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By *ercury OP   Man
over a year ago

Grantham

In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union! "

So the EU has pissed off yet another group of people, no surprise there. Good news for the English Bridge union is that we are leaving the EU. Once we are out the case can be ruled on by the British Supreme court (which will be the highest court in the land after Brexit and rulings made by British judges). Our government will also be free to give the English Bridge union what ever tax breaks it sees fit.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union!

So the EU has pissed off yet another group of people, no surprise there. Good news for the English Bridge union is that we are leaving the EU. Once we are out the case can be ruled on by the British Supreme court (which will be the highest court in the land after Brexit and rulings made by British judges). Our government will also be free to give the English Bridge union what ever tax breaks it sees fit. "

Actually Centaur, the ECJ have supported a British ruling that also said that Bridge isn't a sport!

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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago

Driffield

I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport. "

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union!

So the EU has pissed off yet another group of people, no surprise there. Good news for the English Bridge union is that we are leaving the EU. Once we are out the case can be ruled on by the British Supreme court (which will be the highest court in the land after Brexit and rulings made by British judges). Our government will also be free to give the English Bridge union what ever tax breaks it sees fit.

Actually Centaur, the ECJ have supported a British ruling that also said that Bridge isn't a sport! "

DOH!!!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union!

So the EU has pissed off yet another group of people, no surprise there. Good news for the English Bridge union is that we are leaving the EU. Once we are out the case can be ruled on by the British Supreme court (which will be the highest court in the land after Brexit and rulings made by British judges). Our government will also be free to give the English Bridge union what ever tax breaks it sees fit.

Actually Centaur, the ECJ have supported a British ruling that also said that Bridge isn't a sport! "

The British Supreme court have never ruled on this case.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either! "

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread. "

It's not a constitutional issue

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread.

It's not a constitutional issue"

If they don't accept the high Court ruling they have right to appeal. Currently they can appeal to the ECJ while we remain a member of the EU but after Brexit when the ECJ option is taken away many cases maybe going to appeal at the Supreme court after ruling at the high Court even those cases that are not constitutional.

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By *ercury OP   Man
over a year ago

Grantham

Whoa! This was a light-hearted posting, or was supposed to be.

I'm sure the Bridge teams of Frimley or Eastbourne aren't losing much sleep over this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what have the scotish bridge union, the northern ireland bridge union and the welsh bridge union got to say about sport englands stance against bridge being a sport .... will they take sport england to court too? or will they take it up with uksport instead? why did the EBU take it up with sport england and not uksport? will the ecj's ruling, which allows for individual states to make the card game exempt from vat, see the tory government make bridge vat exempt in england? will they make it vat exempt in scotland? will they make it vat exempt in northern ireland? will they make it vat exempt in wales? does anyone here give a flying fuck? so many unanswered questions!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread.

It's not a constitutional issue

If they don't accept the high Court ruling they have right to appeal. Currently they can appeal to the ECJ while we remain a member of the EU but after Brexit when the ECJ option is taken away many cases maybe going to appeal at the Supreme court after ruling at the high Court even those cases that are not constitutional. "

Says who?

If I get a speeding ticket, you think I will be allowed to take it to the supreme court?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Whoa! This was a light-hearted posting, or was supposed to be.

I'm sure the Bridge teams of Frimley or Eastbourne aren't losing much sleep over this."

To some people the very mention of the ECJ can turn them into a rabid frenzy.

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By *ercury OP   Man
over a year ago

Grantham


"Whoa! This was a light-hearted posting, or was supposed to be.

I'm sure the Bridge teams of Frimley or Eastbourne aren't losing much sleep over this.

To some people the very mention of the ECJ can turn them into a rabid frenzy. "

I do wonder how much the original case and subsequent appeal cost?

Could have asked a few people in the pub..."is Bridge a sport or a game?" and got the same answer in a few seconds!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

From the Supreme Court website.

"The Supreme Court is the final court of appeal in the UK for civil cases, and for criminal cases from England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It hears cases of the greatest public or constitutional importance affecting the whole population"

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"In a landmark case, the ECJ has ruled that the card game Bridge, is not a sport!

This rules out any potential tax savings for the English Bridge Union! "
What a load of sad bastards have they got nothing better to do than make rules on card games and people want to be in this club!!!It is so pathetic when there are so many major problems in this world it is so depressing.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Whoa! This was a light-hearted posting, or was supposed to be.

I'm sure the Bridge teams of Frimley or Eastbourne aren't losing much sleep over this.

To some people the very mention of the ECJ can turn them into a rabid frenzy.

I do wonder how much the original case and subsequent appeal cost?

Could have asked a few people in the pub..."is Bridge a sport or a game?" and got the same answer in a few seconds! "

I'm sure the same thing was said about Darts for many, many years but now there is increasing pressure to have Darts as a sport at the Olympics. There has been increasing pressure from high profile Darts players to have Darts recognised as an Olympic sport and the international Olympic committee has said that it maybe now considered to be included in the Olympics beyond the year 2024. I'm sure all those people who have campaigned and spent money raising awareness for this wouldn't consider it a waste of time or money if they do get it recognised as an Olympic sport beyond 2024 it will all have been worthwhile to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" What a load of sad bastards have they got nothing better to do than make rules on card games and people want to be in this club!!!It is so pathetic when there are so many major problems in this world it is so depressing."

agreed .... why did these bridge playing idiots waste valuable court time with this ludicrously insignificant rubbish just to worm out of paying a few quid in vat? .... outrageous!!! outrageous i tell you!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport. "

Same ones who are trying to get pole dancing into the olympics?

Or what about snooker? Darts? Aren't they just pub games?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

Same ones who are trying to get pole dancing into the olympics?

Or what about snooker? Darts? Aren't they just pub games?"

Surely swinging is more physical than bridge. I want to see swinging in the olympics

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

Same ones who are trying to get pole dancing into the olympics?

Or what about snooker? Darts? Aren't they just pub games?

Surely swinging is more physical than bridge. I want to see swinging in the olympics "

Do you think Team GB would be medal contenders in that one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

anorak lol

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots


"Whoa! This was a light-hearted posting, or was supposed to be.

I'm sure the Bridge teams of Frimley or Eastbourne aren't losing much sleep over this."

No such thing as a light hearted posting over here

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By *ercury OP   Man
over a year ago

Grantham

I believe that each host nation of the Olympic games can include a new sport in the programme.

Japan has decided on "surfing" for the 2020 games, although I take this to be riding a wave on an ironing board, rather than surfing the net....although you can never be too sure!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"anorak lol "

thank you....... sports funding is one of those issues that is near and dear to me.... sport england are fine but uk sport can be ruthless!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm sure the same thing was said about Darts for many, many years but now there is increasing pressure to have Darts as a sport at the Olympics. There has been increasing pressure from high profile Darts players to have Darts recognised as an Olympic sport and the international Olympic committee has said that it maybe now considered to be included in the Olympics beyond the year 2024. I'm sure all those people who have campaigned and spent money raising awareness for this wouldn't consider it a waste of time or money if they do get it recognised as an Olympic sport beyond 2024 it will all have been worthwhile to them. "

To be fair although darts is a very 'low activity' sort of pastime, it does require hand eye coordination and an ability to consistently hit small targets from a distance. Whereas competition bridge is totally sedentary with the only physical exertion being picking up a pre-dealt hand and laying down cards in turn.

Just saying

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By *zamiWoman
over a year ago

LONDON


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport. "

Bridge is not a sport!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bridge is not a sport! "

.... and that's a legal fact which both the british and european judicary are in absolute agreement on

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Bridge is not a sport!

.... and that's a legal fact which both the british and european judicary are in absolute agreement on "

But some people think that we should automatically declare the opposite decision of whatever the Europeans have ruled.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread.

It's not a constitutional issue

If they don't accept the high Court ruling they have right to appeal. Currently they can appeal to the ECJ while we remain a member of the EU but after Brexit when the ECJ option is taken away many cases maybe going to appeal at the Supreme court after ruling at the high Court even those cases that are not constitutional. "

Wait, I’m confused now, isn’t the Supreme Court the one full of traitors and enemies of the people? Or have you forgiven them for doing their job now?

-Matt

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread.

It's not a constitutional issue

If they don't accept the high Court ruling they have right to appeal. Currently they can appeal to the ECJ while we remain a member of the EU but after Brexit when the ECJ option is taken away many cases maybe going to appeal at the Supreme court after ruling at the high Court even those cases that are not constitutional.

Wait, I’m confused now, isn’t the Supreme Court the one full of traitors and enemies of the people? Or have you forgiven them for doing their job now?

-Matt"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bridge is not a sport!

.... and that's a legal fact which both the british and european judicary are in absolute agreement on

But some people think that we should automatically declare the opposite decision of whatever the Europeans have ruled. "

Even if they TOTALLY AGREE with a ruling by our courts? Or are you saying our courts should then change their mind just to go against the ECJ?

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"I wonder how much that little debacle cost, and what idiots thought that bridge was a sport.

The English Bridge Union argued that it was a sport. Sports England said it wasn't, the High Court in England says it wasn't, the European Court of Justice says it isn't a sport, but Centaur hates the ECJ so much that he thinks it should be a sport just to spite them Centaur doesn't like Sports England ruling on it, he doesn't like the English High Court ruling on it either!

So you admit here the British Supreme court have never ruled on this case. As you say it's only been ruled on at the high Court. After Brexit they can take this case to the British Supreme court and see what they decide as I stated in my original post on this thread. "

Centaur theres no way the Supreme Court is going to hear this, thats why the case went to the ECJ instead in the first place. Your posts here are just getting embarrassing these days!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Bridge is not a sport!

.... and that's a legal fact which both the british and european judicary are in absolute agreement on

But some people think that we should automatically declare the opposite decision of whatever the Europeans have ruled.

Even if they TOTALLY AGREE with a ruling by our courts? Or are you saying our courts should then change their mind just to go against the ECJ?"

Yes, look at Centaur's post, he thinks this should be looked at again, by a different court, even though the ECJ has upheld the ruling by the British High Court. No, I dont think our courts should change their mind, nothing has materially changed in the case.

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