FabSwingers.com forum: May Corbyn or none of the above ??

By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

If there was an election today who woild you vote for . In the immortal words of Richard Pryor id vote none of the above. Tories just allow the rich and big companies to get richer and Corbyn would reduce Britain to a strike ridden hellhole . Thoughts ??

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

I'd give Boris a chance. I like Boris

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm with Brewster.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I'm with Brewster. "

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By *r_PinkMan
over a year ago

london stratford

Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote."
Fair enough I respect everyone's view i just feel I need to start a political party . I'm gonna call it the common sense party as there's fuck all about atm!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd give Boris a chance. I like Boris

All us Corbyn followers would give Boris a chance

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

Corbyn all the way.

Union power is now all but gone. The ones that remain with any amount of strength are generally just greedy gits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a sad state of affairs when a country with an electorate the size of the UK has Corbyn or May as their primary choices to lead a government

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

The country would roll their eyes in despair at another election.

Nothing of substance has happened since the referendum, it's now time to focus on getting jobs done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The country would roll their eyes in despair at another election.

Nothing of substance has happened since the referendum, it's now time to focus on getting jobs done."

My only two candidates I'd be willing to offer my support too are David Davis but he's got a more important job and I trust him to carry it out ,,,,,

So I'm left with BOJO who did a fantastic job as London Mayor

He was sufficiently competent to be re-elected and has vastly more experience at herding a bunch of wittering headless sheep ,,,,,,,,

Whereas JC is just a total ideological nincompoop.......

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

It's just one big circle with a two party system. Labour spend all the money promising the world and making us skint and people get pissed off so they get voted out then the Tories get in and cut spending to wipe the debt and people get pissed off so they get voted out and labour repeat the process.

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By *kyblue1878Couple
over a year ago

Southport

Both leaders are a joke. Labour need a strong more conservative with a small c candidate and they will get the votes. The conservatives need someone with balls who is credible and didn't sit on the fence during the brexit vote. May is a witch. Corbyn is a slimy untrustworthy snake. Where's all of the credible politicians gone ?

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

Been a ukip voter since I could vote.

Last election I voted for Theresa just to keep labour out as he would destroy this country.

Boris and Nigel would be best running this country. If I could choose a name even better for a election.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"It's just one big circle with a two party system. Labour spend all the money promising the world and making us skint and people get pissed off so they get voted out then the Tories get in and cut spending to wipe the debt and people get pissed off so they get voted out and labour repeat the process.

British Politics since the Second World War summed up beautifully

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Both leaders are a joke. Labour need a strong more conservative with a small c candidate and they will get the votes. The conservatives need someone with balls who is credible and didn't sit on the fence during the brexit vote. May is a witch. Corbyn is a slimy untrustworthy snake. Where's all of the credible politicians gone ?

Boris Boris Boris

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Been a ukip voter since I could vote.

Last election I voted for Theresa just to keep labour out as he would destroy this country.

Boris and Nigel would be best running this country. If I could choose a name even better for a election. "

What home rule credentials has Nigel got ? he's never suggested a policy he hasn't got a plan and you want him to run the country ......hahahahahhahahah pmsl

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By *eedsortingMan
over a year ago

Radley

Not sure. It would not be Corbyn as I think he would ruin the country. Has some interesting and good policy ideas but I wouldn't trust him to do the job. And neither does his party. I thought May would be a reasonable leader after she won the conservative party leader contest but she has been pretty woeful since then. A disastrous election campaign (even though an election was the right thing to do) has left her pretty much a dead woman walking. I find it a pity that the public on the whole shat on the Lib Dems - not really what they deserved. A little bit of independent thinking by people and looking at the situation was all it took. What we do need though is someone to be stronger and more assertive in the Brexit negotiations and I certainly can't see that coming from Corbyn

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Thanks for the insights guys but I still think both parties are fuckin useless and we need a fresh thinking party . Shall we all make one . The fab party . What new laws shall we pass ??

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"Its a sad state of affairs when a country with an electorate the size of the UK has Corbyn or May as their primary choices to lead a government

What about America with Trump and Clinton?

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By *eedsortingMan
over a year ago

Radley

"Its a sad state of affairs when a country with an electorate the size of the UK has Corbyn or May as their primary choices to lead a government

What about America with Trump and Clinton?"

Very good point, well made.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

Tbh we are screwed whichever we choose.

This country isn't being run by the politicians but by corporations.

Have you heard that Mrs May is trying to pass "laws" so that G4S and Serco can have the power to arrest?

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By *ampWithABrainWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Corbyn could NEVER vote Tory.

But agree with those saying we need a third option, I don't agree with not voting though, the last 2 elections more people didn't vote than voted in the successors.

The idea that labour spend it all and Tory recoup has been debunked. We need something in the middle really.

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By *arciocialWoman
over a year ago

Leicester

Corbyn... Mays doing a good job of turning the country into a hell hole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a sad state of affairs when a country with an electorate the size of the UK has Corbyn or May as their primary choices to lead a government

What about America with Trump and Clinton?

Very good point, well made.

But hardly an example of aspiration

The US is not an example the UK should acknowledged as credible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote. Fair enough I respect everyone's view i just feel I need to start a political party . I'm gonna call it the common sense party as there's fuck all about atm!!"

Oh maybe you could do that... Maybe we could shorten it. Maybe the communist party? Sounds like a good name to me.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote. Fair enough I respect everyone's view i just feel I need to start a political party . I'm gonna call it the common sense party as there's fuck all about atm!!

Oh maybe you could do that... Maybe we could shorten it. Maybe the communist party? Sounds like a good name to me."

Corbyns model is going down a storm in Venezuela, see you all in the bread queue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would rather have direct democracy so everyone can vote on policies, not people, ideologies or parties.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"I would rather have direct democracy so everyone can vote on policies, not people, ideologies or parties."

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By *ampant Lion34Man
over a year ago

East Midlands

None of these Muppets realise the real problems we face they are to pc watching what the say in fear of offending. Except Boris he dont give a shit says how it is and for me that's a big vote. Both parties are cutting defence when we need to build on it as the world has never been so unstable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've lost faith in democracy. How can you trust people to vote for a leader when America chooses Trump.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It only needs 48 Tory MPs to call for leadership election and it has happen .......

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

None of the above ..anyone wanting to be prime minister or in fact anyone wanting to be a politician should be banned from becoming 1

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I don't vote for Prime minister but if I did it would be Corbyn. He's honest, wise and would put many of the wrongs in the UK to right.

That party fully foster and itemised their elected term in their manifesto, unlike the Cons - an aspect of his honesty.

The biggest, most important change is underway for the UK since the war - Brexit - and the Cons can't be trusted to get a deal that is fantastic for most of the country. Corbyn would create a stronger outcome for the majority of the people.

Corbyn is someone I'd have been very comfortable with as an elder relative. A very decent man, whereas May is not in control, has a legacy of catastrophes from her previous job and isn't particularly intelligent nor wise, whilst at the helm of a nuthouse that is full of very dangerous people

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

I would vote Tories as I have lived through Labour governments and each time they virtually bankrupted the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Corbyn

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

Corbyn

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I would vote Tories as I have lived through Labour governments and each time they virtually bankrupted the country."

Apart from when the global banking crash devastated the global economy and Labour steered the country into an upturn that other countries didn't have

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"I would vote Tories as I have lived through Labour governments and each time they virtually bankrupted the country.

Apart from when the global banking crash devastated the global economy and Labour steered the country into an upturn that other countries didn't have "

Ahh you mean the outgoing "there's no money left" note. Proper fixed it didn't they

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"I would vote Tories as I have lived through Labour governments and each time they virtually bankrupted the country."

Lol you know nothing.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

British Politics since the Second World War summed up beautifully

If you know nothing about British politics 1945-present....

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I would vote Tories as I have lived through Labour governments and each time they virtually bankrupted the country.

Apart from when the global banking crash devastated the global economy and Labour steered the country into an upturn that other countries didn't have

Ahh you mean the outgoing "there's no money left" note. Proper fixed it didn't they

And how do you expect a government to "fix" a global crash then?

At least they did their best (as much as I despise "new" Labour) to keep us afloat, as opposed to just exploiting the situation to re-distribute wealth upwards.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

Generally speaking Tory governments feck over the poor and make businessmen richer. Labour generally have great ideas that arent really practical. Liberals sold us out by siding with camerons crew so they can do one.

Basically we are buggered no matter who is in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just cant get my head around if half the country vote for something they don't even understand. And the other half vote for stuff that doesn't get followed through. It's all utter bollocks

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"I don't vote for Prime minister but if I did it would be Corbyn. He's honest, wise and would put many of the wrongs in the UK to right.

That party fully foster and itemised their elected term in their manifesto, unlike the Cons - an aspect of his honesty.

Unfortunately that is exactly what he wants you to think.

His beliefs are not based on what is best for the country or democracy, it is what is best for communism.

He uses democracy to get in power and would then start to introduce far left policies which would bankrupt the country...

You look at the Corbyn's left, they preach unicorns and fluffy bunny rabbits for all.

However as soon as you disagree it's "I hope your kids get cancer you c~nts and you all die in a house fire."

Very dangerous party at the moment followed by a lot of extremists...

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

This is where we go wrong in our country thinking its a vote for the leaders, no its a vote for my local constituency mp and a manifesto.

Maybe I am an idealist.

I spent almost 20 years in public service. I hated carrying out the tory will to the populace- it was often pernicious.

I like what labour stands for, always have.

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

People are shit scared of communism but real communism can never develop because of people. So I don't get that debate.

I would sooner pull in direction that helps my neighbour rather than stamping all over them

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

"I don't vote for Prime minister but if I did it would be Corbyn. He's honest, wise and would put many of the wrongs in the UK to right.

That party fully foster and itemised their elected term in their manifesto, unlike the Cons - an aspect of his honesty.

Unfortunately that is exactly what he wants you to think.

His beliefs are not based on what is best for the country or democracy, it is what is best for communism.

He uses democracy to get in power and would then start to introduce far left policies which would bankrupt the country...

You look at the Corbyn's left, they preach unicorns and fluffy bunny rabbits for all.

However as soon as you disagree it's "I hope your kids get cancer you c~nts and you all die in a house fire."

Very dangerous party at the moment followed by a lot of extremists..."

Rubbish!

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"This is where we go wrong in our country thinking its a vote for the leaders, no its a vote for my local constituency mp and a manifesto.

Maybe I am an idealist.

I spent almost 20 years in public service. I hated carrying out the tory will to the populace- it was often pernicious.

I like what labour stands for, always have. "

Unfortunately with JC, DA and JmD are a dangerous bunch, I have never been a Labour fan but with David Miliband they would have been unstoppable...

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By *aelawMan
over a year ago

Paisley

Nicola Sturgeon

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Nicola Sturgeon "

According to my family in Scotland, she's spent a lot of money doing nothing...

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By *aelawMan
over a year ago

Paisley

"Nicola Sturgeon

According to my family in Scotland, she's spent a lot of money doing nothing..."

Alas, she is firmly on my list of crushes so it's hard to say I agree to a certain extent. With some things the SNP has made Scotland better. Over the last few years though they have taken their eye off the ball and a little slow to realise it. Only time will tell if they can pull the support back.

Until then, she haunts my dreams. It's just.....odd.....

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

None of the current main parties.

There is lots of alternative talent about.

I can think of Jacob Rees Mogg, Nigel Farage, Henry Bolton, David Davis, Bojo, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, John Redwood.

We need someone who will actually stand up for Britain. Neither May nor Corbyn is that person and neither has any vision which appeals or which can work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we're talking politics then?

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Will we get in trouble for posting on a thread about politics not in the politics forum...

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"None of the current main parties.

There is lots of alternative talent about.

I can think of Jacob Rees Mogg, Nigel Farage, Henry Bolton, David Davis, Bojo, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, John Redwood.

We need someone who will actually stand up for Britain. Neither May nor Corbyn is that person and neither has any vision which appeals or which can work."

Michael Gove? The man who has single handed has destroyed the education system when he was Education Secretary and now our young people and teachers are suffering the consequences. I don’t think so. Talentless man who has been removed before and somehow lingers around like a dead rat behind a skirting board.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So we're talking politics then?

I thought we were taking about which leader would have the biggest erection ....

Boris obviously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Corbyn. Without a doubt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irrespective of your political and economic outlook and beliefs the current crop of politicians we have are the worst I can remember. Witness a pitifully shallow debate on Brexit that didn't explain the implications of staying and leaving. Also, we have had a woeful general election that was a result of faceless advisors thinking it was a good idea.

In a world where barriers are being built and no one talks we need to work on the things that we have in common and debate differences more .

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can remember when power cuts , 3 day working weeks , dead bodies unable to be buried because of industrial action and no bin collection for months, homes without heat because the nationalised miners were on strike even though their subsidised wage was significantly higher that the average worker ......

So no not the worst I've seen ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I can remember when power cuts , 3 day working weeks , dead bodies unable to be buried because of industrial action and no bin collection for months, homes without heat because the nationalised miners were on strike even though their subsidised wage was significantly higher that the average worker ......

So no not the worst I've seen ....

But in those days you knew who and what politicians stood for. Some poor decisions maybe but at least there was a detailed debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So no not the worst I've seen ....

But in those days you knew who and what politicians stood for. Some poor decisions maybe but at least there was a detailed debate."

Doesn't alter the fact the politicians of the day couldn't effectively govern and the truth being the vast majority of politician were not from working class backgrounds so lacked the political knowledge and experience we demand of todays crop....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But in those days you knew who and what politicians stood for. Some poor decisions maybe but at least there was a detailed debate."

That's not accurate ....

The majority of those problems were exacerbated by an unwillingness of either side to debate....

It was a Mexican stand off situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cornyn gets my vote. Over the years I have slowly drifted to the left. I remember Thatcher and the poll tax which crippled those on low earnings. The Tories are now bringing the nhs to its knees , when it should be a beacon to the world. Whether you voted to leave or remain , brexit is only happening because Cameron used it for votes. Council cuts mean adult and children's services are understaffed and over worked. Homelessness is common place in our towns and cities and rising due to the inept roll out of universal credit. It's time somebody sorted this lot out and I cannot see the conservative party doing it.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Will we get in trouble for posting on a thread about politics not in the politics forum...

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I might as I started it lol

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"I just cant get my head around if half the country vote for something they don't even understand. And the other half vote for stuff that doesn't get followed through. It's all utter bollocks "

I take it the half who didn't even understand were the remainers right

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

John Smith please, the last Labour leader i felt was actually on my side.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I just cant get my head around if half the country vote for something they don't even understand. And the other half vote for stuff that doesn't get followed through. It's all utter bollocks

Actually in a general election, often the majority of the country get what they didn't want.

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By *achealTV/TS
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

I'd rather the Tories than Labour to be honest xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd rather the Tories than Labour to be honest xx"

Without doubt ....

I was in favour of May but I now feel that was a mistake on my behalf .....

She should go ..... and I do believe that that David Davis would be my first choice but obviously his talent is being put to better use at the moment ....

So bring on BOJO ......

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"I'd rather the Tories than Labour to be honest xx

Without doubt ....

I was in favour of May but I now feel that was a mistake on my behalf .....

She should go ..... and I do believe that that David Davis would be my first choice but obviously his talent is being put to better use at the moment ....

So bring on BOJO ......

I can tolerate the Tories, I can even tolerate May and her robotic crap but Boris! 1.I can just see the dustopia future now with him as our leader 2.Boris as leader would make us a world wide laughing stock like the US with Donald Trump 3.Seriously everyone likes a comedian but as a political leader? fook that. Waiting for you to slag Corbyn off...

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I can fully understand people wanting May out for various reasons.

But I find it very strange that having a cough and letters falling of a display would be the 'last straw'. Whoever comes next will have to be very careful not to repeat those mistakes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can fully understand people wanting May out for various reasons.

But I find it very strange that having a cough and letters falling of a display would be the 'last straw'. Whoever comes next will have to be very careful not to repeat those mistakes!"

You really couldn't script the speech debacle...... I think it will be the catalyst that brings her down

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By *or Fox SakeCouple
over a year ago

Thornaby

Boris Johnson is the leader of the Boris Johnson party, his only aim is to promote the Boris Johnson party.

He'll hang anyone out to dry who opposes the Boris Johnson party.

We don't need megalomaniacs like him running the country. A poor man's Moseley.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I think people are expecting an election every 18 months or so. We've had so many lately, the media just pressure pressure pressure in the hope they get an election to talk about.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Boris Johnson is the leader of the Boris Johnson party, his only aim is to promote the Boris Johnson party.

He'll hang anyone out to dry who opposes the Boris Johnson party.

We don't need megalomaniacs like him running the country. A poor man's Moseley. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris Johnson is the leader of the Boris Johnson party, his only aim is to promote the Boris Johnson party.

He'll hang anyone out to dry who opposes the Boris Johnson party.

We don't need megalomaniacs like him running the country. A poor man's Moseley. "

Who would you have?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

If its gotta be a Tory, then Tobias Ellwood please.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

If it has to be a tory then I prefer David Davis.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Whatever happened to William Hague?

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"What ever happed to William Hague? "

He became exceptional at making money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"What ever happed to William Hague?

He became exceptional at making money

Sounds ideal! Get him in number 10.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"What ever happed to William Hague?

He became exceptional at making money

Sounds ideal! Get him in number 10."

Joking aside he got the job of leader far too young. His time would be now and I think he'd be excellent

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

That was the change over from New Labour (who are Conservatives in disguise) to the old Labour. New Labour of course wanted Corbyn out, so you had infighting for a while but now it has settled down and we clearly have an old Labour with Corbyn as leader for the future so now we understand that lets move on!

You say Corbyn's pledges are unfeasible? Labour costed their manifesto the Conservatives didn't and infact they have uturned so much they've ripped their manifesto up and put it in the trash where it belongs.

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By *agan_PairCouple
over a year ago

portchester

I'd vote may over Corbyn every day. If he ever gets in I'll be leaving the country with the rest of the money. There will be nothing left in England for me at that point.

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over a year ago

"Its a sad state of affairs when a country with an electorate the size of the UK has Corbyn or May as their primary choices to lead a government

And to think we took the piss out of the USA when their choice was Donny little hands or Corupt Hilary...... what goes around, comes around eh?

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By *eadySteadyCockCouple
over a year ago

Tredegar

I can remember being in a swinger club once and some boring dude started talking to me about brexit.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

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over a year ago

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

That's for the response but I see what I see ......

The resurgence of labour popularity was and built on unworkable economics so and there is no-one capable of proving otherwise ......

Nonsense

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

That's for the response but I see what I see ......

The resurgence of labour popularity was and built on unworkable economics so and there is no-one capable of proving otherwise ......

Nonsense

Well the Tory's are in power and they've alot to deal with for the next couple of years so lets hope they deal with it well for all our sakes.

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over a year ago

Corbyn without a doubt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

That's for the response but I see what I see ......

The resurgence of labour popularity was and built on unworkable economics so and there is no-one capable of proving otherwise ......

Nonsense

Well the Tory's are in power and they've alot to deal with for the next couple of years so lets hope they deal with it well for all our sakes.

I sincerely hope so .....

Time plays trick on our memories particularly when those memories culminate in nothing .....

I have less confidence in the Tory party now than I've ever had .....

But I have no confidence in Labour ,,,,,

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

That's for the response but I see what I see ......

The resurgence of labour popularity was and built on unworkable economics so and there is no-one capable of proving otherwise ......

Nonsense

Well the Tory's are in power and they've alot to deal with for the next couple of years so lets hope they deal with it well for all our sakes.

I sincerely hope so .....

Time plays trick on our memories particularly when those memories culminate in nothing .....

I have less confidence in the Tory party now than I've ever had .....

But I have no confidence in Labour ,,,,,

Fair enough

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker."

Apparently some people refer to Corbyns Labour as 'Real Labour'?. Before anyone say's it more like 'shit Labour' lol. A big change to Blair, Brown and Miliband which was desperately needed. I am sorry that JC has made you feel alienated I guess his politics isn't going to please everyone.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning. "

Well I'm not on benefits or a student and I appreciate his politics. It would please those who need a working nhs, social care, pensioners, disbaled, and anyone who earns less than about 50,000 a year.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!"

Firstly he has a new group of politicans around him such as Angela Rayner and others that are down to earth and understand what the working class are about where they're from and they actually give a crap about it. David Cameron and Theresa May and especially Boris do you think they know anything about the working class or give a crap? Of course not that's why they make countless political mistakes then uturns and why they're so unpopular. Real Labour (if you like) do cost their manifesto and do give a crap in my opinion and they will pay for things by taxing the wealthiest and catching the big tax dodgers out there just for starters but also by running the country far better than the blundering Tory's.

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over a year ago

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell."

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

Ok. I no longer like him

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

I've learnt something new there, I thought he was a lazy slovenly bar steward

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over a year ago

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

I've learnt something new there, I thought he was a lazy slovenly bar steward

You're getting mixed up....

That's what his wife called him when he was caught fucking a female assistant in his office in admiralty arch....

I seem to remember it was anal sex....

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?"

They won't goto Monaco that is a typical conservative BS. They won;t need to be taxed that much more it is far more about running the country better and investing and believing in yourself that you can invest and payback with interest instead of just strangling the poorest for decades at a time with austerity. The Tory's promised to sort all in 5 years lol then 10 years then... through austerity it was BS and they knew it. George Osbourne was an absolute cancer and the best thing about Brexit was it got rid of Cameron and Osbourne and killed two very bad birds with one stone.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

I've learnt something new there, I thought he was a lazy slovenly bar steward

You're getting mixed up....

That's what his wife called him when he was caught fucking a female assistant in his office in admiralty arch....

I seem to remember it was anal sex....

I think that's mandatory for any politician .... skilled at fucking people up the arse.....

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over a year ago

"Its unfair to tar Prescott with the new labour brush. I think he would have been pretty good. Not under the command of Mandelson and Alastair Campbell.

I knew someone who sailed with John Prescott when he was a Cabin Steward on ship .....

He was a useless lazy slovenly cabin Steward that did anything he could not to work ..... that's why he became a shop steward .....no-one would work with him

I've learnt something new there, I thought he was a lazy slovenly bar steward

You're getting mixed up....

That's what his wife called him when he was caught fucking a female assistant in his office in admiralty arch....

I seem to remember it was anal sex....

I think that's mandatory for any politician .... skilled at fucking people up the arse.....

The story goes the fat fucker was so fat at the time he needed to keep one foot on the floor as he scuttled her over the desk.....

Broken furniture ensued .....

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?"

Anyone who can't afford to buy a home in London for a start. I always thought it was obvious who the working class is? anyone who wasn't born with a silver spoon in their mouth I suppose? If you were driven to school in a brand new top of the range Mercedes you probably wasn't in a working class family.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?

I always think if you can't afford to live in london..... don't live in London. All the people I've met who dodge tax have been working class.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?

I always think if you can't afford to live in london..... don't live in London. All the people I've met who dodge tax have been working class. "

Maybe some self employed fiddle the tax or cook the books is that what you mean? because most employed people have the tax deducted from their salary by their employer and have nothing to do with it.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"I don't vote for Prime minister but if I did it would be Corbyn. He's honest, wise and would put many of the wrongs in the UK to right.

That party fully foster and itemised their elected term in their manifesto, unlike the Cons - an aspect of his honesty.

"Corbyn is someone I'd have been very comfortable with as an elder relative. A very decent man, ..."

Who dodges questions on terrorism (Palestinians), dictators (Venezuela) and honours IRA killers... yeah, a real nice guy!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?

I always think if you can't afford to live in london..... don't live in London. All the people I've met who dodge tax have been working class.

Maybe some self employed fiddle the tax or cook the books is that what you mean? because most employed people have the tax deducted from their salary by their employer and have nothing to do with it."

Some self employed........

Seriously though. You can't say someone is working class because they can't afford a house in London! You sound like a tory who only worries about policies that affect london and Westminster. There's a whole nation out here that wonders why anyone would want to live anywhere near that shit pit! Can't afford to live there? Then don't. It's not rocket science.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning.

How? Convince me please. Renew my faith in labour!

Who do you consider to be working class? If you tax the wealthiest the most (as is already the case) or even more, what's stopping them all going to Monaco etc?

So who do you consider working class? Who is jeremy going to help?

I always think if you can't afford to live in london..... don't live in London. All the people I've met who dodge tax have been working class.

Maybe some self employed fiddle the tax or cook the books is that what you mean? because most employed people have the tax deducted from their salary by their employer and have nothing to do with it.

Some self employed........

I think we might have crossed wires? I wouldn't recommend anyone live in London and as soon as I can get out of London the better. I was merely saying how high housing prices are in London not that anyone should want to live in London.

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over a year ago

there is a politics thread am sure...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there is a politics thread am sure..."

It's nice to have it up here for once, sssshhhh.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

Two points.

1. If someone does something that doesn't work, surely changing it is a good thing.

2. Labour did eventually cost their manifesto £100 billion to sort out the students for starters.

How were they going to fund this?

A council tax based on a percentage of the value of your house. Council tax would have doubled for the average home owner.

How would that help the working class?

Luckily Dianne Abbott had managed to get the 30,000 new police officers she had promised down to £30 a month, so that's a bargain...

Ps. She was educated under Labour.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Ok. So someone please tell me how JC will make my life better. Because honestly, it's not that bad. And I'm not going to vote so that people who choose not to work for a living can continue not to work for a living.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"What ever happed to William Hague?

He became exceptional at making money

Sounds ideal! Get him in number 10."

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over a year ago

"Ok. So someone please tell me how JC will make my life better. Because honestly, it's not that bad. And I'm not going to vote so that people who choose not to work for a living can continue not to work for a living. "

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment. "

Talk to my neighbour. Mrs "if i worked I'd only get 500 quid more a year". The short sighted oxygen thief. What's worse is she's actually encouraging her daughter to do the same. And turned down the opportunity for her to do the eleven plus. "She's gonna be a drop out like her mum!" She cheerfully told me..

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over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

I would be interested in talking to her, yes. Really talking to her and understanding what's going on there. I find people tend to give you the answers they think you expect of them when they don't feel safe to really engage.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

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over a year ago

Some very disillusioned selfish people amongst these here fab users.

I would rather have JC all day every day!

He's the only one who isn't swayed by a pay off, he couldn't care less about getting a. Pat on the back off the Elite corporations who have massive egos to boost!

I am sick to the back teeth of fronting the f***ing bill of the wanking bankers (still) while everyone else gets pay rises, we continue to struggle, oh and whilst they continue to get bonus'.

What a f***ing joke of a party that's in at the minute!!

I say TAKE your P45 TM and F*** the F*** OFF!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach."

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

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over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking "

Living on a council estate i can tell you, her attitude is not unique.

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over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking

Living on a council estate i can tell you, her attitude is not unique. "

I completely concur that *your* experience is likely to be this. That's kinda my point.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking

Living on a council estate i can tell you, her attitude is not unique.

I completely concur that *your* experience is likely to be this. That's kinda my point. "

So it works both ways. In your experience the people you deal with tell you they want to find a job,get off benefits, and move out of their council houses. However I'm not going to call you ignorant just because you haven't met many people like my neighbour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking

Living on a council estate i can tell you, her attitude is not unique.

I completely concur that *your* experience is likely to be this. That's kinda my point.

That's not what they tell me btw. And from the sounds of it I have met a lot of people like your neighbour. But you know, it's a moot point when you've decided.

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over a year ago

Clem, in over 15years of working with people on benefits in varying capacities -- I have very rarely come across someone who chooses not to work. That's an insanely ignorant comment.

You're making excuses for a lazy leach.

I guess you see what you want, Clem. I don't think I have -- I've said yes I'd be interested in taking to her. And then made a statement that in my experience is true.

*talking

Living on a council estate i can tell you, her attitude is not unique.

I completely concur that *your* experience is likely to be this. That's kinda my point.

That's not what they tell me btw. And from the sounds of it I have met a lot of people like your neighbour. But you know, it's a moot point when you've decided. "

Also there is a difference in calling a comment and a person ignorant.

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By *agan_PairCouple
over a year ago

portchester

They won't goto Monaco that is a typical conservative BS. "

No it's not bs. I already have made plans for my company to move to another country in the case someone like Corbyn Gets power.

It will be the end of business over here and I've worked to hard to be where I am now to risk it all.

That is the real irony of their socialist stance. Those they try to take from can afford to move away. And their destruction only hurts those they claim to want to help.

Their whole ideal comes from a place of jealousy. Some people have something I want ... so I'll just take it.

It's like an overweight man on here saying men with model looks and a six pack should be limited on the number of meets they have as he does not get as many.

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over a year ago

They won't goto Monaco that is a typical conservative BS.

No it's not bs. I already have made plans for my company to move to another country in the case someone like Corbyn Gets power.

It will be the end of business over here and I've worked to hard to be where I am now to risk it all.

That is the real irony of their socialist stance. Those they try to take from can afford to move away. And their destruction only hurts those they claim to want to help.

Their whole ideal comes from a place of jealousy. Some people have something I want ... so I'll just take it.

It's like an overweight man on here saying men with model looks and a six pack should be limited on the number of meets they have as he does not get as many."

From a place of jealousy?

That makes me laugh. I call bs.

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

They won't goto Monaco that is a typical conservative BS.

No it's not bs. I already have made plans for my company to move to another country in the case someone like Corbyn Gets power.

It will be the end of business over here and I've worked to hard to be where I am now to risk it all.

That is the real irony of their socialist stance. Those they try to take from can afford to move away. And their destruction only hurts those they claim to want to help.

Their whole ideal comes from a place of jealousy. Some people have something I want ... so I'll just take it.

It's like an overweight man on here saying men with model looks and a six pack should be limited on the number of meets they have as he does not get as many."

What? you're a very bitter and twisted person I actually feel sorry you.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote. Fair enough I respect everyone's view i just feel I need to start a political party . I'm gonna call it the common sense party as there's fuck all about atm!!"
OK vote corbyn .let's go back to the prehistoric ages .you'll soon see if labour get in . how much of their fairy tale manifesto actually happens . this country needs a new,party and a new direction and its definately not labour .they will bring this country to its knees .people need to wake up . the only qualification you need to be an mp these days is be one hell of a big liar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is lots of alternative talent about.

I can think of Jacob Rees Mogg, Nigel Farage, Henry Bolton, David Davis, Bojo, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom."

Talent???? Bunch of utter cunts if you ask me.

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By *rbean69Man
over a year ago

Stroud

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities."

Things won't change for the better if you don't vote. If you can't be bothered to vote, why do you think you deserve a decent government. I have voted in every single election or referendum of every type since I turned 18, except parish council elections (since parish council candidates don't issue any form of communication, I cannot see how one can make a choice). The established parties like people such as yourself as it gives them carte blanche to persist in their misgovernment.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's just be real with ourselves and vote lord buckethead in he can't do any worse lol

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?"

The point in voting is because we can and we are lucky that we can. Would you rather live in North Korea for example? I agree the whole system is corrupt and it comes down to choosing the least worst option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it has to be a Tory .....

Labour lost the election ...

I mean lets be honest here about ayear ago Corbyn and his team was a laughing stock ......

He lost an election made a load of pie in the sky promises with no financial foundations totally unfeasible pledges aimed at a generation who believed his claptrap ...

He can say anything he like knowing what he is saying will never be implemented

If Labour and Corbyn were the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question

Corbyn's labour is not "old labour" they are not pro worker. As a union member and skilled man i actually feel alienated by JC's labour party. I feel he is pro non-worker.

It'll please those on benefits. And students....... until they start earning. "
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over a year ago

"Corbyn all the way.

We need change and we need a fair logic way.

So the Labour party gets my vote. Fair enough I respect everyone's view i just feel I need to start a political party . I'm gonna call it the common sense party as there's fuck all about atm!!OK vote corbyn .let's go back to the prehistoric ages .you'll soon see if labour get in . how much of their fairy tale manifesto actually happens . this country needs a new,party and a new direction and its definately not labour .they will bring this country to its knees .people need to wake up . the only qualification you need to be an mp these days is be one hell of a big liar

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...Spot on.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Corbyn would reduce Britain to a strike ridden hellhole . Thoughts ??"

Strange how without any empirical evidence you know how a Corbyn led government will destroy the UK.

Would you like to share how you? Me when I make predictions they are based on previous results and I cant see how you arrive at your conclusion unless you are saying that outside forces will deliberately manufacture a wold world crash if a Labour government led by JC is returned to power in the UK...

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?

Ah the pretence that we actually have a choice!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?

Ah the pretence that we actually have a choice!!

The illusion of choice gives us comfort and of course the illusion of control.

If you vote you offer complicity if you dont apathy.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?

Ah the pretence that we actually have a choice!!

The illusion of choice gives us comfort and of course the illusion of control.

If you vote you offer complicity if you dont apathy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't vote last time and until something changes for the better won't next time. The people in the middle are forgotten and taken for granted by those on the extremities.

What is the point in voting when the whole system is corrupt?

Ah the pretence that we actually have a choice!!

The illusion of choice gives us comfort and of course the illusion of control.

If you vote you offer complicity if you dont apathy."

2 edgy 4 me.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy."

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?"

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!"
Yep about right !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!"

You can change the world without voting. People do this all the time .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!"

There's nothing quite as obnoxious as the reasoning, and I use the term loosely, of those who peddle this nonsense about both sides are the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!"
..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Non of the Above , as I did in the last Election

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!

You can change the world without voting. People do this all the time .

"
If we had P R ? We could change things by Voting Tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's put it this way. As a politician you only have finite resources to use when it comes to persuading people to vote for you, and then maintaining those peoples faith in you.

If you're the kind of person who doesn't vote, for whatever stupid reason, why on earth would anyone waste their time on trying to court you, or represent your concerns?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it this way. As a politician you only have finite resources to use when it comes to persuading people to vote for you, and then maintaining those peoples faith in you.

If you're the kind of person who doesn't vote, for whatever stupid reason, why on earth would anyone waste their time on trying to court you, or represent your concerns?"
it's ok saying that but what if you live somewhere where your Vote of Choice doesn't Count ?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!

You can change the world without voting. People do this all the time .

If we had P R ? We could change things by Voting Tho

Has there ever been a successful PR government? I remember Italy had one before they went full nazi..

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't vote for any of them, it's all a game of self promotion.

None of them actually have any morals, none of them can be trusted, none of them do what they say they will do and they never answer a question.

To think these weasels actually make decisions that effect Joe public!

No trust no vote and that is not apathy.

So here we have it...

choice same or change so lets refuse to change and then claim are the same...

anyone notice the flaw?

Having witnessed several governments over my years. It doesn't matter who you vote for they are all the same.

Tory, Socialist or Liberal they are in it for themselves, if you think for one minute these weasels care or think of the people. Then your as daft as a brush!

You can change the world without voting. People do this all the time .

If we had P R ? We could change things by Voting Tho

Has there ever been a successful PR government? I remember Italy had one before they went full nazi.."

Almost 100 years of Irish governments say hello!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it this way. As a politician you only have finite resources to use when it comes to persuading people to vote for you, and then maintaining those peoples faith in you.

If you're the kind of person who doesn't vote, for whatever stupid reason, why on earth would anyone waste their time on trying to court you, or represent your concerns? it's ok saying that but what if you live somewhere where your Vote of Choice doesn't Count ?"

Those places only exist in the heads of people who have convinced themselves thusly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nothing quite as obnoxious as the reasoning, and I use the term loosely, of those who peddle this nonsense about both sides are the same. "

Of course you use it loosely - your reasoning is always loose at best

There are three ways to vote - yes, no or abstain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nothing quite as obnoxious as the reasoning, and I use the term loosely, of those who peddle this nonsense about both sides are the same.

Of course you use it loosely - your reasoning is always loose at best

If that makes you feel better, you tell yourself that for as long as you need.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would vote for anyone who said, look folks we have to change, suck it up borrow tons of cash to be repaid over 50 years. BUT make 100 year investments, so the first 50 sees us all employed and living better on debt, the second 50 sees us living better in profit. Short term ideas get us nowhere except ever decreasing circles round the drain.

But that option won't exist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be tempted to be heretical and vote Lib Dem.

If the old liberals somehow got a seat again, them too.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"I would vote for anyone who said, look folks we have to change, suck it up borrow tons of cash to be repaid over 50 years. BUT make 100 year investments, so the first 50 sees us all employed and living better on debt, the second 50 sees us living better in profit. Short term ideas get us nowhere except ever decreasing circles round the drain.

But that option won't exist."

It's a nice idea in theory but as a country we are already around £1.7 trillion in debt so alas it's just not possible. The problem is that all this money we have already borrowed hasn't been spent wisely and has to be repaid

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"I'd be tempted to be heretical and vote Lib Dem.

If the old liberals somehow got a seat again, them too."

I use to work near the Lib Dem hq.

A few years ago they couldn't pay their milk or paper bills...

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

But that option won't exist.

Every country in the world is in debt. We aren't forced to repay it, the bailiffs aren't coming round. We have a choice of what we do still, and the Tories have used, and continue to use, debt as an excuse to follow their ideology of cutting funding to the most vulnerable (and often least influential) members of society.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

But that option won't exist.

Erm we do have to repay it and the interest on our debts is about the same as the education budget at around £45 billion per annum. The mythical magic money tree is a classic socialist lie unfortunately and will do nothing more than land our children with an even bigger problem

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

But that option won't exist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But that option won't exist.

I see the tories are shaking that magic money tree your talking about

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