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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? " The way I read it though, it won't be meaningful and just an option to accept the deal as "negotiated" (lol) by David Davis & Co - or crashing out because the deal is voted down. Quite clever really as May and her cohorts can then validate their claim that evidently, no deal is actually better than a bad deal. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. " Oh yeah, some on here would cut their own arm off to change the colour of their passports. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. " Actually pay less for the weekly food shop as we establish free trade deals with countries outside of the EU. You can buy food and drink from beyond the borders of the EU. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? " Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit | |||
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"fucking hell...talk about turkeys voting for christmas" in that scenario, the right wing parties will be unelectable for decades mind | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit " I am fairly fucking certain that at least one of those scenarios is the exact fucking opposite of a "win". | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit I am fairly fucking certain that at least one of those scenarios is the exact fucking opposite of a "win"." Parliament votes in favour of David Davis EU deal - we leave the EU. Or Parliament votes to reject David Davis EU deal - we still leave the EU without a deal. (Davis confirmed this earlier tonight in the house of commons when asked a direct question by Owen Paterson). So as I said it's a win/win for brexit and I'd be happy with either scenario. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit " Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 " Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 " No. This concession is no more than an attempt to fend of rebel votes this week but it is meaningless without the cast iron ability to send Davis & Co back to Brussels or to vote the Brexit negotiating out with a vote of no confidence and still have time to appoint a new cross party team. This offer will backslide later this week - especially if it appears to have fended of rebel voices for the vote on the Bill. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices" Parliament is sovereign. If they vote to recind it, who can stop them? | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices Parliament is sovereign. If they vote to recind it, who can stop them?" But like all votes in parliament it will be a simple yes or no to the deal , a no vote just means the so called dreaded hard brexit | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. Actually pay less for the weekly food shop as we establish free trade deals with countries outside of the EU. You can buy food and drink from beyond the borders of the EU. " further away? you do know that will only serve to increase costs.. the logic of lets drive past our normal supermarket to go to the same brand supermarket in the next town.. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. Actually pay less for the weekly food shop as we establish free trade deals with countries outside of the EU. You can buy food and drink from beyond the borders of the EU. further away? you do know that will only serve to increase costs.. the logic of lets drive past our normal supermarket to go to the same brand supermarket in the next town.. " Your argument really doesn't stack up. Prices are kept artificially high inside the EU. Products are available much cheaper outside of the EU. Let's drive past the expensive Waitrose supermarket and go to the Aldi or Lidl for the cheaper deals. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices Parliament is sovereign. If they vote to recind it, who can stop them? But like all votes in parliament it will be a simple yes or no to the deal , a no vote just means the so called dreaded hard brexit" But there could be a simple private members bill, a yes or no to recind. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. Actually pay less for the weekly food shop as we establish free trade deals with countries outside of the EU. You can buy food and drink from beyond the borders of the EU. further away? you do know that will only serve to increase costs.. the logic of lets drive past our normal supermarket to go to the same brand supermarket in the next town.. Your argument really doesn't stack up. Prices are kept artificially high inside the EU. Products are available much cheaper outside of the EU. Let's drive past the expensive Waitrose supermarket and go to the Aldi or Lidl for the cheaper deals. " Pointless asking you for any 'data' to back up that claim.. and you don't get it that if we are buying our imported food from other markets that they will be asking top price and given we will in your fuck the EU logic have burnt our bridges that any new supplier will have us by the nuts.. i prefer Waitrose thanks.. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit I am fairly fucking certain that at least one of those scenarios is the exact fucking opposite of a "win". Parliament votes in favour of David Davis EU deal - we leave the EU. Or Parliament votes to reject David Davis EU deal - we still leave the EU without a deal. (Davis confirmed this earlier tonight in the house of commons when asked a direct question by Owen Paterson). So as I said it's a win/win for brexit and I'd be happy with either scenario. " No, I understand both scenarios. I'm saying that at least one (let's be honest, both) are the not what any reasonable person would classify as a win. That's the "no deal" option, in case I wasn't being clear. That's a failure state. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. Actually pay less for the weekly food shop as we establish free trade deals with countries outside of the EU. You can buy food and drink from beyond the borders of the EU. further away? you do know that will only serve to increase costs.. the logic of lets drive past our normal supermarket to go to the same brand supermarket in the next town.. Your argument really doesn't stack up. Prices are kept artificially high inside the EU. Products are available much cheaper outside of the EU. Let's drive past the expensive Waitrose supermarket and go to the Aldi or Lidl for the cheaper deals. " Prices are high because of the fall in the pound since brexit doh!!! | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? " Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. " No it is impending success | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see." With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU " Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) | |||
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"fucking hell...talk about turkeys voting for christmas in that scenario, the right wing parties will be unelectable for decades mind" this... this... this because labour will always be able to point at the tories and say "you are the people who ballsed it up!" thats why the first thing they should have done was make the "brexit dept" apolitical.. a national unity dept! but instead...you put it in the hands of the hardliners.... | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. No it is impending success" i too want it to be a success but blind optimism and 'its going to be a success' is a bit naive given the complete mess it is thus far.. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease)" The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime " No it cannot the die is cast and we have to unite to make it work,because success is good for us all even you | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime No it cannot the die is cast and we have to unite to make it work,because success is good for us all even you" So parliament isn't sovereign? | |||
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"fucking hell...talk about turkeys voting for christmas in that scenario, the right wing parties will be unelectable for decades mind this... this... this because labour will always be able to point at the tories and say "you are the people who ballsed it up!" thats why the first thing they should have done was make the "brexit dept" apolitical.. a national unity dept! but instead...you put it in the hands of the hardliners...." Make it "apolitical" or in other words fudge it so we are kept in the single market and the customs union (which the British people clearly rejected in the referendum). Honestly what do you take the people for? You also seem to keep forgetting a Brexiter runs the Labour party! Mr Corbyn has been out there rallying against the EU for decades since the days of Tony Benn, it was the Labour party who started the anti EU movement in the first place. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime " .....but it won't be. | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime No it cannot the die is cast and we have to unite to make it work,because success is good for us all even you" As can-do attitude was oddly missing when the UK was in the superior position of being in the EU, it's a bit rich to insist that people just get on with this stupid idea without a complaint. | |||
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"fucking hell...talk about turkeys voting for christmas in that scenario, the right wing parties will be unelectable for decades mind this... this... this because labour will always be able to point at the tories and say "you are the people who ballsed it up!" thats why the first thing they should have done was make the "brexit dept" apolitical.. a national unity dept! but instead...you put it in the hands of the hardliners...." the first thing that will happen when jezza is elected PM at the next GE is negotiate britains EFTA agreement | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Yes it is exactly right and if people vote against it we leave without a deal so it will be passed anyway to avoid this,it is win win as far as I can see. With parliamentary sovereignty also comes the power to keep us in the EU Rubbish the EU would have a say in that and the decision has been made you have TBD(tony blaire desease) The article 50 notification can be recinded at anytime .....but it won't be. " We will see | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices Parliament is sovereign. If they vote to recind it, who can stop them? But like all votes in parliament it will be a simple yes or no to the deal , a no vote just means the so called dreaded hard brexit But there could be a simple private members bill, a yes or no to recind." Only problem there a majority of mps support brexit | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? " let's get s properly democratically elected parliament first ! | |||
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"Many people claim that they voted for parliamentary sovereignty when they voted to leave the EU. If that was a key motivation for your vote to leave, I'm sure you will be celebrating that parliament will get a vote on the final Brexit deal. This is exactly what you wanted, right? Very happy for this vote to go ahead. If David Davis returns with a deal for Parliament to vote on and Parliament rejects the deal, then we will just leave with no deal. It's a win /win for Brexit Or maybe parliament will vote to rescind aeticle 50 Only rescinding a50 wont be one of the choices Parliament is sovereign. If they vote to recind it, who can stop them? But like all votes in parliament it will be a simple yes or no to the deal , a no vote just means the so called dreaded hard brexit But there could be a simple private members bill, a yes or no to recind. Only problem there a majority of mps support brexit" No they dont, but like I said, we will see what happens. As the date gets closer, and more and more evidence comes out about how bad it is (like the 50+ government papers) we might find more of them not willing to damage the country. | |||
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"Best possible outcome. Collapse the goverment and force a re election. Then hopefully we will see the current wish of the electorate. Imported food ...huhhh.more like driviing past waitrose and looking for roadkill.. " Yes but we will only see the true wish of the electorate if 20 per cent of a party's vote means 20 per cent of the seat ect !!! | |||
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"Best possible outcome. Collapse the goverment and force a re election. Then hopefully we will see the current wish of the electorate. Imported food ...huhhh.more like driviing past waitrose and looking for roadkill.. " You seem to have the view that the rest of the world beyond the borders of the EU is similar to something out of a mad max film, barren wastelands where people scrape a living from scraps, LOL. The truth is the rest of the world outside of the EU gets on just fine (is thriving in fact) and produces great food and drink and many other great (and cheaper) products. | |||
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"You carry on beleving that. I work in the food supply sector. So recent food scares in brazil dont fazeyou.or the importation of monkey meat etc. Sure thrre wasnt a problem with horsemeat until we found out about it.lol" I am sure there was a saying "human flesh is porky meat" now where did I hear that? somewhere nice n sleazy I bet | |||
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"You carry on beleving that. I work in the food supply sector. So recent food scares in brazil dont fazeyou.or the importation of monkey meat etc. Sure thrre wasnt a problem with horsemeat until we found out about it.lol" The horsemeat scandal happened within the EU as I recall. Talking of recent food scares are you still buying your pesticide contaminated eggs from the EU? | |||
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"You carry on beleving that. I work in the food supply sector. So recent food scares in brazil dont fazeyou.or the importation of monkey meat etc. Sure thrre wasnt a problem with horsemeat until we found out about it.lol The horsemeat scandal happened within the EU as I recall. Talking of recent food scares are you still buying your pesticide contaminated eggs from the EU? " Maybe you should explain how it's going to get better when we start importing from countries with lower standards? | |||
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"Slowly but surely it has to be sinking into the heads of the population that this is beginning to look like an impending car crash..? or will for some it be totally worth it so they can say, we have got our country back.. as they pay more for the weekly food shop.. Oh yeah, some on here would cut their own arm off to change the colour of their passports. " Theyd likely prefer to cut someone else's arm of,f, rather than accepting the cost of getting their passport, sovereignty etc | |||
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