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Davies agrees to make agreement on Irish border legally binding

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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man
over a year ago

Widnes

David Davies has just agreed to make sure that the agreement covering the Irish border (and i think the commitment to pay what we owe but awaiting further clarification) will be legally binding.

Seems like some things are decided before everything is decided.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"David Davies has just agreed to make sure that the agreement covering the Irish border (and i think the commitment to pay what we owe but awaiting further clarification) will be legally binding.

Seems like some things are decided before everything is decided."

I understand that this is a consequence of threats made by the EU last night and today. They were saying that the words coming out of the UK meant that the next phase of negotiations would be pre-empted by legally binding undertakings before any kind of discussions take place.

Looks like our buccaneering Brexit team shot themselves in both feet, twice. Top tip Mr Davis - don't be a dick, try to be a bit clever.... ahhhh.... oops.

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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man
over a year ago

Widnes

The only thing this lot seem capable of negotiating is negotiating the UK into an ever weaker negotiating position.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked. "

Wait... wait... are you suggesting they try and organise a piss up in a brewery....?

-Matt

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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man
over a year ago

Widnes


"They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked.

Wait... wait... are you suggesting they try and organise a piss up in a brewery....?

-Matt"

I think, looking at DD in particular, that might just be within their level of competencies.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked. "
Lol the best comment you have made I like it

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked.

Wait... wait... are you suggesting they try and organise a piss up in a brewery....?

-Matt

I think, looking at DD in particular, that might just be within their level of competencies."

Jean Claude D*unker would love it!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

A senior EU official says that the next few months of talks are 'Davis-proofed'.

What can one do but laugh, at this stage.

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By *nleashedCraken OP   Man
over a year ago

Widnes


"They should stop holding the negotiations in Brussels. As it's the Irish border which is the problem, they should hold it in the Guinness factory. Anyone who comes out sober, gets sacked.

Wait... wait... are you suggesting they try and organise a piss up in a brewery....?

-Matt

I think, looking at DD in particular, that might just be within their level of competencies.

Jean Claude D*unker would love it!"

Two d*unks don't make the fiasco any more sobering.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate."

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU? Since yesterday the EU has gone from saying it was a 'gentleman's agreement' to now saying we must make it legally binding before moving onto the next stage of the talks. Seems David Davis and the UK Brexit team knew it wasn't legally binding and the EU were the naive ones who thought,... oh its a gentleman's agreement, we've shaken hands on it so the UK will stick to it. No wonder the EU is in such a mess with these morons running it.

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By *ilent.KnightMan
over a year ago

Swindon


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU? Since yesterday the EU has gone from saying it was a 'gentleman's agreement' to now saying we must make it legally binding before moving onto the next stage of the talks. Seems David Davis and the UK Brexit team knew it wasn't legally binding and the EU were the naive ones who thought,... oh its a gentleman's agreement, we've shaken hands on it so the UK will stick to it. No wonder the EU is in such a mess with these morons running it. "
It’s depressing when we brits are reneging on gentleman agreements. At least this is the only time we will be negotiating something and so undermining our trustworthiness will be without consequence ...

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU? Since yesterday the EU has gone from saying it was a 'gentleman's agreement' to now saying we must make it legally binding before moving onto the next stage of the talks. Seems David Davis and the UK Brexit team knew it wasn't legally binding and the EU were the naive ones who thought,... oh its a gentleman's agreement, we've shaken hands on it so the UK will stick to it. No wonder the EU is in such a mess with these morons running it. "

So you are saying it's moronic to trust what David Davis says?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU? Since yesterday the EU has gone from saying it was a 'gentleman's agreement' to now saying we must make it legally binding before moving onto the next stage of the talks. Seems David Davis and the UK Brexit team knew it wasn't legally binding and the EU were the naive ones who thought,... oh its a gentleman's agreement, we've shaken hands on it so the UK will stick to it. No wonder the EU is in such a mess with these morons running it. It’s depressing when we brits are reneging on gentleman agreements. At least this is the only time we will be negotiating something and so undermining our trustworthiness will be without consequence ..."

No one is reneging on any agreement though and no one said they would go back on it. David Davis just made a statement that it wasn't legally binding. 'Gentleman's agreements' are the kind of thing you have with 2nd hand car dealers or some bloke down the market you shake hands on a deal with. It's ridiculous the EU could think something as big as a country the size of the UK leaving the EU could be left settled on a handshake and a 'gentleman's agreement'.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU? Since yesterday the EU has gone from saying it was a 'gentleman's agreement' to now saying we must make it legally binding before moving onto the next stage of the talks. Seems David Davis and the UK Brexit team knew it wasn't legally binding and the EU were the naive ones who thought,... oh its a gentleman's agreement, we've shaken hands on it so the UK will stick to it. No wonder the EU is in such a mess with these morons running it.

So you are saying it's moronic to trust what David Davis says? "

I'm saying the EU is moronic to not have the foresight to make it legally binding in the first place.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin

So Centaur your current position is that it wasnt legally binding until the EU unilaterally decided that it was?

Are you aware thats not how things work? One side cant just make something a legally binding agreement.

And youre missing a key moment in your timeline which happened before the EU "piped up" which was David Davis turning up to face the media with his tail between his legs to say that he'd been misquoted and that the agreement was "more than legally enforcable". What he could possibly mean by MORE than legally enforceable we can only speculate.

The EU has since moved to tighten up the wording on the proposal they vote on this week and have also decided to publicly censure David Davis for his screw up.

David Davis is inept and a moron, May has rightly sidelined him in negotiations because he achieved exactly nothing in his months of negotiating.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Great to have sovereignty back with cunts like Davis, May et al having no integrity.

Turkeys voted for Christmas

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Great to have sovereignty back with cunts like Davis, May et al having no integrity.

Turkeys voted for Christmas "

But at least some people are coming around now. I mean on here we finally have Centaur admitting that only a moron would trust Davis!

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Well its not that Davis has agreed to make it legally binding, it was legally binding and hes now been forced to admit it. The EU are now writing stronger language for the agreement so that theres no way for anyone to equivocate.

The agreement last Friday wasn't legally binding. It's only since David Davis said it wasn't legally binding on the BBC Andrew Marr show on Sunday that the EU have piped up. The EU in response to David Davis comments said yesterday, "We had a gentleman's agreement". Utterly laughable stuff from the EU that they think they can hold anyone to account with a 'gentleman's agreement". LOL. Just how naive are the EU?

Ray...if it's that easy why not make the same investment yourself? :-

So you are saying it's moronic to trust what David Davis says?

I'm saying the EU is moronic to not have the foresight to make it legally binding in the first place. "

Quite!

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