this will be the same for porn sites. The goverment cannot block these get arounds as they are totally legal.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Good I think but the ID used must be secure and that is my worry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They tried banning torrent sites and failed.Anyone who values their privacy uses proxy servers these days.

Do many 7 year olds that you know use proxy servers?

Teenage lads with a hard on will get round any restrictions faster than the geeks can build them

That's fine. But if it stops young kids straying by accident or by misadventure I'm all for it.

Or, y'know. Parenting. It's a thing.

-Matt

I'm sorry if child warfare interferes with your wanking. There's alot of parents in this country who also put their priorities in masturbating rather than parenting.

Child warfare? I presume that is a Freudian slip?

Why do you think the government should be responsible for this instead of parents? Or to be more exact why should the rest of the adult population have to be subjected to more surveillance just because some parents are unable to do their job?

-Matt

Totally agree. It takes two mins to set up parental settings which automatically blocks or filters adult content.

How does a shared wireless network know how old the people connecting to it are? If one is 35 and another is 6 and another is a television another is a boiler how does the router know which one is allowed to watch porn? Genuine question. "

I think my kettle and microwave have been downloading bad stuff!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Bad.

We discussed it when it was raised last year - old news.

Adults buying services should be unencumbered whilst parents with responsibilities for children should ensure that they behave appropriately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no contract with government no law. simples!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"Wont it only work for UK based or registered sites?

Most are based in the US? Or am I just wishful thinking?

Ding! ding! ding!

You win a prize!

Yup. You have spotted the very obvious flaw in all of this.

-Matt"

No, it will apply to any site that comes through a UK ISP.

It may even apply to fab, as the wording in the blurb says any site that displays material designed to cause arousal.

I have asked about this in the site feedback forum, but not had a reply yet. I think mainly because they don't know. Buy also because the site feedback forum is a bit of a placebo.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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I'm assuming that it will apply to fab, due to the adult content.

Something else that is not needed and will cost us all, as we'll be paying for its operation and management. Stupid conservative move, that imposes unnecessary restrictions and costs on the majority of law abiding adult citizens because some parents are not fulfilling their obligations.

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