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"I'd rather spend time effort and money teaching people how to deal with being "offended" better than waste time effort and money on thought crime " You're having a fine debate with yourself.Think about that. I'm not offended by your ideas. It's when speech leads to an effect, such as people being alarmed or distressed, that the law steps in. Give me a concrete example of what you claim is a thought crime that impinges on yr right to free speech. | |||
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"Leading on from the Political correctness thread which is really about the US reaction to the killings in NYC. An issue has been raised that I think is worth debating. Do we have a right to offend? And if we do at what point, if at all, does the right not to be offended superseded the first right? I would say the right to free speech (within the law) regardless of offence caused has to be sacrosanct. It is every ones right to be a total arse and be seen for the total arse they are. " Job done. You thought it, you said it. | |||
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"I'd rather spend time effort and money teaching people how to deal with being "offended" better than waste time effort and money on thought crime You're having a fine debate with yourself.Think about that. I'm not offended by your ideas. It's when speech leads to an effect, such as people being alarmed or distressed, that the law steps in. Give me a concrete example of what you claim is a thought crime that impinges on yr right to free speech. " . Islamaphobia | |||
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"I'd rather spend time effort and money teaching people how to deal with being "offended" better than waste time effort and money on thought crime You're having a fine debate with yourself.Think about that. I'm not offended by your ideas. It's when speech leads to an effect, such as people being alarmed or distressed, that the law steps in. Give me a concrete example of what you claim is a thought crime that impinges on yr right to free speech. . Islamaphobia" one word answer. Misspelled. No concrete examples. A shining example of incoherence in practice. If you are islamophobic surely the key question in not whether it's a thought crime, but why? | |||
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"I'd rather spend time effort and money teaching people how to deal with being "offended" better than waste time effort and money on thought crime You're having a fine debate with yourself.Think about that. I'm not offended by your ideas. It's when speech leads to an effect, such as people being alarmed or distressed, that the law steps in. Give me a concrete example of what you claim is a thought crime that impinges on yr right to free speech. . Islamaphobiaone word answer. Misspelled. No concrete examples. A shining example of incoherence in practice. If you are islamophobic surely the key question in not whether it's a thought crime, but why?" . Trumpophobia | |||
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"No offence but your just talking bollocks for the sake of an argument... If your Alarmed or distressed, the law steps in?... Distressed/offended, opposite sides of the same coin, load of leftist bullshit aimed at silencing everything and anything they don't like hearing." How have you been silenced exactly? Being criticised isn't the same as being silenced. This is part of the problem with this debate. Some people want to be able to have their free speech, but don't want others to have the right to reply... | |||
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"No offence but your just talking bollocks for the sake of an argument... If your Alarmed or distressed, the law steps in?... Distressed/offended, opposite sides of the same coin, load of leftist bullshit aimed at silencing everything and anything they don't like hearing." section 5 public order act. Has anyone silenced you? | |||
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"Give me a concrete example of what you claim is a thought crime that impinges on yr right to free speech. " I like James O’Brien and think he talks a lot of sense. However I heard him say today that it is OK to say to a woman wearing a low cut dress "thats a nice dress" but it is sexual harassment to to say 'Cor! you look sexy in that' or 'your a real turn on in that dress!' or to wolf whistle. Now rightly or wrongly in my opinion if you dress in a way that will attract attention then you have to accept that you will get attention, and you must also accept that some of that attention will come from people you disapprove of for whatever reason be it they are not your type or the attention is crude. To me everyone has to take a degree of responsibility for things they bring on themselves. | |||
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"No offence but your just talking bollocks for the sake of an argument... If your Alarmed or distressed, the law steps in?... Distressed/offended, opposite sides of the same coin, load of leftist bullshit aimed at silencing everything and anything they don't like hearing.section 5 public order act. Has anyone silenced you?" . Try wandering through Luton with a big picture of Mohammed... See if you get silenced | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. " I can't find the "like" button. | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. " They don't demean, assualt or bugger him though | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. They don't demean, assualt or bugger him though" Really? Please tell me about this advert where a woman is "demeaned, assaulted or buggered" please. I'll wait... | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. They don't demean, assualt or bugger him though Really? Please tell me about this advert where a woman is "demeaned, assaulted or buggered" please. I'll wait... " Not on an advert but, all over the world young girls and women are sexually assaulted. I know I have worked with these destroyed souls. | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. They don't demean, assualt or bugger him though Really? Please tell me about this advert where a woman is "demeaned, assaulted or buggered" please. I'll wait... Not on an advert but, all over the world young girls and women are sexually assaulted. I know I have worked with these destroyed souls. " It's pretty difficult not to be aware of this well known fact but thanks anyway. | |||
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"Leading on from the Political correctness thread which is really about the US reaction to the killings in NYC. An issue has been raised that I think is worth debating. Do we have a right to offend? And if we do at what point, if at all, does the right not to be offended superseded the first right? I would say the right to free speech (within the law) regardless of offence caused has to be sacrosanct. It is every ones right to be a total arse and be seen for the total arse they are. " Wonderfull I could not agree more | |||
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"Leading on from the Political correctness thread which is really about the US reaction to the killings in NYC. An issue has been raised that I think is worth debating. Do we have a right to offend? And if we do at what point, if at all, does the right not to be offended superseded the first right? I would say the right to free speech (within the law) regardless of offence caused has to be sacrosanct. It is every ones right to be a total arse and be seen for the total arse they are. Wonderfull I could not agree more" Some would call them asses some would call them uneducated fools...but hey ho | |||
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"No we are not, no one is allowed to mention islam or the pc brigade would start, sweden is a good example lol." Yes, I hear Sweden is home to super Muslims who are here to destroy all that is pure in the world. Fifty feet tall and shooting lazers from their eyes. | |||
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"No we are not, no one is allowed to mention islam or the pc brigade would start, sweden is a good example lol. Yes, I hear Sweden is home to super Muslims who are here to destroy all that is pure in the world. Fifty feet tall and shooting lazers from their eyes. " What happens in sweden, stays there lol. | |||
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"Leading on from the Political correctness thread which is really about the US reaction to the killings in NYC. An issue has been raised that I think is worth debating. Do we have a right to offend? And if we do at what point, if at all, does the right not to be offended superseded the first right? I would say the right to free speech (within the law) regardless of offence caused has to be sacrosanct. It is every ones right to be a total arse and be seen for the total arse they are. " I wouldn't say the right to offend, but the right to say what others wouldn't like to be told. : constructive criticism, not something bigoted etc.. | |||
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"No offence but your just talking bollocks for the sake of an argument... If your Alarmed or distressed, the law steps in?... Distressed/offended, opposite sides of the same coin, load of leftist bullshit aimed at silencing everything and anything they don't like hearing.section 5 public order act. Has anyone silenced you?. Try wandering through Luton with a big picture of Mohammed... See if you get silenced" That's not actually an answer to the question is it? YOu were asked if you have been silenced, and came up with a hypothetical example straight out of some paranoid fantasy.... So we can take it that you haven't been slenced. | |||
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"No we are not, no one is allowed to mention islam or the pc brigade would start, sweden is a good example lol." You just mentioned Islam, and you were allowed to do it. Do you think the 'PC brigade' are having the day off or somesuch? The cognitive dissonance involved in whining that you're not allowed to talk about the things you never stop banging on about is astonishing... | |||
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"I've had a serious gripe for years about them coka cola adverts where a bunch of women objectify a young man going about his work. They don't demean, assualt or bugger him though" I believe in the directors cut of the advert all of this happen with his enthusiastic consent after a careful discussion of his limits and experience. It does in my world anyway | |||
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