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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general "But then the defenders of the Tory party will try to put a slant on it all....wait and see
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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general "I think she should be locked up and the key thrown away she is discusting and selfish and more | |||
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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general I think she should be locked up and the key thrown away she is discusting and selfish and more"Why is she selfish...id lov to know your reasoning on it ?  | |||
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"she is a shinning beacon of democracy in a sea of right wing shit "Yep, something is very wrong when the the party of 'One Nation' 'conservative (small C)' democratic political values has become so much of an autocratic ultra right wing fascist organisation that it feels entitled to use public money to bribe the political mouthpiece of unionist gangsters to prop up its reactionary government and also feels entitled to make a power grab that will give it the same powers to change laws at their whim as Henry 8 had. If you want to see what a modern day hitler or Stalin looks like just look at May and her bestest buddy Donny small hands. The only thing that separates them is the veneer of respectability and probity that British manners give May. | |||
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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general I think she should be locked up and the key thrown away she is discusting and selfish and more"She is fantastic get them maggot tories out they are feeble scumbags | |||
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"that's the problem through out the UK too much "them & us" the UK voted to leave the EU, now we should all focus on working together as one UK rather than all this "brexiteer" nonsense. " | |||
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"that's the problem through out the UK too much "them & us" the UK voted to leave the EU, now we should all focus on working together as one UK rather than all this "brexiteer" nonsense. "
Yes Just a little tired of the negativity That lingers around here like a bad smell.
If folk would Just be a bit more upbeat and positive about things in général You would probably enjoy your Day a whole lot better!
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"And will the turkeys vote for Christmas?" Well my cranberry and sauce Will not be, but I might let them hang in There a bit longer as they are laying some rather tasty eggs at the moment! ?? | |||
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"Great news Now lets watch how the Scottish Tories approve of the DUP deal get the popcorn out This should show you how much Ruth Davidson gives a shit about you seen as she have become this new angel in the British media Would a woman that is the so called leader of the Scottish Try branch really tell her lot to vote for the DUp knowing full how the DUP feel about human rights and gay rights The UK is fucked!!! no wonder the rest of the world is sitting there laughing their arses off at this so called UK government who cant meet targets borrow more adding to the UK debt Then find out there is another election fraud going on with the Tories all thanks to channel 4 keeping the pressure on those scumbags. Wonderng why Scotland , Wales and N.Ireland dont vote Tory ? England should really catch up and get these dickheads out before you know it your out on the street living and having to use Couldn't agree more the longer there around the more they fuck up bunch if tossers god help us " | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. " But the Tories didnt bribe the Libs with 2 billion pounds did they....dohhhh | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. But the Tories didnt bribe the Libs with 2 billion pounds did they....dohhhh "This is where i will agree with you. I seem to remember the Tories claiming there was no magic money tree then where did they just so happen to find this bribe money ? lol | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. " Your quote sounds like yourself talking utter crap | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it? " | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it? "Just whom on here has said they want the country to fail..? Fact is both sides by and large voted as they did because that direction was the best way in their individual opinion for us to go.. accusing other's of wanting the country to fail does not add to the debate.. no one in their right mind does.. rightly holding people to account for their actions is a foundation of this democracy and the principle should be treasured and upheld not used by some as a means to threaten vile actions as has been the case of late.. such things should be condemned by all yet some on here are closed mouthed on it and even contribute to the hatred.. that is a sad thing.. | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it? "Ok you for sovereignty to be taken back to this parliament and away from the bureaucrats of the EU...im almost sure you never voted to get ever less of it if this vote goes through on the repeal bill... Be interested to know if you think this is a good or bad thing ? | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it?
Just whom on here has said they want the country to fail..?
Fact is both sides by and large voted as they did because that direction was the best way in their individual opinion for us to go..
accusing other's of wanting the country to fail does not add to the debate..
no one in their right mind does..
rightly holding people to account for their actions is a foundation of this democracy and the principle should be treasured and upheld not used by some as a means to threaten vile actions as has been the case of late..
such things should be condemned by all yet some on here are closed mouthed on it and even contribute to the hatred..
that is a sad thing.. "You are right, no one in their right mind would want the country to fail. Unfortunately there are some who are not right of mind. I quite simply do not understand it. | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it?
Ok you for sovereignty to be taken back to this parliament and away from the bureaucrats of the EU...im almost sure you never voted to get ever less of it if this vote goes through on the repeal bill...
Be interested to know if you think this is a good or bad thing ? "To be brutally frank. I do not understand what you are trying to say and even if I did, it bears no relevence to my post. I am simply saying I do not understand why some people want the country to fail. That benefits no one. | |||
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"I don't understand why so many want our country to fail. Whether you voted in or out is irrelevent now. What is important is working together to make sure we get the best out of the situation. Failure benefits none of us, so why hope for it?
Ok you for sovereignty to be taken back to this parliament and away from the bureaucrats of the EU...im almost sure you never voted to get ever less of it if this vote goes through on the repeal bill...
Be interested to know if you think this is a good or bad thing ?
To be brutally frank. I do not understand what you are trying to say and even if I did, it bears no relevence to my post.
I am simply saying I do not understand why some people want the country to fail. That benefits no one."I dont think anyone has said they want the country to fail...but they have said that they think the best deal will be inside the EU were we have influence not outside were we have to adhere to what THEY say for any trade deals...common sense i believe. I don't think you read my reply about sovereignty bth  | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. " For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably. | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably." | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably." Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably. Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. " Used public money not theres...and thats the problem | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably. Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. " Gina Miller is being funded by a considerable amount of wealthy ex-pats who are against Brexit. | |||
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"Good morning brexiters the sooner you realise many of us are not all in this togeather.Youll have a better day. "Well you know Bob, as soon as folk realise that we are all tiny tiny little insignificant pieces in some rather too big to comprehend controlling entity then we certainly will have a good day. The only truths in the world for me is I came out of my mum and I will end up in a box! I read everything with amusement because it really is not that significant and nothing one says or tries to do will make a blind bit of difference. Same old shit wrapped in a different package. I like to keep my glass pretty full, some on here knocked the glass off the bar years ago! | |||
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"I think she should be locked up and the key thrown away she is discusting and selfish and more" In what way is she "discusting and selfish and more" ??? | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? Why didn't she take legal action when the Tories formed a coalition with the Lib dems? It's because she is a vindictive trouble maker, a spoilt brat multi millionaire who doesn't like it when she can't get her own way, the EU referendum went against what she wanted and the general election result went against what she wanted now she is throwing an almighty hissy fit for the 2nd time in the last 12 months. She is haughty and so far stuck up her own arse she can probably see what she had for breakfast this morning. Bring it on though Gina because the tories have a majority with the DUP and will win the vote in parliament (as they did with the article 50 vote) so nothing will change apart from the scowl on Gina Millers face as she grows ever more bitter that she can't get her own way. Keep wearing the nappies Gina and keep sucking your dummy and keep behaving like the big baby that you are, because you won't be getting your own way yet again. For someone who claims that brexit was about a want for direct parlimentary processes running the country, you sure as hell dont like it when it actually takes place. Legal challenges by the legal system and courts, applicable at any granted time, independant or public, are one of the best ideas this nation concieved and exported. Now I understand that you are emotive and prone to acting defensively when someone challenges your narrow ideals, but come on, think empirically and legally. What is being raised is a natural part of our parlimentary process, to say anything else is to defend an ideological standpoint like an animal. Spouting the nonsense you typed earlier just paints you as the cliché for the brexiteer, hot headed, quick to act irrationally, and prone to try and sound like a stiff upper lip statesman but failing miserably. Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. " If you look at the details the case is actually being share funded, it is not all her own wealth. Also i'm happy to see a wealthy individual using their wealth to represent part the populace in court. A good government is one which is being challenged and holding its ground. You just dont like the idea that in a free and open democracy the government can be challenged. I suggest you go time travel to communist china or russia if thats the case. Finally if she is correct in the whole issue of no monetary bribes between the NI parliment and ours, then we technically have an illegal government. Once again, this is part of our own national policy and its taking a good lawyer to bring it up. All tge power to her. | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. " Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. | |||
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"Good morning brexiters the sooner you realise many of us are not all in this togeather.Youll have a better day.
Well you know Bob, as soon as folk realise that we are all tiny tiny little insignificant pieces in some rather too big to comprehend controlling entity then we certainly will have a good day.
The only truths in the world for me is I came out of my mum and I will end up in a box!
I read everything with amusement because it really is not that significant and nothing one says or tries to do will make a blind bit of difference. Same old shit wrapped in a different package.
I like to keep my glass pretty full, some on here knocked the glass off the bar years ago!
"On the big scale. I agree with you we are insignificant.Squabbling hairless monkeys on a blue ball orbiting an insignificant star in a stellar backwater of the milkyway.On the small scale individual acts of millions make the world a better place.Like a dripping tap,the bath will one day overflow. | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. I totally agree with you you have called it spot on " | |||
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"Good morning brexiters the sooner you realise many of us are not all in this togeather.Youll have a better day.
Well you know Bob, as soon as folk realise that we are all tiny tiny little insignificant pieces in some rather too big to comprehend controlling entity then we certainly will have a good day.
The only truths in the world for me is I came out of my mum and I will end up in a box!
I read everything with amusement because it really is not that significant and nothing one says or tries to do will make a blind bit of difference. Same old shit wrapped in a different package.
I like to keep my glass pretty full, some on here knocked the glass off the bar years ago!
On the big scale. I agree with you we are insignificant.Squabbling hairless monkeys on a blue ball orbiting an insignificant star in a stellar backwater of the milkyway.On the small scale individual acts of millions make the world a better place.Like a dripping tap,the bath will one day overflow. "Only if the plug is left in the plughole and the overflow is blocked. | |||
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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general "Great post. Democracy in action. Some people would be happy having a totalitarian state and then lecturing us on freedom and British values.  | |||
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"I know the she is hated by brexiteers for making the government have to go through parliament for a50... even though they will tell you it was all about bringing sovereignty back... but not their sovereignty... but anyhoo She scores again... this time the Tory DUP deal/bribe.... she was going to take the government to court saying that parliament should have voted on it Well... the government have climbed down and say that they will... which means we will get the spectacle of Tory and DUP MPs having to defend this even though a lot of them hate it Since she seems to be good at this "interpretation of the law" stuff.... I think she should be attorney general
Great post. Democracy in action. Some people would be happy having a totalitarian state and then lecturing us on freedom and British values. "I only hope someone asks about the DUP affiliaton with the KKK ( ie arms running) and its "outdated" beliefs. | |||
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"Yep, major issues should be discussed and voted upon. It seems our government dislike scrutiny. There is probably a very good reason for them to dislike scrutiny." It's a timescale thing. There simply isn't enough time to go through every piece of EU legislation in the primary stage before March 29th 2019. Dominic Grieve will table amendments as the Bill progresses through the various Committee stages, and as a previous Attorney General, he is one MP I do trust on legal matters. | |||
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"that's the problem through out the UK too much "them & us" the UK voted to leave the EU, now we should all focus on working together as one UK rather than all this "brexiteer" nonsense. " | |||
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"that's the problem through out the UK too much "them & us" the UK voted to leave the EU, now we should all focus on working together as one UK rather than all this "brexiteer" nonsense. " What fucks me off is certain remainers can't just accept whats happened and instead of getting on with it, have to bitch n moan. I suspect they hope the country(some on here too, no names)fucks up so they can smugly announce 'i told you so' | |||
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"that's the problem through out the UK too much "them & us" the UK voted to leave the EU, now we should all focus on working together as one UK rather than all this "brexiteer" nonsense. What fucks me off is certain remainers can't just accept whats happened and instead of getting on with it, have to bitch n moan. I suspect they hope the country(some on here too, no names)fucks up so they can smugly announce 'i told you so' " There are some with that mind set, but then don't confuse it with people are concerned as they dont hear their concerns being adressed, or rather being dismissed. On the flip side, some people on the pro-brexit side are not capable of seeing that if something does go wrong a lot of people could end up out of work. And I wouldn't like to deal with a lot of angry unemployed people. | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. " i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account! | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account! "But this is the guy your also talking about that wants to take away power from the EU....but doesn't mind one party ie the nasty party having total powers without the need of debate from our OWN elected parliament....strange how these brexiters think | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account! "Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit. I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue. He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case. I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm. | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm. "I have to agree with you never a constructive reply from him just rubbish about how they won the referendum and the election blah blah blah | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm. "Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white? | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white? "well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem... | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem... "Quite the little Englander right | |||
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"you'll get an answer, but it will be his usual load of revisionist bollox and outright lies ... same as the rest of his alt-reich fueled clickskrieg bullshit" I doubt it, he seems to be avoiding this thread like the plague | |||
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"the allies of the people, ie the judges, will get to decide ... they proved themselves to be beacons of democracy in her last challenge" If that's the case why are Remainers so desperate to cling onto the European Court of justice then instead of having the UK Supreme court being the court that has the final say after Brexit. | |||
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"the allies of the people, ie the judges, will get to decide ... they proved themselves to be beacons of democracy in her last challenge If that's the case why are Remainers so desperate to cling onto the European Court of justice then instead of having the UK Supreme court being the court that has the final say after Brexit. " It was the UK supreme court that ruled on the last case...Dohh Homer | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. " Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019. | |||
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"Yep, major issues should be discussed and voted upon. It seems our government dislike scrutiny. There is probably a very good reason for them to dislike scrutiny." What is not being discussed and voted upon in Parliament then? You don't give any examples? | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account! "Same view's as the men in pointy white hats? Do you care to elaborate? If you mean do I agree with them that Corbyn is an anti semitic racist then yes absolutely I agree with that opinion. That thread I posted about the KKK admiring Corbyn really seems to have gotten under your skin Fabio. | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem... "Where have I ever mentioned the colour of Gina Miller's skin on the forum then Fabio? Can you give an example or quote or link to a specific thread? You can dig all you like but you won't be able to find one because it doesn't exist. Why do you put "black" highlighted like that? Are you implying I dislike her because of the colour of her skin? I dislike David Cameron immensely by the same token do you assume I dislike him because of the colour of his skin? Nothing but a nasty smear from you here, I think you actually owe me an apology but I won't hold my breath for one from you. Never again will you be able to attempt to claim the moral high ground after this post. Also for the record I don't buy or read the Daily Mail either. This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever put on the forum, it even Trumps (pardon the pun) the one you posted about watching the US Presidential election results on CNN instead of Fox News last year. | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem...
Quite the little Englander right "It's you Remainers who are the small minded little EU'ers. We Brexiters want to get out there and engage and trade with the whole world. The EU is a small part of the world that you want to keep us shackled in chains to. | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem...
Where have I ever mentioned the colour of Gina Miller's skin on the forum then Fabio? Can you give an example or quote or link to a specific thread? You can dig all you like but you won't be able to find one because it doesn't exist. Why do you put "black" highlighted like that? Are you implying I dislike her because of the colour of her skin? I dislike David Cameron immensely by the same token do you assume I dislike him because of the colour of his skin? Nothing but a nasty smear from you here, I think you actually owe me an apology but I won't hold my breath for one from you. Never again will you be able to attempt to claim the moral high ground after this post. Also for the record I don't buy or read the Daily Mail either. This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever put on the forum, it even Trumps (pardon the pun) the one you posted about watching the US Presidential election results on CNN instead of Fox News last year. "Beat me to it. Slanderous post against you by Fabio. | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem...
Quite the little Englander right
It's you Remainers who are the small minded little EU'ers. We Brexiters want to get out there and engage and trade with the whole world. The EU is a small part of the world that you want to keep us shackled in chains to. "Dohhh | |||
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"We've had coalition governments before and supply and confidence arrangements in Government before such as the Tory/DUP are doing now, why then has Gina Miller never taken legal action on an issue such as this before? " The more important question is "does that matter?" The answer is no. Nobody is required to meet your criteria of consistency of actions in order to bring a case. Because that's not relevant, and asking the question is, to borrow a phrase playing the man, not the ball. | |||
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"the allies of the people, ie the judges, will get to decide ... they proved themselves to be beacons of democracy in her last challenge If that's the case why are Remainers so desperate to cling onto the European Court of justice then instead of having the UK Supreme court being the court that has the final say after Brexit. It was the UK supreme court that ruled on the last case...Dohh Homer "I know that. It was all over the television around Christmas time if you bothered to come out of your cave to watch it? The point is many Remainer MP's in Parliament were suggesting during the EU withdrawal bill debate that the UK Supreme court on its own is not good enough and we need the additional cover of the European Court of Justice. You can't have it both ways. | |||
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I know that. It was all over the television around Christmas time if you bothered to come out of your cave to watch it? The point is many Remainer MP's in Parliament were suggesting during the EU withdrawal bill debate that the UK Supreme court on its own is not good enough and we need the additional cover of the European Court of Justice. You can't have it both ways. "Dohhh | |||
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" I know that. It was all over the television around Christmas time if you bothered to come out of your cave to watch it? The point is many Remainer MP's in Parliament were suggesting during the EU withdrawal bill debate that the UK Supreme court on its own is not good enough and we need the additional cover of the European Court of Justice. You can't have it both ways. " Right Homer let me try to explain Fabio's original post....what you have tried to hijack. His post was about Miller winning again...IN THE UK SUPREME COURT....NOT THE EU COURT....for some reason you try to turn it around every time....its about now NOT 2 years down the road or however long it takes to exit the EU... | |||
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" I know that. It was all over the television around Christmas time if you bothered to come out of your cave to watch it? The point is many Remainer MP's in Parliament were suggesting during the EU withdrawal bill debate that the UK Supreme court on its own is not good enough and we need the additional cover of the European Court of Justice. You can't have it both ways. Right Homer let me try to explain Fabio's original post....what you have tried to hijack. His post was about Miller winning again...IN THE UK SUPREME COURT....NOT THE EU COURT....for some reason you try to turn it around every time....its about now NOT 2 years down the road or however long it takes to exit the EU... " And also nor against the Great Repeal Bill...or Withdrawal bill as the tories have changed the name on it...and also take note HOMER....THE UK SUPREME COURT RULED ON IT.....NOT THE EU ON....so they agreed with her | |||
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" Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? " funny you should ask centaur, because if you had any knowledge of the case (which i don't think you have much!) he decided to go into hiding and keep a much lower profile due to you and people like you who decided to send him death threats which the police to so seriously they had to give both him and miller police protection for a while..... " Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019. "firstly.... actually the a50 vote in parliament, since you brought it up, was to start the process of leaving and nothing more..... but we digress and secondly... its also DUP policy to support "the softest form of brexit possible as to not affect the northern irish economy".......... so is that your stance then centaur? gina miller had a further attempt to bring the government back into the legal side of the law, and territory because again she believed that the government were over-reaching in their powers and those powers again should be at the perogative of parliament.... and she has been proved to be again correct in that opinion BY THE UK SUPREME COURT so actually it can be argued that she is a great parliamentarian in that she believes that parliament is soverign above government......... after all, isn't that what you have wanted all along? | |||
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" Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. i think there is "another" reason why centaur focuses so much on miller bearing in mind some of his other posts in the last few weeks...... lets just say he seems to share some of the same views as the men with "pointy white hats"........
anyway, i do find it interesting that he things that the "bribe" since it is public money and was done in a way to circumvent the normal barnett formula process, that it shouldn't be looked at closer by parliament....
were we not told there was no magic money tree.... and yet, hey presto!!!!
after all, i thought it was about "bringing power back" and holding governments to account!
Bringing power back and fudge the rules/law and turn a blind eye to the governments actions as needs dictate for the good of Brexit.
I've brought this Miller - Santos issue up quite a few times to Centaur but as far as I know he has avoided ALL posts about this issue.
He knows he would have to admit he's been talking bollocks about this since he's been painting the court cases as Miller trying to stop Brexit, when that was never the case.
I doubt very much Centaur will give any reply to this as per the norm.
Perhaps he's a little bit on the spectrum and everything is very black and white?
well.... in this case is more the "black" i think he doesn't see her as "british"... and that is what he and most daily mail readers think is the problem...
Where have I ever mentioned the colour of Gina Miller's skin on the forum then Fabio? Can you give an example or quote or link to a specific thread? You can dig all you like but you won't be able to find one because it doesn't exist. Why do you put "black" highlighted like that? Are you implying I dislike her because of the colour of her skin? I dislike David Cameron immensely by the same token do you assume I dislike him because of the colour of his skin? Nothing but a nasty smear from you here, I think you actually owe me an apology but I won't hold my breath for one from you. Never again will you be able to attempt to claim the moral high ground after this post. Also for the record I don't buy or read the Daily Mail either. This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts you've ever put on the forum, it even Trumps (pardon the pun) the one you posted about watching the US Presidential election results on CNN instead of Fox News last year.
Beat me to it. Slanderous post against you by Fabio."Yeah and still a day later no apology from the clown who made the allegation in the first place, told you I wouldn't hold my breath. | |||
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" Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? funny you should ask centaur, because if you had any knowledge of the case (which i don't think you have much!) he decided to go into hiding and keep a much lower profile due to you and people like you who decided to send him death threats which the police to so seriously they had to give both him and miller police protection for a while..... Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019.
firstly.... actually the a50 vote in parliament, since you brought it up, was to start the process of leaving and nothing more..... but we digress
and secondly... its also DUP policy to support "the softest form of brexit possible as to not affect the northern irish economy"..........
so is that your stance then centaur?
gina miller had a further attempt to bring the government back into the legal side of the law, and territory because again she believed that the government were over-reaching in their powers and those powers again should be at the perogative of parliament.... and she has been proved to be again correct in that opinion BY THE UK SUPREME COURT
so actually it can be argued that she is a great parliamentarian in that she believes that parliament is soverign above government......... after all, isn't that what you have wanted all along?"Whoa there, you threw way too much for him to digest at once. I mean god, you even formatted your post so its not a block of text. I thjnk you blew centaurs mind with that. Lets not get on about how he's probably lost over mrs miller actually holding up the parlimentary legal system. | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019. "Still the "Miller" hatred & bile then
The point being is that the case was nothing to do with derailing Brexit like you stated on here.
You seemed to take it as a personal attack or something and was slagging her off for going against a democratic decision made by the people blah blah blah & Brexit will give us our sovereignty back blah blah blah yet you wanted May to have dictatorship style power to ram through whatever she wanted for Brexit. Miller wanted things done according to law, which the supreme court agreed with her...
Yet you still can't admit you we're wrong & your hate towards her is quite ridiculous.
You should be pleased someone is willing to put up their own money to challenge the government when their acting like they have been. | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019.
Still the "Miller" hatred & bile then
The point being is that the case was nothing to do with derailing Brexit like you stated on here.
You seemed to take it as a personal attack or something and was slagging her off for going against a democratic decision made by the people blah blah blah & Brexit will give us our sovereignty back blah blah blah yet you wanted May to have dictatorship style power to ram through whatever she wanted for Brexit. Miller wanted things done according to law, which the supreme court agreed with her...
Yet you still can't admit you we're wrong & your hate towards her is quite ridiculous.
You should be pleased someone is willing to put up their own money to challenge the government when their acting like they have been."He will never admit anything....he will just keep on posting the same old brexit shite over and over again....thats what UKIPERS do | |||
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" Nonsense. Remainers and Labour supporters have complained that the Tories used money to buy DUP votes. Gina Miller is using her own considerable wealth and money (which is beyond the means of most ordinary folk) to try to overturn a fair and democratic decision that the county has taken. She is trying to throw money at this to try to buy the decision that she wants. Yet AGAIN your over riding hate & bile against ANYTHING or ANYONE that may / could hamper Brexit totally clouds any form of rationale you may have. You ONLY focus your hatred on Gina Miller because she didn't want to leave the EU so you only see what she's done to be against your beloved Brexit YET you totally ignore the FACT that her joint claimant "Deir Tozetti Dos Santos" was for Brexit. This you have refused to reply to time and time again because it totally fucks up your argument that you say the Government won & Miller lost "in your delusional world" Miller & Santos won, the government lost & it wasn't anything about stopping Brexit, it's about following due legal process just like this new case, but you don't like the idea of following propper legal process if the result could be something you don't want Centaur. Where is Dos Santos in all the television and radio appearances then? I have actually answered this before on the forum when Fabio raised the same question months ago but as usual seems to have gone in one ear and straight out the other with the usual suspects on here. It's Gina Miller who has gone out of her way to get her ugly scowling mug on telly and her haughty stuck up voice on radio at just about every interview opportunity going. Where is Dos Santos hiding? Secondly Miller won the court case but it was the government who won the resulting article 50 vote in Parliament, something which must have annoyed Gina Miller immensely. So much in fact that now she's come back to have another go at the government. Let's hope she wins the case though then she can scowl some more as the DUP would be happy to help the tories on any Brexit votes in Parliament for free because it's DUP policy to leave the EU. Then Miller's reactions can become ever more hysterical just like the ever growing scowl on her face as we get closer to March 2019.
Still the "Miller" hatred & bile then
The point being is that the case was nothing to do with derailing Brexit like you stated on here.
You seemed to take it as a personal attack or something and was slagging her off for going against a democratic decision made by the people blah blah blah & Brexit will give us our sovereignty back blah blah blah yet you wanted May to have dictatorship style power to ram through whatever she wanted for Brexit. Miller wanted things done according to law, which the supreme court agreed with her...
Yet you still can't admit you we're wrong & your hate towards her is quite ridiculous.
You should be pleased someone is willing to put up their own money to challenge the government when their acting like they have been.
He will never admit anything....he will just keep on posting the same old brexit shite over and over again....thats what UKIPERS do "Yep dead right he is right so he believes every time won't have a bad thing said about his buddy farage We all no he talks nonesence with all this Wikipedia crap and google crap doh | |||
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"I admire her for what she has achieved. " This.. she has done it against a tide of vile racist and sexist abuse and threats to her safety from some who are shameful.. | |||
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"In the end all the actions being taken to stall or prevent us leaving the EU will be of monumental unimportance when we leave. Most ordinary working people's lives will not change. Gina Miller will continue to make a fortune charging for her services, and then be forgotten. She has had her 15 minutes of fame. " By focusing on the simplistic leave or stay it misses the points of concern, the methodologies employed, the right, fit and proper ways to do things and ultimately leaving without due concern for process and what is best for the nation and the people - whilst ensuring that the UK retains and improves its relationship with Europe who continue to be a major trading partner. Ms Miller has pursued a path that I wouldn't have, in the same situation - but having free will and choices are important to us : she has pursued hers and potentially for the benefit of others, not just herself. At this stage it's not about in or out, it's about the details of the exit and aftermath | |||
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"Most ordinary working people's lives will not change. " Makes you wonder why we’re doing it then ? | |||
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"it appears that Gina Miller has mentioned that she may be prepared to offer her services again to the government. i think it's very charitable of her to give mrs. maygabe and her flying monkeys the benefit of a free education in the workings of democracy. this time the schooling will focus on the illegalities of minority governments offering bribes to fringe political parties in exchange for votes. " Interesting and the population should thank her. The government have a key focus upon keeping their party afloat and much of anything else is a distraction in their view. | |||
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"it appears that Gina Miller has mentioned that she may be prepared to offer her services again to the government. i think it's very charitable of her to give mrs. maygabe and her flying monkeys the benefit of a free education in the workings of democracy. this time the schooling will focus on the illegalities of minority governments offering bribes to fringe political parties in exchange for votes. " LoL... Apparently if she does not get a satisfactory answer from No10 by close of business on Wednesday the Maybot will get another opportunity to spend millions of our taxes on banks of lawyers in an attempt to prove that using public taxes to buy a block of votes in order to remain in power is not effectively the definition of misusing the power public granted by offices to remain in those public offices, and that in itself is the definition of corruption. | |||
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