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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher." How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt" To me it represents approx half of our imports and exports are elsewhere. The point of the thread is whatever you want it to be  | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt To me it represents approx half of our imports and exports are elsewhere. The point of the thread is whatever you want it to be "Well to me it seem were fucked lol | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt To me it represents approx half of our imports and exports are elsewhere. The point of the thread is whatever you want it to be "Goods or services? -Matt | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post?" That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item  .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides. | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides."It is lose-lose, but they lose something like 8%, and we lose closer to 40-50% | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides.". The single biggest loser will be the UK who put almost half of their exports at risk. Other damaged parties will Include Ireland in particular. The U.K. has long term form for fucking the Irish over but fortunately now they will not be alone if the U.K. decides to go full kamikaze. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt" If business consumers in the eu want our products , junker would be under pressure to make a deal surely? | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt If business consumers in the eu want our products , junker would be under pressure to make a deal surely? " They have made it perfectly clear, that whilst trade with the UK is important, trade with the rest of the EU is more important. | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides.
It is lose-lose, but they lose something like 8%, and we lose closer to 40-50%"We don't 'lose' 40-50% and they don't 'lose' 8%. Those amounts are affected by the negotiation. Either remaining free trade or wto, or other deal. The 8% is a misleading figure. We are ,for example' Germany's 3rd largest export market after the usa and France. | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides.
It is lose-lose, but they lose something like 8%, and we lose closer to 40-50%
We don't 'lose' 40-50% and they don't 'lose' 8%.
Those amounts are affected by the negotiation. Either remaining free trade or wto, or other deal.
The 8% is a misleading figure. We are ,for example' Germany's 3rd largest export market after the usa and France."We are not negotiating with Germany, we are negotiating with the EU. Exports from the EU to the UK, make up around 8% of their exports, we export 40-50% of our exports to the EU. Therefore the UK has a lot, lot more to lose. | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides.
It is lose-lose, but they lose something like 8%, and we lose closer to 40-50%
We don't 'lose' 40-50% and they don't 'lose' 8%.
Those amounts are affected by the negotiation. Either remaining free trade or wto, or other deal.
The 8% is a misleading figure. We are ,for example' Germany's 3rd largest export market after the usa and France.
We are not negotiating with Germany, we are negotiating with the EU. Exports from the EU to the UK, make up around 8% of their exports, we export 40-50% of our exports to the EU. Therefore the UK has a lot, lot more to lose. "My primary point is we don't 'lose' 40-50% of our export trade, as you said. That amount is 'affected' by any new deal. | |||
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"Is this a “they need us more than we need them” post? That would take more than just pulling figures from a news item .
The news item did close saying that a no trades deal is a lose-lose for both sides.
It is lose-lose, but they lose something like 8%, and we lose closer to 40-50%
We don't 'lose' 40-50% and they don't 'lose' 8%.
Those amounts are affected by the negotiation. Either remaining free trade or wto, or other deal.
The 8% is a misleading figure. We are ,for example' Germany's 3rd largest export market after the usa and France.
We are not negotiating with Germany, we are negotiating with the EU. Exports from the EU to the UK, make up around 8% of their exports, we export 40-50% of our exports to the EU. Therefore the UK has a lot, lot more to lose.
My primary point is we don't 'lose' 40-50% of our export trade, as you said. That amount is 'affected' by any new deal."I agree and apologise for my hyperbolic response to the lose-lose post. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher." Yes many businesses would be completely unfazed if they suddenly lost 43% of their sales. And Im sure you'd be ok with losing 43% of your income as well. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt To me it represents approx half of our imports and exports are elsewhere. The point of the thread is whatever you want it to be "I'd recommend you listen to billionaire businessesman James Dyson's interview yesterday on the BBC Andrew Marr show. He says we have nothing to fear from Brexit and should embrace it with open arms. He says in the interview his company had already "fallen off the cliff" and thrived despite trading with Europe on tariffs set for companies outside of the EU for years. Sir James said "Look there are fantastic opportunities outside of Europe. Europe is the slowest growing area in the world. All the other areas are much faster growing, I think 90% of future growth will come from outside of the EU. " He also said in the interview that the EU's demands for billions and billions in a divorce bill are "outrageous" and Theresa May should walk away now without paying a single penny, as it's the only way to deal with these people. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. Yes many businesses would be completely unfazed if they suddenly lost 43% of their sales. And Im sure you'd be ok with losing 43% of your income as well. " They are 43% of our *export* sales, not 43% of our total sales. Still very important (12-15%) though. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. How much higher would they need to be for you to be 'more worried'? I mean, those numbers represent a pretty significant chunk of our trading volume. Larger than any other trading partner. Besides that, what is the point of this thread? -Matt To me it represents approx half of our imports and exports are elsewhere. The point of the thread is whatever you want it to be
I'd recommend you listen to billionaire businessesman James Dyson's interview yesterday on the BBC Andrew Marr show. He says we have nothing to fear from Brexit and should embrace it with open arms. He says in the interview his company had already "fallen off the cliff" and thrived despite trading with Europe on tariffs set for companies outside of the EU for years. Sir James said "Look there are fantastic opportunities outside of Europe. Europe is the slowest growing area in the world. All the other areas are much faster growing, I think 90% of future growth will come from outside of the EU. "
He also said in the interview that the EU's demands for billions and billions in a divorce bill are "outrageous" and Theresa May should walk away now without paying a single penny, as it's the only way to deal with these people. "Do you believe everything all theese idiots say if so you will be disappointed in the outcome of all this garbage you read and hear | |||
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"Dyson was only too happy to use the ECHR when he was suing the patent office, then went off the EU when stricter energy efficiency standards were brought in. It's almost as if his mood changes with what benefits him and his company at any particular moment." A bit like Davis suing May through the ECHR. He thinks he should get to use it, but no one else should. | |||
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"UK exports to the EU in 2016 43% of all UK exports. UK imports from the EU 54%. I'd be more worried if the figures were much higher. Yes many businesses would be completely unfazed if they suddenly lost 43% of their sales. And Im sure you'd be ok with losing 43% of your income as well. " 43% of nothing is nothing  but i get your point. But the idea of having about 50% trade elsewhere surely means movement?
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"Dyson was only too happy to use the ECHR when he was suing the patent office, then went off the EU when stricter energy efficiency standards were brought in. It's almost as if his mood changes with what benefits him and his company at any particular moment." Wouldn't any capitalist act as such? | |||
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"Dyson was only too happy to use the ECHR when he was suing the patent office, then went off the EU when stricter energy efficiency standards were brought in. It's almost as if his mood changes with what benefits him and his company at any particular moment. Wouldn't any capitalist act as such?" Which is why any pronouncement from Dyson (or similar) requires a pinch of salt so large it would require all of next year's daily intake | |||
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"Dyson was only too happy to use the ECHR when he was suing the patent office, then went off the EU when stricter energy efficiency standards were brought in. It's almost as if his mood changes with what benefits him and his company at any particular moment. Wouldn't any capitalist act as such?" Some become more benevolent as their resources outgrow their requirements, others don't. | |||
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"Its also important to note that if the UK doesnt make a deal with the EU they not only lose the single market access they also lose e ery other trade deal with every other country the EU has, so its not just the EU exports that are at risk..." Why, how? | |||
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"Its also important to note that if the UK doesnt make a deal with the EU they not only lose the single market access they also lose e ery other trade deal with every other country the EU has, so its not just the EU exports that are at risk... Why, how?" Because the EU have the trade deals not the UK. When we leave we lose it all and go onto WTO RULES. Don t worry though Liam Fox will have hundreds of deals ready to sign up the day after. Watch for the flying pigs...... | |||
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"Its also important to note that if the UK doesnt make a deal with the EU they not only lose the single market access they also lose e ery other trade deal with every other country the EU has, so its not just the EU exports that are at risk... Why, how?" At the moment the UK benefits from all the trade deals the EU has with other countries. When we leave the EU, we leave all of these other deals too. So we won’t just be losing some trade with the EU, but with a whole host of other countries too like South Korea and Turkey for example. | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol." It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked  | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked "That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started. | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started."I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now. | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now."CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election  | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election "Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason. | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election
Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason.
"Major wasnt that dim as the rest lol | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election
Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason.
Major wasnt that dim as the rest lol"As a politician maybe not, as a man... Edwina Currie (need i say more). | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election
Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason.
Major wasnt that dim as the rest lol
As a politician maybe not, as a man... Edwina Currie (need i say more)."Thats true haha | |||
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"Its also important to note that if the UK doesnt make a deal with the EU they not only lose the single market access they also lose e ery other trade deal with every other country the EU has, so its not just the EU exports that are at risk... Why, how? Because the EU have the trade deals not the UK. When we leave we lose it all and go onto WTO RULES. Don t worry though Liam Fox will have hundreds of deals ready to sign up the day after. Watch for the flying pigs......" ...... which we know they can't anyway because the UK can't start negoiating with other countries until they leave! | |||
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"anyway i wonder if any of our "no deal" friends took in what the head of aston martin said at the parlimentry committee today if there was no deal... " There not the only car manufacturer to say that...go back a couple of months to the Frankfurt motor show....most were saying the same thing | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election
Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason.
Major wasnt that dim as the rest lol
As a politician maybe not, as a man... Edwina Currie (need i say more).
Thats true haha "That is right, there was no exit strategy. | |||
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"Basically uk will be fucked when leaving the eu lol. It started with the group of incompetents that are managing it Shag - it's already fucked That is right it was, brexit was failing even before it started.
I imagine the problem started with the parties not believing that Brexit would happen, hence no exit strategy, hence fluffing around now.
CamMoron did it to further his and the Tory partiesw OWN interests...he wanted to purge the Tories of the UKIPers it backfired on him just like it did with MAy calling the election
Wasn't it Major in the hot seat when the referendum reared its head. It was wisely blocked but cannot recall the STATED reason.
Major wasnt that dim as the rest lol
As a politician maybe not, as a man... Edwina Currie (need i say more).
Thats true haha That is right, there was no exit strategy."No just eggsit | |||
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