FabSwingers.com forum: The bridge to France

By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Should ideas for building a bridge to France wait for Brexit terms to be completed? Boris thinks a bridge is a great idea - he might have suggested Carillion to do it a few days ago

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Across one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world?

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By *irral TwoCouple
over a year ago

Wirral

As long as Mexico pays for it.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Across one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world? "

I did wonder the same but maybe Tower Bridge will be replicated, with a bridge towering to the heavens.

Boris spews out his ideas for attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Village idiot comes to mind. Best put it on the side of a bus as a convincer - someone's bound to believe it!

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

With enough lanes, it could double as Boris airport too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and a harbour for Russian aircraft carriers

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible. "

Of course they would..

Experts said the titanic was oktoo..

Boris last bridge idea didn't work out too well for the capitals taxpayers

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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago

Driffield

The stupidity of this government knows no bounds.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible. "

But is it sensible?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

But is it sensible? "

Ah, that's the big question. Things have to be weighed up to what expectations would be 30-40 years time, and not at the present time.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

But is it sensible? "

Or cost effective.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Should ideas for building a bridge to France wait for Brexit terms to be completed? Boris thinks a bridge is a great idea - he might have suggested Carillion to do it a few days ago

You should read the comments on the article on the Mail Online about this story. Hilarious. People demanding the tunnel is concerted over and ships stop sailing so they can close their eyes and imagine that Europe doesn't even exist.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

But is it sensible?

Or cost effective.

If it was reasonable, possible, cost effective and required, then why is the first time we hear about it on the day the French are in town?

Where is the cross party support for a project that would likely take more than a decade?

Who's paying for it? The Brits or the French? Or perhaps the Mexicans!

What does the head of the infrastructure commission (or whatever it's called) say about it? Oh, we don't have one, he resigned because the government's crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the 350mil will pay for it

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I'd rather see the billions a bridge would cost spent on replacing the ropey infrastructure that becomes so obvious the moment you leave the south east of England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How short peoples' memories are. The channel tunnel lost its backers many millions of pounds and a bridge would do likewise.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"How short peoples' memories are. The channel tunnel lost its backers many millions of pounds and a bridge would do likewise. "

I'm sure that tunnels are generally more complicated and expensive than a bridge. There were probably good reasons as to why we built a tunnel.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

A bridge too far!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So long as it's a draw bridge I'm up for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big idea, no detail, something he can slap his name on and maybe distract from anything else that might be going on, designed mostly to raise his own profile, old buddies at the Telegraph sticking it on their front page.

Yep, this is a patented "Boris Idea".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And lest we forget: The last bridge Boris tried to slap his name on was an unmitigated and now cancelled disaster.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Big idea, no detail, something he can slap his name on and maybe distract from anything else that might be going on, designed mostly to raise his own profile, old buddies at the Telegraph sticking it on their front page.

Yep, this is a patented "Boris Idea"."

like the airport in the Thames estuary and the garden bridge..

sort of thinking outside of his empty box..

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Looking at it from another perspective, the huge amount of jobs and opportunities it would create, both sides of the channel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looking at it from another perspective, the huge amount of jobs and opportunities it would create, both sides of the channel. "
Yeah I am sure there's another carrilion out there rubbing their hands together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible. "

We're sick of hearing what experts say - comes to mind. If you look at every bridge in the world when extreme high winds occurs they close the bridge.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

But then again another border we would have to pay for!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

We're sick of hearing what experts say - comes to mind. If you look at every bridge in the world when extreme high winds occurs they close the bridge."
I agree if Brexit and trump taught us anything experts are almost always wrong.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Looking at it from another perspective, the huge amount of jobs and opportunities it would create, both sides of the channel. "

or, we could use a quarter of what our contribution may be and build some social housing so children are not spending months upon months in hostels and old office blocks..

creating jobs, improving conditions and reducing the extortionate rents paid to slum landlords..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Well the money must be there somewhere. Overseas aid contribution , border control contribution, EU contribution, Brexit Contribution, there's loads of money just spent in other areas apart from where it counts!

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Governments always find money when it suits, but homeland poverty, homelessness, deprivation Ohh we haven't got any!

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

To put it into context. A similar scheme linking the 34 miles between Hong Kong and Macau is costing about £16 billion.

If I remember rightly, the channel tunnel cost around £10 billion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you really think your fellow countrymen want to pay for another route for foreigners to get in.Its not a vote winner..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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I am just fat-fingering all over the place this morning.....

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

They need to sort out the northern train lines out to link all the city's up first the fucking cranks

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Looking at it from another perspective, the huge amount of jobs and opportunities it would create, both sides of the channel.

or, we could use a quarter of what our contribution may be and build some social housing so children are not spending months upon months in hostels and old office blocks..

creating jobs, improving conditions and reducing the extortionate rents paid to slum landlords..

Or let homeless people live on the bridge?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"They need to sort out the northern train lines out to link all the city's up first the fucking cranks "

Like HS2?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They need to sort out the northern train lines out to link all the city's up first the fucking cranks "
Northern problems need sorting by northern people.The bridge is a southern issue.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Boros, like his identical twin Trump, is just a weak man needy for attention.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

"Looking at it from another perspective, the huge amount of jobs and opportunities it would create, both sides of the channel.

or, we could use a quarter of what our contribution may be and build some social housing so children are not spending months upon months in hostels and old office blocks..

creating jobs, improving conditions and reducing the extortionate rents paid to slum landlords..

Or let homeless people live on the bridge?"

Actually engineering wise the supporting towers could actually house people, bit sci fi but I can see it in years to come, accommodation in all sorts of weird and wonderful places.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They need to sort out the northern train lines out to link all the city's up first the fucking cranks Northern problems need sorting by northern people.The bridge is a southern issue. as if Westminster are going to give money to the north for that bob lol"
Yeah nobody down south gives a fuck about the North East.You do need to be connected by a high speed train to Manchester.Its your only hope.HS2 is more pathetic southern cock stroking.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Yr right there bob they think it's Scotland past Manchester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How short peoples' memories are. The channel tunnel lost its backers many millions of pounds and a bridge would do likewise.

I'm sure that tunnels are generally more complicated and expensive than a bridge. There were probably good reasons as to why we built a tunnel. "

Yes I'm sure before building the tunnel the worked out which was the more expensive and complicated a bridge or a tunnel and went for the more expensive and complicated option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yr right there bob they think it's Scotland past Manchester "
The whole north England needs to be devolved and independent from the south.You get fucked hard constantly by London..No vaseline.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

lol don't we just I'd vote for that bob maybe av that bridge u mentioned

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other "

They are linked, via London

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How short peoples' memories are. The channel tunnel lost its backers many millions of pounds and a bridge would do likewise.

I'm sure that tunnels are generally more complicated and expensive than a bridge. There were probably good reasons as to why we built a tunnel.

Yes I'm sure before building the tunnel the worked out which was the more expensive and complicated a bridge or a tunnel and went for the more expensive and complicated option. "
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Not to put a damper on your thinking but the tunnel was designed to carry high speed trains mostly for cargo plus the tunnel doesn't close for high winds.

So yes, they may just have gone with the more expensive option that gave the requirements they needed

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other

They are linked, via London

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of coarse they have to be linked by London cudnt leave London out wtf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How short peoples' memories are. The channel tunnel lost its backers many millions of pounds and a bridge would do likewise.

I'm sure that tunnels are generally more complicated and expensive than a bridge. There were probably good reasons as to why we built a tunnel.

Yes I'm sure before building the tunnel the worked out which was the more expensive and complicated a bridge or a tunnel and went for the more expensive and complicated option. .

Not to put a damper on your thinking but the tunnel was designed to carry high speed trains mostly for cargo plus the tunnel doesn't close for high winds.

So yes, they may just have gone with the more expensive option that gave the requirements they needed

Build a bridge over one of the most busiest shipping routes, yep great idea

Fully loaded oil tanker loses engine power and thrusters, drifting straight towards bridge.

Environment issues, high winds

how many leg supports would this bridge need and what depth, how deep

it aint going to happen.

another tunnel will be built if required but a bridge will not happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other

They are linked, via London

of coarse they have to be linked by London cudnt leave London out wtf "
You know it.Fuck London.Its a shit hole and their mostly cunts.Freedom for the north.!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other

They are linked, via London

of coarse they have to be linked by London cudnt leave London out wtf You know it.Fuck London.Its a shit hole and their mostly cunts.Freedom for the north.!"

Have you been taking vocab lessons from Trump?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol, the "in thing" is to hate Trump

so many follow like sheep thinking they are cool

kind of sad really

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Actually what BoJo said was another fixed link, not another tunnel.

If a fixed link for cars wad to be built then neither a bridge nor a tunnel would be best. From the feasibility studies done at the time of the last fixed link, for cars and trucks, the best solution is Bridge, Tunnel, Bridge.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"lol, the "in thing" is to hate Trump

so many follow like sheep thinking they are cool

kind of sad really"

Even sadder that you think that all the people who don't like him are 'sheep' just doing the 'in thing'.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"lol, the "in thing" is to hate Trump

so many follow like sheep thinking they are cool

kind of sad really"

i don't hate him, i have no place in my life for hate..

what i don't like is his attitude to women, other people who just happen to be a different colour, disabled people, how he has treated decent hard working people and small businesses in his own business life thus far..

any man who can say to another man that his teenage daughter 'is a great piece of ass' for me is beyond the pale..

i don't see you as the type of person for whom some of the above are acceptable, maybe its fun for you to bait people without actually looking in depth at what this man has done..?

this is not a 'left or right' issue, nor is it about what was essentially a choice for the American people between 2 bad people and he is to be excused because of whatever about Hilary..

it's about common decency and not a set of 400 or 600 thread count sheets in a room..

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

"Actually what BoJo said was another fixed link, not another tunnel.

Isn’t one tunnel across bad enough...?

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"Hs2 stops at Leeds was thinking more like linking Liverpool Manchester Leeds hull shefeild Newcastle but of coarse they needed the money to link one side of London to the other

They are linked, via London

of coarse they have to be linked by London cudnt leave London out wtf You know it.Fuck London.Its a shit hole and their mostly cunts.Freedom for the north.!"

You should have a referendum, that always clears things up.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible.

We're sick of hearing what experts say - comes to mind. If you look at every bridge in the world when extreme high winds occurs they close the bridge. I agree if Brexit and trump taught us anything experts are almost always wrong.

Remember that when you are sat with an oncologist and they are explaining the impact of cancer to you

" Experts are almost always wrong"

That'll get you back on your feet won't it?

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

I gather from friends and family that there were a lot of experts contributing on the Johnson idea.

Although it sounds a great idea, it's just a Johnson idea! I wouldn't read too much into it, the estuary airport idea was much more plausible and would be more beneficial for taking the heat off of other airports.

The tunnel needs to work more efficiently, or what about building another tunnel?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

I don’t agree with much that Boris Johnson does or says these days - but I do admire his ability to project big ideas.

The U.K. should be at the forefront of big ideas - more so, post Brexit. Why shouldn’t the U.K. think big and plan big? Our history is full of engineering marvels but in recent years we don’t appear to be able to even add runways to airports and building new rail track is vehemently opposed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yet experts in the field of civil engineering say it's entirely possible. "

Possible doesn’t make it sensible!

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"I don’t agree with much that Boris Johnson does or says these days - but I do admire his ability to project big ideas.

Exactly that. Any link would be a bridge, then a tunnel and then a bridge. This is the model being used around the world now. It allows for the shipping lanes, albeit narrower, to be kept open.

We now need to think about the impact of AI and technology a decade in advance. Ships will be controlled remotely by computer and satellite, allowing for them to pass through shipping lanes closer together. Trucks will be the same. Driverless "roadtrains" will be able to cross faster, more cheaply and more efficiently. The only downside is that hazardous product still wouldn't be able to use a tunnel.

We are on the cusp of the next technological revolution. Is now the time to start thinking of the infrastructure that we will need?

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

In his latest outlandish scheme was to suggest a free trading group for Europe in which people and money were treated equally..

If only there was a model for this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t agree with much that Boris Johnson does or says these days - but I do admire his ability to project big ideas.

Exactly that. Any link would be a bridge, then a tunnel and then a bridge. This is the model being used around the world now. It allows for the shipping lanes, albeit narrower, to be kept open.

We are on the cusp of the next technological revolution. Is now the time to start thinking of the infrastructure that we will need?"

The busiest shipping lane in the world and your going to make it narrower? Accident waiting to happen! Technology can fail so just imagine the chaos when a ship hits one of the supports. If anyone has ever traversed the pont normandy they know how scary that can be - imagine on a windy day!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose that it will be another private financed funded project then

Anyways it would never work because the french side would keep going on strike holding everyone up for ransom

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"I suppose that it will be another private financed funded project then

Anyways it would never work because the french side would keep going on strike holding everyone up for ransom

Its only a talking point. There are no plans to make it happen, either now or in the future.

It does allow thoughts of what infrastructure we may need in the next 50 years though, given the massive technological changes we are going to see soon.

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By *iknaknok42Man
over a year ago

limavady

I wonder at what point on the bridge do we change from driving on the left hand lane to driving on the right hand lane.

That would be interesting.lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder at what point on the bridge do we change from driving on the left hand lane to driving on the right hand lane.

That would be interesting.lol

A crossover at the halfway point would be fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder at what point on the bridge do we change from driving on the left hand lane to driving on the right hand lane.

That would be interesting.lol

A crossover at the halfway point would be fun

Is that at the same time we stop driving MPH and change to k/ph

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Boris the brexit talks are making you look like a right cheesey bell end, and Herr Farage is hogging the headlines, you need to do something quick to divert attention and win by your title as Britains leading exponent of slightly racist bolloxs, so what are you going to do?'

" We need a bridge"

" You've still got it big fella!!"

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By *iknaknok42Man
over a year ago

limavady

I know where there is a bridge i could sell to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder at what point on the bridge do we change from driving on the left hand lane to driving on the right hand lane.

That would be interesting.lol

A crossover at the halfway point would be fun

Is that at the same time we stop driving MPH and change to k/ph

That time should have been somewhere in the 70s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

people who live in key west?

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago

Burton on Trent

So far then the 350 million is paying for the NHS, a new royal yacht, a bridge to France, farming/fishing subsidies, re-forming the old exEU regulatory bodies that we will be keeping.

Can a brexiter do my household budget for me as they must be experts at stretching a pound.

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

If it's that flimsy I'm hiring a car for Herr Farage and Johnson

And preying for a hurricane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

If it's that flimsy I'm hiring a car for Herr Farage and Johnson

And preying for a hurricane"

Expensive way to do em in..

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

people who live in key west?"

This bridge would be at least 3 times longer, wouldn't have islands to support it along the route, would be across one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, would have to be much higher to accomodate said boats etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

people who live in key west?

i know ... only an idiot would advocate such a stupid idea

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

people who live in key west?

i know ... only an idiot would advocate such a stupid idea"

President Macron of France springs to mind then. I notice non of the Boris haters on here have mentioned President Macron's comments on the 'Boris bridge'. On President Macron's recent visit to the UK last week he was told about the bridge idea and said in reply "Let's do it!"

Looks like not only Boris is a prat then, Macron is a prat as well for agreeing to it.

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"Who would want to drive over a flimsy fookin bridge in poor weather and miles from the shore.?

people who live in key west?

i know ... only an idiot would advocate such a stupid idea

Looks like not only Boris is a prat then, Macron is a prat as well for agreeing to it.

Yes Boris is a Pratt macron was taking the piss it was made quite clear

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Funny that the so called liberal left talk about building bridges, not borders. When Trump announced his wall with Mexico his opponents said "we want to build bridges, not walls". Now Boris suggests building a bridge (which Macron agreed with) and the liberal left trash the idea!

Really couldn't make this shit up.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Funny that the so called liberal left talk about building bridges, not borders. When Trump announced his wall with Mexico his opponents said "we want to build bridges, not walls". Now Boris suggests building a bridge (which Macron agreed with) and the liberal left trash the idea!

Really couldn't make this shit up.

Only if you're so dim as to think that the talk of building bridges literally meant that building any bridge, anywhere, was a good idea.

(it was a metaphor)

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

Really couldn't make this shit up.

Only if you're so dim as to think that the talk of building bridges literally meant that building any bridge, anywhere, was a good idea.

(it was a metaphor) "

He is that dim

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Really couldn't make this shit up.

Only if you're so dim as to think that the talk of building bridges literally meant that building any bridge, anywhere, was a good idea.

(it was a metaphor) "

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Really couldn't make this shit up.

Only if you're so dim as to think that the talk of building bridges literally meant that building any bridge, anywhere, was a good idea.

(it was a metaphor) "

Oh, like when Boris said Brexit was going to be a Titanic success?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should ideas for building a bridge to France wait for Brexit terms to be completed? Boris thinks a bridge is a great idea - he might have suggested Carillion to do it a few days ago

Will there be boats at the other end of bridge or pontoons to keep our feet dry

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over a year ago

Really couldn't make this shit up.

Only if you're so dim as to think that the talk of building bridges literally meant that building any bridge, anywhere, was a good idea.

(it was a metaphor) "

Ya fooka!, how much will a metaphor cost to build over the channel?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

A bridge across the Channel is technically possible. It has been for years. That doesn't mean that the experts, meaning engineers who build everything else you stand on or in, shouldn't be listened to.

It can be built. None of them are saying it should be built. That's Boris. The one who also thinks that Brexit will be a great success...

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