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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

I see Labour MP’s abstain on amendment 79 - which necessitates consent of the Governments of the devolved nations before the UK leaves the EU

And to think people think the UK is a family of nations hahahahahah

Labour are a fucking joke so in Wales Labour are in government and tonight the UK Labour party couldnt give a shit

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Also i see Scottish Labour branch MP's and Scottish Tory branch MP's voted against the wishes of Scotland

Deny it all you want but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and please none of this pish it was a UK vote i know this and two countries in the UK didnt vote to leave the EU you cant deny it

I smell shite seems alot of people are feart to give the Scottish voters a right to decide on if they agree to brexit whats to fear eh lol

Anyone like to tell me what the unionists branch office MP's have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I see Labour MP’s abstain on amendment 79 - which necessitates consent of the Governments of the devolved nations before the UK leaves the EU

And to think people think the UK is a family of nations hahahahahah

Labour are a fucking joke so in Wales Labour are in government and tonight the UK Labour party couldnt give a shit

"

The UK is a nation, England, Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are regions of a single nation and have no business making or holding a veto on foreign policy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see Labour MP’s abstain on amendment 79 - which necessitates consent of the Governments of the devolved nations before the UK leaves the EU

And to think people think the UK is a family of nations hahahahahah

Labour are a fucking joke so in Wales Labour are in government and tonight the UK Labour party couldnt give a shit

"

international gangster are bankers bankers bankers

Bankster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see Labour MP’s abstain on amendment 79 - which necessitates consent of the Governments of the devolved nations before the UK leaves the EU

And to think people think the UK is a family of nations hahahahahah

Labour are a fucking joke so in Wales Labour are in government and tonight the UK Labour party couldnt give a shit

The UK is a nation, England, Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are regions of a single nation and have no business making or holding a veto on foreign policy.

"

Bankers don't see borders the world and universes belongs to them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign. "

Is full of shit old out of tuch men debating while younger men die or go crazy after coming back from fake wars of aggression for what!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign. "

The sovereign is actually german!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also i see Scottish Labour branch MP's and Scottish Tory branch MP's voted against the wishes of Scotland

Deny it all you want but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and please none of this pish it was a UK vote i know this and two countries in the UK didnt vote to leave the EU you cant deny it

I smell shite seems alot of people are feart to give the Scottish voters a right to decide on if they agree to brexit whats to fear eh lol

Anyone like to tell me what the unionists branch office MP's have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017?"

its All rigged by the international

Bankers

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see Labour MP’s abstain on amendment 79 - which necessitates consent of the Governments of the devolved nations before the UK leaves the EU

And to think people think the UK is a family of nations hahahahahah

Labour are a fucking joke so in Wales Labour are in government and tonight the UK Labour party couldnt give a shit

The UK is a nation, England, Scotland Wales and N. Ireland are regions of a single nation and have no business making or holding a veto on foreign policy.

"

Its really sad that you think so low to call countries regions very sad

Oh well if you want to call the country you live in a region hats fine but where i live Scotland is a country and am damn well proud to call Scotland a country

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign. "

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

"

Get over it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

"

1 person gets 1 vote, everybody in the UK had the chance to vote in the brexit referendum and more people voted out than in, it really couldn't be fairer than that unless you think it's fair that the opinion of a few million Scots should outweigh tens of millions of the the rest of the UK?

And since Scotland had a referendum for independence in which the majority voted to remain in the UK then your your stuck with what the majority of ALL the UK. And to add to that it's not as if Scotland voted to remain 100% either so don't try and make out as if your views are representative of the whole of your region

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

1 person gets 1 vote, everybody in the UK had the chance to vote in the brexit referendum and more people voted out than in, it really couldn't be fairer than that unless you think it's fair that the opinion of a few million Scots should outweigh tens of millions of the the rest of the UK?

And since Scotland had a referendum for independence in which the majority voted to remain in the UK then your your stuck with what the majority of ALL the UK. And to add to that it's not as if Scotland voted to remain 100% either so don't try and make out as if your views are representative of the whole of your region"

Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU though you cant change that fact so whats to fear about giving the Scottish voters a right to decide on the final brexit deal ? And by not allowing Holyrood to give consent just shows you how much the UK is a dictatorship

Democracy is not an event Scotland has the right to hold another referendum you may not like it but hey thats democracy speaking

Funny how you think the 55% majority that voted to remain in the Uk should be respected yet 62% majority of Scotland voted to remain in the EU and you dont care about that

Funny wee world people live in where they think its ok to keep moving the goalposts everytime to stop democracy

Yes England voted to leave the EU i respect that and if that what England want i have no right to go against the wishes of the majority of England

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Is full of shit old out of tuch men debating while younger men die or go crazy after coming back from fake wars of aggression for what!!

"

Well we all voted for them, so who's fault is that?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign. "

And has been for hundreds of years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU "

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol "

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country. "

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol "

No, the EU isn't a country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol "

I respect Scotland's "right" to stay in the EU exactly as much as you respect the result of a fair and National referendum.......i.e not at all.

Great Britain voted out, Scotland is a (small) part of GB deal with it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

No, the EU isn't a country. "

Do you hear yourself honestly ? Lol

So you claiming the EU is not a country yet you claim the UK is a country lol

Wow just wow

So is the UK not a union in your eyes ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol "

Kinky, you keep banging on about this but it is totally irrelevant.

I only accept the UK majority to leave the EU.

The wording on the ballot paper was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

A vote in Scotland was the same as a vote in Wales, NI and England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

"

What about the scots who voted to leave. Are you quite happy to say fuck them and go against their wishes?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it.."

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

What about the scots who voted to leave. Are you quite happy to say fuck them and go against their wishes?"

Interesting so what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?

The 55% majority seem quite happy to ignore the 45% and told to move on and get on with it and suck it up

Sorry but why should 55% be respected but 62% is to be ignored eh ?

38% of Scottish voters voted to leave the EU that is not the majority

Moving the goalposts again i see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

What about the scots who voted to leave. Are you quite happy to say fuck them and go against their wishes?

Interesting so what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?

The 55% majority seem quite happy to ignore the 45% and told to move on and get on with it and suck it up

Sorry but why should 55% be respected but 62% is to be ignored eh ?

38% of Scottish voters voted to leave the EU that is not the majority

Moving the goalposts again i see"

So yes you are then

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

No, the EU isn't a country.

Do you hear yourself honestly ? Lol

So you claiming the EU is not a country yet you claim the UK is a country lol

Wow just wow

So is the UK not a union in your eyes ? "

you really struggle with the basics if you think the EU is a country.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

Kinky, you keep banging on about this but it is totally irrelevant.

I only accept the UK majority to leave the EU.

The wording on the ballot paper was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

A vote in Scotland was the same as a vote in Wales, NI and England.

"

Ok you go on about ballot papers can you tell me where in the Scottish referendum ballot papers was it YES ? NO ? or Extra powers ?

I only seen a yes or no on the 2014 ballot paper but hey unionists didnt seem to care about that eh why cause they got what they wanted

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

No, the EU isn't a country.

Do you hear yourself honestly ? Lol

So you claiming the EU is not a country yet you claim the UK is a country lol

Wow just wow

So is the UK not a union in your eyes ?

you really struggle with the basics if you think the EU is a country. "

Wow at what point did i say the EU is country ?

Your the one going about claiming the UK is country

So CLCC is the UK a union ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol "

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

What about the scots who voted to leave. Are you quite happy to say fuck them and go against their wishes?

Interesting so what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?

The 55% majority seem quite happy to ignore the 45% and told to move on and get on with it and suck it up

Sorry but why should 55% be respected but 62% is to be ignored eh ?

38% of Scottish voters voted to leave the EU that is not the majority

Moving the goalposts again i see

So yes you are then "

what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

"

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

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What about them? The once in a generation referendum that they lost... yeah fuck them

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

What about the scots who voted to leave. Are you quite happy to say fuck them and go against their wishes?

Interesting so what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?

The 55% majority seem quite happy to ignore the 45% and told to move on and get on with it and suck it up

Sorry but why should 55% be respected but 62% is to be ignored eh ?

38% of Scottish voters voted to leave the EU that is not the majority

Moving the goalposts again i see

So yes you are then

what about the 45% that voted to leave the UK in 2014 ?"

they accepted the result as did the remain side in the brexit referendum..

that is called democracy..

sometimes we don't like it but we accept it and either campaign to change things if another opportunity arises..

what the fuck about that is so hard to understand..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"What about them? The once in a generation referendum that they lost... yeah fuck them "

Oh my oh my

Do you know democracy is not an event ? You do know this right ?

Ah right so you are asking what about the 38% of leave voters in the EU referendum

Then quite happy to to turn round and say fuck the 45%

go figure eh

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ? "

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

"

No no am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

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over a year ago


"What about them? The once in a generation referendum that they lost... yeah fuck them

Oh my oh my

Do you know democracy is not an event ? You do know this right ?

Ah right so you are asking what about the 38% of leave voters in the EU referendum

Then quite happy to to turn round and say fuck the 45%

go figure eh "

Personally I don't give a monkeys whether we leave or stay in the Eu. I just wanted to post in the politics section as it's my favourite forum page. I'm good now so I'll leave it to all you serious types

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

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"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

No, the EU isn't a country.

Do you hear yourself honestly ? Lol

So you claiming the EU is not a country yet you claim the UK is a country lol

Wow just wow

So is the UK not a union in your eyes ?

you really struggle with the basics if you think the EU is a country.

Wow at what point did i say the EU is country ?

Your the one going about claiming the UK is country

So CLCC is the UK a union ? "

The UK is a country. 1 supreme court, 1 military, 1 supreme parliament, 1 PM, 1 head of state, 1 seat at the UN, WTO, EU etc.

The EU is made up of multiple countries, multiple parliaments, multiple seats at international bodies, multiple heads of state, multiple heads of government etc.

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over a year ago

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CLCC is the UK a union ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

No no am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ? "

you seem to be ignoring the fact that not all in Scotland voted to remain?

to be honest we both know that Sturgeon would like to have one but the numbers do not stack up at present, where it to be the case that you had one then that would be problematic if a yes vote given Spain's view at the moment..

ignoring the fundamental issue that you wont get a vote to leave until you are an independent country is a bit clutching at straws but crack on..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

No no am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

you seem to be ignoring the fact that not all in Scotland voted to remain?

to be honest we both know that Sturgeon would like to have one but the numbers do not stack up at present, where it to be the case that you had one then that would be problematic if a yes vote given Spain's view at the moment..

ignoring the fundamental issue that you wont get a vote to leave until you are an independent country is a bit clutching at straws but crack on..

"

am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

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over a year ago


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

Kinky, you keep banging on about this but it is totally irrelevant.

I only accept the UK majority to leave the EU.

The wording on the ballot paper was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

A vote in Scotland was the same as a vote in Wales, NI and England.

Ok you go on about ballot papers can you tell me where in the Scottish referendum ballot papers was it YES ? NO ? or Extra powers ?

I only seen a yes or no on the 2014 ballot paper but hey unionists didnt seem to care about that eh why cause they got what they wanted

"

I didn't vote in the Scottish referendum do wouldn't have a clue.

What was the wording on your EU referendum ballot paper?

And no dodging the question please!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

No no am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

you seem to be ignoring the fact that not all in Scotland voted to remain?

to be honest we both know that Sturgeon would like to have one but the numbers do not stack up at present, where it to be the case that you had one then that would be problematic if a yes vote given Spain's view at the moment..

ignoring the fundamental issue that you wont get a vote to leave until you are an independent country is a bit clutching at straws but crack on..

am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ? "

matters not what i think, it's not going to happen..

self determination i get that but banging your head against a brick wall on an irrelevant question will only hurt..

the wall?

enjoy the rest of the thread..

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

Kinky, you keep banging on about this but it is totally irrelevant.

I only accept the UK majority to leave the EU.

The wording on the ballot paper was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"

A vote in Scotland was the same as a vote in Wales, NI and England.

Ok you go on about ballot papers can you tell me where in the Scottish referendum ballot papers was it YES ? NO ? or Extra powers ?

I only seen a yes or no on the 2014 ballot paper but hey unionists didnt seem to care about that eh why cause they got what they wanted

I didn't vote in the Scottish referendum do wouldn't have a clue.

What was the wording on your EU referendum ballot paper?

And no dodging the question please!"

Your answer is as you as it was the UK vote

And Scotland is part of the UK and the majority of Scotland voters voted to remain in the EU correct ?

Also you cant really claim the UK voted to leave the EU not true only England and Wales voted to leave which i respect their wishes

shame some people cant respect Scotland wishes eh and cant even respect the mandate to allow Scotland to decide on the final brexit deal or independence

Seems some are shite feart to allow Scotland people to decide

It comes across like England and Wales fear going it alone and want to drag Scotland and N.Ireland with them lol

Like i said i have no problem with England and Wales leaving the EU thats what they voted for i have to respect that

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"OP, you seem to only want to accept democracy if it suits you?

i voted to remain as did many in Scotland and that is how it will be..

it was to be honest a piss poor referendum and lacked in detail but it did not say that the devolved Governments would have a veto or whatever it is your whining about..

get over it..

Ok so in your opinion in what way do you think i am not accepting democracy ?

Ah right i have just to get over it eh lol nope not gonna happen sorry but Scotland didnt vote to leave the EU and we the Scottish voters will get to decide if we agree to brexit or not what is to fear by allowing Scotland to decide eh ?

Is England feart to go it alone or something ? lol

Fact is until you gain independence you wont get to decide as its a collective issue UK wide which you well know..

Nor will individual constituencies who voted to remain etc..

you've answered my point about only wanting to accept democracy in the rest of your reply..

Do you accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

Westminster will have that say, again i don't like the way its being handled by the Tories and think it will probably be bad for the UK before it gets better..

but that's how it is..

No no am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

you seem to be ignoring the fact that not all in Scotland voted to remain?

to be honest we both know that Sturgeon would like to have one but the numbers do not stack up at present, where it to be the case that you had one then that would be problematic if a yes vote given Spain's view at the moment..

ignoring the fundamental issue that you wont get a vote to leave until you are an independent country is a bit clutching at straws but crack on..

am asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Thats democracy correct ? Or you willing to go against the Scottish voters wishes eh ?

matters not what i think, it's not going to happen..

self determination i get that but banging your head against a brick wall on an irrelevant question will only hurt..

the wall?

enjoy the rest of the thread.."

am only asking you in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

Why dont you think its not gonna happen ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC is the UK a union ? "

It's the United Kingdom

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"CLCC is the UK a union ?

It's the United Kingdom "

And the United Kingdom is a union correct ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC is the UK a union ?

It's the United Kingdom

And the United Kingdom is a union correct ?

"

Not really

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"CLCC is the UK a union ?

It's the United Kingdom

And the United Kingdom is a union correct ?

Not really"

Not really so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

So what is Scotland North Englandshire now ? Lol

You either are lying to yourself and you had some bad teachers in school that didnt know pretty easy stuff lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC is the UK a union ?

It's the United Kingdom

And the United Kingdom is a union correct ?

Not really

Not really so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

So what is Scotland North Englandshire now ? Lol

You either are lying to yourself and you had some bad teachers in school that didnt know pretty easy stuff lol "

Sorry Kinky, but you are the one struggling to comprehend how the world works, not me. Every single thread you post is your faux indignation and every single other poster telling you that you are wrong.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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Ok CLCC so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Ok CLCC so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

"

It's not about me recognising it, its about how the UK behaves and is recognised by the rest of the world, which sees us as 1 country.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"Ok CLCC so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

It's not about me recognising it, its about how the UK behaves and is recognised by the rest of the world, which sees us as 1 country. "

Ok in your opion do you think the UK is a union of 4 nations?

You do have an opinion right ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Ok CLCC so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

It's not about me recognising it, its about how the UK behaves and is recognised by the rest of the world, which sees us as 1 country.

Ok in your opion do you think the UK is a union of 4 nations?

You do have an opinion right ?

"

I think of the UK as 1 country.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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"Ok CLCC so your telling me you do not recognise the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

It's not about me recognising it, its about how the UK behaves and is recognised by the rest of the world, which sees us as 1 country.

Ok in your opion do you think the UK is a union of 4 nations?

You do have an opinion right ?

I think of the UK as 1 country."

Right so in your opinion you dont think the UK is a union of 4 nations ?

So when did Scotland become North Englandshire ?

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Maybe the below answers your question Kinky

The confusion of the terms seems to revolve around the term “country” and the political powers that are perceived based on that word. While the four countries that make up the UK are considered separate in the minds of locals, and in certain sporting events, their powers for local law and control are devolved from the UK. Think of the 50 states of the United States, while each state has their own set of laws, they all are still under the power of the federal government. In the case of the UK, it is somewhat similar, though certain responsibilities are also implied, like healthcare and education, that are delegated to three of the four countries. The responsibilities that are delegated differ from one country to the next. England is the only country in which the UK does not devolve any powers and instead it is legislated directly by the UK government. When it comes to international politics, it is the sovereign nation of the UK that is recognized and not any of the four constituent countries.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Maybe the below answers your question Kinky

The confusion of the terms seems to revolve around the term “country” and the political powers that are perceived based on that word. While the four countries that make up the UK are considered separate in the minds of locals, and in certain sporting events, their powers for local law and control are devolved from the UK. Think of the 50 states of the United States, while each state has their own set of laws, they all are still under the power of the federal government. In the case of the UK, it is somewhat similar, though certain responsibilities are also implied, like healthcare and education, that are delegated to three of the four countries. The responsibilities that are delegated differ from one country to the next. England is the only country in which the UK does not devolve any powers and instead it is legislated directly by the UK government. When it comes to international politics, it is the sovereign nation of the UK that is recognized and not any of the four constituent countries."

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"Maybe the below answers your question Kinky

The confusion of the terms seems to revolve around the term “country” and the political powers that are perceived based on that word. While the four countries that make up the UK are considered separate in the minds of locals, and in certain sporting events, their powers for local law and control are devolved from the UK. Think of the 50 states of the United States, while each state has their own set of laws, they all are still under the power of the federal government. In the case of the UK, it is somewhat similar, though certain responsibilities are also implied, like healthcare and education, that are delegated to three of the four countries. The responsibilities that are delegated differ from one country to the next. England is the only country in which the UK does not devolve any powers and instead it is legislated directly by the UK government. When it comes to international politics, it is the sovereign nation of the UK that is recognized and not any of the four constituent countries."

Does that include Ireland or perhaps just part of Ireland

oh, and perhaps Scotland for the moment

lol

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"Maybe the below answers your question Kinky

The confusion of the terms seems to revolve around the term “country” and the political powers that are perceived based on that word. While the four countries that make up the UK are considered separate in the minds of locals, and in certain sporting events, their powers for local law and control are devolved from the UK. Think of the 50 states of the United States, while each state has their own set of laws, they all are still under the power of the federal government. In the case of the UK, it is somewhat similar, though certain responsibilities are also implied, like healthcare and education, that are delegated to three of the four countries. The responsibilities that are delegated differ from one country to the next. England is the only country in which the UK does not devolve any powers and instead it is legislated directly by the UK government. When it comes to international politics, it is the sovereign nation of the UK that is recognized and not any of the four constituent countries.

Does that include Ireland or perhaps just part of Ireland

oh, and perhaps Scotland for the moment

lol"

Take a look for yourself......

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/01/the-difference-between-the-uk-england-and-great-britain/

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apologies if I have inadvertantly linked to a site I wasn't supposed to

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

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I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol"

I voted for her as much as you did.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign. "
Since when?

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

1 person gets 1 vote, everybody in the UK had the chance to vote in the brexit referendum and more people voted out than in, it really couldn't be fairer than that unless you think it's fair that the opinion of a few million Scots should outweigh tens of millions of the the rest of the UK?

And since Scotland had a referendum for independence in which the majority voted to remain in the UK then your your stuck with what the majority of ALL the UK. And to add to that it's not as if Scotland voted to remain 100% either so don't try and make out as if your views are representative of the whole of your region"

I'd give up if I were you, no matter how well opined your point is, they will just bang on... and on... and on about this.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did."

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

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over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

"

You clearly have no understanding of the act of UNION then (which a previously independent Scotland begged England for to save them from being bankrupt.

UNION means there is ONE government/decision making body for the whole.

It’s quite simple really....clear now?

(Oh and Scotland had a chance to leave that union a couple of years ago....and YOUR fellow countrymen chose NOT to!)

Suck it up and live with the decisions made by the people.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

"

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right? "

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

You clearly have no understanding of the act of UNION then (which a previously independent Scotland begged England for to save them from being bankrupt.

UNION means there is ONE government/decision making body for the whole.

It’s quite simple really....clear now?

(Oh and Scotland had a chance to leave that union a couple of years ago....and YOUR fellow countrymen chose NOT to!)

Suck it up and live with the decisions made by the people."

Wow so in your mind democracy is a one off event now ? So because Scotland had an independence referendum in 2014 we cant ever have one again ? Is that how your democracy works eh lol

Again in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

Ah right i have to suck it up thats how democracy works in your mind lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true "

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something? "

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

"

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?"

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

You clearly have no understanding of the act of UNION then (which a previously independent Scotland begged England for to save them from being bankrupt.

UNION means there is ONE government/decision making body for the whole.

It’s quite simple really....clear now?

(Oh and Scotland had a chance to leave that union a couple of years ago....and YOUR fellow countrymen chose NOT to!)

Suck it up and live with the decisions made by the people.

Wow so in your mind democracy is a one off event now ? So because Scotland had an independence referendum in 2014 we cant ever have one again ? Is that how your democracy works eh lol

Again in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

Ah right i have to suck it up thats how democracy works in your mind lol

"

The SNP said the referendum was “once in a generation” .... how long is a generation in Scotland?.... just asking.

That’s SCOTLANDS RULING PARTIES definition...not mine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s Scotland’s ruling party’s definition before the grammar police get on my case

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

You clearly have no understanding of the act of UNION then (which a previously independent Scotland begged England for to save them from being bankrupt.

UNION means there is ONE government/decision making body for the whole.

It’s quite simple really....clear now?

(Oh and Scotland had a chance to leave that union a couple of years ago....and YOUR fellow countrymen chose NOT to!)

Suck it up and live with the decisions made by the people.

Wow so in your mind democracy is a one off event now ? So because Scotland had an independence referendum in 2014 we cant ever have one again ? Is that how your democracy works eh lol

Again in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

Ah right i have to suck it up thats how democracy works in your mind lol

"

Yes the majority decision is the one we work to in a democracy

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

"

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Parliament is supreme and sovereign.

Ah right so its ok to go against the Scottish voters wishes then ? Some fucking UK where Westminster thinks its ok to trump the Scottish voters

Go on tell me when did the Scottish voters vote Tory or voted to leave the Eu ? You think because England voted that way that Scotland should bent over eh ? Thats not an equal partnership and breaches the act of the union

You clearly have no understanding of the act of UNION then (which a previously independent Scotland begged England for to save them from being bankrupt.

UNION means there is ONE government/decision making body for the whole.

It’s quite simple really....clear now?

(Oh and Scotland had a chance to leave that union a couple of years ago....and YOUR fellow countrymen chose NOT to!)

Suck it up and live with the decisions made by the people.

Wow so in your mind democracy is a one off event now ? So because Scotland had an independence referendum in 2014 we cant ever have one again ? Is that how your democracy works eh lol

Again in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

Ah right i have to suck it up thats how democracy works in your mind lol

The SNP said the referendum was “once in a generation” .... how long is a generation in Scotland?.... just asking.

That’s SCOTLANDS RULING PARTIES definition...not mine!"

Wow so you think democracy is a one off event then ?

in your opinion do you think Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? Try answering that eh

Who gets to decide when a generation is ? Is it the people ? As i think you will find the people of Scotland elected a party into government on their manifesto to have the right to hold a referendum when the final brexit deal is known which is a mandate correct ?

Strange little democracy you live in lol

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK. "

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol "

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

OP, do you think the UAE is 1 country, or 7 separate countries?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote. "

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

"

You said people say that, I said people dont say it.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

You said people say that, I said people dont say it. "

So people think its a fair and equal union ?

Which countries are in the UK union ?

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over a year ago

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"OP, do you think the UAE is 1 country, or 7 separate countries? "

????

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"OP, do you think the UAE is 1 country, or 7 separate countries?

????"

Cat got your tongue?

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over a year ago


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

You said people say that, I said people dont say it.

So people think its a fair and equal union ?

Which countries are in the UK union ? "

Yawn already pointed out to you in the link above

You come across as a very bitter nationalist who hates the english and would do anything to get Scotland to leave the Uk

And yes heard the one about how you have English family members and how much you love them

I smell bulls**t

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

You said people say that, I said people dont say it.

So people think its a fair and equal union ?

Which countries are in the UK union ?

Yawn already pointed out to you in the link above

You come across as a very bitter nationalist who hates the english and would do anything to get Scotland to leave the Uk

And yes heard the one about how you have English family members and how much you love them

I smell bulls**t"

Aye well your opinion if you think bullshit i dont care tbh

I know i have English family and love to bits and no this is not about England vs Scotland

This is about the right to self govern and getting the fuck away from corrupt Westminster and Tory rule

Also i believe that every country should be independent even England.

Just out of interest see anyone that defends the UK union would the be a British nationalist ?

Lol so its now classed as being bitter to believe the country you live and born in should be independent and for the people to elect a party they vote for government as tou all know fine well Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government but hey you all seem fine well for the Tories to cut the out of things and make the Scottish suffer but didnt vote for them lol

If England want to leave the EU i respect that shame on others cant respest the wishes of the Scottish people who dont want ro leave the EU and by giving us a referendum once the final deal is known

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over a year ago


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

You said people say that, I said people dont say it.

So people think its a fair and equal union ?

Which countries are in the UK union ?

Yawn already pointed out to you in the link above

You come across as a very bitter nationalist who hates the english and would do anything to get Scotland to leave the Uk

And yes heard the one about how you have English family members and how much you love them

I smell bulls**t

Aye well your opinion if you think bullshit i dont care tbh

I know i have English family and love to bits and no this is not about England vs Scotland

This is about the right to self govern and getting the fuck away from corrupt Westminster and Tory rule

Also i believe that every country should be independent even England.

Just out of interest see anyone that defends the UK union would the be a British nationalist ?

Lol so its now classed as being bitter to believe the country you live and born in should be independent and for the people to elect a party they vote for government as tou all know fine well Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government but hey you all seem fine well for the Tories to cut the out of things and make the Scottish suffer but didnt vote for them lol

If England want to leave the EU i respect that shame on others cant respest the wishes of the Scottish people who dont want ro leave the EU and by giving us a referendum once the final deal is known"

Just for clarity why do you want to leave the UK

And can I assume you wanted to leave before Brexit

And you wanted to leave when Labour where in power as well

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over a year ago

Generation.....? I would figure about 20 yrs or so?

Dunno if others would agree or not....but a generation every 3 years? Even the SNP wouldn’t be so ridiculous surely?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"OP, do you think the UAE is 1 country, or 7 separate countries?

????

Cat got your tongue? "

Still no answer OP? You think the United Kingdom isn't a country, is the United Arab Emirates? How about the United States?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" This is about the right to self govern"

The right to self govern disappears when a country joins the EU.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I see the PM thinks Scotland is already independent lol

Theresa May - '' The UK and Scotland must continue to work together to ensure businesses and consumers have the certainty they need as we leave the EU''

Not my words but coming from the PM herself

So Scotland in her eyes in not in the UK

Yeah and this is who you voted for to run the UK hahahahahahahaha what a fucking joke lol

I voted for her as much as you did.

Ok how about this that is who England voted for

No other country in the UK voted for the Tories other than England lol

You know there are 13 Tory MPs in Scottish Constituencies, right?

Yes i know but did you know the Scottish Tory branch office only have 13 Scottish mp's out of 59 which if you did you math is not the majority lol

Nice try though but the only country in the UK that voted to send a majority of Tory mp's was England sad but true

Westminster isn't divided by England, Scotland, Wales or NI. That's not how it works, this has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Why don't you take a night class in politics or something?

OK school time

GE 2017

Scotland - SNP mp's majority

England - Tory mp's majority

Wales - Labour mp's majority

N.Ireland - DUP mp' majority / Sinn Fein doesnt send any mps to Westminster

There for England were the only country in the UK that send a Tory majority well done eh lol

What difference does that make in Westminster? The government is made up from, and proped up by, MPs from every part of the UK?

What difference does it make well i pointed out to you that your PM said the UK and Scotland so she think Scotland is already independent and not part of the UK

And you said you didnt vote for you ok fair enough and then i pointed out ok England voted for the Tories the only country in the UK that voted Tory correct ?

Some union the UK is where one country votes trumps other countries in the UK that didnt vote for the Tories lol

and people say this is fair and equal union in the UK lmao!!!!

You are wrong, there are Tories in England, Wales and Scotland, and NI's DUP vote with the government for £1bn a vote.

It doesnt matter which countries the MPs come from, they vote along party lines, not country lines.

No one says the UK is a fair and equal union. It's not, London alone has a population that dwarfs that of Scotland. You just pretend that people say that so you can feign indignation.

Scotland isn't independent, its part of the UK.

Caught you out CLCC so now you think the UK is a union lol

Tell your PM tha then as she seems to think Scotland is not part of the UK her words not mine lol

Where did I use the word union? I didn't. That was you.

She is my PM, even though I didn't vote for her or her party, she is your PM too, no matter who you voted for, or even if you didn't vote.

ClCC this is your works '' No one says the UK is a fair and equal union''

Is she fuck my PM i have a FM of Scotland the PM can go fuck herself and her Tory party lol

You said people say that, I said people dont say it.

So people think its a fair and equal union ?

Which countries are in the UK union ?

Yawn already pointed out to you in the link above

You come across as a very bitter nationalist who hates the english and would do anything to get Scotland to leave the Uk

And yes heard the one about how you have English family members and how much you love them

I smell bulls**t

Aye well your opinion if you think bullshit i dont care tbh

I know i have English family and love to bits and no this is not about England vs Scotland

This is about the right to self govern and getting the fuck away from corrupt Westminster and Tory rule

Also i believe that every country should be independent even England.

Just out of interest see anyone that defends the UK union would the be a British nationalist ?

Lol so its now classed as being bitter to believe the country you live and born in should be independent and for the people to elect a party they vote for government as tou all know fine well Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government but hey you all seem fine well for the Tories to cut the out of things and make the Scottish suffer but didnt vote for them lol

If England want to leave the EU i respect that shame on others cant respest the wishes of the Scottish people who dont want ro leave the EU and by giving us a referendum once the final deal is known

Just for clarity why do you want to leave the UK

And can I assume you wanted to leave before Brexit

And you wanted to leave when Labour where in power as well "

Why do i want to leave the UK ? My answer is because its not an equal union and Scotland should have the right to self govern and that means have full control over everything we didnt vote the Tories so why should we suffer Tory cuts ?

Yes before the brexit mess happens yeah to get the fuck away

Yup like i said i have always believed in independence

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Generation.....? I would figure about 20 yrs or so?

Dunno if others would agree or not....but a generation every 3 years? Even the SNP wouldn’t be so ridiculous surely?"

Who gets to make that decision when a genration is ? Is the people that will decided when and if another referendum should take place ? Like i said i think you will find the people have elected a party in Scotland on a manifesto policy to have the right to hold a referendum on independence when the final brexit deal is known that is a mandate and Holyrood took a vote on a section 30 order and it passed given even more strength to that mandate you may not like it but thats deomcracy working right there accept it

Democracy is not an event its not a one off thing things change in life and people are allowed to changed their minds

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

"

Where do you get this notion that it's an equal partnership from? Its certainly not equal when it comes to spending per capita is it?

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over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

"

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!! "

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

"

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory."

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol "

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

ClCC you said this right ''No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory''

So what happens is Scotland wants independence is it right to hold a country in a union against its will ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"ClCC you said this right ''No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory''

So what happens is Scotland wants independence is it right to hold a country in a union against its will ? "

Scotland voted to remain. It's not being "held against it's will" so stop being melodramatic.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England. "

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"ClCC you said this right ''No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory''

So what happens is Scotland wants independence is it right to hold a country in a union against its will ?

Scotland voted to remain. It's not being "held against it's will" so stop being melodramatic. "

Readc what i put again

I asked you What happens if Scotland wants indpenedence at any time in the future are you saying its ok to hold a country in a union against its will ?

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over a year ago


"ClCC you said this right ''No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory''

So what happens is Scotland wants independence is it right to hold a country in a union against its will ?

Scotland voted to remain. It's not being "held against it's will" so stop being melodramatic.

Readc what i put again

I asked you What happens if Scotland wants indpenedence at any time in the future are you saying its ok to hold a country in a union against its will ? "

If Scotland hold another referendum and the leave vote wins Scotland would leave the UK

Isnt that obvious

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"ClCC you said this right ''No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory''

So what happens is Scotland wants independence is it right to hold a country in a union against its will ?

Scotland voted to remain. It's not being "held against it's will" so stop being melodramatic.

Readc what i put again

I asked you What happens if Scotland wants indpenedence at any time in the future are you saying its ok to hold a country in a union against its will ?

If Scotland hold another referendum and the leave vote wins Scotland would leave the UK

Isnt that obvious "

If ?

Do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

I dont understand why so many people are fearing allowing the Scottish people to decide if we agree to brexit or not agree to brexit considering Scotland didnt vote for brexit but hey we have to just shut up and accept England and Wales dragging Scotland and N.Ireland out of the EU against its will.

Like i said i have no problem with England and Wales leaving the EU thats what the majority in England and Wales voted for i have to respect the wishes but at the same time i think its only right to respect the Scottish voters wishes to remain in the EU and single market and by allowing a referendum on independence it gives the Scottish people a chance to see if we agree on brexit or want independence its not much to ask if you gonna defend the UK union and tell people its a family of nations and equal partnership time to prove it and allow the Scottish people to decide their own futrue.

Yes before i get the whole you did in 2014 yes thats true Scotland voted no to independence thats has been respected Scotland is not independent as we speak but things have changed and people are allowed to change their minds thats how democracy works its not an event you may like to think it is but its really not

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over a year ago


"If Scotland hold another referendum and the leave vote wins Scotland would leave the UK

Isnt that obvious "

Obvious to most of us but don't bank on the OP seeing the obvious!

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over a year ago


"Do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ? "

What about the people in Scotland who voted Leave in the EU referendum? What about their democratic rights? You bang on about people being held against their will yet seem happy to do that to the Leave voters.

Instead of another referendum just split Scotland 35/65 to reflect the EU vote or 60/40 to reflect the Independence vote.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Do you think Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known ?

What about the people in Scotland who voted Leave in the EU referendum? What about their democratic rights? You bang on about people being held against their will yet seem happy to do that to the Leave voters.

Instead of another referendum just split Scotland 35/65 to reflect the EU vote or 60/40 to reflect the Independence vote."

What about the 45% of Scottish people that want to leave the UK ? See i can do that too lol

It goes with the majority does it not ? And the majority in Scotland voted to remain in the EU

Anyway with an independence referendum when the final brexit deal is known they will be able to vote no independence no one is stopping them but the mandate it there sadly for you

The UK government should have thought about all this before the EU referendum but no they rushed it not my problem Scotland has a way out of the brexit mess if it chooses to leave the UK brexit cant say the UK was not well warned about what could happen if Scotland voted by a majority to remain in the EU lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"If Scotland hold another referendum and the leave vote wins Scotland would leave the UK

Isnt that obvious

Obvious to most of us but don't bank on the OP seeing the obvious!"

The OP is ridiculous, every single poster on this forum is well aware of that.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money "

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is. "

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

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over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol "

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK"

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

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"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent "

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance"

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol "

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol "

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least."

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above. "

Bullshit answer lol

Yu claim Scotland get more money spent on it than England correct ? Then why keep Scotland in the union then ? Surely its smart to let Scotland go and save money like i said the Tories well known to cut the shit out of everything to save money but seem hell bent to keep Scotland when there is people saying Scotland get more money spend than England come on to fuck its not hard to work out Westminster know they need Scotland's money

Tell me this who do you think is doing better SNP or the Tories at running a government ?

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over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above.

Bullshit answer lol

Yu claim Scotland get more money spent on it than England correct ? Then why keep Scotland in the union then ? Surely its smart to let Scotland go and save money like i said the Tories well known to cut the shit out of everything to save money but seem hell bent to keep Scotland when there is people saying Scotland get more money spend than England come on to fuck its not hard to work out Westminster know they need Scotland's money

Tell me this who do you think is doing better SNP or the Tories at running a government ? "

It's a bullshit answer is it? Right, give us some example of countries from around the world where governments have granted independence to poor parts of their country, and tell us which part of Scotland would be carved off for being too poor in an independent country.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/"

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

oh dear.... kinky is again coming out with something i am guessing they have no ideal over... and gives them time to spout the "red tory" line...

the reason why labour abstained on the motion is that the UK supreme court had already ruled that the devolved adminstrations do NOT have power soverign over parliament....

what the snp amendment would have meant in effect was power of veto over parliament...

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above.

Bullshit answer lol

Yu claim Scotland get more money spent on it than England correct ? Then why keep Scotland in the union then ? Surely its smart to let Scotland go and save money like i said the Tories well known to cut the shit out of everything to save money but seem hell bent to keep Scotland when there is people saying Scotland get more money spend than England come on to fuck its not hard to work out Westminster know they need Scotland's money

Tell me this who do you think is doing better SNP or the Tories at running a government ?

It's a bullshit answer is it? Right, give us some example of countries from around the world where governments have granted independence to poor parts of their country, and tell us which part of Scotland would be carved off for being too poor in an independent country. "

Wow you trying to claim Scotland is a porr country now ? Jesus sinking lower and lower lol

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

Also who do you believe is doing better to run a government the SNP or the Tories ? I know yur gonna have a hard time admitting its the SNP wouldnt want to be seen praising the SNP would you lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above.

Bullshit answer lol

Yu claim Scotland get more money spent on it than England correct ? Then why keep Scotland in the union then ? Surely its smart to let Scotland go and save money like i said the Tories well known to cut the shit out of everything to save money but seem hell bent to keep Scotland when there is people saying Scotland get more money spend than England come on to fuck its not hard to work out Westminster know they need Scotland's money

Tell me this who do you think is doing better SNP or the Tories at running a government ?

It's a bullshit answer is it? Right, give us some example of countries from around the world where governments have granted independence to poor parts of their country, and tell us which part of Scotland would be carved off for being too poor in an independent country.

Wow you trying to claim Scotland is a porr country now ? Jesus sinking lower and lower lol

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

Also who do you believe is doing better to run a government the SNP or the Tories ? I know yur gonna have a hard time admitting its the SNP wouldnt want to be seen praising the SNP would you lol "

Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

Because governments are there to maintain territorial integrity. You've been told that, you have even quoted it above.

Bullshit answer lol

Yu claim Scotland get more money spent on it than England correct ? Then why keep Scotland in the union then ? Surely its smart to let Scotland go and save money like i said the Tories well known to cut the shit out of everything to save money but seem hell bent to keep Scotland when there is people saying Scotland get more money spend than England come on to fuck its not hard to work out Westminster know they need Scotland's money

Tell me this who do you think is doing better SNP or the Tories at running a government ?

It's a bullshit answer is it? Right, give us some example of countries from around the world where governments have granted independence to poor parts of their country, and tell us which part of Scotland would be carved off for being too poor in an independent country.

Wow you trying to claim Scotland is a porr country now ? Jesus sinking lower and lower lol

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

Also who do you believe is doing better to run a government the SNP or the Tories ? I know yur gonna have a hard time admitting its the SNP wouldnt want to be seen praising the SNP would you lol

Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries "

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

"

a) yes scotland gets on average more money per head spent on it than England does.... its called the barnett formula

b) you go about it like a child, because even within scotland some parts of scotland will have more spent on it than others.... and that would be decided by the snp administration in holyrood (so for example if you think the same amount of money per head if spent lets say in edinburgh as is spent in the western isles, then you really have no idea of how government works!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

a) yes scotland gets on average more money per head spent on it than England does.... its called the barnett formula

b) you go about it like a child, because even within scotland some parts of scotland will have more spent on it than others.... and that would be decided by the snp administration in holyrood (so for example if you think the same amount of money per head if spent lets say in edinburgh as is spent in the western isles, then you really have no idea of how government works!

"

Then you know what to do go back English independence if you see a problem with Scotland getting more to spend on it than England Lol

Stop moaning and do something about it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

"

So you don't read newspapers then !!! are you saying she did not say what is written in the paper and most of the other papers as well.

Tell me where do you get your news from !!!!!!

Ok how about this article then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


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Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ? "

No, let's not agree to disagree. If you believe that countries throw one part of their country out of the country for being poor, then give us some examples.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


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Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, let's not agree to disagree. If you believe that countries throw one part of their country out of the country for being poor, then give us some examples."

Lets agree to disagree

who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

So you don't read newspapers then !!! are you saying she did not say what is written in the paper and most of the other papers as well.

Tell me where do you get your news from !!!!!!

Ok how about this article then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/"

No i dont read newspaper do you not get they would put anything into their papers to sell

the main goal of a newspaper is to sell their newspaper to get money they would put anything in their to sell it

Lol thats for me to know hint going look the world wide web its your friend lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


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Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, let's not agree to disagree. If you believe that countries throw one part of their country out of the country for being poor, then give us some examples.

Lets agree to disagree

who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ? "

No, lets not. You can't name one single example? Not one? Maybe try a example closer to home. If Scotland were to become independent, which part of Scotland would be thrown out for being too poor?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, let's not agree to disagree. If you believe that countries throw one part of their country out of the country for being poor, then give us some examples.

Lets agree to disagree

who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, lets not. You can't name one single example? Not one? Maybe try a example closer to home. If Scotland were to become independent, which part of Scotland would be thrown out for being too poor?"

Again lets agree to disagree i know your not going to agree with me what point

Now So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

Give us an example of this then. Alaska gets more money spent on it than New York, yet I haven't seen a President say they should get rid of Alaska. Want to know why? Because the nation state is designed to protect territorial integrity. This is seen all over the world. You know its true. It is proven by the fact that countries aren't continuously fracturing into smaller and smaller countries

Ok CLCC we will agree to disagree on that

So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, let's not agree to disagree. If you believe that countries throw one part of their country out of the country for being poor, then give us some examples.

Lets agree to disagree

who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ?

No, lets not. You can't name one single example? Not one? Maybe try a example closer to home. If Scotland were to become independent, which part of Scotland would be thrown out for being too poor?

Again lets agree to disagree i know your not going to agree with me what point

Now So who do you believe is doing better at running a government SNP or The Tories ? "

So you point is SOOOO bullshit, that not only can you not give a single example from all of human history, you can't even give a hypothetical example! Are you going to admit that you are talking bollocks by saying that poor bits of countries get thrown out of countries?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

a) yes scotland gets on average more money per head spent on it than England does.... its called the barnett formula

b) you go about it like a child, because even within scotland some parts of scotland will have more spent on it than others.... and that would be decided by the snp administration in holyrood (so for example if you think the same amount of money per head if spent lets say in edinburgh as is spent in the western isles, then you really have no idea of how government works!

Then you know what to do go back English independence if you see a problem with Scotland getting more to spend on it than England Lol

Stop moaning and do something about it lol

"

i actually don't have any issues at all with some places having more spent on it than others.... if it helps the greater cause, which i believe it does then cool....

the issue i have is that you turn every topic into a divisive notion, and the when you run out of "wings of scotland" talking points... you ramble and bait and switch!

don't hate and never have hated the scots at all and don't begrudge you having a more local administration, but then you also have to have local accountability (which is the bit you always seem to forget)

westminster isn't the boogie man if westminster isn't making the ultimate decisions at local level...

scottish labour and the scottish tories aren't the boogie people if they aren't the ones who make the decisons at local level!

i don't hate the scots at all, ithink as a country we are miles better off together.... but your drive for independence makes you seem so bitterand clouded and so anti english.... maybe you should actually step back some times and take a moment to actually read what you type....

please do!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

Come on you were the one claiming Scotland get more money spend on it than England would it not be smart to let Scotland go and save money ?

a) yes scotland gets on average more money per head spent on it than England does.... its called the barnett formula

b) you go about it like a child, because even within scotland some parts of scotland will have more spent on it than others.... and that would be decided by the snp administration in holyrood (so for example if you think the same amount of money per head if spent lets say in edinburgh as is spent in the western isles, then you really have no idea of how government works!

Then you know what to do go back English independence if you see a problem with Scotland getting more to spend on it than England Lol

Stop moaning and do something about it lol

i actually don't have any issues at all with some places having more spent on it than others.... if it helps the greater cause, which i believe it does then cool....

the issue i have is that you turn every topic into a divisive notion, and the when you run out of "wings of scotland" talking points... you ramble and bait and switch!

don't hate and never have hated the scots at all and don't begrudge you having a more local administration, but then you also have to have local accountability (which is the bit you always seem to forget)

westminster isn't the boogie man if westminster isn't making the ultimate decisions at local level...

scottish labour and the scottish tories aren't the boogie people if they aren't the ones who make the decisons at local level!

i don't hate the scots at all, ithink as a country we are miles better off together.... but your drive for independence makes you seem so bitterand clouded and so anti english.... maybe you should actually step back some times and take a moment to actually read what you type....

please do!!! "

Another one saying am anti English

Ok by that logic then you claiming i hate my English family ?

Please get it right am not anti English am anti Westminster i want fuck all to do with Westminster i want our Scottish MPs to come home

The UK is not a country is a union of 4 countries lol

Britian is an island its not that hard to work out lol

Wrong Fabio i think you should go look at North Lanarkshire council and Aberdeen council the Tories and Labour share a coaliton at local level lol Red and blue Tories still working together i would love to see you try and deny that lol

And last i checked councils are in charge of hiring and firing teachers yet Labour and Tory coalition are blaming the Scottish government

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick that we cant work out that they are doing lol Ah well at least they are no where near in government in Scotland thank fuck for that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Scotland voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU, that is democracy, Holyrood having a veto over the will of tens of millions of people who do not get to vote on who sits in it is not democratic. If everyone in Scotland voted remain we would be staying in the EU so stop saying Scotland voted out because it didn't. Were do you want to draw the line? Counties,cities,towns,villages streets or households? All over the UK people voted differently but as a whole, 1 country it was a resounding LEAVE!

Oh and at least the UK (for now) wants Scotland in it which is more than can be said for the EU

Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK thats has been respected and Scotland also voted to remain in the EU you cant hide that fact no matter how much you try lol

Lets try this one

I respect England's majority vote to leave the EU

Do you respect Scotland's majority to remain in the EU ?

The UK is not a country its a union of 4 countries by that logic you would be saying the EU is one country and not made up of 27 independent countries wow i fear for people that dont know this shit lol

It's not though, the UK is 1 country.

Ah right so CLCC by your logic is the EU one country ? Lmao

Also CLCC are you saying the UK is not a union ? lol

No, the EU isn't a country.

Do you hear yourself honestly ? Lol

So you claiming the EU is not a country yet you claim the UK is a country lol

Wow just wow

So is the UK not a union in your eyes ? "

Honestly, you really need to go back to school, you're embarrassing yourself.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Britian is an island its not that hard to work out lol

Wrong Fabio i think you should go look at North Lanarkshire council and Aberdeen council the Tories and Labour share a coaliton at local level lol Red and blue Tories still working together i would love to see you try and deny that lol

And last i checked councils are in charge of hiring and firing teachers yet Labour and Tory coalition are blaming the Scottish government

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick that we cant work out that they are doing lol Ah well at least they are no where near in government in Scotland thank fuck for that lol"

so okay.... so you think labour and tories working together are wrong...

so you picked two local adminstrations in scotland where that happens... so, just for the sake of a look at the grander scheme of things... lets have a little look at some of the other 30 authorities shall we?

so is it bad when labour works with the conservatives.... but its okay when labour work with the snp???

that happens in dumfries and galloway, and east renfrewshire,

and edinburgh city council.... and fife council

and south ayrshire, and stirling

and guess what.... they have to make same local decisions as the two you mention!!!!

so please.... again... stop being hypocritical!!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


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Britian is an island its not that hard to work out lol

Wrong Fabio i think you should go look at North Lanarkshire council and Aberdeen council the Tories and Labour share a coaliton at local level lol Red and blue Tories still working together i would love to see you try and deny that lol

And last i checked councils are in charge of hiring and firing teachers yet Labour and Tory coalition are blaming the Scottish government

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick that we cant work out that they are doing lol Ah well at least they are no where near in government in Scotland thank fuck for that lol

so okay.... so you think labour and tories working together are wrong...

so you picked two local adminstrations in scotland where that happens... so, just for the sake of a look at the grander scheme of things... lets have a little look at some of the other 30 authorities shall we?

so is it bad when labour works with the conservatives.... but its okay when labour work with the snp???

that happens in dumfries and galloway, and east renfrewshire,

and edinburgh city council.... and fife council

and south ayrshire, and stirling

and guess what.... they have to make same local decisions as the two you mention!!!!

so please.... again... stop being hypocritical!!!!

"

Good to see you finally see that Labour and the Tories are working together and they make the decisons at local level i thought Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tories branch arent the ones that make decisions at local level your words not mine lol

I dont have a problem with Labour working with the SNP if they would gorw some damn baws and actually stand up to the Tories but no no Labour do what they do best and abstain allowing Tory cuts to happens

Labour branch office in Scotland are being punished big time for joining up with the Tories in Better Together

Now if they were to actually stand up and fight against the Tories and own up to the mess they left Scotland in then yeah i wont have a problem with Labour but unitl then those red Tories can fuck off lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

So you don't read newspapers then !!! are you saying she did not say what is written in the paper and most of the other papers as well.

Tell me where do you get your news from !!!!!!

Ok how about this article then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

No i dont read newspaper do you not get they would put anything into their papers to sell

the main goal of a newspaper is to sell their newspaper to get money they would put anything in their to sell it

Lol thats for me to know hint going look the world wide web its your friend lol "

Ha ha yea ok no one bullshits on the web do they

So she didnt make the statements then

What about the 2nd article you dismissing that as well

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

So you don't read newspapers then !!! are you saying she did not say what is written in the paper and most of the other papers as well.

Tell me where do you get your news from !!!!!!

Ok how about this article then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

No i dont read newspaper do you not get they would put anything into their papers to sell

the main goal of a newspaper is to sell their newspaper to get money they would put anything in their to sell it

Lol thats for me to know hint going look the world wide web its your friend lol

Ha ha yea ok no one bullshits on the web do they

So she didnt make the statements then

What about the 2nd article you dismissing that as well"

To be honest i dont read one bit of your pish paper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick "

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Britian is an island its not that hard to work out lol

Wrong Fabio i think you should go look at North Lanarkshire council and Aberdeen council the Tories and Labour share a coaliton at local level lol Red and blue Tories still working together i would love to see you try and deny that lol

And last i checked councils are in charge of hiring and firing teachers yet Labour and Tory coalition are blaming the Scottish government

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick that we cant work out that they are doing lol Ah well at least they are no where near in government in Scotland thank fuck for that lol

so okay.... so you think labour and tories working together are wrong...

so you picked two local adminstrations in scotland where that happens... so, just for the sake of a look at the grander scheme of things... lets have a little look at some of the other 30 authorities shall we?

so is it bad when labour works with the conservatives.... but its okay when labour work with the snp???

that happens in dumfries and galloway, and east renfrewshire,

and edinburgh city council.... and fife council

and south ayrshire, and stirling

and guess what.... they have to make same local decisions as the two you mention!!!!

so please.... again... stop being hypocritical!!!!

Good to see you finally see that Labour and the Tories are working together and they make the decisons at local level i thought Scottish Labour branch and Scottish Tories branch arent the ones that make decisions at local level your words not mine lol

I dont have a problem with Labour working with the SNP if they would gorw some damn baws and actually stand up to the Tories but no no Labour do what they do best and abstain allowing Tory cuts to happens

Labour branch office in Scotland are being punished big time for joining up with the Tories in Better Together

Now if they were to actually stand up and fight against the Tories and own up to the mess they left Scotland in then yeah i wont have a problem with Labour but unitl then those red Tories can fuck off lol "

so lets keep going to see how much of hypocrite you truely are....

up until june.....

in the scottish borders the SNP worked in coalition with the lib dems.... and in east ayrshire.... the SNP ran the council in coalition with the Tories....

again..... good??? bad?????

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then "

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For all those that defend the UK and dont wanna see Scotland leave the UK

Do you think believe honestly Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

Give me examples of the way you think Scotland is being treated as an equal partner in the UK union ?

You are correct ! It's an un equal partnership in Scotlands Favour !!!

Wake up

If you think its in Scotland's favour then why oh why is Westminster hell bent on keeping Scotland in the UK ? Considing there is a Tory government in charge and they seem happy to cut the shit out of everything why not save money and cut Scotland loose and end the UK union ?

Think it about it.

No Government of any country wants to lose territory. The raison d'etre of the nation state is to hold territory.

Lol so some people believe Scottish people are leeches and its stacked in our favour

Yet the Tories are happy to cut the shit out of everything but wait a min they are happy to keep Scotland in the UK when people are complaining we are get it better and all this so called money goes to us

Your having a laugh.

The Tories know they need Scotland money thats why Westminster is hell bent to keep Scotland in the UK no doubt about it.

If it really does favour Scotland being in the UK then why not cut Scotland loose and save money eh oh wait again Westminster know they need Scotland and our money

Lol

The government spends more money on scotland than it does England.

Right if that were ture then why is Westminster hell bend on kepping Scotland in the UK ? It doesnt add up when you have a Tory government happy to cut the shit out of everything claiming they want to save money yet your claiming more money gets spend on Scotland than England then why not let Scotland go then and save money ?

None of you can answer why Westminster is hell bent on keeping Scotland when you claim more money is getting spend on Scotland if that were true why then keep Scotland you would think let Scotland go and save a ton of money

You all know it that Westminster need Scotland and our money

Yes, Tories like to cut services, they also want the UK to remain the same size as it currently is.

Why would Westminster want to keep Scotland when you claim Scotland get more money spent than England ? Like i said it dont add up when you have a Tory government happy and willing to cut the shit out of everything to save money. Say your right about Scotland gettin more money spend than England surely to god you would think gee whats a way of saving a ton of money oh i know let Scotland go and we can save a shit ton of money lol

So what if it was Labour in Power, would that make any difference to you wanting to leave and break up the UK

Nope how many more times i believe every country even England should be independent

So in about 4 or 5 years you will get your referendum, then IF Scotland again vote to stay in will you then abide by that vote or will you still cry for independance

Says who ? Who is saying in 4 or 5 years Scotland will get a referendum ? You dont quite get it Scotland has a mandate to have an independence referednum when the final brexit deal is known

You dont have a clue how demorcracy works eh lol

Lets just say Scotland has an independence referendum and the vote is no again right and then lets say in the 2021 Scottish elections a party puts forward to have a independence referendum within the 5 years and people elect that party then thats mandate from the people to deliver on that policy get it yet ? lol

Things change and people are allowed to change their minds

You wont get me to stop beliving in independence maybe just maybe if the unionist branch offices put forward a manifesto policy not to have an independence referendum and they get elected by the people they have a mandate and no referendum will take place

I think people need to get a better understand of how true democracy and not made up bullshit and moving the goalposts every time lol

Actually it was Nicola that said possibly then next 4 years,and some Scottish ministers are saying sometime after the next general election.

Perssonally I would be sad to see Scotland go, and everything I have read regarding whether Scotland could go it alone is not very encouraging to say the least.

No no try and get it right Nicola has said the mandate is there cast iron mandate from the Scottish people and Holyrood to have a referendum when the final brexit deal is known.

Dont give me that pish about holding off till the next Scottish election or next UK election stop trying to move the goalposts and accept Scotland has a mandate to have a independence referendum when the brexit deal is known if i didnt know any better i smell shite with some people on here fear of allowing the Scottish people to decide if they agree to brexit or not considering the Scottish majority didnt vote for brexit lol

Out of interest where you been reading that Scotland couldnt go it alone ? I suppose you think every othjer country can be independent just not Scotland too wee and poor to be independent yet problem is there is far more smaller countries than Scotland and they seem to be ok and they are independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

Knew it a newspaper lol. So you telling me you believe everything a newspaper tell you ? Wow just wow

So you don't read newspapers then !!! are you saying she did not say what is written in the paper and most of the other papers as well.

Tell me where do you get your news from !!!!!!

Ok how about this article then

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/14/five-charts-show-economically-risky-scottish-independence-would/

No i dont read newspaper do you not get they would put anything into their papers to sell

the main goal of a newspaper is to sell their newspaper to get money they would put anything in their to sell it

Lol thats for me to know hint going look the world wide web its your friend lol

Ha ha yea ok no one bullshits on the web do they

So she didnt make the statements then

What about the 2nd article you dismissing that as well"

Pretty sure she said a decision will be made once we know the outcome of the brexit deal which would be march 2018

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


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My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact. "

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points...... "

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck."

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao "

Is that run by the self styled Rev, Stuart Campbell, that lives in that famous Scottish city of Bath?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol"

That's the point, the Tories are doing better than the SNP!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

Is that run by the self styled Rev, Stuart Campbell, that lives in that famous Scottish city of Bath? "

Wow i didnt know that was crime to be pro indy and live in Bath lol

You do you know there is alot of English born people that are pro independent for Scotland ?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao "

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

That's the point, the Tories are doing better than the SNP!"

WOw CLCC defending the Tories ? How does that make you feel ?

Fact is no they Tories aint doing a good job name one single target the Tories have met since 2010 ?

There has been a record number of pupils in Scotland passing their exams dont try and put those pupils down and dont say the shortage of teachers is the problem as its not just in Scotland the teacher shortage

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

That's the point, the Tories are doing better than the SNP!

WOw CLCC defending the Tories ? How does that make you feel ?

Fact is no they Tories aint doing a good job name one single target the Tories have met since 2010 ?

There has been a record number of pupils in Scotland passing their exams dont try and put those pupils down and dont say the shortage of teachers is the problem as its not just in Scotland the teacher shortage "

The international, unbiased and independent data shows that English kids have higher levels of attainment than Scottish kids. Doesn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site."

So if you have a different point of veiw from you then they are a bigot ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site."

You clearly havent read comments then

You tried the ginger dug ? I suppose he is a bigot too ?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site."

Quoting my own post as I forgot to add a link to their Advisory Council.

http://www.these-islands.co.uk/advisory_council/d3/

Real people with a wide breadth of knowledge, opinions and, importantly, credibility . Not a computer pirate/ journalist who's found a money spinner to latch on to.

I can guarantee you haven't read a single article on that site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

That's the point, the Tories are doing better than the SNP!

WOw CLCC defending the Tories ? How does that make you feel ?

Fact is no they Tories aint doing a good job name one single target the Tories have met since 2010 ?

There has been a record number of pupils in Scotland passing their exams dont try and put those pupils down and dont say the shortage of teachers is the problem as its not just in Scotland the teacher shortage

The international, unbiased and independent data shows that English kids have higher levels of attainment than Scottish kids. Doesn't it? "

Could you show a link to that

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol"

and see..... this is the crux of what i am saying and you never own...

if you have have the power of change for the 10 years!! OWN IT!!!!!

but you don't!!!

you like the blame the tories...

you like to blame labour

you like to blame westminster

the one set of people you never blame for anything are the snp! even when we were talking about council control! and yet they are the ones who have made all the decisions for the last 10 years!!!!

everything since 2007 you have had the ball in your court to do something about!!!!

if they haven't, you can't blame the tories....

and you can't blame labour...

and you can't blame the lib dems....

and you can't blame westminster......

but you like playing the "victim" a wee bit too much!!!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

That's the point, the Tories are doing better than the SNP!

WOw CLCC defending the Tories ? How does that make you feel ?

Fact is no they Tories aint doing a good job name one single target the Tories have met since 2010 ?

There has been a record number of pupils in Scotland passing their exams dont try and put those pupils down and dont say the shortage of teachers is the problem as its not just in Scotland the teacher shortage

The international, unbiased and independent data shows that English kids have higher levels of attainment than Scottish kids. Doesn't it?

Could you show a link to that "

Certainly.

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Pisa: Wales still worst in UK in world education tests - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38208738

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site.

So if you have a different point of veiw from you then they are a bigot ? "

Bigotted comments make him a bigot.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

and see..... this is the crux of what i am saying and you never own...

if you have have the power of change for the 10 years!! OWN IT!!!!!

but you don't!!!

you like the blame the tories...

you like to blame labour

you like to blame westminster

the one set of people you never blame for anything are the snp! even when we were talking about council control! and yet they are the ones who have made all the decisions for the last 10 years!!!!

everything since 2007 you have had the ball in your court to do something about!!!!

if they haven't, you can't blame the tories....

and you can't blame labour...

and you can't blame the lib dems....

and you can't blame westminster......

but you like playing the "victim" a wee bit too much!!!

"

You really dont have a scooby doo about Scotland Stick to England and their problems lol

The SNP have improved Scotland thats why the people keep voting them and not the pish unionist branch offices

Can you think why the unionist branch offices have not been in government in Scotland since 2007 ?

I suppose SNP are to blame for Labour's PFI eh ? Is it ok for the Scottish tax payer to be paying off that for years to come ? Oh wait one of the MSP's that is fighting to become the Scottish Labour branch leader wants the SNP to pay out to contract for the PFI which would be in the billions so thats the best thses fannies have is for the SNP to clean up their fucking mess lol

As for the Tories Scotland didnt vote scumbags why should we suffer Tory cuts ?

Ah but wait people want the SNP to mitigate yes mitigate Tory cuts instead of actually devolving the power for scrap these nasty cuts no no our government have to mitigate it and thats fine with some people even thought we didnt vote Tory great job lol

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site.

You clearly havent read comments then

You tried the ginger dug ? I suppose he is a bigot too ? "

The comments page? lol

Knew you hadn't read a single article in it. They're beyond the scope of your knowledge.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"

My god the Tory and Labour branch in Scotland think us Scottish people are thick

You're doing a sterling job in dispelling that notion then

You should see how kinky freaks out when you show them international, unbiased data proving that those is Scotland lag behind the achievements of English students! I mean I wouldn't go so far as calling them thick, but Scottish kids just don't do as well as English kids. Fact.

I feel genuinely sorry for the generation of kids who've had to go through the education system under the SNP. It's been a train-wreck.

Yet people still vote SNP and have done since 2007 must be doing something right to keep getting elected by the people lol

Would rather the Tories in charge of education or Labour ? Look how well the Tories are doing in England and by god look how good Labour are doing with education in Wales

Bet your glad none of the unionists branches are in control of Scottish education lol

and see..... this is the crux of what i am saying and you never own...

if you have have the power of change for the 10 years!! OWN IT!!!!!

but you don't!!!

you like the blame the tories...

you like to blame labour

you like to blame westminster

the one set of people you never blame for anything are the snp! even when we were talking about council control! and yet they are the ones who have made all the decisions for the last 10 years!!!!

everything since 2007 you have had the ball in your court to do something about!!!!

if they haven't, you can't blame the tories....

and you can't blame labour...

and you can't blame the lib dems....

and you can't blame westminster......

but you like playing the "victim" a wee bit too much!!!

You really dont have a scooby doo about Scotland Stick to England and their problems lol

The SNP have improved Scotland thats why the people keep voting them and not the pish unionist branch offices

Can you think why the unionist branch offices have not been in government in Scotland since 2007 ?

I suppose SNP are to blame for Labour's PFI eh ? Is it ok for the Scottish tax payer to be paying off that for years to come ? Oh wait one of the MSP's that is fighting to become the Scottish Labour branch leader wants the SNP to pay out to contract for the PFI which would be in the billions so thats the best thses fannies have is for the SNP to clean up their fucking mess lol

As for the Tories Scotland didnt vote scumbags why should we suffer Tory cuts ?

Ah but wait people want the SNP to mitigate yes mitigate Tory cuts instead of actually devolving the power for scrap these nasty cuts no no our government have to mitigate it and thats fine with some people even thought we didnt vote Tory great job lol

"

How much have the Tories cut the Scottish government's budget by?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site.

You clearly havent read comments then

You tried the ginger dug ? I suppose he is a bigot too ?

The comments page? lol

Knew you hadn't read a single article in it. They're beyond the scope of your knowledge.

"

Is the ginger dug a bigot ?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"oh and there is a certain amount of irony that kinky won't read a newspaper... but will read a blog, namely wings over scotland, to get all their talking points......

Ah right the wings issue coming now lol

Right yeah i will address it

Right yes i do go onto wings over Scotland its not a crime to do so.

Also ask yourself this why is it the unionist branches are doing everything they can to gag wings over Scotland ? Why not just ignore Stu ? I think he cant be an ass at times yeah not denying that but if is it the unionists have a problem with him and his site ? Just ignore

I will give you example ''Scotland in the Union'' web page and and ''These islands '' page i find their page aload of shite and very abusive yet i ignore the fannies i couldnt give a damn what the write.

Also i read plenty other pro indy sites you just happened to name the one unionists are shite feart of and they try to gag him instead of ignoring him wonder why eh lmao

You clearly haven't read 'These Islands', they aren't abusive at all. And to use a quote from the site "All papers published by These Islands have been peer reviewed by the Advisory Council, but represent the personal views of the author.". They're a million miles away from the hate filled bigot from Bath and his site.

You clearly havent read comments then

You tried the ginger dug ? I suppose he is a bigot too ?

The comments page? lol

Knew you hadn't read a single article in it. They're beyond the scope of your knowledge.

Is the ginger dug a bigot ? "

Who? I have no idea who he/she/it is.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Now about those Tory cuts to the Scottish government. How much are they?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

oh kinky........ahem


"

How much have the Tories cut the Scottish government's budget by? "

you can't throw in this "gem" of a question when you know there are only so many posts left!! damn you LandA!!!

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