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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far? "What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms? | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms? "Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did. 
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far."Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct. Which are you? | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far."Its a fine line and that line keeps moving.For example blacking up is for a costume isnt as popular as it used to be.I guess it depends on your age and what era you grew up in.However you've got to move with the zeitgeist or get called a dinosaur. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
"Really well i think they do...and know they do...you only have to check out the rise in hate crimes | |||
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"Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct. Which are you? " Personally, I would use all those words, fact is I will use all the words in my vocabulary if and when they are appropriate. The fact that I can't think of a time when such words would be appropriate is to me the important thing, not that I would not use a word because of social pressure. I equate political correctness with with censorship by social pressure. And that is as wrong as the views that are being suppressed. In my opinion. | |||
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"Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct. Which are you? Personally, I would use all those words, fact is I will use all the words in my vocabulary if and when they are appropriate. The fact that I can't think of a time when such words would be appropriate is to me the important thing, not that I would not use a word because of social pressure. I equate political correctness with with censorship by social pressure. And that is as wrong as the views that are being suppressed. In my opinion." would you use a word if the other person found it offensive though ? | |||
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"Which are you? Personally, I would use all those words, fact is I will use all the words in my vocabulary if and when they are appropriate. The fact that I can't think of a time when such words would be appropriate is to me the important thing, not that I would not use a word because of social pressure. I equate political correctness with with censorship by social pressure. And that is as wrong as the views that are being suppressed. In my opinion. would you use a word if the other person found it offensive though ?" Oh yes! I am more than capable of insulting anyone I feel deserves insulting, and have done so on many occasions in both private and public. However I am usually able to use more poetically colourful language rather than prosaic gutter talk. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you? "I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to. If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you?
I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to.
If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight.
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"I think Trump is correct, but not for the same reasons as him. (And here I have to ask Fabio, our female, TV, openly gay and lesbian forum members if my thinking is correct or not.) I believe that political correctness has forced racism, homophobia and misogyny into the closet and underground rather than removing the problem, and I for one would rather such problems be out in the open where they can be seen and addressed. What I do find overwhelmingly saddening about the whole affair is that a month to the day a gunman killed 58 and wounded 546 and the reaction from Trump was to say no gun control but within hours of this tragedy Trump was issuing orders to homeland security and being very proactive about these killings. I am afraid Fabio, that I have reached the conclusion that the land of your birth has a very serious addiction to firearms and is deeply racist. And that your president suffers from both afflictions." I would honestly have asked what has he said this time.....but unfortunately his tweets come up on my timeline.... the problem is that with stuff like this he jumps to conclusions quickly and wants action asap, but when it comes to vegas when people want action asap he says too early to tak to suit his narrative! anyway... were he has cocked up so far on this matter... a) wants extreme vetting.. which is fine, but with all the rules he wants to bring in it would not have stopped this person and its not on the list of banned affected countries... b) likes to blame it on overseas factors, when the NYPD and the FBI both confirmed he was radicalised domestically... c) then wants to blame Schumer for the initial legistlation brought in under bush 20 years ago, when it wasn't him, and then he was part of the "gang of 8" senator who tried to reform immigration that would have ended this program, only to the defeated by republicans.... d) then trump calls for the death penalty!! which means a laywer can perfectly well claim that he has tainted the jury pool and would not get a fair verdict... which means he is now more likely to get life with no parole instead! i just wish he would tweet less and govern more.... but since he has proved to be crap at the govern bit... this is what we have for the next 3 years ish! | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you?
I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to.
If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight.
So you're politically correct then! "Having quite a few friends who are not Caucasian, I find it increasing hilarious they they themselves address each other using the "N" word . They use it in everyday language but God Forbid anyone else who uses it . . The PC brigade are on us like a ton of bricks. | |||
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" Having quite a few friends who are not Caucasian, I find it increasing hilarious they they themselves address each other using the "N" word . They use it in everyday language but God Forbid anyone else who uses it . . The PC brigade are on us like a ton of bricks. " It's almost like there is such a thing as context, isn't it. | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not " .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him" You know what i mean...and maybe he will but i doubt that....wanna know the reason.....HES WHITE | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him You know what i mean...and maybe he will but i doubt that....wanna know the reason.....HES WHITE" . I'd say he's orangey white myself!  | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you?
I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to.
If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight.
So you're politically correct then!
Having quite a few friends who are not Caucasian, I find it increasing hilarious they they themselves address each other using the "N" word . They use it in everyday language but God Forbid anyone else who uses it . . The PC brigade are on us like a ton of bricks. "you're typing quite well for someone who's had a ton of bricks on them. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far? "I'm not even sure you know what you mean. In what way has pc (whatever that is) gone too far? | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him You know what i mean...and maybe he will but i doubt that....wanna know the reason.....HES WHITE. I'd say he's orangey white myself! "True with an even worst hairstyle | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him You know what i mean...and maybe he will but i doubt that....wanna know the reason.....HES WHITE. I'd say he's orangey white myself!
True with an even worst hairstyle ". It could be pretty fly on a windy day for a orangey white guy  | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far? I'm not even sure you know what you mean. In what way has pc (whatever that is) gone too far?"It usually something to do with muslims and Sweden and the Islamification of the west.Liberals opening the flood gates etc etc. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you?
I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to.
If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight.
So you're politically correct then! "I have no problem with political correctness per se. However I just think in some areas it has gone way too far. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.
Not using those words because they are offensive is being politically correct. If you do use those words, and similar words, then you are not politically correct.
Which are you?
I don't use those words because they are deeply offensive to whole groups of people. However I reserve the right to dress up my grandaughter as Moana if she wants to.
If that offends a dopey left wing blogger with an over inflated opinion of herself who seems to be the only person offended by it, then hey ho I'll sleep well tonight.
So you're politically correct then!
I have no problem with political correctness per se.
However I just think in some areas it has gone way too far."what does that mean? | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not " Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead.  | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead. "Old ground been over...ok how about the Neo-Nazi that ran over the woman in Charlottesville....is that better...never saw Trump calling for his execution either | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far."That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry."I think you're making this up as you go along. IS and Islam are not the same thing.... | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry."It's ok to talk about the IRA, but it's not ok to say they represent all Christians, in exactly the same way that Islamic State don't represent all muslims. | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead.
Old ground been over...ok how about the Neo-Nazi that ran over the woman in Charlottesville....is that better...never saw Trump calling for his execution either "But Trump is a pillock. | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead.
Old ground been over...ok how about the Neo-Nazi that ran over the woman in Charlottesville....is that better...never saw Trump calling for his execution either
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry.
It's ok to talk about the IRA, but it's not ok to say they represent all Christians, in exactly the same way that Islamic State don't represent all muslims.". That's simpleton talk. The IRA were NOT fighting bombing or killing for Catholicism. Nothing they did was in the name of Catholicism, they didn't shout Jesus is great before setting a bomb off and they didn't use suicide bombing as a means to get to heaven | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not .. Err coz the guy in Vegas shot himself!. Although I wouldn't put it past trump tweeting... dig him up and kill him again I say, that'll teach him"  | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead. "It has only just gone Halloween though, maybe put him in the electric chair and like Frankenstein he'll come back to life | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks..." . Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it" But you are completely free to point out the specific aspects of Islam which are problematic. Who is stopping you? | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it But you are completely free to point out the specific aspects of Islam which are problematic. Who is stopping you? " . Muslims, they keep actually killing or threatening to kill or worse still.... Claim there offended every time anybody says anything about Islam and especially Mohammed, whow betide anybody that thinks they can draw cartoons about that little rascal | |||
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"I'd say he's orangey white myself! "You made me spill my drink! | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it But you are completely free to point out the specific aspects of Islam which are problematic. Who is stopping you? . Muslims, they keep actually killing or threatening to kill or worse still.... Claim there offended every time anybody says anything about Islam and especially Mohammed, whow betide anybody that thinks they can draw cartoons about that little rascal "You mean Isis kills and threatens. I've never been killed or threatened by any Muslims I've known socially or worked with. It's almost like there are differences between extremists and everyday people. Anyway. Still waiting for an example of how being less PC stops terrorists. | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it" 4.4% actually | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it But you are completely free to point out the specific aspects of Islam which are problematic. Who is stopping you? . Muslims, they keep actually killing or threatening to kill or worse still.... Claim there offended every time anybody says anything about Islam and especially Mohammed, whow betide anybody that thinks they can draw cartoons about that little rascal
You mean Isis kills and threatens. I've never been killed or threatened by any Muslims I've known socially or worked with. It's almost like there are differences between extremists and everyday people.
Anyway. Still waiting for an example of how being less PC stops terrorists. ". Well there's so many Islamic extremists groups it's hard to keep count. Ive never been sexualy assaulted myself by Harvey Weinstein but I still think there's elements of a shitty cultural practise in Hollywood!.... | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology" So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days "And calling Islam an evil ideology helps us fight terrorism by...? (It certainly doesn't help us get moderate Muslims to report on radicalized people in their communities. It doesn't help stop young Muslims becoming radicalized in the first place.) | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days "Don't American Christians kill humans they think are bad ? | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry.
It's ok to talk about the IRA, but it's not ok to say they represent all Christians, in exactly the same way that Islamic State don't represent all muslims..
That's simpleton talk.
The IRA were NOT fighting bombing or killing for Catholicism.
Nothing they did was in the name of Catholicism, they didn't shout Jesus is great before setting a bomb off and they didn't use suicide bombing as a means to get to heaven"Islamic state aren't fighting for Islam either. Want to know who the majority of their victims are? It's not British policemen or Ariana Grande fans, its other Muslims. Islamic state is a political organisation fighting for territory that it can exert it's political control over. No different from other terrorist organisations. | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry.
It's ok to talk about the IRA, but it's not ok to say they represent all Christians, in exactly the same way that Islamic State don't represent all muslims..
That's simpleton talk.
The IRA were NOT fighting bombing or killing for Catholicism.
Nothing they did was in the name of Catholicism, they didn't shout Jesus is great before setting a bomb off and they didn't use suicide bombing as a means to get to heaven
Islamic state aren't fighting for Islam either. Want to know who the majority of their victims are? It's not British policemen or Ariana Grande fans, its other Muslims. Islamic state is a political organisation fighting for territory that it can exert it's political control over. No different from other terrorist organisations. "Indeed They shout god is great and thus surely by very idiotic logic that means they represent not just Muslims but all people who believe in a god Damm racist morons are idiotic ! I have little doubt that strong ideology can be abused to manipulate humans into doing vile things , however to single out one ideology is beyond simplistic and evidentialy narrow minded , pre judgmental , and very very dangerous to the point of being a demonstration of an ideology being manipulated Irony alert , it's obvious | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far? "me it has gone way to far | |||
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far? me it has gone way to far"be careful what you wish for | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days
And calling Islam an evil ideology helps us fight terrorism by...?
(It certainly doesn't help us get moderate Muslims to report on radicalized people in their communities. It doesn't help stop young Muslims becoming radicalized in the first place.)
". Ok let's say Nazism isn't that bad, it's just a little bit oooo , well say this just trying to get the slightly young, slightly keen willing to follow Nazis, you know, the ones who aren't really bad but we don't want the hard line fuckers to say.... Hey look at the West, they really hate Nazis, you should join us and kill them.. I mean what was I thinking, obviously I'll never get moderate Nazis on side. Oh well, fuck em, I hate fucking Nazis and frankly I don't give a shit about offending them, I hate fucking Muslims as well and I really don't give two shits about offending them either | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days
Don't American Christians kill humans they think are bad ?
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"Hating 1.8 Billion people, that must be exhausting..." . Not really, they choose to be Muslim, just like Catholics choose to be Catholic or Hindus choose to be Hindu, I've got nothing against cows but seeing them as divine is pretty silly, often people who accidentally run over a cow in the road will be beaten unconscious by offended Hindus, I don't mind saying there fucking idiots following a crazy ideology, that's Hindus for yer | |||
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"In what ways specifically has "PC gone too far"? and what changes can be made that would stop terrorist attacks? " For starters respect for sovereignty and life will slow it down.getting rid off the bankers and the 1 % who control the world and profit off war will stop it. Completely. | |||
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"Hating 1.8 Billion people, that must be exhausting.... Not really, they choose to be Muslim, just like Catholics choose to be Catholic or Hindus choose to be Hindu, I've got nothing against cows but seeing them as divine is pretty silly, often people who accidentally run over a cow in the road will be beaten unconscious by offended Hindus, I don't mind saying there fucking idiots following a crazy ideology, that's Hindus for yer" | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days
And calling Islam an evil ideology helps us fight terrorism by...?
(It certainly doesn't help us get moderate Muslims to report on radicalized people in their communities. It doesn't help stop young Muslims becoming radicalized in the first place.)
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"After the attack in manhattan he said it and I agree, who else thinks pc have gone to far?
What does not calling people "fag" or "nigger" or "spas" have to do with with a terrorist attack, and why do you want to use those terms?
Did the OP use those words? Oh no, wait a minute, you just did.
I don't think anyone really wants to use those terms these days.
However telling little girls that it is racist to dress up as Moana or the same to David Walliams for dressing up as Kim Wrong Un is PC gone way too far.That is right. I didnt say those words, for example, it is ok for anyone to mention that ira is a terrorist group and what is wrong with them , but mentioning is and islam you have to be political correct or there would be an outcry.
It's ok to talk about the IRA, but it's not ok to say they represent all Christians, in exactly the same way that Islamic State don't represent all muslims..
That's simpleton talk.
The IRA were NOT fighting bombing or killing for Catholicism.
Nothing they did was in the name of Catholicism, they didn't shout Jesus is great before setting a bomb off and they didn't use suicide bombing as a means to get to heaven
Islamic state aren't fighting for Islam either. Want to know who the majority of their victims are? It's not British policemen or Ariana Grande fans, its other Muslims. Islamic state is a political organisation fighting for territory that it can exert it's political control over. No different from other terrorist organisations. "Some very good points. time to look in to the banking system zionisam free masons skull and bones the all seeing eye the pyramids system.The blood lines Terror storm.Trade state craft. war machine blood diamond.Proxy wars Look at the big picture chase the money Who truly benifils from all the problems . | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days
And calling Islam an evil ideology helps us fight terrorism by...?
(It certainly doesn't help us get moderate Muslims to report on radicalized people in their communities. It doesn't help stop young Muslims becoming radicalized in the first place.)
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Ok let's say Nazism isn't that bad, it's just a little bit oooo , well say this just trying to get the slightly young, slightly keen willing to follow Nazis, you know, the ones who aren't really bad but we don't want the hard line fuckers to say.... Hey look at the West, they really hate Nazis, you should join us and kill them..
I mean what was I thinking, obviously I'll never get moderate Nazis on side.
Oh well, fuck em, I hate fucking Nazis and frankly I don't give a shit about offending them, I hate fucking Muslims as well and I really don't give two shits about offending them either"So, you don't have a single way that branding Islam evil or hating Muslims will help fight terrorism or indeed do anything productive. | |||
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"Still no specific examples of how being less PC would stop terrorist attacks.... Well it would help if we actually talked about what the problem was and why it's happening without treading on egg shells because 8% of our population are Muslim!. I don't think it's necessary to offend people who CHOOSE to practise the religion of Islam, however I think we should be able to point out some of the outdated and shit cultural practises that come along with it that really doesn't fit into 21st century European values..... In exactly the same way that were free to critique Catholicism and the Pope, were free to do West end musicals that poke fun at Jerry Springer being Jesus without being called Catholphobes every time we have a criticism of it But you are completely free to point out the specific aspects of Islam which are problematic. Who is stopping you? . Muslims, they keep actually killing or threatening to kill or worse still.... Claim there offended every time anybody says anything about Islam and especially Mohammed, whow betide anybody that thinks they can draw cartoons about that little rascal "To be fair a quite a few Christians got a bit annoyed when Monty Python did The Life of Brian. Could you imagine what would happen today if they did a remake set in 7th century Mecca?
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? " I don't think anyone wants to call all Muslims evil (ok maybe one or two) but that isn't really what it is all about. Maybe you would like it to be though. There was a debate on Sky News last night entitled "Justice for Jihadis" The liberal PC lobby seem to have some notion that these guys who ran off to Syria to cut off peoples heads and chuck gays off buildings can somehow be de-radicalised. Alex Crawford (bless her) interviewed a British former ISIS volunteer who is now banged up by the free Syrian army. He was blathering on about how naive he had been and how he spent most of his time playing his play station (cue violins) and didn't really hurt anybody and why he should be allowed to come home as if nothing had happened Etc Etc. As Alex Crawford herself pointed out when she was interviewed later, describing him as "shifty and evasive" he was obviously lying through his back teeth. So if political correctness allows this guy to return to the streets of Britain and then he commits or is involved in a terrorist attack. What then? For me I would be very politically incorrect and let him rot in Syria. In the sure knowledge that he won't be driving a truck over Westminster bridge any time soon. | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? I don't think anyone wants to call all Muslims evil (ok maybe one or two) but that isn't really what it is all about. Maybe you would like it to be though. There was a debate on Sky News last night entitled "Justice for Jihadis" The liberal PC lobby seem to have some notion that these guys who ran off to Syria to cut off peoples heads and chuck gays off buildings can somehow be de-radicalised. Alex Crawford (bless her) interviewed a British former ISIS volunteer who is now banged up by the free Syrian army. He was blathering on about how naive he had been and how he spent most of his time playing his play station (cue violins) and didn't really hurt anybody and why he should be allowed to come home as if nothing had happened Etc Etc. As Alex Crawford herself pointed out when she was interviewed later, describing him as "shifty and evasive" he was obviously lying through his back teeth. So if political correctness allows this guy to return to the streets of Britain and then he commits or is involved in a terrorist attack. What then? For me I would be very politically incorrect and let him rot in Syria. In the sure knowledge that he won't be driving a truck over Westminster bridge any time soon. " I don't want it to be about people calling Muslims evil. I'm asking how being less PC helps fight terrorism. So far I've had no answer. Now you're floating the idea that political correctness could see a jihadi brought back to the UK. But he hasn't come back to the UK, right? And is there any actual prospect of this happening? Who is asking for him to come back to Britain, other than himself? | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? I don't think anyone wants to call all Muslims evil (ok maybe one or two) but that isn't really what it is all about. Maybe you would like it to be though. There was a debate on Sky News last night entitled "Justice for Jihadis" The liberal PC lobby seem to have some notion that these guys who ran off to Syria to cut off peoples heads and chuck gays off buildings can somehow be de-radicalised. Alex Crawford (bless her) interviewed a British former ISIS volunteer who is now banged up by the free Syrian army. He was blathering on about how naive he had been and how he spent most of his time playing his play station (cue violins) and didn't really hurt anybody and why he should be allowed to come home as if nothing had happened Etc Etc. As Alex Crawford herself pointed out when she was interviewed later, describing him as "shifty and evasive" he was obviously lying through his back teeth. So if political correctness allows this guy to return to the streets of Britain and then he commits or is involved in a terrorist attack. What then? For me I would be very politically incorrect and let him rot in Syria. In the sure knowledge that he won't be driving a truck over Westminster bridge any time soon. I don't want it to be about people calling Muslims evil. I'm asking how being less PC helps fight terrorism. So far I've had no answer. Now you're floating the idea that political correctness could see a jihadi brought back to the UK. But he hasn't come back to the UK, right? And is there any actual prospect of this happening? Who is asking for him to come back to Britain, other than himself? " You would be surprised how much support these guys have. For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html Anyway, let's go for another example. Firstly all Muslims are NOT evil. Thought I'd get that out of the way first, although the history doesn't quite back up the notion that it is a religion of peace either. What Islam does have is a huge problem within its own ranks that really needs addressing from within. How they can do that? I don't really know but the usual finger pointing blaming the Americans, the Jews, the West in General will never be the answer. Neither will western politicians and journalists, walking on eggshells and so carefully choosing their words (Islamic/Islamist Etc) so as not to offend or upset anyone, provide an answer. Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html " But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. " . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. " Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? " Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics. | |||
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"? Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics." Right. So we've gone past two examples of PC being a problem that aren't really actual examples, and we're back to blaming all Muslims for the extremism of a minority. This idea that if we're only harder on Muslims it will somehow automatically make things better is so simplistic. Moderate Muslims *are* trying to "sort" the problem. There are Muslim anti-terror groups. They just don't get any publicity because it doesn't fit what people are interested in. Last month there was another march, which again didn't get much coverage, obviously: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-march-london-protest-isis-terrorism-ashura-islam-peaceful-demonstrators-a7980476.html | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead.
Old ground been over...ok how about the Neo-Nazi that ran over the woman in Charlottesville....is that better...never saw Trump calling for his execution either "It was an accident, his brakes failed, just an innocent mistake | |||
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"Oh but yeah but no but yeah but no but..... Muslims are brown, we let them off there stupid decisions because their a minority "Muslims are brown ....hmm right...you might wanna think on that one...same as all Christians and Catholics are not white | |||
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"See the thing is Trump has just called for death penalty for the "terrorist" that committed the awful crime in New York ...but not for the guy that committed the attack in Las Vegas....whys that do you all think...is that PC or not Bit of a problem with the death penalty for the Vegas shooter. Maybe you missed it but he's already dead.
Old ground been over...ok how about the Neo-Nazi that ran over the woman in Charlottesville....is that better...never saw Trump calling for his execution either
It was an accident, his brakes failed, just an innocent mistake"Poor white trash usually dont have the money for a good mechanics. I can relate. | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease" Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? | |||
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"The irony for the neo liberals is thanks to the pc culture they've developed they now have the symptoms of brexit and trump... Way to go "Thats a positive thing you have to experience the alternative to know what you want and whats best . | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? " . Not banned, turned into a wishy-washy load of shit that nobody takes seriously....a bit like the CofE .
Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? . Not banned, turned into a wishy-washy load of shit that nobody takes seriously....a bit like the CofE .
Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
They need adverts on the mosques, when the fun stops, stop"My problem actually is, apparently, expecting anti-PC people to have anything of substance to say, any actual specific suggestions on how being less PC will reduce terrorism. | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? . Not banned, turned into a wishy-washy load of shit that nobody takes seriously....a bit like the CofE .
Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
They need adverts on the mosques, when the fun stops, stop
My problem actually is, apparently, expecting anti-PC people to have anything of substance to say, any actual specific suggestions on how being less PC will reduce terrorism.
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? . Not banned, turned into a wishy-washy load of shit that nobody takes seriously....a bit like the CofE .
Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
They need adverts on the mosques, when the fun stops, stop
My problem actually is, apparently, expecting anti-PC people to have anything of substance to say, any actual specific suggestions on how being less PC will reduce terrorism.
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Start with mandatory signs on the mosque door, if you've got more than six sheets in your house your taking this pastime to seriously, try crown green bowling instead"That was well worth waiting for, thank you so much. | |||
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Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
They need adverts on the mosques, when the fun stops, stop
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Your problem is your mistaken about extremism and only think it's about terrorism, if you find yourself having to go to the mosque church or synagogue five times a day, if you think the crackers your eating will turn into the body of Christ or the cow is the goddess of the earth, if you think you really need to throw a sheet over your wife or refuse to eat pigs coz there filthy, if you think the 7th century warlord murderer and child marrier is the perfect human created..... Your taking it to seriously.
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Start with mandatory signs on the mosque door, if you've got more than six sheets in your house your taking this pastime to seriously, try crown green bowling instead Signs dont stop stupid people.Ever put up a wet paint sign its like cat nip for the inquisitive. ". Sadly your never going to stop everybody from believing in some load of bollocks, let's take brexit for instance, if somebody really really believes in it and ridiculing it would upset them!! What do you do | |||
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"Don't get me wrong I've never been killed by a Nazi either but I'm still against Nazism , I'm sure there was some good Nazis who committed no crimes and generally went about their day but I wouldn't feel bad about offending them by saying Nazism is a pretty shit ideology So no ways to combat terrorism, other than you want to be able to say that all Muslims are evil? . Obviously ALL Muslims aren't evil, just some of them. However they are ALL following a medieval, evil ideology which is where the main elements of the killing comes from like beheading and setting on fire and suchlike...I mean who beheads these days
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Your hate of America shines through like an Isis member, personally I think your a nice guy living with a shit ideology based on bullshit.... No different than any other religious idiot"Apart from it does not ? I'm no fan of any human who randomly kills another for almost any cause I generally defend all humans from a judgmental mindset thus to suggest I whole scale hate any large group based upon something as meaningless as location me birth , skin colour , accent , hair colour or indeed religion is wrong and defamatory I await your sincere apology for projecting a falsehood x I do not like any group who promote hate or superiority between other humans and I disagree with philosophies , ideologies or parts of religions which promote , homophobia sexism or conflict Tsk | |||
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"As an atheist I don't greatly differentiate between the Abrahamic religions they are all based upon a bronze age blood cult However I generally don't make sweeping statements about any who claim to believe or follow any of them , as each individual will have interpreted the text differently and have their own values overlayed Most who follow the above religions are split into a vast number of idiosyncratic schisms who's views and adherence vary considerably However objectively most followers are good people who just want to live life There are a small number of humans who follow a number of differing ideologies who are dark me heart and want to inflict pain , death and suffering to others not me their mind set . To assess which human may fall into this category is not possible by crude sweeping geographic racial or other blunt means x" . Which follower is more likely to be a problematic fundamentalist.. A Wahhabist Muslim or a jainist? | |||
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"As an atheist I don't greatly differentiate between the Abrahamic religions they are all based upon a bronze age blood cult However I generally don't make sweeping statements about any who claim to believe or follow any of them , as each individual will have interpreted the text differently and have their own values overlayed Most who follow the above religions are split into a vast number of idiosyncratic schisms who's views and adherence vary considerably However objectively most followers are good people who just want to live life There are a small number of humans who follow a number of differing ideologies who are dark me heart and want to inflict pain , death and suffering to others not me their mind set . To assess which human may fall into this category is not possible by crude sweeping geographic racial or other blunt means x. Which follower is more likely to be a problematic fundamentalist.. A Wahhabist Muslim or a jainist?" I assume you realise that is a pointless rhetorical question | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan" And the way to combat this is...silly signs in Mosques. | |||
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"Start with the kids and ban all forms of religous schooling.If you want your kids to get a religous education pick a different country.End the religous apartheid thats going on in the education system its indoctrination." A good idea! From someone who doesn't whine about "PC gone mad". Funny, that. | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan And the way to combat this is...silly signs in Mosques. " . The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan" I'm certain you think that's a compelling reason to be pissing ourselves in terror at the scary brown people, but the truth of it is that like any group of people, the majority of muslims are perfectly fine people and just want to get on with their life. Preferably without being made to account for what people they've nothing but a religion in common with have done. Y'know, the same courtesy that's extended to everyone else. | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan I'm certain you think that's a compelling reason to be pissing ourselves in terror at the scary brown people, but the truth of it is that like any group of people, the majority of muslims are perfectly fine people and just want to get on with their life. Preferably without being made to account for what people they've nothing but a religion in common with have done. Y'know, the same courtesy that's extended to everyone else." . The vast majority of Nazis just wanted to get on with living like Nazis in peace, they had nothing in common except their Nazi ideology to delude yourself that liberal Nazis are somehow going to control the hard-line Nazis is like you've been brainwashed of history. So I'll say again who won control of Iran the liberal just want to live in peace Muslims or the ones who want to throw you off a roof | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan I'm certain you think that's a compelling reason to be pissing ourselves in terror at the scary brown people, but the truth of it is that like any group of people, the majority of muslims are perfectly fine people and just want to get on with their life. Preferably without being made to account for what people they've nothing but a religion in common with have done. Y'know, the same courtesy that's extended to everyone else.. The vast majority of Nazis just wanted to get on with living like Nazis in peace, they had nothing in common except their Nazi ideology to delude yourself that liberal Nazis are somehow going to control the hard-line Nazis is like you've been brainwashed of history. So I'll say again who won control of Iran the liberal just want to live in peace Muslims or the ones who want to throw you off a roof" Is this really the best you could do? | |||
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"No comment back then about all Muslims are brown people then ? ". That was the context of neo liberals not wanting to offend them. Im absolutely convinced they wouldn't mind offending white male Muslims | |||
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That was the context of neo liberals not wanting to offend them.
Im absolutely convinced they wouldn't mind offending white male Muslims "What does Neo-liberalism have to do with any of this? | |||
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That was the context of neo liberals not wanting to offend them.
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"No, I mean, neo liberalism has to do with a school of economic thought. Seriously. What the fuck do you even imagine you're talking about? " . There cry baby economics has infected their entire brains | |||
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"No, I mean, neo liberalism has to do with a school of economic thought. Seriously. What the fuck do you even imagine you're talking about? . There cry baby economics has infected their entire brains "Yeah, I reckoned you had no idea what you were talking about. Thank you for demonstrating that beyond a shadow of a doubt. | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? " Absolutely not. But that is what you would like us to say so you can play the Islamophobe/Race card and shut down the debate. This is a debate that we all should be having, Muslims included, but until the PC liberals stop calling everyone who criticises Islam a Muslim hater it will never happen. Sad but all too true. | |||
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"The liberals are in some sort of self induced denial process... These fuckers will throw you off the roof right after the gay folk and don't be fooled by the "most of them are nice and want to get on with their life routine". Take a look how that worked out in Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan I'm certain you think that's a compelling reason to be pissing ourselves in terror at the scary brown people, but the truth of it is that like any group of people, the majority of muslims are perfectly fine people and just want to get on with their life. Preferably without being made to account for what people they've nothing but a religion in common with have done. Y'know, the same courtesy that's extended to everyone else.. The vast majority of Nazis just wanted to get on with living like Nazis in peace, they had nothing in common except their Nazi ideology to delude yourself that liberal Nazis are somehow going to control the hard-line Nazis is like you've been brainwashed of history. So I'll say again who won control of Iran the liberal just want to live in peace Muslims or the ones who want to throw you off a roof" Still banging on with the Nazi analogy, eh? If you really think Muslims are the equivalents of Nazis, why don't you want to do more than just put up signs? If I thought I was living and working alongside millions of Nazis in this country, I'd want to do something serious about it. | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? Absolutely not. But that is what you would like us to say so you can play the Islamophobe/Race card and shut down the debate. This is a debate that we all should be having, Muslims included, but until the PC liberals stop calling everyone who criticises Islam a Muslim hater it will never happen. Sad but all too true." Then tell me what you want to happen. I've been asking over and over in this thread what Anti-PC people want to see. That's the opposite of shutting down debate. All I've got so far is "put up critical signs in Mosques". Got anything better? | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? Absolutely not. But that is what you would like us to say so you can play the Islamophobe/Race card and shut down the debate. This is a debate that we all should be having, Muslims included, but until the PC liberals stop calling everyone who criticises Islam a Muslim hater it will never happen. Sad but all too true. Then tell me what you want to happen. I've been asking over and over in this thread what Anti-PC people want to see. That's the opposite of shutting down debate. All I've got so far is "put up critical signs in Mosques". Got anything better? " I was hoping for something a bit more radical than a sign saying. "Just say no to Jihad" | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? Absolutely not. But that is what you would like us to say so you can play the Islamophobe/Race card and shut down the debate. This is a debate that we all should be having, Muslims included, but until the PC liberals stop calling everyone who criticises Islam a Muslim hater it will never happen. Sad but all too true. Then tell me what you want to happen. I've been asking over and over in this thread what Anti-PC people want to see. That's the opposite of shutting down debate. All I've got so far is "put up critical signs in Mosques". Got anything better? " I've got plenty of better ideas. The first one would be like an Alcoholic at an AA meeting who stands up and says "My name is John and I'm an alcoholic". Until he accepts that he has a problem then nothing can be done. Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. You are good at asking what our solutions would be, what about yours? Or do you just think that bumbling on as we are and accepting a few casualties is all fine and dandy? | |||
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease Another post with no specifics. What do you want to happen? Islam to be banned in the UK? All Muslims deported? Absolutely not. But that is what you would like us to say so you can play the Islamophobe/Race card and shut down the debate. This is a debate that we all should be having, Muslims included, but until the PC liberals stop calling everyone who criticises Islam a Muslim hater it will never happen. Sad but all too true. Then tell me what you want to happen. I've been asking over and over in this thread what Anti-PC people want to see. That's the opposite of shutting down debate. All I've got so far is "put up critical signs in Mosques". Got anything better? I was hoping for something a bit more radical than a sign saying. "Just say no to Jihad" " . When the fun stops, stop! | |||
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" Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. " I'm not sure what having people who've done nothing wrong say something that would do nothing but confirm your biases would achieve. | |||
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"? I've got plenty of better ideas. The first one would be like an Alcoholic at an AA meeting who stands up and says "My name is John and I'm an alcoholic". Until he accepts that he has a problem then nothing can be done. Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. You are good at asking what our solutions would be, what about yours? Or do you just think that bumbling on as we are and accepting a few casualties is all fine and dandy? " If you've got plenty of better ideas, why do you only give one? And how does demanding Muslims all confess to having some kind of religion problem actually help anyone, in real practical terms? And I'm not trying to offer solutions here, the topic was how being less PC will help fight terrorism. But nice attempt at a distraction from the shallowness of the 'we need to be less PC!' position. | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics." Did we say that to Catholics during the IRA? | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics. Did we say that to Catholics during the IRA? " . I must have missed that bit where Mick ran in shouting Jesus is great before blowing himself up in a desperate attempt to get to heaven because his life's been a Catholic failure | |||
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"? I've got plenty of better ideas. The first one would be like an Alcoholic at an AA meeting who stands up and says "My name is John and I'm an alcoholic". Until he accepts that he has a problem then nothing can be done. Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. You are good at asking what our solutions would be, what about yours? Or do you just think that bumbling on as we are and accepting a few casualties is all fine and dandy? If you've got plenty of better ideas, why do you only give one? And how does demanding Muslims all confess to having some kind of religion problem actually help anyone, in real practical terms? And I'm not trying to offer solutions here, the topic was how being less PC will help fight terrorism. But nice attempt at a distraction from the shallowness of the 'we need to be less PC!' position. " So I will take it that you are quite happy to bumble on and accept the casualties. Let's hope that one day you are not one of them. | |||
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"? I've got plenty of better ideas. The first one would be like an Alcoholic at an AA meeting who stands up and says "My name is John and I'm an alcoholic". Until he accepts that he has a problem then nothing can be done. Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. You are good at asking what our solutions would be, what about yours? Or do you just think that bumbling on as we are and accepting a few casualties is all fine and dandy? If you've got plenty of better ideas, why do you only give one? And how does demanding Muslims all confess to having some kind of religion problem actually help anyone, in real practical terms? And I'm not trying to offer solutions here, the topic was how being less PC will help fight terrorism. But nice attempt at a distraction from the shallowness of the 'we need to be less PC!' position. So I will take it that you are quite happy to bumble on and accept the casualties. Let's hope that one day you are not one of them." I note that you fail to even try to answer my question as to how your suggestion actually helps. Nice attempt at a distraction. Again. Seriously, are you proud of that response? | |||
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"? I've got plenty of better ideas. The first one would be like an Alcoholic at an AA meeting who stands up and says "My name is John and I'm an alcoholic". Until he accepts that he has a problem then nothing can be done. Until the vast majority of Muslims stand up and say "I'm a Muslim and my religion has a problem" then the same thing would apply. Not a giant leap by any standard, but it would be a start. You are good at asking what our solutions would be, what about yours? Or do you just think that bumbling on as we are and accepting a few casualties is all fine and dandy? If you've got plenty of better ideas, why do you only give one? And how does demanding Muslims all confess to having some kind of religion problem actually help anyone, in real practical terms? And I'm not trying to offer solutions here, the topic was how being less PC will help fight terrorism. But nice attempt at a distraction from the shallowness of the 'we need to be less PC!' position. So I will take it that you are quite happy to bumble on and accept the casualties. Let's hope that one day you are not one of them." The odds are good. In 2017 the odds of being killed by a terrorist are 1 in 2.2 million. | |||
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"Wait no...I also want to say, shame on you fucking liberals letting this wicked evil child abuse continue, children should never have their heads filled with this utter Claptrap. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem .
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"The minute you start taking religion seriously where it becomes your life, your an extremist... Sure you've not actually hacked people's heads off but you don't really think bad of people who do it for the "cause". The media used to use the word fundamentalist but they quietly dropped that for "extremists" or "radicalism". Pc culture means there now only good at tackling the symptoms like the EDL or neo Nazis, hate crime, we'll probably continue trying to tackle the symptoms because nobody wants to tackle the disease" Obviously you are not an extremist in any way. No sirree you live and let live don't you... | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics. Did we say that to Catholics during the IRA? . I must have missed that bit where Mick ran in shouting Jesus is great before blowing himself up in a desperate attempt to get to heaven because his life's been a Catholic failure "How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles' | |||
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" For a start you could take a look here. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html But that's not "political correctness". That's a deliberate strategy to try and fight radicalization. The article says that terror experts think the measures are 'long overdue'. Are these terror experts just speaking out of political correctness? A person can argue whether the approach will work or not, but it's not being done just out of a desire to be PC. . Like it or not some hard truths need to be told and political correctness is the sworn enemy of that truth. Hard truths like what? Why is it so hard for people to speak specifically? Hard truths like "your religion has a problem" Sort it, or at least try to. Something you very rarely, if ever, hear from anyone in mainstream politics. Did we say that to Catholics during the IRA? . I must have missed that bit where Mick ran in shouting Jesus is great before blowing himself up in a desperate attempt to get to heaven because his life's been a Catholic failure
How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles'". There was plenty of protestants who wanted independence and plenty of Catholics who didn't, that's still the case | |||
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" How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles'" In answer to your first question, there was a few. Hindus, Jews and Muslims were rare as hens teeth in Northern Ireland. Religion was an excuse not a cause. I would have see more as an ethno-nationalist issue But to address the original proposal. The US constitution has proven to be sufficient so far. This is just political opportunism on the part of Mr Trump. Anybody remember the Birmingham 6 or the Guildford 4? | |||
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"Religion was an excuse not a cause." And in that regard, nothing has changed. | |||
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" How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles' In answer to your first question, there was a few. Hindus, Jews and Muslims were rare as hens teeth in Northern Ireland. Religion was an excuse not a cause. I would have see more as an ethno-nationalist issue But to address the original proposal. The US constitution has proven to be sufficient so far. This is just political opportunism on the part of Mr Trump. Anybody remember the Birmingham 6 or the Guildford 4? " Religion is an excuse not a cause for Islamic state as well. A Muslim killing another Muslim is not done for the betterment of the Muslim faith. | |||
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" How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles' In answer to your first question, there was a few. Hindus, Jews and Muslims were rare as hens teeth in Northern Ireland. Religion was an excuse not a cause. I would have see more as an ethno-nationalist issue But to address the original proposal. The US constitution has proven to be sufficient so far. This is just political opportunism on the part of Mr Trump. Anybody remember the Birmingham 6 or the Guildford 4? Religion is an excuse not a cause for Islamic state as well. A Muslim killing another Muslim is not done for the betterment of the Muslim faith." . No it's for the betterment of the individual who acts how they think their religion wants them to and basically There's alot of stuff in the Quran and hadiths that would make them think that way!. | |||
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" How many protestants were members of the IRA? How many Hindus, or Jews, or Muslims were in the IRA? No one with more than 2 brain cells denies there was a religious element to 'the troubles' In answer to your first question, there was a few. Hindus, Jews and Muslims were rare as hens teeth in Northern Ireland. Religion was an excuse not a cause. I would have see more as an ethno-nationalist issue But to address the original proposal. The US constitution has proven to be sufficient so far. This is just political opportunism on the part of Mr Trump. Anybody remember the Birmingham 6 or the Guildford 4? Religion is an excuse not a cause for Islamic state as well. A Muslim killing another Muslim is not done for the betterment of the Muslim faith.. No it's for the betterment of the individual who acts how they think their religion wants them to and basically There's alot of stuff in the Quran and hadiths that would make them think that way!. " People are very good at justifying their thoughts and actions to themselves...we're benevolent and malevolent. There's no cure for humanity. The disease keeps the politics forum filled with new threads on ideas as old as our existence and new people suffer for these old ideas. We're doomed. At least we have swinging! | |||
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