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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. " GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory." And not fallen by 6% as forecast...... | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory." Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again." Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. " . Timeframe? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. " This will not be known until we actually leave, time will tell & answer all | |||
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"So going from the fastest growing economy to the slowest is a win? The loss of GDP and reduced growth forecast is a win because it is not as bad as some people said it would be? This is about the country not point scoring. Right now we are paying the EU and we are losing around £300 million a week in revenue from the loss of growth. This is not a win. This situation will continue until such time as growth and GDP gets back to where it should have been AND we are out of the EU. There will not be a Brexit dividend because: 1) the costs of replicating EU agencies here in the U.K. 2) the loss of direct and indirect taxation’s n from reduced immigration into this country. 3) the loss of Treasury revenue from corporate taxes do to reduced growth, relocations and reduced GDP" Don't forget farm/fishery subsidies. OBR is forecasting that any dividend is more than wiped out by the extra things we will have to pay for. | |||
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"Luckly for most of us the majority of businness is optimistic of our economic future . Most businnesses have no real interest in Brexit and simply want to ensure that theirs is a success for both employees and their customers . A few tweaks to either duty rates or trading agreements are irrelevant . Those people who believe that that staying in the EU was beneficial had forty years to fight / prove their case and failed to convince the electorate . Considering the time frame involved one would have expected the remain campaign to have walked the referendum . In addition to having a booming stock exchange , the jobs market has improved ( unemployment of 4.3 % of the workforce being the lowest for 42 years ) Companies do not take on more workers unless they see strong economic prospects . Pensioners will also have gained with increased dividend income from investments and anyone invested in a pension fund will have seen a substantial uplift in value . " Hello again Pat - this must be some kind of new record with new Profiles? | |||
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"WEY HEY _lcc got in there first with the insults and the blows keep on a coming ffs " Just stating the statistics. Does it apply in your case? It does in mine. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. . Timeframe?" Since the referendum. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. " As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. | |||
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"Luckly for most of us the majority of businness is optimistic of our economic future . Most businnesses have no real interest in Brexit and simply want to ensure that theirs is a success for both employees and their customers . A few tweaks to either duty rates or trading agreements are irrelevant . Those people who believe that that staying in the EU was beneficial had forty years to fight / prove their case and failed to convince the electorate . Considering the time frame involved one would have expected the remain campaign to have walked the referendum . In addition to having a booming stock exchange , the jobs market has improved ( unemployment of 4.3 % of the workforce being the lowest for 42 years ) Companies do not take on more workers unless they see strong economic prospects . Pensioners will also have gained with increased dividend income from investments and anyone invested in a pension fund will have seen a substantial uplift in value . Hello again Pat - this must be some kind of new record with new Profiles?" Have to agree good old pat likes making new profiles I’ve heard it’s going to be postman pat next Has anyone see his black and white cat Meow | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. . Timeframe? Since the referendum. " . GDP for the UK for 2016 shows the UK just above the EU average? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. And not fallen by 6% as forecast......" That's a matter of perspective xxx BBC report from Davos In one camp are the people who look at the real economy. According to the IMF, the world economy is enjoying its biggest periodof concerted global growth since 2010. All the major engines of economic activity are firing at the same time. The United States, China, India are growing strongly andwith the exception of the UK, even the European Union is stirring from a decade of slumber. The world booming just as the UK was before the vote And now we are the least booming and not left yet which will deflate us more Relatively the UK is more than 6 percent down upon where it could be and the UK has some poor people hurting inflation to come a big dose of that I'm afraid xxx Thing is we had fantastic trade deals with most of the world with a bit of protection thrown in , we had equal terms with all Eu members and could leverage that to our advantage After exit the UK will only have 99 percent of its terms and lose all off it's pre arranged , nigh on free trade deals with the rest of the world At very very best the UK will be 99 percent of what it already had | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. " Why are older people more likely to be scammed then if they are so wise? | |||
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"On what basis are brexit voters lower academics achievers? I have three daughters. Oldest daughter B.Sc (2.2) voted remain Middle daughter B.Med (Doctor) voted remain Youngest daughter. M.Sc Chemistry voted leave! Are there any actual statistics or just anecdotal insults?" There is lots of evidence from Lord Ashcroft Polls, YouGov etc about the educational divide. This is from YouGov "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU" So if we take your 3 daughters as a sample we would find that 66.66% of voters with a degree voted to remain. That's very close to the national average of 68%. I'm just pointing out the statistics, there is nothing for people to get insulted about, especially if they match up with the trends. | |||
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"It doesn't surprise me that the more educated voted brexit!. What surprised me is that the more educated didn't see that the less educated wouldn't fuck them over in the first democratic vote like the more educated have done for the less educated for the last forty fucking years!!. Come on now, let's face facts, your educated trade deals have never ever benefited the less educated!. This is the big cry by the educated, how could we have been screwed by the idiots, well I'm AFRAID that's karma come to bite you on the arse. Learn to live with it or learn to moan like Fuck like the uneducated have done for forty years "What makes a person “ more educated” ? | |||
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"On what basis are brexit voters lower academics achievers? I have three daughters. Oldest daughter B.Sc (2.2) voted remain Middle daughter B.Med (Doctor) voted remain Youngest daughter. M.Sc Chemistry voted leave! Are there any actual statistics or just anecdotal insults? There is lots of evidence from Lord Ashcroft Polls, YouGov etc about the educational divide. This is from YouGov "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU" So if we take your 3 daughters as a sample we would find that 66.66% of voters with a degree voted to remain. That's very close to the national average of 68%. I'm just pointing out the statistics, there is nothing for people to get insulted about, especially if they match up with the trends. " I am one of the YouGov statistics Do you really think their polls are correct!!!!!! they have been proven wrong in the past I feed YouGov what I wish to feed them, right or wrong I expect many others do the same, do you really think I am going to give YouGov my exact postcode, how many are in home, how much I earn and on and on, then answer all questions truthfully Remember not that long ago all polls were proven to be wrong, I wonder why  | |||
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"It doesn't surprise me that the more educated voted brexit!. What surprised me is that the more educated didn't see that the less educated wouldn't fuck them over in the first democratic vote like the more educated have done for the less educated for the last forty fucking years!!. Come on now, let's face facts, your educated trade deals have never ever benefited the less educated!. This is the big cry by the educated, how could we have been screwed by the idiots, well I'm AFRAID that's karma come to bite you on the arse. Learn to live with it or learn to moan like Fuck like the uneducated have done for forty years
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"On what basis are brexit voters lower academics achievers? I have three daughters. Oldest daughter B.Sc (2.2) voted remain Middle daughter B.Med (Doctor) voted remain Youngest daughter. M.Sc Chemistry voted leave! Are there any actual statistics or just anecdotal insults? There is lots of evidence from Lord Ashcroft Polls, YouGov etc about the educational divide. This is from YouGov "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU" So if we take your 3 daughters as a sample we would find that 66.66% of voters with a degree voted to remain. That's very close to the national average of 68%. I'm just pointing out the statistics, there is nothing for people to get insulted about, especially if they match up with the trends. I am one of the YouGov statistics Do you really think their polls are correct!!!!!! they have been proven wrong in the past I feed YouGov what I wish to feed them, right or wrong I expect many others do the same, do you really think I am going to give YouGov my exact postcode, how many are in home, how much I earn and on and on, then answer all questions truthfully Remember not that long ago all polls were proven to be wrong, I wonder why "No, "all polls" have not been proven to be wrong. Polls are used all over the world by political parties, commercial entities, research scientists, charities, journalists, government departments and many many other groups. All of them see value in polling. It is a tried and tested and proven methodology for collecting data. | |||
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"On what basis are brexit voters lower academics achievers? I have three daughters. Oldest daughter B.Sc (2.2) voted remain Middle daughter B.Med (Doctor) voted remain Youngest daughter. M.Sc Chemistry voted leave! Are there any actual statistics or just anecdotal insults? There is lots of evidence from Lord Ashcroft Polls, YouGov etc about the educational divide. This is from YouGov "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU" So if we take your 3 daughters as a sample we would find that 66.66% of voters with a degree voted to remain. That's very close to the national average of 68%. I'm just pointing out the statistics, there is nothing for people to get insulted about, especially if they match up with the trends. I am one of the YouGov statistics Do you really think their polls are correct!!!!!! they have been proven wrong in the past I feed YouGov what I wish to feed them, right or wrong I expect many others do the same, do you really think I am going to give YouGov my exact postcode, how many are in home, how much I earn and on and on, then answer all questions truthfully Remember not that long ago all polls were proven to be wrong, I wonder why
No, "all polls" have not been proven to be wrong. Polls are used all over the world by political parties, commercial entities, research scientists, charities, journalists, government departments and many many other groups. All of them see value in polling. It is a tried and tested and proven methodology for collecting data."Polls relay on the people feeding the data into them more and more people are feeding incorrect info or indeed info the people wish to feed to the polls Since the not so long ago fuck up with all polls being proved wrong with brexit, people are more aware and feed incorrect info | |||
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"On what basis are brexit voters lower academics achievers? I have three daughters. Oldest daughter B.Sc (2.2) voted remain Middle daughter B.Med (Doctor) voted remain Youngest daughter. M.Sc Chemistry voted leave! Are there any actual statistics or just anecdotal insults? There is lots of evidence from Lord Ashcroft Polls, YouGov etc about the educational divide. This is from YouGov "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU" So if we take your 3 daughters as a sample we would find that 66.66% of voters with a degree voted to remain. That's very close to the national average of 68%. I'm just pointing out the statistics, there is nothing for people to get insulted about, especially if they match up with the trends. I am one of the YouGov statistics Do you really think their polls are correct!!!!!! they have been proven wrong in the past I feed YouGov what I wish to feed them, right or wrong I expect many others do the same, do you really think I am going to give YouGov my exact postcode, how many are in home, how much I earn and on and on, then answer all questions truthfully Remember not that long ago all polls were proven to be wrong, I wonder why
No, "all polls" have not been proven to be wrong. Polls are used all over the world by political parties, commercial entities, research scientists, charities, journalists, government departments and many many other groups. All of them see value in polling. It is a tried and tested and proven methodology for collecting data.
Polls relay on the people feeding the data into them
more and more people are feeding incorrect info or indeed info the people wish to feed to the polls
Since the not so long ago fuck up with all polls being proved wrong with brexit, people are more aware and feed incorrect info"False reporting is taken into account  | |||
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" As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. " Cobblers. In the case of the referendum, older people (50+) were more likely to make a decision based on nostalgia. Which is notoriously unreliable and rose tinted. Whereas those younger (-50) are making it based on the only thing they've known. Or the status quo as it's known. Either way, it was the dyed in the wool xenophobes who weren't ever going to vote any other way wot won it for you. So go ahead and thank a racist friend. | |||
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"Polls relay on the people feeding the data into them more and more people are feeding incorrect info or indeed info the people wish to feed to the polls Since the not so long ago fuck up with all polls being proved wrong with brexit, people are more aware and feed incorrect info" If you were a regular contributor to one of the polling companies you would know that they ask the same questions in many different ways over time and in that way are able to out those who deliberately give false answers to invalidate opinion polls. | |||
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"Polls relay on the people feeding the data into them more and more people are feeding incorrect info or indeed info the people wish to feed to the polls Since the not so long ago fuck up with all polls being proved wrong with brexit, people are more aware and feed incorrect info If you were a regular contributor to one of the polling companies you would know that they ask the same questions in many different ways over time and in that way are able to out those who deliberately give false answers to invalidate opinion polls. " yes will, fully aware of that, picked up on that many years back, questions from a poll are only as good as the person feeding the data its like a little game isn't it, who can out smart the poll. I see you have failed to reply to NHS2  | |||
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"Luckly for most of us the majority of businness is optimistic of our economic future . Most businnesses have no real interest in Brexit and simply want to ensure that theirs is a success for both employees and their customers . A few tweaks to either duty rates or trading agreements are irrelevant . Those people who believe that that staying in the EU was beneficial had forty years to fight / prove their case and failed to convince the electorate . Considering the time frame involved one would have expected the remain campaign to have walked the referendum . In addition to having a booming stock exchange , the jobs market has improved ( unemployment of 4.3 % of the workforce being the lowest for 42 years ) Companies do not take on more workers unless they see strong economic prospects . Pensioners will also have gained with increased dividend income from investments and anyone invested in a pension fund will have seen a substantial uplift in value . " One reason unemployed has fallen is of course zero hours contracts. Which we can all agree are a truly wonderful thing 
Then there is the value of the pound taking post referendum which made our goods cheaper. So people bought more.
"Aha! You just made my point Jodie! So we will be better off after brexit!"
No. Because pound is likely to fall again, so exports remain cheap before export. But then duty and tariffs will be applied. The costs of buying any raw materials from abroad to make those products goes up for the same reason. And yes we can make some of those raw materials here after a period of adjustment, but not all. So what we will have is a period of many years of recession caused by redundancies and the bonfire of workers rights. Which we will get through of course in a decade or so, to climb back to the heady heights of being where we were.
Right.
Before.
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Referendum.
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"I see you have failed to reply to NHS2 "I did not bother to reply because you answered all my questions in the affirmative, then repeated what I said about using private healthcare attempting to make it sound as if you were putting me in my place finishing off with one of your usual trolling comments about tax avoidance being legal implying that I had incorrectly claimed you may have attempted to commit tax fraud, when I am sure you fully understand the difference between tax avoidance (word I used) and tax evasion. Of course your playing the same sort of word game here and although you think it very clever, it is not. In fact it really does nothing more than make you look like a very childish individual who is more interested in scoring points than entering into a meaningful discussion and maybe growing or helping others to grow their understanding of a subject. That I have to say is a shame because I think that you may actually have real contributions to make on subjects if only you stopped attempting to score cheap points. (no returned wink from me just a ). | |||
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"Luckly for most of us the majority of businness is optimistic of our economic future . Most businnesses have no real interest in Brexit and simply want to ensure that theirs is a success for both employees and their customers . A few tweaks to either duty rates or trading agreements are irrelevant . Those people who believe that that staying in the EU was beneficial had forty years to fight / prove their case and failed to convince the electorate . Considering the time frame involved one would have expected the remain campaign to have walked the referendum . In addition to having a booming stock exchange , the jobs market has improved ( unemployment of 4.3 % of the workforce being the lowest for 42 years ) Companies do not take on more workers unless they see strong economic prospects . Pensioners will also have gained with increased dividend income from investments and anyone invested in a pension fund will have seen a substantial uplift in value . " I'm pretty sure most businesses have a very real interest in Brexit. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. " Even if this were true they'll die off soon enough and we can get on with reversing the decision. Can you hear the sound of INEVITABILITY approaching? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. " So does the fact that leave voters were poorly educated and had less life opportunities. And that's not down to brexit. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. Even if this were true they'll die off soon enough and we can get on with reversing the decision. Can you hear the sound of INEVITABILITY approaching?" Yes I can hear INEVITABLY approaching, it's called 29th March 2019, the date we officially leave the EU, and I'm really looking forward to it.  | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. Even if this were true they'll die off soon enough and we can get on with reversing the decision. Can you hear the sound of INEVITABILITY approaching? Yes I can hear INEVITABLY approaching, it's called 29th March 2019, the date we officially leave the EU, and I'm really looking forward to it. "I seem to remember you saying this same quote many times I rekon the world now knows this fact but please carry on | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. " And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. " No, they didn't do any of those things. It just showed that we don't have as many well educated people as we have poorly educated people. I don't know what you are getting your knickers in a twist about. Do you statistics apply in your case Centaur? Or do you buck the trend? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. " Not actually suprising. En mass there will always be more people who possess low average to lower than average IQ and traits of high conventration and ambition, plus the will and drive to attain these. High intelligence, focus and attention span are strong selectors of mate preference but produce small numbers of offspring. Hence why between 40-70% of innovation and management in even the most developed countries is done bybonly about 10-25% of the population. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. No, they didn't do any of those things. It just showed that we don't have as many well educated people as we have poorly educated people. I don't know what you are getting your knickers in a twist about. Do you statistics apply in your case Centaur? Or do you buck the trend? " To conclude the leave campaign were lucky, you got good marketers and leaders who were intelligent to stategically outmanuvere the opposition campaigners. Combine simple slogans and answers with mass public dissatisfaction for varying reasons, and couple that with defending a complex and kind of half decent organisation like the EU, and you will get a a signifigant percentile of the population who lack the focus to explore the topic voting for whatever you pitch. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. No, they didn't do any of those things. " So when I said "people of lower academic achievement managed to win the referendum and beat the people of higher academic achievement" you dispute that now? You said "they didn't do any of those things". So you're in denial that Leave won the referendum? Do you think Remain won? 
As for 'do I buck the trend' well you keep parroting out the line that leave voters were all OAP's about to pop their cloggs too, but I was only 38 years old at the time of the referendum, make of that what you will. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. No, they didn't do any of those things. So when I said "people of lower academic achievement managed to win the referendum and beat the people of higher academic achievement" you dispute that now? You said "they didn't do any of those things". So you're in denial that Leave won the referendum? Do you think Remain won?
As for 'do I buck the trend' well you keep parroting out the line that leave voters were all OAP's about to pop their cloggs too, but I was only 38 years old at the time of the referendum, make of that what you will. "But we were talking about educational attainment and voting. Do you buck the trend or conform to it? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. No, they didn't do any of those things. It just showed that we don't have as many well educated people as we have poorly educated people. I don't know what you are getting your knickers in a twist about. Do you statistics apply in your case Centaur? Or do you buck the trend? To conclude the leave campaign were lucky, you got good marketers and leaders who were intelligent to stategically outmanuvere the opposition campaigners. Combine simple slogans and answers with mass public dissatisfaction for varying reasons, and couple that with defending a complex and kind of half decent organisation like the EU, and you will get a a signifigant percentile of the population who lack the focus to explore the topic voting for whatever you pitch." You were outsmarted, outclassed and outmanoeuvred by people that CLCC calls 'less educated and of lower academic achievement'. That's why you lost. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. As has been explained to you before on many occasions leave voters were generally older and older people make better decisions based on life experiences. The term 'older and wiser' applies in this case. " Older people make better decisions simply because theyre old? What a load of utterly moronic tosh | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. Fastest growing economy in the EU to the slowest growing economy in the EU shows what a fuck up Brexit was. However the average brexit voter can't understand this because of their low level of academic achievement. And yet these people of lower level academic achievement managed to outthink you, outclass you and outsmart you during the referendum campaign. The people of lower level academic achievement managed to win the referendum and managed to beat the people of higher academic achievement. It's hardly a ringing endorsement for your 'higher academic achievement' is it. You were outsmarted on the social media campaign, and you were outclassed on the ground campaign (knocking on doors, delivering leaflets, and putting up posters, etc). Btw it's this chip on your shoulder superiority complex remainers like you display that Brexiters utterly despise. No, they didn't do any of those things. It just showed that we don't have as many well educated people as we have poorly educated people. I don't know what you are getting your knickers in a twist about. Do you statistics apply in your case Centaur? Or do you buck the trend? To conclude the leave campaign were lucky, you got good marketers and leaders who were intelligent to stategically outmanuvere the opposition campaigners. Combine simple slogans and answers with mass public dissatisfaction for varying reasons, and couple that with defending a complex and kind of half decent organisation like the EU, and you will get a a signifigant percentile of the population who lack the focus to explore the topic voting for whatever you pitch. You were outsmarted, outclassed and outmanoeuvred by people that CLCC calls 'less educated and of lower academic achievement'. That's why you lost. " It sounds like you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder there. Out of the two groups, which can change? Should the ones who already have a good education hand back their certificates and get a lobotomy, or should those who didn't try very hard at school perhaps try a little bit harder now? | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again." The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign." Experts built the Titanic and look what happened to that. People have good reason to fear experts as they often get it wrong. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign. Experts built the Titanic and look what happened to that. People have good reason to fear experts as they often get it wrong. " What was wrong with the build of the titanic?  | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign. Experts built the Titanic and look what happened to that. People have good reason to fear experts as they often get it wrong. What was wrong with the build of the titanic? "don't think it was designed for "impact" | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign. Experts built the Titanic and look what happened to that. People have good reason to fear experts as they often get it wrong. " Not as often as people who take on complex tasks and concepts while knowing fuck all, except something they saw on a video they watched on YouTube. Your average brexiter basically. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. GDP has risen since the referendum. Not as fast as before, but not into negative territory. Yep, the recession the remain campaign Project Fear predicted never materialised. The UK economy grew by 1.8% last year. The IMF and the world bank forecasts were for lower growth ranging from 1.2% to 1.5% but the UK economy has proved the so called experts wrong again. The UK needs growth of about 2% a year to stand still. That's from an economics lecturer. Most of that growth in the past comes from the interaction with the EU ( people, goods, services etc). I understand why quitters fear experts, as experts simply expose the weapons grade stupidity of the leave campaign. Experts built the Titanic and look what happened to that. People have good reason to fear experts as they often get it wrong. What was wrong with the build of the titanic?
don't think it was designed for "impact" "Neither is your iPhone, so you can't blame Apple if you break your phone trying to hammer a nail with it. | |||
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"To conclude the leave campaign were lucky, you got good marketers and leaders who were intelligent to stategically outmanuvere the opposition campaigners. Combine simple slogans and answers with mass public dissatisfaction for varying reasons, and couple that with defending a complex and kind of half decent organisation like the EU, and you will get a a signifigant percentile of the population who lack the focus to explore the topic voting for whatever you pitch." Far from it... There was no luck involved, the leave campaign employed the services of Cambridge Analytica and their use of data mining to tailor political adds to individuals surfing the web mainly as a remain 'voter suppression tool' but also as a 'leave message' reinforcement tool is the reason that the leave campaign came out on top. I also believe Cambridge Analytica is still at work and that is the reason why so many brexiteers are so unwilling to see anything negative in brexit. Of course by the very nature of how data mining works to target individuals I would need to be sitting beside Centy while he is normally surfing the web to ever have a hope of seeing anything Cambridge Analytica has targeted at him... The same is of course true for all of us. Cambridge Analytica uses data mining to target individuals and with 52 hidden question in click bait they can predict anyone's responses with 98% accuracy! The more questions we answer the more accurate their predictions and I would not be surprised if our web surfing over the last nearly 30 years has generated enough data for them to have developed algorithms that can map the personality of everyone who uses the net with virtually 100% accuracy and therefore manipulate every one of us with ease. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. This will not be known until we actually leave, time will tell & answer all" And then we'll be well and truly fucked. | |||
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"Where has this new expression suddenly come from? "Brexit dividend" my arse. The loss in GDP has already wiped out the so called "savings" and we haven't even left yet so it is a double whammy. This will not be known until we actually leave, time will tell & answer all And then we'll be well and truly fucked." Excatley | |||
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"To conclude the leave campaign were lucky, you got good marketers and leaders who were intelligent to stategically outmanuvere the opposition campaigners. Combine simple slogans and answers with mass public dissatisfaction for varying reasons, and couple that with defending a complex and kind of half decent organisation like the EU, and you will get a a signifigant percentile of the population who lack the focus to explore the topic voting for whatever you pitch. Far from it... There was no luck involved, the leave campaign employed the services of Cambridge Analytica and their use of data mining to tailor political adds to individuals surfing the web mainly as a remain 'voter suppression tool' but also as a 'leave message' reinforcement tool is the reason that the leave campaign came out on top. I also believe Cambridge Analytica is still at work and that is the reason why so many brexiteers are so unwilling to see anything negative in brexit. Of course by the very nature of how data mining works to target individuals I would need to be sitting beside Centy while he is normally surfing the web to ever have a hope of seeing anything Cambridge Analytica has targeted at him... The same is of course true for all of us. Cambridge Analytica uses data mining to target individuals and with 52 hidden question in click bait they can predict anyone's responses with 98% accuracy! The more questions we answer the more accurate their predictions and I would not be surprised if our web surfing over the last nearly 30 years has generated enough data for them to have developed algorithms that can map the personality of everyone who uses the net with virtually 100% accuracy and therefore manipulate every one of us with ease." I think your probably right! So we are all brainwashed? Gorgeous Orwell was right then. | |||
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"I think your probably right! So we are all brainwashed? Gorgeous Orwell was right then." Yep, but crossed with the dystopian visions of Aldous Huxley just to really screw us all up. | |||
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"Daily Express anyone?" No thanks, I've got two rolls of Andrex before I need that | |||
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"Daily Express anyone? No thanks, I've got two rolls of Andrex before I need that" Did anyone see the documentary on BBC TV about Edward & Mrs Simpson? Apparently he was Alt right wing. Also the secret service of the day commented on two Alt right newspapers - Mail & Express - so it just shows nothing changes! | |||
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"Daily Express anyone? No thanks, I've got two rolls of Andrex before I need that Did anyone see the documentary on BBC TV about Edward & Mrs Simpson? Apparently he was Alt right wing. Also the secret service of the day commented on two Alt right newspapers - Mail & Express - so it just shows nothing changes!" They had some very dodgy friends with many coming from the far right. The Mail and the Express saw nothing wrong in this. It's like those papers pandering to far right nutjob political groups. BTW where is Herr Farage at the moment? | |||
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