FabSwingers.com forum: Nationality

By *candium OP Woman
over a year ago

oban

I was thinking last night about why I am happy to be british rather, despite being born, bred and living in scotland. For me i wonder if its about dislike and disdain for being associated with my image of scotland. I would rather be seen as a British lady than a Scottish cow.

How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I'm British.

My parents were Irish (Dublin and Cork/Kerry border) I was born in Manchester and educated in UK and Ireland. I know I am not English, I am not Irish and have been told by many Irish I am English.

I am British and proud of it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

European first English second.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"European first English second.

Soon you will just be English...

29/3/19...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

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By *candium OP Woman
over a year ago

oban

"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

Why that order? Do you just feel more swedish? Or did you make a conscious choice?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

Why that order? Do you just feel more swedish? Or did you make a conscious choice?"
Not sure, but yes, as I feel more swedish and grew up there. I mostly visited germany on holiday, so didnt spend so much time there, although stuttgart is a nice place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

Half German half Brit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

Half German half Brit "
Nice one, where abouts in germany are you from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first

Half German half Brit Nice one, where abouts in germany are you from?"

British born German family now mainly in Rhur area. However my mother was born in Prussia now Poland which is complicating "Plan B".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm British.

My parents were Irish (Dublin and Cork/Kerry border) I was born in Manchester and educated in UK and Ireland. I know I am not English, I am not Irish and have been told by many Irish I am English.

I am British and proud of it!"
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Similar only I was born in Ireland just on the border, n Irish/Irish parents but raised in Manchester, lived all over Britain but I'll always consider myself Mancunian first, English second, British third

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

English first, British 2nd and European last.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

English British

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"English British "

Human , kind and empathic

Beyond that is needless tribal labelling

I feel it is sad that so many cannot form their own identity and need to adopt what will always be a backwards position of the default clichie that is attributed to their arbitrary place me birth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"English British

Human , kind and empathic

Beyond that is needless tribal labelling

I feel it is sad that so many cannot form their own identity and need to adopt what will always be a backwards position of the default clichie that is attributed to their arbitrary place me birth

True. I should of put earthling but my cultural programming kicked in..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm part of the Yorkshireman master race, soon we will split ourselves from the degenerate UK and reestablish ourselves as the Kingdom of Jorvik.

I all seriousness I'm conflicted, I was born in the UK but I'm part Norwegian, I feel at home in the UK but I'm happier in Norway.

I refer to myself as British usually, but idk, there is part of me which feels, not entirely British, though this disappears in some social circles as 'Scandinavian approaches' to daily life seem to be growing in the UK. So I'm not sure if it is a social thing, or a lifestyle thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't help but feel that if we all called ourselves earthlings, quite a few problems in the world would likely dissappear.

Wishful thinking I suppose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes a one world government is surely the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes a one world government is surely the answer

Its inevitable .However the "answer" lies in the stars.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Changed my mind lol I'm a teesider northerner English and British lol

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I recognize my personality as distinct from artificial constructions such as nation states. Boundaries diminish, so I'd prefer to link my identity to my personal limitations. I'm human.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nationality doesn't define anyone. If you want to be called British that's up to you and people should respect that. Flags are only symbols for "sybolmtons" (George Carlin). "Being born in a stable," the Duke of Wellington is supposed to have said, "does not make one a horse." Wellington, so the story goes, was rejecting the idea that the accident of his birth (in Ireland) would make him Irish. The point here is, we all eventually become what we perceive ourselves to be.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Nationality doesn't define anyone. If you want to be called British that's up to you and people should respect that. Flags are only symbols for "sybolmtons" (George Carlin). "Being born in a stable," the Duke of Wellington is supposed to have said, "does not make one a horse." Wellington, so the story goes, was rejecting the idea that the accident of his birth (in Ireland) would make him Irish. The point here is, we all eventually become what we perceive ourselves to be. "

I would not agree with all of that, but certainly agree that we all eventually find where we belong provided we have the opportunity. The problem is that regardless of where we are born our early years are moulded in what ever way our parents choose for us, and that can change the whole course of our lives.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Changed my mind lol I'm a teesider northerner English and British lol"

And what exactly does giving yourself that fine number of relatively meaningless labels achieve ? Apart from giving the ignorant who like to stereotype data to abuse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soon Be American when we the UK are adopted as the 51st state

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By *estless nativeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

100% Weegie

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By *i_garyMan
over a year ago

glasgow

That's all well and good but if someone gets into bother abroad you can guarantee they'll be looking for assistance from their local embassy, no matter who they perceive themselves to be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a proud New Yorker. I choose that nationality over "American" because it describes me and my personality better.

I like the idea of just being "human" but I do see a benefit in recognizing differences for the purpose of benefiting everyone (not for the purpose of discriminating).

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Changed my mind lol I'm a teesider northerner English and British lol

And what exactly does giving yourself that fine number of relatively meaningless labels achieve ? Apart from giving the ignorant who like to stereotype data to abuse?

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it achieves nothing it's just how I feel it's a light hearted comment keep your knickers on mate ffs

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

British first, English second.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british"

Have you got a Scottish passport?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport? "

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself"

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why"

Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done. "

My passport used to say 'Government Service'

Guaranteed I would be followed in many countries and refused entry to more! Of course there were son#me that the British Government refused me permission to visit... LoL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it? "

Nope its only a document

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

Nope its only a document

And a passport proves who you are, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

Nope its only a document

And a passport proves who you are, right? "

It gives my name and dob

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"I was thinking last night about why I am happy to be british rather, despite being born, bred and living in scotland. For me i wonder if its about dislike and disdain for being associated with my image of scotland. I would rather be seen as a British lady than a Scottish cow.

How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?"
I am British and proud of it

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it? "

British ones will soon have "European union" removed from the front!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

I consider myself to be British, English and European, in that order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was born in the states and moved here as a child, I am definitely British!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it? "

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

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By *mynclMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Geordie first then British Asain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc. "

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain""

What is your definition of a country?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Gibraltarian British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country? "

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY! "

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Your post is extremely contradictory.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality."

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.

Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

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over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me! "

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France. "

I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I was taught at school that England and Scotland were Kingdoms, Wales was a Principality, and Northern Ireland was a region.....but that was in the 1970s and certainly before the rise of Nationalism.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

So what is your definition of a country then?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

CLCC would start an argument in an empty house then sticks a question on the end if someone describes themselves as Scottish and not British wots it got to do with you lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"CLCC would start an argument in an empty house then sticks a question on the end if someone describes themselves as Scottish and not British wots it got to do with you lol"

be nice now, you have to remember its the only life he has living online

but yes, true.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"CLCC would start an argument in an empty house then sticks a question on the end if someone describes themselves as Scottish and not British wots it got to do with you lol

be nice now, you have to remember its the only life he has living online

but yes, true."

Dont lie, I'm about to go to Morrison's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the UK is a very good country what is Britain?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

So what is your definition of a country then?"

My definition of a country? I don't have one as I, mostly, don't really care for borders and their politics. I was just telling you what I was taught and that I am pretty amazed that one guys response to a forum question got you that miffed

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

So what is your definition of a country then?

It hasn't got me miffed, this is just how threads go in the politics forum.

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Technically, Wales is a Principality.

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.

How about on the WTO? Nah.

Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.

How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!

Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.

You are correct the United Kingdom is made up of 4 Countries

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Anyone got the balls to define what a country is?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

A country is a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"A country is a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

So England isn't a country?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom.

CLCC you are just being silly and I will not reply to idiots.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom.

CLCC you are just being silly and I will not reply to idiots.

It was your definition! You said

"A country is a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory". England does not have its own government, therefore England does not meet your definition of a country.

Maybe someone else would like to put forward their definition?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Are you stupid CLCC England is part of the United Kingdom of which Parliament is government idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going to guess a geographical political enitity recognized by the UN and by CLCC.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm going to guess a geographical political enitity recognized by the UN and by CLCC.

You see, now that's the kind of definition I can support!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Are you stupid CLCC England is part of the United Kingdom of which Parliament is government idiot."

Yes, it's part of the UK, and the UK is the country, not England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the UK is a very good country what is Britain? "

Bloody auto cawrong

I meant if the UK is a country what is Britain?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"I'm going to guess a geographical political enitity recognized by the UN and by CLCC.

Google "what is a country" for the answer.

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

The UK is a group of 4 countries not one.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"The UK is a group of 4 countries not one.

So it has 4 seats at the UN?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Countries that are not part of the UN are not countries, everyone knows that

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Countries that are not part of the UN are not countries, everyone knows that

What's your definition of a country?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag. "

Like California ?

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By *issing in actionWoman
over a year ago

Llanelli

You can define a country however you choose, it just is a fact that 4 countries make up the UK - Google it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag.

Like California ?"
No like Cornwall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can define a country however you choose, it just is a fact that 4 countries make up the UK - Google it!"

Oi stop using logic it's been band in this country lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag.

Like California ? No like Cornwall.

Well its got a flag, its got a border. Hang on, so has Cambridgeshire. Does that make it a country? Surely not.

Right, so that's at least 2 definitions out the window as to what a country is. Maybe someone else can have a go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This definition is from the Oxford dictionary.

A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

I have learnt something new today.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933.

The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below.

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;

(b) a defined territory;

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary.

A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

I have learnt something new today.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933.

The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below.

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;

(b) a defined territory;

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it. "

I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

https://youtu.be/UTduy7Qkvk8

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary.

A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

I have learnt something new today.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933.

The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below.

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;

(b) a defined territory;

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it.

I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I? "

If you can apply them to california, yes

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary.

A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

I have learnt something new today.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933.

The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below.

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;

(b) a defined territory;

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it.

I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I?

If you can apply them to california, yes

No, I we looked at how California met your criteria of a country as being a defined territory with a flag. We also applied this rule to Cambridgeshire and Cornwall and we found they all met your criteria, yet we all know they are not countries.

But lets apply the Montevideo Convention to England.

A) Yes, it has a permanent population.

B) Yes, it has a defined territory. So far so good!

C) a government? No, no English government that I am aware of.

D) Capacity to enter into relations with other states, no, again going back to C, there is no government to direct any such agreements/relations.

So unfortunately, England fails to meet the internationally established criteria for statehood.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im still scottish never ever british lol

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Im still scottish never ever british lol

May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?

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over a year ago

"Im still scottish never ever british lol

May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?"

depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Im still scottish never ever british lol

May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?

depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them

The English ? The Welsh ? Are the people demonstrably different ? Is it possible to make a rational statement that applies to all born or parents born of on bit of land that does not apply to other born on another bit ?

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over a year ago

"Im still scottish never ever british lol

May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?"

Because i was born scottish have never classed myself as british nothing to do with being extra special its my country of birth and why i class myself as scottish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im still scottish never ever british lol

May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?

depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them

I have no dislike for any english irish or welsh i have family in all 3 countries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The military used to classify nationality like this:

Brit/Eng - the latter bit dependent on which country of birth.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary.

A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

I have learnt something new today.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933.

The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below.

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications:

(a) a permanent population;

(b) a defined territory;

(d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it.

I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I?

If you can apply them to california, yes

But lets apply the Montevideo Convention to England.

A) Yes, it has a permanent population.

B) Yes, it has a defined territory. So far so good!

C) a government? No, no English government that I am aware of.

D) Capacity to enter into relations with other states, no, again going back to C, there is no government to direct any such agreements/relations.

So unfortunately, England fails to meet the internationally established criteria for statehood.

That's Statehood, not country. I think a better definition of a country is this

A country is a region that is identified as a distinct national entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated people with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography.

Thanks Wikkie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Hush you dont tell Kinky that he will blow a fuse

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Technically English....as where I was born.

I have (had) Grandparents who were Irish, Scottish (grandmothers), Welsh and English (Grandfathers) so a good mongrel British mix genetically.

I have, however, done a family tree type thing through my fathers paternal line...following the surname. Back to 16th century...all English and back to a small Lake District village the same as my surname... so I'll stick to English for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?"

There can be if it was desired

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?"

Ask FIFA?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?

Ask FIFA?"

I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?

Ask FIFA?

I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples.

Nothing to do with that at all

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?

Ask FIFA?

I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples.

We could have an English and Welsh team, like we do in Cricket; we could have an 'all British Isles' team, as we do in Rugby; we could have a UK team, as we do in the Olympics; we could have any mixture we wanted, if we wanted. Where we don't do it, we don't do it because the governing bodies of those sports don't want it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?"

Which team plays football/soccer in the olympics? Is it Team GB? Im not a big football fan, so I'm not really sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?

Which team plays football/soccer in the olympics? Is it Team GB? Im not a big football fan, so I'm not really sure."

Indeed it is

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By *issing in actionWoman
over a year ago

Llanelli

When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

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By *issing in actionWoman
over a year ago

Llanelli

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed"

We always knew we were a country though, we've known it since King Offa built his dyke and told us to stay the other side of it lol

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen."

How very patriotic of them

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed"

So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country.

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over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country.

Its the north of Ireland not northern Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen.

How very patriotic of them

Well done the welsh

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country.

Its the north of Ireland not northern Ireland

So it's not part of the UK at all? It's part of Ireland?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed"

I guess, just like country, it depends what your definition of principality actually is. Mine is:- the territory or jurisdiction of a prince or the country that gives title to a prince.

As Wales gives title to the Prince of Wales, by the definition I use, Wales is a principality. However, by the same definition, a principality can be a country also.

Perhaps I should have said the United Kingdon is made up of two kingdoms, one principality and a province. How many countries make up the UK depends on your definition of country and could possibly be anything from one to four (or more if you include the Channel Island states, Isle Of Man, Silly Isles etc).

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By *aradisecircusMan
over a year ago

Derry

Born in Ireland. Lived half my life in Northern Ireland. Proud to be Irish. Don't want a United Ireland though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum

here, I will help you;

Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).

Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.

The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.

Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;

you failed to read this;

Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.

The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed

I guess, just like country, it depends what your definition of principality actually is. Mine is:- the territory or jurisdiction of a prince or the country that gives title to a prince.

As Wales gives title to the Prince of Wales, by the definition I use, Wales is a principality. However, by the same definition, a principality can be a country also.

factually incorrect

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

100% Highlander and Scot.

British? Nah.

UK is an artificial construct, fruit of a poisoned vine: a shotgun wedding.

Scotland is my nation.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

God I hate all this obsessive small minded nationalistic crap! Everybody playing self interested one up-manship games to look after there own little patch of mud and bollox to what happens to everybody else

It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mixed race, but consider myself English first, British second, European never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"God I hate all this obsessive small minded nationalistic crap! Everybody playing self interested one up-manship games to look after there own little patch of mud and bollox to what happens to everybody else

It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! "
.

What's your alternative?

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! .

What's your alternative?"

As I've said on several threads, I'm a one world globalist. One government with one executive and one bureaucracy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! .

What's your alternative?

As I've said on several threads, I'm a one world globalist. One government with one executive and one bureaucracy. "

Me to.One nation one flag one people on a little blue ball.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"English first, British 2nd and European last. "

Yes, this.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY! "

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second"

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap"

Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap

Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.

Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap

Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.

Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH

Apart from when you use your passport, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have parents from greenock, and hamilton, grandparents from ireland, and although i was born in england,i am very happy to be of celtic descent!!, even have a gaelic name!!

, _candium....if ive got this correct?, is an alloy, developed by our soviet buddies, to tip missiles with, that would withstand breaking thru ice, launched underwater???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap

Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.

Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH

Apart from when you use your passport, right? "

Nope as i said a passport is only a document doesnt make you british

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british

Have you got a Scottish passport?

What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself

Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?

Ive already said scottish ,why

Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british

So you don't care that it says British on it?

YAWN

it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.

now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"

What is your definition of a country?

why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;

again

for the third time;

please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain

The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!

Wrong Dude

United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.

oh and I'm English first British second

UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country

no wonder people get sick of your daily crap

Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.

Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH

Apart from when you use your passport, right?

Nope as i said a passport is only a document doesnt make you british

it proves you are British! You use jt to prove your identity as a British citizen.

Out of interest, what is so wrong with being British?

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By *wsvl78Woman
over a year ago

London

"How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?"

I class myself as British as was born and raised in London, but have Jamaican parents who came to England when they were both young.

I have always felt the identity of being a Brit was applied to people who were born in England but whose heritage was from elsewhere. Personally I don't feel I would be accepted as English by the majority of people who class themselves as that, yet Jamaicans do not accept me as Jamaican either. Being British is an identity for those English residents who don't really fit in to their original country's mould.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am English born...Scottish wed, Kids born Scots....So i have a foot in both camps but am proud to be British as well as my other roots xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Born in Cardiff so am British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when the three letters 'ish' are placed at the end of a word it signifies that it is an approximation of the root word ... in the case of the this thread, british would be a person who is an approximation of a briton, but in reality, does not qualify as being such .... linguistic fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate having to put British on forms

I'm English !

Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!

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By *candium OP Woman
over a year ago

oban

"I hate having to put British on forms

I'm English !

Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!"

I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate having to put British on forms

I'm English !

Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!

I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other.

Never ever ever use british on anything fck id come out in a rash just thinking about it

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"when the three letters 'ish' are placed at the end of a word it signifies that it is an approximation of the root word ... in the case of the this thread, british would be a person who is an approximation of a briton, but in reality, does not qualify as being such .... linguistic fact

Does that apply to English, Scottish or Irish as well. Maybe the Welsh are the only people in the whole of the British Isles that actually have real national identity of their own after all.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?

I class myself as British as was born and raised in London, but have Jamaican parents who came to England when they were both young.

To be honest with you, if you're of British Caribbean decent then you've probably got more Anglo-Saxon or Celtic blood in you than most people who actually think they are English. There's not many people in this country who can trace their ancestry back further than their Grandparents or Great Grandparents and there's normally at least one, if not many more, of their parents, Grandparents or Great Grandparents who are not originally from the British Isles, regardless of their complexion.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I hate having to put British on forms

I'm English !

Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!"

I'm British. I would never identify myself as English as I feel that the designation as been hijacked by the disgusting far right edl, ukip etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I'm from New Zealand it's pretty straightforward- but I have relations in the UK.

There seems to be confusion over 'nationality' and 'country'. They're not the same. The UK is a country, albeit an individual kind of one, made up of two nations and Wales, formally a principality (are it and NI a nations now?) and NI.

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By *randmissdemeanourMan
over a year ago

glasgow

Scottish first Scottish second and Scottish third"

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Twll din pob Sais.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English

and perfectly happy to say so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does that apply to English, Scottish or Irish as well. Maybe the Welsh are the only people in the whole of the British Isles that actually have real national identity of their own after all.

apply it however you want .... i'm just relaying linguistic fact

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I hate having to put British on forms

I'm English !

Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!

I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other.

Never ever ever use british on anything fck id come out in a rash just thinking about it

Apart from on your passport

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it."

We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times.

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over a year ago

"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it.

A nation, and so nationality, is not defined by the country whose passport you have. There is no contradiction in terms of declaring nationality of one of its nations but using the country of the UK'S passport.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it.

Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN"

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Scottish first Scottish second and Scottish third""

Human first

Human second

Human third

I have realised any other data could be misleading x

English yes I was born in an English town but do I I want that to define me ie the stereo types that English× conger absolutely NOT

The more emphatically you suggest you are x then the less emphatically you can be you xxx

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Scottish first Scottish second and Scottish third"

Human first

Human second

Human third

I have realised any other data could be misleading x

English yes I was born in an English town but do I I want that to define me ie the stereo types that English× conger absolutely NOT

The more emphatically you suggest you are x then the less emphatically you can be you xxx"

The Duke of Wellington was fiercely adamant that being born in Ireland did not make him Irish. He said something along the lines of 'if a man is born in a stable, that does not make him a horse'

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over a year ago

"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it.

Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN" "

And that sums up exactly what fuels independence referendums. Britain is not a nation. Wales, England and Scotland are. The UK is a state. Do it should really say : State citizenship :UK.

I don't have a UK passport.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport.

But I'll bite...

I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood.

What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it.

Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN"

And that sums up exactly what fuels independence referendums. Britain is not a nation. Wales, England and Scotland are. The UK is a state. Do it should really say : State citizenship :UK.

I don't have a UK passport. "

What kind of passport do you have?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen.

How very patriotic of them

So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ?

Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CLCC- not a UK one. I'm from NZ

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over a year ago

"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen.

How very patriotic of them

So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ?

Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems "

is that a trick question ?

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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team.

There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen.

How very patriotic of them

So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ?

Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems

is that a trick question ?"

Nope try and answer is "god save the queen" an English or UK national anthem ? Which one

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

England doesn't need a national anthem. The UK is the nation to which England belongs and so English people are happy to sing that. We don't generally hate the other parts of the UK, so have no need to make up a seperate anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I recognize my personality as distinct from artificial constructions such as nation states. Boundaries diminish, so I'd prefer to link my identity to my personal limitations. I'm human."

Excellent statement

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