FabSwingers.com forum: Perverts and Brexit, a straw pole.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As perverts, liberalists and swingers, I'm interested to see who is pro Brexit and who is anti. David Davis is spouting a load of bollox on telly right now....

Reply Pro or Anti please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Several years on these forums have destroyed amy naive idealist notion that swingers are also libratarian in their views.

But to answer your question. Remain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remain.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Straw pole says Leave the Lounge and go to the politics forum..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remain, I'm a globalist. Sadly regardless of my thoughts I've yet to see any tangible plan with any credibility to actually leave?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Straw pole says Leave the Lounge and go to the politics forum.."
:-This may get heated

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By *a72Man
over a year ago

london

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Libertarian swingers. Now theres a myth that gets shot down with ease.

Remain.

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something "

No you did,nt miss anything just treat such comments with the contempt they deserve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remain and does Davis and the Tories ever spout anything BUT bollocks

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Leave. Sooner we are out of the wretched EU the better.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby."
. All this' from a cpl who labels ppl racist and traitors for simply having a different opinion about brexit. Your not as open minded as you would like folk to believe guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing about being open minded requires meek obsequiousness in regard to all opinions.

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"Nothing about being open minded requires meek obsequiousness in regard to all opinions."

REMAIN as we're fucked if not

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something "
It is about politics but brexit has hijacked it people do not discuss other political issues much sadly

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something It is about politics but brexit has hijacked it people do not discuss other political issues much sadly"

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil? "

It is in the brexit forum after all.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

It is in the brexit forum after all."

I blame Brexit

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

It is in the brexit forum after all.

I blame Brexit "

Quite rightly so.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

It is in the brexit forum after all.

I blame Brexit

Quite rightly so.

And the Romans. Bastards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

It is in the brexit forum after all.

I blame Brexit

Quite rightly so.

And the Romans. Bastards "

What have the Romans or the EU ever done for us.Bastards.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

OP, asking for a Pole in a brexit thread, might be mis-interpreted. I think a poll is a better idea

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm happy yo take a new look at the situation as it stands today, ather than when the referendum was -

Remain.

It's clear that the tosspots with May who should be working for us are inept and the country will be duly hobbled..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pro but on the basis we actually leave and not just stay by other means !

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I don't really think that "what trade cartel?" is really a left-wing issue.

I voted remain, only because the notion of the Tories getting their hands on the UK unfettered fills me with terror. Ideologically, however I am against the EU and it's attempt to bring is ever closer to "peak capitalism".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leave

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

Remain although I definitely think the EU needs to reform some aspects.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Remain.

If there are problems with the EU then we need to get stuck in there and sort them out. A failing EU on our doorstep would be disaster for the UK whether we're in or out. A successful EU on our doorstep could also be a disaster to the UK if we are not part of it.

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban

Remain. Indeed, for me, it's the wrong way. Nationalism seems outdated these days and I'd like bigger countriees and fewer(no) borders. United states of earth is where we should be aiming. Too many issues now are global and we're getting caught up in petty squabbles between countries that should be one.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?

It is in the brexit forum after all.

I blame Brexit

Quite rightly so.

And the Romans. Bastards

What have the Romans or the EU ever done for us.Bastards.

Err roads

Plumbing

Ages since we've watched Brian - a very naughty boy!

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By *rand Central CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?

Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leave;

whether in or out, I will flourish

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

That's what it looks like from INSIDE the EU...which is where we are now. I'm not saying it would be better or worse if we were out..... that's the point NO ONE KNOWS!

For me I'm a realist. We (as a country) voted out. Therefore we need to get the best "out" we can.

Labour want a transition period. Tories have now gone down the same route. Messages coming from EU seem to be more in line with UKIP in that the 2 years of article 50 IS the transition period!

Can't see the wankers in government getting it sorted in the next 18 months!

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!"

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?

Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules "

Almost as if the Canadian government were buying the planes from bombardier, before selling them on to the airlines for next to nothing. Almost "free" planes. The US were right to challenge this illegal activity. Or "dumping".

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates "

What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Leave;

whether in or out, I will flourish"

Pride cometh before a fall

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

Err the EU is a superstate in waiting and none of us get to vote for the likes of Junker ..... end of

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion. "

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's well and good but you hardly voted for May either.

How do you reconcile the difference?

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"That's well and good but you hardly voted for May either.

How do you reconcile the difference? "

The only people who voted for May were her constituents. Nobody votes for a prime minister ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected "

No she was unapposed as leader by her party.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Err the EU is a superstate in waiting and none of us get to vote for the likes of Junker ..... end of "

The EU is nowhere near integrated enough yet or have the infrastructure to be a single state yet. They're getting there but it will take decades of reform and legislation. As for voting. If you choose not to vote in European elections that is your protected right to exercise. I have never failed to vote from the day I was old enough. Local, national or European.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.

What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?

Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules "

I know about the tariffs but how will this be any different when we leave the EU?

All the US are doing is protecting their own. Boeing gets tax breaks and huge US defence contracts so they get financial support albeit in a different manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected

No she was unapposed as leader by her party."

How did junker become an MEP?

I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected

No she was unapposed as leader by her party.

How did junker become an MEP?

I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids. "

The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.

And I don't read any of the newspapers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected

No she was unapposed as leader by her party.

How did junker become an MEP?

I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids. "

Juncker isn't an MEP.

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected

No she was unapposed as leader by her party.

How did junker become an MEP?

I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids.

The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.

And I don't read any of the newspapers."

Eh no the countries leaders chose Junker

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law."

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.

Eh no the countries leaders chose Junker "

The countries leaders (who are also voted for to represent us) sit on the European Council. They propose candidates.

The European Parliament votes from those candidates who is be president.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural."
How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2."

At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural."

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2.

At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law."
Is that a fact ?

Is there a link..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head."

If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.

But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!

Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates

You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.

Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2.

At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law. Is that a fact ?

Is there a link.."

No! Its a guess as yours was.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head."

Jesus, if American culture is spreading we'll all soon be dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?

Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?

And all without being Americanized! How can this be?!

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.

Asian and African countries have many cultural groupings. None are from just one group. Pick a country and I'll prove it. Even if you ignore indigenous groups modern population movements have changed things. Good example is southern Africa. There are massive Indian and Chinese populations there now.

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?

And all without being Americanized! How can this be?!

I'll bet you that their youngsters are wearing baseball caps and listening to rap music just like the kids here.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.

Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour?

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.

Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour? "

They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.

Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.

Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour?

They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since "

Unlike poor old Togo eh?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?

Faure Gnassingbe Eyadema succeeded his father, who died in 2005 after ruling the country (Togo) with an iron fist for 38 years.

The military installed Faure Gnassingbe as president, but following intense domestic and international pressure he called elections. Hundreds died challenging his victory in those polls.

Gnassingbe has won two more elections, in 2010 and 2015. Both were decried by the opposition, but the European Union, Togo's leading international lender, said the 2015 election "went off calmly, confirming the Togolese people's attachment to democracy".

Good old EU.....

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour?

They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since

Unlike poor old Togo eh?"

Togo was a small French colony in West Africa. They still speak French to each other when meeting someone from a different group.

I think the Chinese have a strong business influence there now? Not sure on that though.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Could you define a multi cultural country as one where you can not be prejudiced against for the language you speak, the colour of your skin, the god you want to worship, or the type of person you want to fuck. With those rights protected by law?

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By *losguygl3Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

" Could you define a multi cultural country as one where you can not be prejudiced against for the language you speak, the colour of your skin, the god you want to worship, or the type of person you want to fuck. With those rights protected by law?"

Not yet sadly. But it is where humanity is heading towards. Slowly though. In alot of places being different still generates a negative reaction. We as Swingers are on the receiving end of that even in our mostly enlightened country.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OP, asking for a Pole in a brexit thread, might be mis-interpreted. I think a poll is a better idea

First one to notice my mistake. For once we can't blame it on the Poles!

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