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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() At least Clegg has plenty of spare time to collect his honour now he's unemployed since his constituents in Sheffield kicked him out of his MP's job in the general election. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hahahahahahaha! Yeah, It is the way he tells them with such a straight face. -Matt | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Clegg is a gutless snivelling weasely shit. Phil Green gpt a knighthood so he's joining a rogues gallery of appropriate company | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() ![]() You mean the working class, centre left constituency replaced Clegg with a left winger from labour, and directly or indirectly support a soft brexit as it were. ![]() | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() Says it all really... ![]() | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() ![]() How well did Garage "I'm not a career politician, who's been a politician for almost all my working life" and his UKIP chums "defend" the UK against the nasty Europeans? According to you we have been taken for a ride by them for decades? How did Farage "52:48 will be unfinished business" do in reducing EU waste? How much did "the Syrians are coming through Turkey" Farage do in enforcing immigration rules? Did he just squander the UKs influence so that we would get worse outcomes than would have been possible? Did he just create create failure wherever possible? Still too cowardly to investigate your cognitive bias Centaur? ![]() | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Define how he was gutless and weasly. Please contrast with his peers. How have they not been? | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I see you are still badgering and still being needy and desperate about wanting people to post on your thread. Honestly you come across like the needy kid in school who nobody wants to play with ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Really? I'd say it made you look evasive and cowardly. Again. I'm calling you out, and you're running...or are you feeling bullied? If it's the latter, I apologise. Delicate little flower ![]() | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Okay, tell you what, he gets paid for being a disruptive pillock - not even for suggesting opposing ideas and giving workable alternatives, and those who all vote for UKIP allegedly, as a collective, all wanted him to do so, I suggest they all get changed the bill for his pension. Let them fund the habits and retirement of an employee who actually did nothing certain, nothing of any guarantee to help people. Oh but that wouldn't take into account protest voters...maybe we should charge the party faithful? | |||
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"In all honesty it is a bit of an unfair comparison, Clegg whether one likes him or agreed with his politics was elected 3 times as an MP and also twice? as an MEP.. Farage failed to be elected to Westminster, was it 7 times? maybe a better comparison for Farage would be Screaming Lord Sutch..?" Screaming Lord Sutch actively campaigned for, Lowering the voting age from 21 to 18 24 hour licensing Abolition of dog licenses Legalising commercial radio Pet passports Abolishing the 11-plus exam Pedestrianising Carnaby Street. | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() If Glegg gets his honour it will go down as well as Geldof's . two pricks the nation cannot stand | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() You're right. Losers who do things for other people should be mocked ![]() | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() Despite not really liking Bob Geldof very much myself, I think he is generally pretty well liked. You may be many things, but "the voice of the people" you certainly aint. | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As the last person to deride little Cleggy couldn't provide any examples perhaps you could? What were enacted Tory policies and what were Liberal ones? What was the balance of power with respect to seats? What was happening in politics and economics at the time of the election? I cannot disagree with your opinion of the "non career politician" Farage ![]() | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ..and the context of this? It was wrong to have a discussion with the largest party? Who was more willing to have a discussion and under what terms? Do you know? The LibDems did a u-turn on one policy in coalition. Is the anger directed at them for this even vaguely proportional to the history of broken promises from both of the other parties when they actually had solid majorities? On the basis of this one policy and the country in the middle of a global financial crisis should they have not formed a government with the party which left a note saying there was no money left? Do you know that Labour would have agreed? What did the LibDems get in return with respect to major policies? Their failure was in not taking credit for raising the basic rate of tax, trying to get funding for mental health, pushing manufacturing and technology as much as finance, maintaining early years funding and primary school meals and trying to reform the electoral system that everyone is now complaining about. Finally bear in mind the mood of the country. When the LibDems did eventually get routed it was not in favour of Labour it was in favour of the Conservatives with their austerity policies. Don't be so quick to condemn with 20:20 retrospect. | |||
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"Farage nil Clegg one ![]() ![]() . No I can't stand Bob geldof either, in fact I've never met anybody who likes him. Must be the circles I run in ![]() | |||
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"I'm a bit perturbed that somebody kicked out democratically should be getting any type of honour!... Alas that seems how the honours go for celebrity has beens" So you are saying that only people in power or "popular" should receive honours? You support cronyism? | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It was from within his own party that the criticism comes upon their approach to gaining a coalition agreement. Whilst that coalition was dominated by the Cons, their policies were instilled upon the country as right and then enabled by the Libdems. If that coalition had not been established, it's feasible that there would not have been the opportunity for Cameron to have called the EU referendum, in the next parliament. The LDs were not totally silent against Con strategies but I think the tuition fees LD lies and support for the increases were immoral. The party also enabled other caustic measures, including the top down NHS reorganisation that Cameron promised not to have but initiated quickly once the coalition was formed. It seems that the potential sacrifice of his party was acceptable, in order to take some power, whilst knowing that LD policies would not be pursued. I blame Clegg for the reduction in their sitting MPs from 58 to 8 or so, at the next election. You are right that context is all but within that context, I think it's worse than a slightly disappointing way to both lead and to have caused so much damage to thousands - if not millions - of peoples' lives. | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You didn't actually address the context or the fact that the LibDem losses were to the Conservatives not Labour. Also, why is the LD surrender of one policy (in a coalition) worse than the scores of policy reversals by the other two main parties? Why are they held to a higher standard and punished for not attaining it? The implication is that the British people wanted more of what the Conservatives were selling. It's a democratic system so out fault not his. | |||
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"I'm a bit perturbed that somebody kicked out democratically should be getting any type of honour!... Alas that seems how the honours go for celebrity has beens So you are saying that only people in power or "popular" should receive honours? You support cronyism?" . Not particularly no. Clegg was neither a long term MP or done anything of merit though and was deselected by his own constitute.... He's actually a perfect example of cronyism, somebody with little success in his own rights but connected well enough for his grasp to be bigger than his reach ![]() | |||
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"I'm a bit perturbed that somebody kicked out democratically should be getting any type of honour!... Alas that seems how the honours go for celebrity has beens So you are saying that only people in power or "popular" should receive honours? You support cronyism?. Not particularly no. Clegg was neither a long term MP or done anything of merit though and was deselected by his own constitute.... He's actually a perfect example of cronyism, somebody with little success in his own rights but connected well enough for his grasp to be bigger than his reach ![]() An MEP from 1999 and an MP from 2005 to 2015. You might need to give me your definition of long term. If you just don't like him say so, but why make assertions without backing? | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Just to balance this out, what LD promises were delivered during that Parliament? | |||
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"I'm a bit perturbed that somebody kicked out democratically should be getting any type of honour!... Alas that seems how the honours go for celebrity has beens So you are saying that only people in power or "popular" should receive honours? You support cronyism?. Not particularly no. Clegg was neither a long term MP or done anything of merit though and was deselected by his own constitute.... He's actually a perfect example of cronyism, somebody with little success in his own rights but connected well enough for his grasp to be bigger than his reach ![]() . Ten years? I don't call that anything like longevity, he's a public servant and a failed one at that, I just don't think he has merit for an honour | |||
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"Like I said.... The typical case of cronyism" Same Ellen McArthur got a knighthood at 28. Just saying. | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Good point! Letting the bastard tories into no 10 and unleashing their bastadry onto the poor, disabled and vulnerable and being Cameron's little puppet overshadows anything he did, if anything good that is | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ...and the alternative in the midst of a global financial crisis was? Whatever you or I might think about the Tories, they were given a majority in the following election. | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Not quite, they managed to find a billion quid from the magic money tree after failing to get a majority, (after calamity clegg bombed) to buy another term in office. No money for welfare etc but hey, we the taxpayer have paid for them to stay in office.! | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The government that followed the Tory/Lib dem coalition was David Cameron's Tory government elected in 2015 with a majority. The Tories had that majority until 2017 when Theresa May called a snap general election. Tories won again in 2017 now with a working majority with the DUP. | |||
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"Farage.. Busy as an Mep.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It just shows how you can manipulate facts to your own advantage. You can spin as much as you like BUT the Tories had a majority government and lost seats at the election to form a MINORITY government. So how you can put a positive spin on the fact you have less than you started is somewhat foolish. | |||
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