FabSwingers.com forum: Zimbabwe... it's not a coup... apparently

By *oncupiscentTony OP Man
over a year ago

Kent

But when the military take over the state broadcaster and tanks are on the roads into Harare it definitely walks like a duck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But when the military take over the state broadcaster and tanks are on the roads into Harare it definitely walks like a duck"

Poor mugabi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a nice change to see a bloodless coup.Looks like this army is in charge now.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated ..

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By *angwe1Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Unfortunately it looks like more of the same for Zims. The army has held power for a long time now, Grace forced their hand.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated .."

Depends on where it gets repatriated to.

Back to the country then fine. However more likely is from one "El Presidente" to another and the Chinese will carry on hoovering up the diamonds.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated ..

Depends on where it gets repatriated to.

Back to the country then fine. However more likely is from one "El Presidente" to another and the Chinese will carry on hoovering up the diamonds.

Sadly for the people of that country the probable outcome..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated ..

Depends on where it gets repatriated to.

Back to the country then fine. However more likely is from one "El Presidente" to another and the Chinese will carry on hoovering up the diamonds.

Sadly for the people of that country the probable outcome.."

Are there any competant politicians in the country who the army could instate?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated ..

Depends on where it gets repatriated to.

Back to the country then fine. However more likely is from one "El Presidente" to another and the Chinese will carry on hoovering up the diamonds.

Sadly for the people of that country the probable outcome..

Are there any competant politicians in the country who the army could instate?"

Am not that up to speed on that tbh, if it is a coup to keep out his wife then who knows how it will pan out..

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By *oncupiscentTony OP Man
over a year ago

Kent

The army will instate their own preferred crony, things aren't going to change for the average Zimbabwean anytime soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm still slightly bemused that nobody's mentioned the goings on Saudi on the forum to be honest!.

Anyhow, Zimbabwe...I don't hold much hope for anything good to come out of the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQWi4bahas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its on BBC Radio2 right now - Vine

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

So...the president is under house arrest, the national tv station has been taken over and members of the government are being arrested?

Still not a coup tho. Sounds like Comical Ali has come out of retirement.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

Looks like the army are supporting a guy nicknamed the crocodile who has been accused of war crimes - just fantastic.

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By *estless nativeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Its not a coup, theyre just very naughty boys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heard on the radio they discribed mugabes wife as ambitious ,thought that was fuckn cracker

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Unfortunately it looks like more of the same for Zims. The army has held power for a long time now, Grace forced their hand."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Torture that fucker mugabe and get the Swiss bank account details..

Economy sorted once his stolen wealth is repatriated ..

Depends on where it gets repatriated to.

Back to the country then fine. However more likely is from one "El Presidente" to another and the Chinese will carry on hoovering up the diamonds.

Sadly for the people of that country the probable outcome..

Are there any competant politicians in the country who the army could instate?"

If there are then you can guarantee the army won’t let them anywhere near the presidency!

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By *angwe1Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Mugabe and ZANU were given one of the best economies in southern Africa in 1980, but sadly it has been on a fast decline since then. Some of his policies did work, such as the education system, but even that's bu**ered now.

The writing was on the wall almost immediately he came to power, Tongogara killed and then the Fifth Brigade in Matebele land.

The opportunity to build an example of a modern,prosperous, fair society was squandered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mugabe and ZANU were given one of the best economies in southern Africa in 1980, but sadly it has been on a fast decline since then. Some of his policies did work, such as the education system, but even that's bu**ered now.

The writing was on the wall almost immediately he came to power, Tongogara killed and then the Fifth Brigade in Matebele land.

The opportunity to build an example of a modern,prosperous, fair society was squandered."

yeah, because the aparthaid years from 65 to 80 were just fucking dandy for black zimbabwians

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By *angwe1Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I'm not saying that it was. Is it any better now ? Or perhaps its worse ?

Mugabe had the opportunity to build upon what was given to him. He didnt.

Rhodesian society wasnt equal to all, but it wasnt Apartheid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not saying that it was. Is it any better now ? Or perhaps its worse ?

Mugabe had the opportunity to build upon what was given to him. He didnt.

Rhodesian society wasnt equal to all, but it wasnt Apartheid.

really? think again

anyhow ... here's some 70's music by the awesome afro-psychedelic revolutionaries 'Wells Fargo' ... and when they say a storms comming, they ain't wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2hS_w_v1-0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He wrecked a country which was one of the richer African nations and as usual power creates corruption. A leader can't be the best leader of a country for 40 years - and the thought that his wife was going to take over was just too much. I hope the country makes good use of this opportunity.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

The writing was on the wall almost immediately he came to power, Tongogara killed and then the Fifth Brigade in Matebele land.

The opportunity to build an example of a modern,prosperous, fair society was squandered.

yeah, because the aparthaid years from 65 to 80 were just fucking dandy for black zimbabwians "

In a documentary about Zimbabwe, Ian Smith was interviewed about 15 years ago at his home and I noticed just how ordinary it was compared to the palaces of Mugabe.

Rhodesia may have been morally corrupt, but it was never financially corrupt. Ian Smith should have embraced moderate black allies and enabled a transition rather than what actually happened. Mugabe has been a disaster for Zimbabwe and its people. There is not a single element of society that has improved in the Mugabe era and the country has gone from being an exporter of staple food to a country that cannot feed itself.

Rhodesia was not “bad” for black people - unless they were fighting the Smith regime. It was fundamentally unfair and morally wrong - no question about that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i just hope that the 127 year streak of tossers running the country comes to an end .... but then it will probably continue to be dickheads as usual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i just hope that the 127 year streak of tossers running the country comes to an end .... but then it will probably continue to be dickheads as usual"
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Given the choice, dickhead Rhodes would be voted in over Mugabe in a heartbeat by the average Zimbabwean!.

The real question is why there only ever given the choice between Rhodes or Mugabe or Mugabes wife or Hillary Clinton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists

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By *angwe1Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Perhaps it would have been best if the country had been governed by the best politicians, as voted by the people of Zims, regardless of colour or creed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What comes after colonialism is rarely palatable or good.The Africans had plenty of time to learn how colonial powers ran a country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What comes after colonialism is rarely palatable or good.The Africans had plenty of time to learn how colonial powers ran a country."
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Singapore?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists "
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That is evidently not true to the average Zimbabwean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's hard to see that anyone can be Worse than Mugabe ! A Racist Evil Crook in my Humble Oppinion

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By *estless nativeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Theres a conspiracy to oust the Zimbabwean leadership, and its being controlled from Yorkshire

Mugabe e ba gum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Theres a conspiracy to oust the Zimbabwean leadership, and its being controlled from Yorkshire

Mugabe e ba gum

And a confectior

Robert mugabe =

E ba gum trebor

Seriously though they should assassinate/shoot/ hang the twat. Otherwise he'll do that to them if he gets back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Theres a conspiracy to oust the Zimbabwean leadership, and its being controlled from Yorkshire

Mugabe e ba gum

And a confectior

Robert mugabe =

E ba gum trebor

Seriously though they should assassinate/shoot/ hang the twat. Otherwise he'll do that to them if he gets back "
Should be tried in The Hague !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Theres a conspiracy to oust the Zimbabwean leadership, and its being controlled from Yorkshire

Mugabe e ba gum

And a confectior

Robert mugabe =

E ba gum trebor

Seriously though they should assassinate/shoot/ hang the twat. Otherwise he'll do that to them if he gets back Should be tried in The Hague !"

That too, but they need to move quickly wbile they have the upper hand

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists "

Really?

Do you seriously believe that having millions starving over 3 to 4 decades because Mugabe decided to take the most productive land in Africa from the men who knew how to farm it because they were white and give it to black men who knew nothing about farming, was and is better for the people of Zimbabwe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like he's officially been ousted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sounds like he's officially been ousted"
let's all hope so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope they get someone who's decent and not going to be mugabe 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope they get someone who's decent and not going to be mugabe 2

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... Yeah

No let me be serious errr no!... That's not how Geo politics works and Africans are notoriously tribal and easily corrupted!

I'd recommend reading two books.

Dead aid by dambiso moyo

Confessions of an economic hitman by John Perkins.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

China will bankroll any new government.Theyll buy their first colony.Chinese farmers have already taken over some previously white owned farms.The run much infrastructure already.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I hope that the cheering crowds today will not be disappointed or persecuted, if he returns to power etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"China will bankroll any new government.Theyll buy their first colony.Chinese farmers have already taken over some previously white owned farms.The run much infrastructure already."
I didn't know that

So much for Mugabe giving the land back to the Native People

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists

Really?

Yes, better that than being financially bled dry and land stolen from outsiders, the colonial European powers done more damage to Africa than any African ruler

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Yes, better that than being financially bled dry and land stolen from outsiders, the colonial European powers done more damage to Africa than any African ruler"

Really?

I think you need to re read your African history.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists

Really?

Exactly. When nelson Mandela took office in south Africa he didn't force out the white population.

He declared all south africans equal And to work together regardledd of race.

Mugabe let bias influence his decidion at the expence of blsck and white Zimbabwean's welfare

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Judt to add, the white population of south Africa wete expecting a form of revenge when mandela took office.

But he didn't. He put the past nehind him and thats the mark of a great leader.

That's where mugabe faltered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mandela failed the south African.The African is still poor the white man rich.The ANC is looking at land redistribution the same thing Mugabe did by taking back their land

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mandela failed the south African.The African is still poor the white man rich.The ANC is looking at land redistribution the same thing Mugabe did by taking back their land

I didn't say 'successful', just his attitude was mint.

If mugabe was the same, who knows. He could have succeeded where mandela failed.

Incidentally, Germany is in political trouble. Perhaps mugabe can be president there!

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By *oncupiscentTony OP Man
over a year ago

Kent

"I hope that the cheering crowds today will not be disappointed or persecuted, if he returns to power etc"

It is still going to be Zanu PF in charge at the end of it, just a different faction than was in the ascendancy a few days ago.

I don’t think much will change for the average citizen. In another 20 years the fired minister the military is backing will be 95 and still clinging on to power much like Mugabe was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Better Mugabe ran the country than than European colonialists "

Is that why so many Zimbabweans live in England?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mandela failed the south African.The African is still poor the white man rich.The ANC is looking at land redistribution the same thing Mugabe did by taking back their land

Is this why Zimabweans swim across a river full of crocodiles? So they can be poor in South Africa instead of being rich farmers in Zimbabwe?

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

Read that as soup. My fave is tomato and basil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Read that as soup. My fave is tomato and basil. "

With a knob of butter in ...mmmmm

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Read that as soup. My fave is tomato and basil.

With a knob of butter in ...mmmmm

Can't beat a knob...

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Mandela failed the south African.The African is still poor the white man rich.The ANC is looking at land redistribution the same thing Mugabe did by taking back their land

There was social injustice in S Africa in the apartheid era but I can tell you from personal experience that ALL S Africans have never had it as good as they did in the 1980's and 1990's

I happened to be working at the time in the most heavily smuggled route of people in the world between Mozambique and S Africa. The world would never believe the exodus of native Africans into South Africa in the late 1970's and into the 80's. The money and the lifestyle for ALL Africans was in S Africa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The wealthiest 10% of the population own at least 90–95% of all wealth and assets.I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mandela failed the south African.The African is still poor the white man rich.The ANC is looking at land redistribution the same thing Mugabe did by taking back their land

There was social injustice in S Africa in the apartheid era but I can tell you from personal experience that ALL S Africans have never had it as good as they did in the 1980's and 1990's

That's because by God were British and by virtue nobody is as good as us..... Damn straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mugabe has just resigned!

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By *xplorer13Man
over a year ago

glenrothes

His mum said he is not s dictator, just a very naughty boy .,,.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha

Pasi ne chongwe. Pasi nio.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe Mr Mugabe should be exiled to South Africa where he can be surrounded by old friends. The ones who's farms he stole and the families of people hes totured and murdered. I'm sure they will take care of him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe Mr Mugabe should be exiled to South Africa where he can be surrounded by old friends. The ones who's farms he stole and the families of people hes totured and murdered. I'm sure they will take care of him."

Mugabe is implicated in the massacre of around 20,000 in matabeli land in tbe 80s, along with the new president. So, business as usual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem is you get rid of one tyrant, give him a salary for life, a $10m bonus and impunity! Just to top it all get an old guard to take over who wasn't quite as bad as the last one. Well that's progress - and it just proves " there is always someone who is in a worse situation than you"!

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