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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Petrochemical firm Ineos has launched a legal challenge to the Scottish government's effective ban on fracking

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Ineos Shale has applied for a judicial review of the decision, citing "serious concerns" about its legitimacy.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Petrochemical firm Ineos has launched a legal challenge to the Scottish government's effective ban on fracking

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Ineos Shale has applied for a judicial review of the decision, citing "serious concerns" about its legitimacy.

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It must be hard for you to chose between your beloved SNP and your beloved hydrocarbons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fracking needs outlawing full stop....one thing i agree on with the NATS

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Petrochemical firm Ineos has launched a legal challenge to the Scottish government's effective ban on fracking

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Ineos Shale has applied for a judicial review of the decision, citing "serious concerns" about its legitimacy.

It must be hard for you to chose between your beloved SNP and your beloved hydrocarbons "

I already told you I no longer support the SNP, I also gave you the reasons for this

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Petrochemical firm Ineos has launched a legal challenge to the Scottish government's effective ban on fracking

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Ineos Shale has applied for a judicial review of the decision, citing "serious concerns" about its legitimacy.

It must be hard for you to chose between your beloved SNP and your beloved hydrocarbons

I already told you I no longer support the SNP, I also gave you the reasons for this"

Which highlights small minded ideas such as brexit and indepence, which promise happiness if only political decisions where made over "here" rather than over "there"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It highlights profits with no conscience vs environmental issues and concerns.

And how greed matters more than commonsense and public welfare. I'd vote for any party that bans fracking.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Which highlights small minded ideas such as brexit and indepence, which promise happiness if only political decisions where made over "here" rather than over "there""

What saddens me is the rush to break every political union up while multinational conglomerates rush to become ever larger as they merge and merge again. I wonder how long until the board of International Inc is saying we are replacing democracy, you all work for us now. Meet the New World CEO...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you take the cynical, and some would say, correct view, that voting is a placebo for the masses and that our global lives are already determined by wealth and banks, as they are, with one being above the rest, you come to that conclusion already. Helpless feeling, isn't it?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"If you take the cynical, and some would say, correct view, that voting is a placebo for the masses and that our global lives are already determined by wealth and banks, as they are, with one being above the rest, you come to that conclusion already. Helpless feeling, isn't it?"

I do not think we are fully enslaved yet, but not far off...

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Which highlights small minded ideas such as brexit and indepence, which promise happiness if only political decisions where made over "here" rather than over "there"

What saddens me is the rush to break every political union up while multinational conglomerates rush to become ever larger as they merge and merge again. I wonder how long until the board of International Inc is saying we are replacing democracy, you all work for us now. Meet the New World CEO... "

Yeah, people worry about an "EU Army" I'm more worried about G4S taking over and replacing our military with an outsourced option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A report out by NASA this week discovered the recent jump in methane emissions from oil and gas production appears to be a whole lot bigger than we previously thought.Natural gas is not part of the climate solution, it's part of the problem.Fracking is much much worse for the environment than thought.Methane emissions are responsible for about a quarter of the human-caused global warming we’re suffering today.

Science will finish fracking for good.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"It highlights profits with no conscience vs environmental issues and concerns.

And how greed matters more than commonsense and public welfare. I'd vote for any party that bans fracking. "

Yeah, no need for fracking in Scotland. Solar energy probably isn't a good fit, but there is enough wind, and water for hydroelectric power production.

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Scottish Labour branch for months and months kept up with there whole the Scottish government should ban fracking even tho it was not devolved and they we told these companies could challenge the Scottish government in court

Let's hope these companies get told to piss off Scotlands people do not want fracking

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Perhaps ineos will hold Scotland to ransom by closing grangemouth

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Perhaps ineos will hold Scotland to ransom by closing grangemouth"

This is exactly what will happen.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Perhaps ineos will hold Scotland to ransom by closing grangemouth

This is exactly what will happen.

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one way to fuck us!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Perhaps ineos will hold Scotland to ransom by closing grangemouth"

Ah the joys of unregulated capitalism and a corrupt government that every member of is always for sale, its just a matter of how much.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Perhaps ineos will hold Scotland to ransom by closing grangemouth

Ah the joys of unregulated capitalism and a corrupt government that every member of is always for sale, its just a matter of how much.

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Unfortunately it's difficult to find out exactly what involvement the Scottish Govt have with Ineos

Despite appeals to the information commisioner we only have a relatively heavily redacted briefing prior to Sturgeon's meeting with them and (as is standard for this government) no minutes.

https://beta.gov.scot/publications/foi-17-00969/

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13770794.Government_bid_to_keep_minutes_of_Sturgeon_s_meeting_with_pro_fracking_billionaire_secret/

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Unfortunately it's difficult to find out exactly what involvement the Scottish Govt have with Ineos

Despite appeals to the information commisioner we only have a relatively heavily redacted briefing prior to Sturgeon's meeting with them and (as is standard for this government) no minutes.

https://beta.gov.scot/publications/foi-17-00969/

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13770794.Government_bid_to_keep_minutes_of_Sturgeon_s_meeting_with_pro_fracking_billionaire_secret/"

It is not the Scottish Assembly that gave the green light to fracking, and when it boils down to it, the Scottish Assembly will eventually be overruled by the Tory government in Westminster if the courts do not do it for them. Just as Tories all over the country are overruling all objections to fracking. They all have their snouts in the trough!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should be taking oil companies to court.I read today that.

New York city has launched legal action against five major oil organizations: ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, and ConocoPhillips. Arguing that they played a key role in anthropogenic climate change, New York City is asking that they pay for the defensive measures the metropolis is having to put in place in order to stave off climate-associated damage.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Unfortunately it's difficult to find out exactly what involvement the Scottish Govt have with Ineos

Despite appeals to the information commisioner we only have a relatively heavily redacted briefing prior to Sturgeon's meeting with them and (as is standard for this government) no minutes.

https://beta.gov.scot/publications/foi-17-00969/

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13770794.Government_bid_to_keep_minutes_of_Sturgeon_s_meeting_with_pro_fracking_billionaire_secret/

It is not the Scottish Assembly that gave the green light to fracking, and when it boils down to it, the Scottish Assembly will eventually be overruled by the Tory government in Westminster if the courts do not do it for them. Just as Tories all over the country are overruling all objections to fracking. They all have their snouts in the trough!"

There's something not quite right with the Scottish govt's stance on this one though. Meetings with Ineos with no minutes and then a failure to actually ban fracking and instead having a moratorium that involves councils not being allowed to consider applications for shale gas developments.

In 2016 all SNP members abstained on a vote to ban fracking and although they eventually announced they would continue their 'moratorium' indefinitely the Energy minister refused requests from Labour and the Greens to actually ban it saying that there was no need to take up parliaments time passing a specific anti-fracking bill. Rather strange.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41722485

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We should be taking oil companies to court.I read today that.

New York city has launched legal action against five major oil organizations: ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, and ConocoPhillips. Arguing that they played a key role in anthropogenic climate change, New York City is asking that they pay for the defensive measures the metropolis is having to put in place in order to stave off climate-associated damage."

That is 3 of my Major Pensions right away

Still, New York City is not big enough to take on any single one of these Corporations never mind all 5 at once.

Good Luck NYC you will Loose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Agree

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"There's something not quite right with the Scottish govt's stance on this one though. Meetings with Ineos with no minutes and then a failure to actually ban fracking and instead having a moratorium that involves councils not being allowed to consider applications for shale gas developments.

In 2016 all SNP members abstained on a vote to ban fracking and although they eventually announced they would continue their 'moratorium' indefinitely the Energy minister refused requests from Labour and the Greens to actually ban it saying that there was no need to take up parliaments time passing a specific anti-fracking bill. Rather strange.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41722485"

That is politics. The SNP have a single goal of causing the political conditions to exist that will cause the Scottish people to demand withdrawal from the Union. If this can be achieved by abstaining from a vote in Westminster that results in environmental vandalism across England and Wales, and then voting in the Scottish Assembly (it is not a parliament because it is not sovereign) a blanket ban that will then be overruled either by English Judges or Westminster, then they will do it.

The shame is that the Tory leadership must know this and understand what is happening, but like the EU referendum they are willing to support damaging and divisive policies sacrificing the unity of the nation to stay in power.

Guess, the Tories have found a way to 'divide and rule' so get ready to see more of the same in every level of government.

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