FabSwingers.com forum: Brexit Impact Studies

By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

I assume that they will have been written under May's pro-Brexit government, rather than Cameron's pro-remain government. Are they going to be an honest, professional assessment from a civil service telling truth to power, or are they going to be a whitewash either way that should be dismissed out of hand?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

Ive often come onto this area of the forum but rarely comment, however I've noticed that you in particular are clearly no fan of brexit.

Soooo.... my suggestion to you is that if the papers are released and they are positive about brexit then you'll say, its not credible etc etc.

If however it goes the way i assume that you would like it to go and its negative then im going to assume that you believe every word of it and probably start a new anti brexit thead on a swingers site..

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

Ive often come onto this area of the forum but rarely comment, however I've noticed that you in particular are clearly no fan of brexit.

Soooo.... my suggestion to you is that if the papers are released and they are positive about brexit then you'll say, its not credible etc etc.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

You believed every word of Cameron's pro-remain assessments as an honest, professional assessment from a civil service telling truth to power.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

Do these papers actually exist? I thought Davis had been caught out again with these so called papers. In June and again last month he said that there were “more than 50, almost 60” of these papers and yet a couple of days ago after the Speaker had demanded they be made public he backtracked and said that people “misunderstood what the papers actually were.”

My personal feeling is that the Govt will spend the next three weeks building a pro Brexit dossier and then try to convince us all that they have always been in place.

I don’t care about the Leave or Remain sympathies of anyone, but we all deserve to be treated more honestly than this shower of imbeciles. Lying and blustering is not effective policies to take forward in a post Brexit world. It may have been OK when failings could be blamed on the EU, but not anymore. We should have open, honest and credible politicians serving in effective Governments that act for the good of the country.

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"It seems as though we are going to have to wait a little bit longer for the studies to be released, however, I want to know who is going to believe them?

Ive often come onto this area of the forum but rarely comment, however I've noticed that you in particular are clearly no fan of brexit.

Soooo.... my suggestion to you is that if the papers are released and they are positive about brexit then you'll say, its not credible etc etc.

You clearly didn't grasp the reason why I am asking the question before they are published.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we grasped it fully!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i tried answering the question being the lovely civil servant i am because "our friend" kinky tried to ask the question which turned it into a political bashing against those south of the border.. as per!

so i'll put the same answer here as i put in that thread...

as far as i am aware the policy papers are NOT dealing with what outlays are going to be lost by each region (i have actually been asking around today because I thought the topic may arise.....)

so if Kinky is looking something for beat around everyone south of the border and not SNP that is not the point of the policy papers and to spin it that way is going to be disengenious....

what the policy papers DO revolve around are what the likely conseqences are for the difference sectors... (adding a bit here... financial, pharma, tourism, food, services, car industry ect ect)

so example....

What happens in the case of UK leaving Eurotom?

What happens in the case of the UK leaving the Open Skies agreement?

What happens in the Case of the UK leaving the CAP (Common Agricultral Policy)?

What haapens in the case if there are no arrangements with regards to the European Financial Passport?

and so on.... and so on.......

this is the bit i will add....

the reports are all being generated by civil servants so they should all be "neutral" ... after all if you want a deal you need to genuinely know where your strengths and weaknesses are....

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"i tried answering the question being the lovely civil servant i am because "our friend" kinky tried to ask the question which turned it into a political bashing against those south of the border.. as per!

so i'll put the same answer here as i put in that thread...

as far as i am aware the policy papers are NOT dealing with what outlays are going to be lost by each region (i have actually been asking around today because I thought the topic may arise.....)

so if Kinky is looking something for beat around everyone south of the border and not SNP that is not the point of the policy papers and to spin it that way is going to be disengenious....

what the policy papers DO revolve around are what the likely conseqences are for the difference sectors... (adding a bit here... financial, pharma, tourism, food, services, car industry ect ect)

so example....

What happens in the case of UK leaving Eurotom?

What happens in the case of the UK leaving the Open Skies agreement?

What happens in the Case of the UK leaving the CAP (Common Agricultral Policy)?

What haapens in the case if there are no arrangements with regards to the European Financial Passport?

and so on.... and so on.......

this is the bit i will add....

the reports are all being generated by civil servants so they should all be "neutral" ... after all if you want a deal you need to genuinely know where your strengths and weaknesses are.... "

I saw that post, and understood them to be regarding sectors, rather than regions, although there may be some overlap there. For example fishing isn't a big industry in Cambridge, so will be less impacted by a change in the CFP, than other parts of the UK.

I think the reports should be believed, but I wonder if others will give their opinions before they are published.

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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I think we grasped it fully!"

The person who said that people would only say after the reports had been published clearly didn't get it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do hope there clear an open....and above all honest....but i very much doubt it...as Mays government depends on them...any bad news would not be welcome to them....but id bet my bottom dollar on most of it blaming the EU as per usual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soooo.... my suggestion to you is that if the papers are released and they are positive about brexit then you'll say, its not credible etc etc.

If they were positive, there wouldn't be such a song and dance about getting them released.

May is a chronic incompetent, but she's not daft enough to suppress news that would bolster her decision to continue with brexit.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

The government has completed a survey on how happy we are and it is a fact thst British people are happier since we voted to leave the EU.

I am sure that most of you will not like it especially as this is a FACT not a prediction from a so called expert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The government has completed a survey on how happy we are and it is a fact thst British people are happier since we voted to leave the EU.

I am sure that most of you will not like it especially as this is a FACT not a prediction from a so called expert"

Wait till it kicks in and see how happy the Jeremy Kyle watchers are then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The government has completed a survey on how happy we are and it is a fact thst British people are happier since we voted to leave the EU.

I am sure that most of you will not like it especially as this is a FACT not a prediction from a so called expert"

How many ppl took part in the survey ?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"The government has completed a survey on how happy we are and it is a fact thst British people are happier since we voted to leave the EU.

I am sure that most of you will not like it especially as this is a FACT not a prediction from a so called expert

Wait till it kicks in and see how happy the Jeremy Kyle watchers are then "
You are very ignorant about the type of people that voted for brexit and your ideas are very fixed in your own ideas.I am sure even if brexit was a 200% success which it wont you would find fault.I am damn sure Kyle watchers did not vote as it would be way beyond them lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The government has completed a survey on how happy we are and it is a fact thst British people are happier since we voted to leave the EU.

I am sure that most of you will not like it especially as this is a FACT not a prediction from a so called expert

Wait till it kicks in and see how happy the Jeremy Kyle watchers are then You are very ignorant about the type of people that voted for brexit and your ideas are very fixed in your own ideas.I am sure even if brexit was a 200% success which it wont you would find fault.I am damn sure Kyle watchers did not vote as it would be way beyond them lol"

Nah its a fact...just as its a fact as people are happier now lol

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm assuming that a party that failed to get a majority in the recent elections will cobble together some cooked up papers that potentially won't harm their chances of getting back into government, however slim the odds seem.

It's not an honest or law abiding party, judging by their behavior overall.

It would have come as no surprise that this compilation was to be presented - so the conservatives not being ready shows their level of incompetence and disdain for the public that they serve - you'd be inclined to think that they govern for themselves and not the people. Citizens deserve not to be hoodwinked or deceived.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've not followed much if any of the brexit fallout, however being somewhat familiar with the public sector; I'd say that with Brexit being inevitable any reports will paint a positive picture, the government will not want to release a report saying the electorate fucked up. The cynic in me says the delays are due to the outcomes of the reports not fully aligning with the party line and them rewriting until they do.

Ginger

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