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"But is he wrong? " are we talking about "this" statement... or are we talking about the multitude of other he has made in the last 2 and a bit years.... | |||
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"But is he wrong? " . No Haiti is a shit hole country | |||
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"But is he wrong? . No Haiti is a shit hole country " Like Moss side in Manc ? | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal" "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. " We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero " Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. " Is he really...we only have your word for that which is not to be trusted....so lets see some facts with your accusations | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. Is he really...we only have your word for that which is not to be trusted....so lets see some facts with your accusations " Try reading a newspaper once in a while other than the ridiculously biased Pro Corbyn Guardian rag. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. Is he really...we only have your word for that which is not to be trusted....so lets see some facts with your accusations Try reading a newspaper once in a while other than the ridiculously biased Pro Corbyn Guardian rag. " Facts...but i bet you dont because you cant....more hotair from you | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. " Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back??????????" People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up | |||
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"But is he wrong? " It's a matter of opinion but one thing Trump is in, is Excellent Health. Trump just had his annual medical checkup and his physician said the examination went "exceptionally well" and that Trump is in "Excellent Health". Let's face it we all saw this during the election campaign when Clinton looked like she was about to drop dead at one point collapsing as she got out of a car. As Trump said Clinton just didn't have the stamina to be President. Trump has got the stamina needed to be President. One thing you most definitely need if you're (allegedly) fucking a porn star is stamina. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up " Said the man on a swingers site. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. " What kudos does he get for fucking an entire country over? | |||
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" Try reading a newspaper once in a while other than the ridiculously biased Pro Corbyn Guardian rag. " The majority of Guardian writers wanted Corbyn out almost as soon as soon as he got in as leader. They've had to be more supportive on the back of the election result, but generally the paper would still prefer a more centre-left leader. It's certainly not the Corbyn fan club you claim. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up Said the man on a swingers site. " So you think being a swinger and having no morals go hand in hand....wrong yet again...in fact your wrong on almost everything...id call him a cheating scumbag but then i do have some morals...unlike you | |||
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"But is he wrong? . No Haiti is a shit hole country Like Moss side in Manc ?" . That was twenty years ago!! It's no where near as much of a shit hole as it used to be | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole" Sadly along with Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola, Congo and several others......fallen into a pit of corruption. | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Sadly along with Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola, Congo and several others......fallen into a pit of corruption." Americans get the best president money can buy.Its as corrupt as anywhere on earth.Now it has a corrupt racist as Potus. | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Sadly along with Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola, Congo and several others......fallen into a pit of corruption." Corruption is endemic in all societies and is present in many aspects, in the 'civilised' countries it's called lobbying, entertainment accounts and suchlike.. | |||
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"But is he wrong? It's a matter of opinion but one thing Trump is in, is Excellent Health. Trump just had his annual medical checkup and his physician said the examination went "exceptionally well" and that Trump is in "Excellent Health". Let's face it we all saw this during the election campaign when Clinton looked like she was about to drop dead at one point collapsing as she got out of a car. As Trump said Clinton just didn't have the stamina to be President. Trump has got the stamina needed to be President. One thing you most definitely need if you're (allegedly) fucking a porn star is stamina. " He said all his tests came back positive. Did they do STI checks? | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up Said the man on a swingers site. " You're on a swingers site and don't know the difference between swinging and cheating? | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Sadly along with Zimbabwe, South Africa, Angola, Congo and several others......fallen into a pit of corruption. Americans get the best president money can buy.Its as corrupt as anywhere on earth.Now it has a corrupt racist as Potus." . Clinton actually out spent him, I'm really not sure how a country with 350 million people ends up with two of the biggest shit bags going as their choice?. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up Said the man on a swingers site. So you think being a swinger and having no morals go hand in hand....wrong yet again...in fact your wrong on almost everything...id call him a cheating scumbag but then i do have some morals...unlike you " Mainstream society sees swinging as somewhat morally questionable. You probably think that they're wrong and think that they're being judgemental but yet here you are questioning others morals and being judgemental yourself. | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. Kudos for going behind his wife's back?????????? People with no moral compass dont give a fuck tbh...i think you just pulled one up Said the man on a swingers site. So you think being a swinger and having no morals go hand in hand....wrong yet again...in fact your wrong on almost everything...id call him a cheating scumbag but then i do have some morals...unlike you Mainstream society sees swinging as somewhat morally questionable. You probably think that they're wrong and think that they're being judgemental but yet here you are questioning others morals and being judgemental yourself. " Really you think cheating is ok...id think anyone in mainstream society would question your morals based on your opinions....and is Trump a swinger now...nah i only judge people with low morals...then everyone knows that....a cheat is a cheat whether on a swinging site or not | |||
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"Never in my lifetime have I seen such an ignorant, vulgar person in a position of global leadership." Some on here think hes amazing and can do no wrong a man with the highest integrity...but really it only goes to show there ignorance | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole" Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it! | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags " wayyyy over the top nastiest vile person this world has whitnessed wow Get a grip he's a racist gobshite but think yr over reacting a tad bit there lol | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!" True the extremists over look what haiti has been through.Also they forget it's history. The Haitian Revolution was the largest and most successful slave rebellion in the Western Hemisphere. Slaves initiated the rebellion in 1791 and by 1803 they had succeeded in ending not just slavery but French control over the colony. | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags wayyyy over the top nastiest vile person this world has whitnessed wow Get a grip he's a racist gobshite but think yr over reacting a tad bit there lol" Thats your opinion if you don’t like it tough | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags wayyyy over the top nastiest vile person this world has whitnessed wow Get a grip he's a racist gobshite but think yr over reacting a tad bit there lol Thats your opinion if you don’t like it tough" too right, much worse than Stalin, Hitler and pol pot! | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags wayyyy over the top nastiest vile person this world has whitnessed wow Get a grip he's a racist gobshite but think yr over reacting a tad bit there lol Thats your opinion if you don’t like it tough too right, much worse than Stalin, Hitler and pol pot! " .. | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!" . Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government" What a small mind you have lol....dear oh dear...ever been to the other half of Dominican Republic | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags " I think even you would admit he has a way to go to catch up with Vlad the Impaler or for that matter Josef Mengele or Harold Shipman. | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags I think even you would admit he has a way to go to catch up with Vlad the Impaler or for that matter Josef Mengele or Harold Shipman." I dunno i bet a few have been killed in the midle east under instructions from him ? | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags I think even you would admit he has a way to go to catch up with Vlad the Impaler or for that matter Josef Mengele or Harold Shipman. I dunno i bet a few have been killed in the midle east under instructions from him ? " you could say that about blair Aswell tho don't you think ? | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government What a small mind you have lol....dear oh dear...ever been to the other half of Dominican Republic " Haiti is poor but some prefer to disrespect other nations by referring to them as trump and sick boy has.Sad...so sad. | |||
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"Trump is one the nastiest vile person this world has witnessed And anyone who supports him it or his Raciest background should be ashamed of themselves Bow your heads you scum bags I think even you would admit he has a way to go to catch up with Vlad the Impaler or for that matter Josef Mengele or Harold Shipman. I dunno i bet a few have been killed in the midle east under instructions from him ? you could say that about blair Aswell tho don't you think ?" Yeah i do | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. Is he really...we only have your word for that which is not to be trusted....so lets see some facts with your accusations Try reading a newspaper once in a while other than the ridiculously biased Pro Corbyn Guardian rag. " Clearly you havent read the Guardian lately. To describe it as pro Corbyn is idiotic. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! " No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. " You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. " Hypocrite | |||
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"there is another "alledged" story coming out tonight about trump and a porn star who he "may" have made a $130,000 payment to to keep an affair/one night stand secret whilst he was married to melania...... interesting thing about this... is that this story seems to have been broken by the Conservative paper... Wall street Journal "If" Trump fucked a porn star then he gets extra kudos in my book. The man is a legend. We know hes your hero....anyone racist is your hero Corbyn is an anti semitic racist and I can't stand him, so sorry but you are wrong. Yet. Again. Corbyn is your hero though so you have an anti semitic racist for a hero. Is he really...we only have your word for that which is not to be trusted....so lets see some facts with your accusations Try reading a newspaper once in a while other than the ridiculously biased Pro Corbyn Guardian rag. Clearly you havent read the Guardian lately. To describe it as pro Corbyn is idiotic." Guardian columnists like baby face Owen Jones will go to any lengths to defend his idol and saviour Corbyn. You don't have to read the Guardian to know that, Owen Jones gets his baby face mug on telly enough to air his views. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. " What the hell are you on | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government" Ahh, the white man's burden. | |||
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"But is he wrong? . No Haiti is a shit hole country Like Moss side in Manc ?" No more like grimsby | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government What a small mind you have lol....dear oh dear...ever been to the other half of Dominican Republic Haiti is poor but some prefer to disrespect other nations by referring to them as trump and sick boy has.Sad...so sad." . Haiti is a shit hole, that's why everybody wants to get the fuck out of there!, beating about the bush on terminology is irrelevant. Poverty is poverty but there's something endemic about Haitian culture that leads to that long term fucked upness. It's like that bin man that won 10 million on the lottery, sure he was no longer in poverty but it didn't stop him being fucked up and all the money got blown on shit and living it up and now he's back to being fucked up and poor | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time " As are everyone else | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. " Your lying again.. You made no such distinction.. And your ignorance is once again shown.. You support them clearly as you attempt to pathetically differentiate between the Nazis in pre and 2nd World War Germany and those who now wear their regalia and shout their vile racism.. It was right to oppose them then with force and its equally right now to oppose them at the appropriate level that they the Nazis wearing scum set.. when they are wearing body armour and carrying assault weapons then they set the agenda.. | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time " Anyone like him who supports fascists marching and using the chants of the Nazis as he does and then only condemns those who oppose them as he does deserves to be and will be challenged.. As when he refused to condemn the murder of Jo Cox.. | |||
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"You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. " I will leave Martin Niemöller to reply to you for all antifascists (you clearly are not therefore you must be a fascist): First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. I know you probably will not bother because nobody can tell you anything about conflict escalation or how austerity breeds extremism, but if you have have some time to spare you may gain something out of reading this (it will only take you a minute or so): https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392 | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time " I've been reading but not commenting on this thread for a reason. I don't think it's ever right to kill someone just because of what they believe or even what they say. And yes, I include fascists and Nazis in that. However if you can't condemn those who are threatening people with violence, removal of their basic human rights and their protections under law as equals citizens, especially if the determination is on grounds of religion or race, without also condemning those who are standing firm against such then your moral compass is way off true. Even if violence is shown by both sides it's not always right to condemn both equally. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. " And you start with this again. Just accept it, nobody agrees with you on this, and to call antifa thugs when faced with armed Neo Nazis is preposterous. Why do you constantly make exvuses for Nazis? | |||
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"Ah, so we really did civilise the savage then, eh? " If you critically examine the British Empire it is a reasonable claim that for the most part we improved the lives of those we ruled. However that is more than counterbalanced by the damage we did when withdrawing. In fact there is a large body of evidence that this was not down to incompetence but deliberate acts of spite by the withdrawing administration. We even attempted to sew the seeds of malcontent and sedition in hong Kong | |||
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"Ah, so we really did civilise the savage then, eh? If you critically examine the British Empire it is a reasonable claim that for the most part we improved the lives of those we ruled. However that is more than counterbalanced by the damage we did when withdrawing. In fact there is a large body of evidence that this was not down to incompetence but deliberate acts of spite by the withdrawing administration. We even attempted to sew the seeds of malcontent and sedition in hong Kong " And all the murdering and slavery whilst we were there? Oh, and the genocide, don't forget that. | |||
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"If you critically examine the British Empire it is a reasonable claim that for the most part we improved the lives of those we ruled. However that is more than counterbalanced by the damage we did when withdrawing. " by turning up at theirs, murdering their people until they capitulate, use them as cheap/forced labour, then when they have been asset stripped until they are worthless to us, leave them to fester in our pool of shit .... yeah, very reasonable .... not | |||
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"Ah, so we really did civilise the savage then, eh? If you critically examine the British Empire it is a reasonable claim that for the most part we improved the lives of those we ruled. However that is more than counterbalanced by the damage we did when withdrawing. In fact there is a large body of evidence that this was not down to incompetence but deliberate acts of spite by the withdrawing administration. We even attempted to sew the seeds of malcontent and sedition in hong Kong And all the murdering and slavery whilst we were there? Oh, and the genocide, don't forget that.. Murdering genocide and slavery were part of life back then, the entire world including Africans and Indians ran on it, in some parts they still do!. There is such a thing as context " I'm just itching to know what context you're going to frame that with in order to make it look like the British occupation was a good thing. | |||
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"Ah, so we really did civilise the savage then, eh? If you critically examine the British Empire it is a reasonable claim that for the most part we improved the lives of those we ruled. However that is more than counterbalanced by the damage we did when withdrawing. In fact there is a large body of evidence that this was not down to incompetence but deliberate acts of spite by the withdrawing administration. We even attempted to sew the seeds of malcontent and sedition in hong Kong And all the murdering and slavery whilst we were there? Oh, and the genocide, don't forget that.. Murdering genocide and slavery were part of life back then, the entire world including Africans and Indians ran on it, in some parts they still do!. There is such a thing as context I'm just itching to know what context you're going to frame that with in order to make it look like the British occupation was a good thing." . Because your attempting to frame 18th and 19th century political and business models using 21st century morality!. Let's take Haiti as an example. The yanks occupied it for 30 years using brutality and murder to govern.... Not good. Papa doc dictated over it for 30 years using brutality and murder. The only difference is all least the yanks gave them some really decent infrastructure and improvements, hospitals, schools, bridges, roads, jobs.. Papa doc gave them nothing but the brutality and the murder. . The original slave rebellion in Haiti of course issued the murder of all whites except those of use, men women and children but women who excepted being "married" to none whites were permitted to live.... Yes context, life was brutal back then for everybody, regardless of colour | |||
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"by turning up at theirs, murdering their people until they capitulate, use them as cheap/forced labour, then when they have been asset stripped until they are worthless to us, leave them to fester in our pool of shit .... yeah, very reasonable .... not" You make a classic mistake. You equate unprincipled semi criminal British fortune hunters and the companies they formed to give some facade of respectability to their enterprises (like the East India company) with the British establishment in the form of the civil service and military. For the most part these were positive influences, the truth of this can bee seen in how many of our former vassal states are now proud to be members of the Commonwealth, have the queen as their head and allow the UK armed forces to recruit in their countries. As for slavery and the slave trade, you do know that started with Francis Drake and John Hawkins round 1660 and was over with the passing of the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833. So slavery lasted less than 200 years. The suppression of Catholics especially in Ireland can be shown to have a much longer history and more bloody history. | |||
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"by turning up at theirs, murdering their people until they capitulate, use them as cheap/forced labour, then when they have been asset stripped until they are worthless to us, leave them to fester in our pool of shit .... yeah, very reasonable .... not You make a classic mistake. You equate unprincipled semi criminal British fortune hunters and the companies they formed to give some facade of respectability to their enterprises (like the East India company) with the British establishment in the form of the civil service and military. For the most part these were positive influences, the truth of this can bee seen in how many of our former vassal states are now proud to be members of the Commonwealth, have the queen as their head and allow the UK armed forces to recruit in their countries. As for slavery and the slave trade, you do know that started with Francis Drake and John Hawkins round 1660 and was over with the passing of the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833. So slavery lasted less than 200 years. The suppression of Catholics especially in Ireland can be shown to have a much longer history and more bloody history." Slavery and slave trading has been around a lot longer than Catholicism. | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government this upsets me im from the Caribbean should the slaves just remain slaves and not fight for freedom? And for your info hati became poor because after the revolution all of Europe and America refused to trade with them as to discourage any other Caribbean country from doing the same ...maybe people like you read before you past judgement . You see you've taken everything I wrote and done the usual left wing twist,I never once mentioned that slavery was good and never once said that fighting for freedom was the wrong thing. The British government started the campaign to make slavery and slave trading illegal at the start of the 18th century by 1750 there'd committed nearly a third of the royal navy on stop and searches on the east coast of Africa, they spent 50 years signing agreements with other countries making it illegal for them to keep trading they almost bankrupted the country in the 100 year long campaign against it, yes it was big business at the time and just like now it's pretty hard saying no to big business. That's not a defence of the British government, it's context on their actual achievements in stopping what was seen in pretty much only the UK as a barbaric business. " you seem to be mentioning context in alot of your post well heres a the context the uk stopped the slave trade not because they believed it was a bad thing ..they stopped it because france spain and Portugal was beginning to profit too much from it and was becoming to powerful | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government this upsets me im from the Caribbean should the slaves just remain slaves and not fight for freedom? And for your info hati became poor because after the revolution all of Europe and America refused to trade with them as to discourage any other Caribbean country from doing the same ...maybe people like you read before you past judgement . You see you've taken everything I wrote and done the usual left wing twist,I never once mentioned that slavery was good and never once said that fighting for freedom was the wrong thing. The British government started the campaign to make slavery and slave trading illegal at the start of the 18th century by 1750 there'd committed nearly a third of the royal navy on stop and searches on the east coast of Africa, they spent 50 years signing agreements with other countries making it illegal for them to keep trading they almost bankrupted the country in the 100 year long campaign against it, yes it was big business at the time and just like now it's pretty hard saying no to big business. That's not a defence of the British government, it's context on their actual achievements in stopping what was seen in pretty much only the UK as a barbaric business. you seem to be mentioning context in alot of your post well heres a the context the uk stopped the slave trade not because they believed it was a bad thing ..they stopped it because france spain and Portugal was beginning to profit too much from it and was becoming to powerful " What made the North Africans stop? | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government this upsets me im from the Caribbean should the slaves just remain slaves and not fight for freedom? And for your info hati became poor because after the revolution all of Europe and America refused to trade with them as to discourage any other Caribbean country from doing the same ...maybe people like you read before you past judgement . You see you've taken everything I wrote and done the usual left wing twist,I never once mentioned that slavery was good and never once said that fighting for freedom was the wrong thing. The British government started the campaign to make slavery and slave trading illegal at the start of the 18th century by 1750 there'd committed nearly a third of the royal navy on stop and searches on the east coast of Africa, they spent 50 years signing agreements with other countries making it illegal for them to keep trading they almost bankrupted the country in the 100 year long campaign against it, yes it was big business at the time and just like now it's pretty hard saying no to big business. That's not a defence of the British government, it's context on their actual achievements in stopping what was seen in pretty much only the UK as a barbaric business. you seem to be mentioning context in alot of your post well heres a the context the uk stopped the slave trade not because they believed it was a bad thing ..they stopped it because france spain and Portugal was beginning to profit too much from it and was becoming to powerful What made the North Africans stop? " They haven’t! | |||
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"A bit like Haiti used to be not to bad until they "got their freedom" and ran the county themselves and turned it into a shit hole Erm... I think the 7.1 earthquake (ironically 8 years yesterday) and the 2 cat 5 hurricanes may have something to do with it!. Natural disasters effect the worse country's more because there run badly otherwise the Dominican republic would be a shit hole as well,I mean let's not kid ourselves Haiti is a shit hole of their own making and counties like that should be run by the UN until there at least capable of some form of half decent government this upsets me im from the Caribbean should the slaves just remain slaves and not fight for freedom? And for your info hati became poor because after the revolution all of Europe and America refused to trade with them as to discourage any other Caribbean country from doing the same ...maybe people like you read before you past judgement . You see you've taken everything I wrote and done the usual left wing twist,I never once mentioned that slavery was good and never once said that fighting for freedom was the wrong thing. The British government started the campaign to make slavery and slave trading illegal at the start of the 18th century by 1750 there'd committed nearly a third of the royal navy on stop and searches on the east coast of Africa, they spent 50 years signing agreements with other countries making it illegal for them to keep trading they almost bankrupted the country in the 100 year long campaign against it, yes it was big business at the time and just like now it's pretty hard saying no to big business. That's not a defence of the British government, it's context on their actual achievements in stopping what was seen in pretty much only the UK as a barbaric business. you seem to be mentioning context in alot of your post well heres a the context the uk stopped the slave trade not because they believed it was a bad thing ..they stopped it because france spain and Portugal was beginning to profit too much from it and was becoming to powerful What made the North Africans stop? They haven’t!" The whites have long since decided it's easier to put them prison when slavery wasn't palatable...Maybe the African should do the same thing in Africa. | |||
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" You make a classic mistake. You equate unprincipled semi criminal British fortune hunters and the companies they formed to give some facade of respectability to their enterprises (like the East India company) with the British establishment in the form of the civil service and military. For the most part these were positive influences, the truth of this can bee seen in how many of our former vassal states are now proud to be members of the Commonwealth, have the queen as their head and allow the UK armed forces to recruit in their countries. As for slavery and the slave trade, you do know that started with Francis Drake and John Hawkins round 1660 and was over with the passing of the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833. So slavery lasted less than 200 years. The suppression of Catholics especially in Ireland can be shown to have a much longer history and more bloody history." naafi in your complicity | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. Your lying again.. You made no such distinction.. And your ignorance is once again shown.. You support them clearly as you attempt to pathetically differentiate between the Nazis in pre and 2nd World War Germany and those who now wear their regalia and shout their vile racism.. It was right to oppose them then with force and its equally right now to oppose them at the appropriate level that they the Nazis wearing scum set.. when they are wearing body armour and carrying assault weapons then they set the agenda.. " The only one telling lies here is you. I did make the distinction between fighting the Nazis in a war and opposing them at a protest rally, i even went to the trouble of finding the exact post where i made the distinction for you on the other thread, here is the link..... www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/716748#message_15383449 Maybe you'd like to offer a public apology now for making false statements about me. | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time Anyone like him who supports fascists marching and using the chants of the Nazis as he does and then only condemns those who oppose them as he does deserves to be and will be challenged.. As when he refused to condemn the murder of Jo Cox.. " I didn't only condemn those who oppose though, i condemned both sides in Charlottesville and have done many times on numerous threads. Here is the link to the thread which you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about again, i suggest you read it again where i said i condemned both sides in Charlottesville... www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/716748 I also condemned the killing of Jo Cox on here at the time that it happened, and will condemn it again now here publicly. So once again maybe you should apologise for making false statements about me......won't be holding my breath though. | |||
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"i think it is interesting that centy went to conflating swinging with cheating to defend his boy... maybe that says loads for centy's attitude to swinging.. and to other swingers!! No surprises given he thinks anyone who fought fascism was a vigilante.. Bizarre given he had relatives who served the country fighting the same vermin.. You've taken it completely out of context but not surprising coming from you. As I said the other day there is a world of difference between fighting the Nazis in a war, and opposing them during peacetime at a protest rally. There is no place in a civilised society for violent vigilantism as demonstrated by the Antifa knuckle dragging thugs. Law and order and court process are the marks of a civilised society and we have police and court process to deal with such people during peacetime. And you start with this again. Just accept it, nobody agrees with you on this, and to call antifa thugs when faced with armed Neo Nazis is preposterous. Why do you constantly make exvuses for Nazis?" I didn't 'start with this again' It's Surreysensual who 'started with this again'. Try reading the thread properly if you want to see who started it. You say 'no one agrees with me on this' yet at least 2 other people publicly agreed with me on the other thread. Here is a link to the other thread where explicitlyrics agreed with what i was saying, and you went on to attack him too.... www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/716748#message_15383099 | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time Anyone like him who supports fascists marching and using the chants of the Nazis as he does and then only condemns those who oppose them as he does deserves to be and will be challenged.. As when he refused to condemn the murder of Jo Cox.. I didn't only condemn those who oppose though, i condemned both sides in Charlottesville and have done many times on numerous threads. Here is the link to the thread which you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about again, i suggest you read it again where i said i condemned both sides in Charlottesville... www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/716748 I also condemned the killing of Jo Cox on here at the time that it happened, and will condemn it again now here publicly. So once again maybe you should apologise for making false statements about me......won't be holding my breath though. " You had it dragged from you and it took ages for that to happen, on Jo Cox you spent weeks hiding g behind the mental health excuse and only when it was in the public domain he was a supporter of the neo Nazis did you rightly condemn him.. You have never accepted that the murder in charlottesville of a protester by one of the Nazis supporting vermin was wrong.. Why? | |||
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"Ffs this always ends up as centy bashing the guys expressing his opinion no need to piss yr pants over it same fucking crew every time Anyone like him who supports fascists marching and using the chants of the Nazis as he does and then only condemns those who oppose them as he does deserves to be and will be challenged.. As when he refused to condemn the murder of Jo Cox.. I didn't only condemn those who oppose though, i condemned both sides in Charlottesville and have done many times on numerous threads. Here is the link to the thread which you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about again, i suggest you read it again where i said i condemned both sides in Charlottesville... www.fabswingers.com/forum/politics/716748 I also condemned the killing of Jo Cox on here at the time that it happened, and will condemn it again now here publicly. So once again maybe you should apologise for making false statements about me......won't be holding my breath though. You had it dragged from you and it took ages for that to happen, on Jo Cox you spent weeks hiding g behind the mental health excuse and only when it was in the public domain he was a supporter of the neo Nazis did you rightly condemn him.. You have never accepted that the murder in charlottesville of a protester by one of the Nazis supporting vermin was wrong.. Why? " No apology from you for making now numerous false statements about me then...told you I wouldn't hold my breath. | |||
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