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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

scum ... everything about what and who he stands for ... utter scum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/07/nigel-farage-to-address-far-right-rally-in-germany

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"scum ... everything about what and who he stands for ... utter scum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/07/nigel-farage-to-address-far-right-rally-in-germany"

Does that really surprise you he is?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

no ... it was a cynical sounding "really?! ... i always knew exactly what and who he stood for were scum ... just saying "told you so" really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nigel was always the acceptable face of extremism.Nobody is surprised.I hope he gets good coverage in the media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all knew it lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

yep,we all knew ... ukip are just a thinly veiled disguise for racist scum to pretend they aren't racist when they are actually racist as fuck ... scum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yep,we all knew ... ukip are just a thinly veiled disguise for racist scum to pretend they aren't racist when they are actually racist as fuck ... scum"

Agreed they are its says everything about them

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"yep,we all knew ... ukip are just a thinly veiled disguise for racist scum to pretend they aren't racist when they are actually racist as fuck ... scum

Agreed they are its says everything about them "

Just look at the parallels between him and Moseley....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

why? ... there is no need to compare ukippers to historic figures to know that they are racist scum

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"why? ... there is no need to compare ukippers to historic figures to know that they are racist scum"

It helps - I don't think it is generally realised that they are to all intents and purposes, fascists.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Lol, i think this thread really does take the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous threads ever to be posted on the politics forum. Hysterical headlines from the loony lefty rag called The Guardian. The AFD are not 'far right' they are now one of the mainstream political parties in Germany, no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. Only far left loons would consider the AFD to be far right. The AFD want to offer the German people an EU referendum and are set to get around 50 seats in the German parliament and poll between 10% and 15% of the overall vote in the upcoming German elections, when you consider the Lib dems got less than that (around 8%) in the general election here in the UK then the AFD are bigger in Germany than the Lib dems are here in the UK. Oh and another LOL for good measure.

Nigel Farage even appeared on the BBC daily politics programme today to discuss his address to the AFD rally in Germany.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1ZhTvm76s

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Lol, i think this thread really does take the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous threads ever to be posted on the politics forum. Hysterical headlines from the loony lefty rag called The Guardian. The AFD are not 'far right' they are now one of the mainstream political parties in Germany, no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. Only far left loons would consider the AFD to be far right. The AFD want to offer the German people an EU referendum and are set to get around 50 seats in the German parliament and poll between 10% and 15% of the overall vote in the upcoming German elections, when you consider the Lib dems got less than that (around 8%) in the general election here in the UK then the AFD are bigger in Germany than the Lib dems are here in the UK. Oh and another LOL for good measure.

Nigel Farage even appeared on the BBC daily politics programme today to discuss his address to the AFD rally in Germany.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1ZhTvm76s"

I can't decide if you have read the Sun/Star for so long that all your posts come across in this way or you are a tabloid journalist.

Either way, as you may or may not know, the tabloids have a reading age of 7 (the broadsheeets have a reading age of 11), and we are all over 18 here, so you may want to structure your prose accordingly.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

and still the racists attempt to deny their racism

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Lol, i think this thread really does take the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous threads ever to be posted on the politics forum. Hysterical headlines from the loony lefty rag called The Guardian. The AFD are not 'far right' they are now one of the mainstream political parties in Germany, no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. Only far left loons would consider the AFD to be far right. The AFD want to offer the German people an EU referendum and are set to get around 50 seats in the German parliament and poll between 10% and 15% of the overall vote in the upcoming German elections, when you consider the Lib dems got less than that (around 8%) in the general election here in the UK then the AFD are bigger in Germany than the Lib dems are here in the UK. Oh and another LOL for good measure.

Nigel Farage even appeared on the BBC daily politics programme today to discuss his address to the AFD rally in Germany.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1ZhTvm76s

I can't decide if you have read the Sun/Star for so long that all your posts come across in this way or you are a tabloid journalist.

Either way, as you may or may not know, the tabloids have a reading age of 7 (the broadsheeets have a reading age of 11), and we are all over 18 here, so you may want to structure your prose accordingly. "

The BBC never labelled the AFD 'far right' on the Daily politics programme today. Only newspapers on the left like The Guardian and The Daily Mirror seem to have done so. Very telling about the way the lefty papers are putting their own propoganda slant on this story.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

the AFD are a right wing extremist party of racists voted for by racists ... exactly the same as farage, ukip and their supporters are extreme right wing racist scum ... they just don't have the spine to admit that they are racist scum

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


", no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. "

They want to essentially ban Islam in Germany, are anti-gay marriage, climate change deniers, and their leader thinks it should be OK to shoot migrants.

Sounds a bit more right wing than the Tories to me. Well, some of them, anyway.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Lol, i think this thread really does take the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous threads ever to be posted on the politics forum. Hysterical headlines from the loony lefty rag called The Guardian. The AFD are not 'far right' they are now one of the mainstream political parties in Germany, no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. Only far left loons would consider the AFD to be far right. The AFD want to offer the German people an EU referendum and are set to get around 50 seats in the German parliament and poll between 10% and 15% of the overall vote in the upcoming German elections, when you consider the Lib dems got less than that (around 8%) in the general election here in the UK then the AFD are bigger in Germany than the Lib dems are here in the UK. Oh and another LOL for good measure.

Nigel Farage even appeared on the BBC daily politics programme today to discuss his address to the AFD rally in Germany.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1ZhTvm76s

I can't decide if you have read the Sun/Star for so long that all your posts come across in this way or you are a tabloid journalist.

Either way, as you may or may not know, the tabloids have a reading age of 7 (the broadsheeets have a reading age of 11), and we are all over 18 here, so you may want to structure your prose accordingly.

The BBC never labelled the AFD 'far right' on the Daily politics programme today. Only newspapers on the left like The Guardian and The Daily Mirror seem to have done so. Very telling about the way the lefty papers are putting their own propoganda slant on this story. "

Who says I got the whole story from any one newspaper?

All you need to know is that Farrage is giving a talk to the AFD, and then you research them...

Some of us don't faithfully regurgitate the views of one particular publication.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


", no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK.

They want to essentially ban Islam in Germany, are anti-gay marriage, climate change deniers, and their leader thinks it should be OK to shoot migrants.

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....and have demanded the holocaust memorial in berlin be destroyed and have openly suggested that a german politician of turkish ancestry be executed .... afd, ukip and their supporters ... nothing but spineless racist scum

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"the AFD are a right wing extremist party of racists voted for by racists ... exactly the same as farage, ukip and their supporters are extreme right wing racist scum ... they just don't have the spine to admit that they are racist scum "

Your hysterical cries of racism mean nothing, absolutely zero, zilch, Nada. You sound just like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown did in their heydays, calling anyone who disagrees with their opinion a racist. Just like them you are a relic of the past and these childlike tactics of yours went out of fashion a decade ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the AFD are a right wing extremist party of racists voted for by racists ... exactly the same as farage, ukip and their supporters are extreme right wing racist scum ... they just don't have the spine to admit that they are racist scum "

they never will admit it....because games over then for them...as no one will take the seriously anymore

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

the scummiest part of these spineless ADF/ukip supporting right wing extremist racist scum, is that they never condemn the extreme right wing racism that the extreme right wing racists from ADF/ukip espouse ... it makes them easy to recognise to the rest of us decent normal well adjusted human beings ... it also makes them spineless scum

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"the AFD are a right wing extremist party of racists voted for by racists ... exactly the same as farage, ukip and their supporters are extreme right wing racist scum ... they just don't have the spine to admit that they are racist scum

Your hysterical cries of racism mean nothing, absolutely zero, zilch, Nada. You sound just like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown did in their heydays, calling anyone who disagrees with their opinion a racist. Just like them you are a relic of the past and these childlike tactics of yours went out of fashion a decade ago. "

Keep digging...............

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental


"Lol, i think this thread really does take the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous threads ever to be posted on the politics forum. Hysterical headlines from the loony lefty rag called The Guardian. The AFD are not 'far right' they are now one of the mainstream political parties in Germany, no more far right than the Conservatives or Ukip here in the UK. Only far left loons would consider the AFD to be far right. The AFD want to offer the German people an EU referendum and are set to get around 50 seats in the German parliament and poll between 10% and 15% of the overall vote in the upcoming German elections, when you consider the Lib dems got less than that (around 8%) in the general election here in the UK then the AFD are bigger in Germany than the Lib dems are here in the UK. Oh and another LOL for good measure.

Nigel Farage even appeared on the BBC daily politics programme today to discuss his address to the AFD rally in Germany.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km1ZhTvm76s"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

like i said, the lack of condemnation of the spineless extremist right wing racist supporters of ADF/ukip makes them easy to recognise as the spineless right wing extremist scum that they are

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"like i said, the lack of condemnation of the spineless extremist right wing racist supporters of ADF/ukip makes them easy to recognise as the spineless right wing extremist scum that they are "

If you're going to throw insults at a political party at least get the party initials correct.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

the lack of condemnation defines the extreme right wing racist adf/ukip supporting scum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is so much racism and sectarianism in Britain just now non more so than in scotland were the anti catholic brigade are getting away with murder and its all stoked by ruth davidson and the scottish tories and theres not a word said against it in the media

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

George Orwell

Notes on Nationalism

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15102373.Revealed__picture_of_SNP_candidate_on_pro_IRA_march/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

George Orwell

Notes on Nationalism

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15102373.Revealed__picture_of_SNP_candidate_on_pro_IRA_march/

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And your point is ? And if your trying to say that there is no sectarianism in scotland pls explaine how 2 tory councilors were suspended from the party in recent months and the catholic school children who were verbily abused in glasgow central station last month just because the were from a catholic school ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

George Orwell

Notes on Nationalism

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15102373.Revealed__picture_of_SNP_candidate_on_pro_IRA_march/

And your point is ? And if your trying to say that there is no sectarianism in scotland pls explaine how 2 tory councilors were suspended from the party in recent months and the catholic school children who were verbily abused in glasgow central station last month just because the were from a catholic school ?"

Oh and pls tell what atrocities the nationalist have done ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

George Orwell

Notes on Nationalism

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15102373.Revealed__picture_of_SNP_candidate_on_pro_IRA_march/

And your point is ? And if your trying to say that there is no sectarianism in scotland pls explaine how 2 tory councilors were suspended from the party in recent months and the catholic school children who were verbily abused in glasgow central station last month just because the were from a catholic school ?

Oh and pls tell what atrocities the nationalist have done ?"

And your link was a march comemorating the great scottish socialist james connoly who was murdered by the british for his part in the 1916 irish uprising it had nothing to do with the ira you really are scraping the barrel but thats whats to be expected from your ilk

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

My point is that there are a significant and vocal element of republican bigots in the snp and the independence movement in general.

The fact you don't even acknowledge their existence or actions merely confirms the extract from Orwell,s writings.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msp-sparks-anger-over-ira-freedom-fighters-comment-1-4354887/amp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My point is that there are a significant and vocal element of republican bigots in the snp and the independence movement in general.

The fact you don't even acknowledge their existence or actions merely confirms the extract from Orwell,s writings.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msp-sparks-anger-over-ira-freedom-fighters-comment-1-4354887/amp"

Really ?pls name the snp bidots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My point is that there are a significant and vocal element of republican bigots in the snp and the independence movement in general.

The fact you don't even acknowledge their existence or actions merely confirms the extract from Orwell,s writings.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msp-sparks-anger-over-ira-freedom-fighters-comment-1-4354887/amp

Really ?pls name the snp bidots "

And also i dont see you denying there is anti catholic secterianism in scottish politics ans society in general

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My point is that there are a significant and vocal element of republican bigots in the snp and the independence movement in general.

The fact you don't even acknowledge their existence or actions merely confirms the extract from Orwell,s w

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msp-sparks-anger-over-ira-freedom-fighters-comment-1-4354887/amp"

You come across as just another bigot who thinks its ok to abuse Catholics

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort.

Orwell again.

Read the links to the newspaper.

I wonder if you saw the lovely Lorna Taylor, the Stirling snp stalwart and her friends recently at the bridge walking last week with her friends in their Siol nan Gaidheal (Seed of the Gael) clothing.

You may or may not know that this proto fascist organisation was banned from the snp yet here they are re-emerging from their exile in full view of the First Minister.

But you probably never saw it, and if you did, you would see nothing wrong with it.

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Bigotry in any form has no place in society today, an individuals religious beliefs are their own and subject to their own conscience.

A private citizen should be judged on their works and deeds, rather than their privately held beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is so much racism and sectarianism in Britain just now non more so than in scotland were the anti catholic brigade are getting away with murder and its all stoked by ruth davidson and the scottish tories and theres not a word said against it in the media "

The anti Catholic brigade are alive and kicking on this forum!

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Every political party has its fair share of racists, hate mongerers, bigots and extremists. That goes for their followers too.

Name calling should be left in the school playground.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

ukip and their supporters are racist scum .... and they should be reminded that decent folk haven't forgotten that ukip and their supporters are racist scum ... which is why ukip and their supporters should be correctly and publicaly labelled as racist scum at every opportunity

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

I would like to think that there are decent folk in every walk of life. No matter what the colour of your skin, your religious beliefs or political pursuasions.

From my angle I see a lot of hate everywhere. I see a lot of hate directed at average folk that have nothing to do with racism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

the extreme right wing racists that make up ukip and their supporters have for too long attempted to divert attention away from the absolute proven fact that they are racist scum by trying to dilute themselves with the rest of the decent people in society ... this isn't working because decent upstanding people speak out to condemn racism ... which is why it is correct to publicly label the extreme right wing ukippers and their supporters as racist scum whenever they try to deny their racist scum agenda

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

OK are there steps afoot to ban ukip as an extremist party? Or some guidelines somewhere that been issued to this effect.

I really didn't know this, rather shocking news for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the extreme right wing racists that make up ukip and their supporters have for too long attempted to divert attention away from the absolute proven fact that they are racist scum by trying to dilute themselves with the rest of the decent people in society ... this isn't working because decent upstanding people speak out to condemn racism ... which is why it is correct to publicly label the extreme right wing ukippers and their supporters as racist scum whenever they try to deny their racist scum agenda "

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Then again there are racists in every walk of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Then again there are racists in every walk of life."

Agreed but then again parties like UKIP tend to attract the knuckle draggers.

Once they find out there not raciest enough they then move on to groups like the EDL etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give farage and right wing extremists as much rope as is possible.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"OK are there steps afoot to ban ukip as an extremist party? Or some guidelines somewhere that been issued to this effect.

I really didn't know this, rather shocking news for me. "

There are no plans to ban ukip as a party. The OP has an agenda and completely ignores the vile anti semitic racism that goes on in the far left wing of the Labour party. There are some decent folk in the Labour party like Kate Hoey and Frank Field but the Labour party does harbour it's own fair share of anti semitic racist scum amongst MP's like Naz Shah and plenty of Labour supporters too, they should be called out for it and condemned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Defender of the racists is back....not condemning all racists but using others to justify it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

as already stated and proven as fact, the extreme right wing ukip supporting racist scum are easy to recognise by their avoidance of condemning the extremist right wing ukip and their supporters as racist scum

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

I very much doubt that any of you here have actually met any real racists. I have and defended myself admirably against NF skinheads openly abusing my then Asian girlfriend.

Most ukip people I have met have been very decent folk, most labour people I meet are very decent folk, along with conservatives, greens, liberal Democrats, communists, anarchists all sorts. They all had an opinion, but never an agenda of hate. I find it rather odd the hate that is spewed out here on a swinging site. To be honest I don't really get it.

Anyway I wish you all well, I'm off to watch another Burlesque girl and listen to a bit of rock a Billy.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"I very much doubt that any of you here have actually met any real racists. I have and defended myself admirably against NF skinheads openly abusing my then Asian girlfriend.

Most ukip people I have met have been very decent folk, most labour people I meet are very decent folk, along with conservatives, greens, liberal Democrats, communists, anarchists all sorts. They all had an opinion, but never an agenda of hate. I find it rather odd the hate that is spewed out here on a swinging site. To be honest I don't really get it.

Anyway I wish you all well, I'm off to watch another Burlesque girl and listen to a bit of rock a Billy."

There are different types and degrees of racism, no?

While some people might not be the 'shout abuse in the streets' type, and are capable of being outwardly pleasant, it doesn't mean their views are any less awful...

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I very much doubt that any of you here have actually met any real racists. I have and defended myself admirably against NF skinheads openly abusing my then Asian girlfriend.

Most ukip people I have met have been very decent folk, most labour people I meet are very decent folk, along with conservatives, greens, liberal Democrats, communists, anarchists all sorts. They all had an opinion, but never an agenda of hate. I find it rather odd the hate that is spewed out here on a swinging site. To be honest I don't really get it.

Anyway I wish you all well, I'm off to watch another Burlesque girl and listen to a bit of rock a Billy.

There are different types and degrees of racism, no?

While some people might not be the 'shout abuse in the streets' type, and are capable of being outwardly pleasant, it doesn't mean their views are any less awful..."

So, by that you mean no one except yourself has a right to a view?

People from whatever culture, race or creed harbour racism.

This in NO WAY condones racism in any form but it's all over every society. FACT.

. . my views differ from yours, your views differ from someone else's. . . Does that make everyone racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I very much doubt that any of you here have actually met any real racists. I have and defended myself admirably against NF skinheads openly abusing my then Asian girlfriend.

Most ukip people I have met have been very decent folk, most labour people I meet are very decent folk, along with conservatives, greens, liberal Democrats, communists, anarchists all sorts. They all had an opinion, but never an agenda of hate. I find it rather odd the hate that is spewed out here on a swinging site. To be honest I don't really get it.

Anyway I wish you all well, I'm off to watch another Burlesque girl and listen to a bit of rock a Billy."
yes of course you are the only person who has ever encountered "REAL" racism.Love it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

like we have already proved on this and all the other similar threads, the extremist right wing ukip and their supporters are racist scum and easy to recognise by their failure to condemn racist scum, but instead they spinelessly attempt to divert the issue to others instead ... diluting their racist scum agenda is not acceptable ... the only option for decent normal human beings is remind them constantly that they are racist scum and will not be tolerated in a modern society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"like we have already proved on this and all the other similar threads, the extremist right wing ukip and their supporters are racist scum and easy to recognise by their failure to condemn racist scum, but instead they spinelessly attempt to divert the issue to others instead ... diluting their racist scum agenda is not acceptable ... the only option for decent normal human beings is remind them constantly that they are racist scum and will not be tolerated in a modern society"

Stop bigging yourself up, you've proved nothing.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"I very much doubt that any of you here have actually met any real racists. I have and defended myself admirably against NF skinheads openly abusing my then Asian girlfriend.

Most ukip people I have met have been very decent folk, most labour people I meet are very decent folk, along with conservatives, greens, liberal Democrats, communists, anarchists all sorts. They all had an opinion, but never an agenda of hate. I find it rather odd the hate that is spewed out here on a swinging site. To be honest I don't really get it.

Anyway I wish you all well, I'm off to watch another Burlesque girl and listen to a bit of rock a Billy.

There are different types and degrees of racism, no?

While some people might not be the 'shout abuse in the streets' type, and are capable of being outwardly pleasant, it doesn't mean their views are any less awful...

So, by that you mean no one except yourself has a right to a view?

People from whatever culture, race or creed harbour racism.

This in NO WAY condones racism in any form but it's all over every society. FACT.

. . my views differ from yours, your views differ from someone else's. . . Does that make everyone racist?"

What on earth are you on about? where did I say anything about only me being allowed an opinion?

Yes, racism is everywhere. It doesn't mean that people are irredeemably awful but it also doesn't mean that you can just shrug it off as something that's acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

ukip and their supporters = proven racist scum

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"ukip and their supporters = proven racist scum"
lmfao think you need a drink calm yaself down before you burst

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

if the racist scum of ukip and their racist scum supporters would condemn racism and the scum who espouse racism, there would be no need to call out the extreme right wing racist scum who are ukip and their supporters ... simple really .... either condemn the extreme right wing racist scum of ukip and their racist scum supporters or be condemned as ukip supporting racist scum

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