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"What a prat or man of principle ?  "Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician  | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician "Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political... | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ? "Yes he is  | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician "If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ... | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ..."What is your opinion of him?? | |||
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"What a stupid thread! You don't want it to be political, but you want us to comment on the man. How many of us have met him? None I guess. How can we comment on what he is like as a human being without meeting him? All we know of him is what is being written about him in the media, almost all of which relates to politics, and all of which will be biased."  | |||
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"What a stupid thread! You don't want it to be political, but you want us to comment on the man. How many of us have met him? None I guess. How can we comment on what he is like as a human being without meeting him? All we know of him is what is being written about him in the media, almost all of which relates to politics, and all of which will be biased." The abortion thing was on GMTV live. | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??"I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships .... His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ... | |||
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"What a stupid thread! You don't want it to be political, but you want us to comment on the man. How many of us have met him? None I guess. How can we comment on what he is like as a human being without meeting him? All we know of him is what is being written about him in the media, almost all of which relates to politics, and all of which will be biased." A stupid thread eh,,,,, that made me chuckle | |||
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"Well soxy this thread is going down like an anti abortion speech at the feminist conference "I know good isn't it... | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ..."You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician? | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done?" . I agree that he has a right to say what you don't want to hear. | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ...
You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician? "He said himself his opinions on those matter were not political | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done?" I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" | |||
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"He's a self confessed practicing Catholic with very 'traditional' views no doubt based on his upbringing and personal choice. Do I agree with him? No. Do I think the reporting was driven to make him look bad? Yes. Like many in the public eye he's also a private person; husband, father, son. None of my business what his personal faith has him believe as long as his political being doesn't bring those choices into law. " Given a chance he would push for a ban on abortion, unfortunately you cannot separate his personal and political opinions. | |||
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"He's a self confessed practicing Catholic with very 'traditional' views no doubt based on his upbringing and personal choice. Do I agree with him? No. Do I think the reporting was driven to make him look bad? Yes. Like many in the public eye he's also a private person; husband, father, son. None of my business what his personal faith has him believe as long as his political being doesn't bring those choices into law. Given a chance he would push for a ban on abortion, unfortunately you cannot separate his personal and political opinions." . You can secularise your govt | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ...
You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician?
He said himself his opinions on those matter were not political "And you believe him? His private opinions will obviously affect his political motives . | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ...
You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician?
He said himself his opinions on those matter were not political
And you believe him? His private opinions will obviously affect his political motives . "I accept his word as being true to his beliefs .... I'm not arrogant t enough to presuppose I can interoperate his motives are other than genuine .... | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ...
You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician?
He said himself his opinions on those matter were not political
And you believe him? His private opinions will obviously affect his political motives . ". But that's why we have multifaceted governing bodies and not a king or Pope giving theocratic ideas | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" " I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question?" You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest " 'Personalise their responses' | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest 'Personalise their responses' "Suck my plumbs | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So what are we supposed to base our opinions on? He is famous for being a politician
If you struggle with that concept I cant really offer you any advice ...
What is your opinion of him??
I'm still processing his latest comments regards abortion and same sex relationships ....
His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own ...
You do realise that his views and opnions are only news because he is a politician?
He said himself his opinions on those matter were not political
And you believe him? His private opinions will obviously affect his political motives . .
But that's why we have multifaceted governing bodies and not a king or Pope giving theocratic ideas"The Queen and The Pope give 'theocratic ideas' that influence the way we we act & vote . They are still incredibly influential in our lives and government | |||
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"And he probably isn't interested in the votes from, or the opinions of cross-dressers on here!" What the fuck? | |||
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"And he probably isn't interested in the votes from, or the opinions of cross-dressers on here!" | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest " ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. | |||
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" When i see religious people in public life say that they think same sex marriage and abortion or not wearing the right clothes according to their code book is fine. I think, stop lying to me or stop saying your religious. I supported Tim Farran." Spot on , there is honesty and bullshit . Any religious person isn't going to condone same sex marriage and abortion if they are being honest . What we get is a view from them that fits with the current popular view , and that isn't their honest opinion at all . So the majority of religious public figures give us bullshit fed to them to keep them popular . | |||
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"He has always appeared to be a man who is not afraid to speak his mind and stand up for his views. He is respectful of his political opposition and has a mannerism that often appears outdated. Do I agree with his opinions. Not at all. Would I ever vote for him, probably never. If he was my MP, would I feel comfortable going to him with an issue, absolutely, I suspect he is a very good constituency MP who fights for each of his constituents no matter who they are. As I said, not of my political leaning but we could do with a few more politicians with principles, no matter what those principles are! " I can never get my head round this idea that having principles is always a good thing. It very much depends on what the principles are. Hitler was a very principled politician. His principles led to him killing millions of people. Very few politicians would follow their principles to that extent. We don't admire him for that because his principles were abhorrent. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion." I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" " Yes ok, whatever. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever." How magnanimous | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous " You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it." He is both a man of principle and a prat. It's his principles that make him a prat. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it." Again I shall reiterate the question was not loaded it was intended to stimulate discussions .... If you are unable or unwilling to grasp that I care not,please be advised it wouldn't be the first time you've challenged me on a thread where rather than enter into the spirit of debate you've demonstrated your appetite for personalised contradiction.... | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it. Again I shall reiterate the question was not loaded it was intended to stimulate discussions .... If you are unable or unwilling to grasp that I care not,please be advised it wouldn't be the first time you've challenged me on a thread where rather than enter into the spirit of debate you've demonstrated your appetite for personalised methanol.... " Lol | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it. Again I shall reiterate the question was not loaded it was intended to stimulate discussions .... If you are unable or unwilling to grasp that I care not,please be advised it wouldn't be the first time you've challenged me on a thread where rather than enter into the spirit of debate you've demonstrated your appetite for personalised methanol.... Lol" That's better ,,,, | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it. Again I shall reiterate the question was not loaded it was intended to stimulate discussions .... If you are unable or unwilling to grasp that I care not,please be advised it wouldn't be the first time you've challenged me on a thread where rather than enter into the spirit of debate you've demonstrated your appetite for personalised methanol.... Lol" Sorry, you have a better memory than me. It's ok. If you don't want to answer the question, that fine. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" " Is Jacob Rees Mogg a pratt??  | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Is Jacob Rees Mogg a pratt?? "Principled I'd say. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest ?? Personalise ? I appreciate what your intention may have been. But you asked a question in your opening post. I don't know why you refuse to answer your own question. As for me I would say he is very principled though I do.not agree with his views with regard the topic under discussion. I have answered the question .... I'll repeat it for you "His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" Yes ok, whatever. How magnanimous You posed the question and you can say what you like, but you for some reason will not say whether you believe him to be a prat or principled - which was the question you posed in your first comment. I've answered it. Again I shall reiterate the question was not loaded it was intended to stimulate discussions .... If you are unable or unwilling to grasp that I care not,please be advised it wouldn't be the first time you've challenged me on a thread where rather than enter into the spirit of debate you've demonstrated your appetite for personalised methanol.... Lol Sorry, you have a better memory than me. It's ok. If you don't want to answer the question, that fine." Repetition wont win the day and yes I have an eidetic memory  | |||
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"Perhaps op you should have worded your opening comment a bit more carefully, it did certainly cause some initial confusion. " It was purely intentional ..... I have a reputation as a mischief maker to maintain | |||
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"Well I don't think Mogg is a prat but ... ." I defy anyone to quote me saying I think he is a prat,,,,, | |||
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"he's an arrogant cock .... he repeatedly refused to give an answer to a direct question .... that shows not only a distinct lack of principles, it showed a huge lack of respect to the electorate " Mmm who does that remind me of ? However isn't that the case with the majority of politicians ? | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ? "The man is a complete shit whose principles like himself should be flushed down a sewer. You cannot separate him from his politics for the simple reason that he is a multi millionaire MP who sees nothing wrong with cutting wages benefits and services for the vast majority of us and claiming over £8 million in grants (benefits) to fix up his aristo wives country pile while lecturing us on how we need to be more self reliant. The man is a total arse! | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
The man is a complete shit whose principles like himself should be flushed down a sewer.
You cannot separate him from his politics for the simple reason that he is a multi millionaire MP who sees nothing wrong with cutting wages benefits and services for the vast majority of us and claiming over £8 million in grants (benefits) to fix up his aristo wives country pile while lecturing us on how we need to be more self reliant.
The man is a total arse!"Couldnt have put it better myself | |||
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"Reading some of the thread above it seems some people would rather have politicians with no principles and that just say whatever ever will get them elected. I'd much rather have politicians with principles even ones I disagree with so I know what to expect if they get into power. " Exactly. He has been open and honest. Now I know I could never support him as our principles clash. | |||
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"Why is abortion becoming seen as an undeniable human right? My own view is mixed...you can't deny the potential of a would of been life but i'd probably be first to opt for it if i got the wrong girl preggers. Who here would prefer to have been aborted? Luckily we have condoms and the morning after pill. Food for thought!" Completely understand what you are saying. Im an atheist/agnostic but view most cases of abortion as unethical. Yet at the same point I believe that given the consultation prior to an abortion, any which happen must be nessesary or the most pragmatic option. | |||
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"Why is abortion becoming seen as an undeniable human right? My own view is mixed...you can't deny the potential of a would of been life but i'd probably be first to opt for it if i got the wrong girl preggers. Who here would prefer to have been aborted? Luckily we have condoms and the morning after pill. Food for thought! Completely understand what you are saying. Im an atheist/agnostic but view most cases of abortion as unethical. Yet at the same point I believe that given the consultation prior to an abortion, any which happen must be nessesary or the most pragmatic option." He is a bigot. His views on abortion and same sex marriage are in the headlines at the moment, but his views on most things are regressive, divisive and deeply unpleasant. Still, he's entitled to his opinion. Unfortunately, he is in a position of power and influence | |||
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"Why is abortion becoming seen as an undeniable human right? My own view is mixed...you can't deny the potential of a would of been life but i'd probably be first to opt for it if i got the wrong girl preggers. Who here would prefer to have been aborted? Luckily we have condoms and the morning after pill. Food for thought! Completely understand what you are saying. Im an atheist/agnostic but view most cases of abortion as unethical. Yet at the same point I believe that given the consultation prior to an abortion, any which happen must be nessesary or the most pragmatic option. He is a bigot. His views on abortion and same sex marriage are in the headlines at the moment, but his views on most things are regressive, divisive and deeply unpleasant. Still, he's entitled to his opinion. Unfortunately, he is in a position of power and influence" One of my biggest concerns is that he is a big advocate of zero hour contracts! I personally think the sooner they are dead and buried the better. | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ? "Both, they're not mutually exclusive. | |||
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"So do you agree with him or not, and if so why? How much processing is there to be done? I see you chose to ignore my previous remark " His opinions on those subjects are poles apart from my own" I do t think he ignored your remark. Your question was, is he a prat or principled. You hav'nt answered your own question? You seem to be missing the point of creating a topic for debate... The thread is intended to stimulate or provoke a healthy thought exchange .... Individuals who try and personalise their responses don't interest me in the slightest 'Personalise their responses'
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"Man of principle, I do have respect for his honesty in not ducking the question or altering his views to suit popular opinion like so many other politicians have done. I do think he made his point well and respectfully." That's true. I didn't like what I was hearing one little bit, but he does come across as a rarity in politics, in that he gives straight answers to whatever he gets asked. He certainly appears to have great integrity if noting else. | |||
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"Why is abortion becoming seen as an undeniable human right? My own view is mixed...you can't deny the potential of a would of been life but i'd probably be first to opt for it if i got the wrong girl preggers. Who here would prefer to have been aborted? Luckily we have condoms and the morning after pill. Food for thought! Completely understand what you are saying. Im an atheist/agnostic but view most cases of abortion as unethical. Yet at the same point I believe that given the consultation prior to an abortion, any which happen must be nessesary or the most pragmatic option. He is a bigot. His views on abortion and same sex marriage are in the headlines at the moment, but his views on most things are regressive, divisive and deeply unpleasant. Still, he's entitled to his opinion. Unfortunately, he is in a position of power and influence One of my biggest concerns is that he is a big advocate of zero hour contracts! I personally think the sooner they are dead and buried the better." Zero hours contracts can be a disgraceful abuse, but they are still preferable for some. I'm on one with my employer and work to an electronic diary where I can block out days I don't want to work, or where I have something on - maybe going to a Cricket match to watch England for instance. No mortgage now, so money isn't quite the motivation it used to be, so rarely choose to work more than four days a week. Has given me loads more flexibility and quality of life. Would agree with you in that it can be used in a very negative way too though, but there are some jobs it works very well in. For the record my employer has asked if i'd like to become full-time on several occasions, but i'm steadfastly against it. | |||
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"He's a self confessed practicing Catholic with very 'traditional' views no doubt based on his upbringing and personal choice. Do I agree with him? No. Do I think the reporting was driven to make him look bad? Yes. Like many in the public eye he's also a private person; husband, father, son. None of my business what his personal faith has him believe as long as his political being doesn't bring those choices into law. " What a breath of fresh air | |||
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"The man has a family unlike most western leaders so has a vested interest in the future." The man is proud of the fact that he has never changed a nappy in his life (apparently he has a wife for that). Is that not the definition of a deadbeat dad and misogynistic husband? | |||
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So why did you post in the politics forum?"If you read the first few posts you would have realised the OP did not. This thread started life elsewhere and was kicked down to us in the political basement because it failed to meet the quality threshold of marry, snog, avoid that is required in the lounge. | |||
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"Man of principle, I do have respect for his honesty in not ducking the question or altering his views to suit popular opinion like so many other politicians have done. I do think he made his point well and respectfully. That's true. I didn't like what I was hearing one little bit, but he does come across as a rarity in politics, in that he gives straight answers to whatever he gets asked. He certainly appears to have great integrity if noting else." . I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward "Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
". I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet. I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology. Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit. Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe "Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix. | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix."But they do mix....as The DUP says...hes a toff and shouldn't be anywhere near decent human beings with his thoughts | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe "But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent ". What would you prefer Muslims that say what they think open and honestly or Muslims that just keep quiet about what they really think?. Same goes with mogg I disagree with everything he says on it but you can't change people's thinking unless you know where there thinking lies. I'm really not shocked by what said, it's standard thinking in most Catholic countries like Italy, Spain, Ireland, Poland it's standard thinking in northern Ireland amongst protestants. We've fought theocratic ideology for hundreds of years to get a culture where the majority no longer think of homosexualities or abortion as sin, I've said on many times how important secularism is for countries. Cheap shots on your part about racism are just that | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent .
What would you prefer Muslims that say what they think open and honestly or Muslims that just keep quiet about what they really think?. Same goes with mogg I disagree with everything he says on it but you can't change people's thinking unless you know where there thinking lies.
I'm really not shocked by what said, it's standard thinking in most Catholic countries like Italy, Spain, Ireland, Poland it's standard thinking in northern Ireland amongst protestants.
We've fought theocratic ideology for hundreds of years to get a culture where the majority no longer think of homosexualities or abortion as sin, I've said on many times how important secularism is for countries.
Cheap shots on your part about racism are just that"Not really i think all rhetoric like his should be kept quite....the analogy was if it had been muslims saying it people would be up in arms | |||
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"The man has a family unlike most western leaders so has a vested interest in the future. The man is proud of the fact that he has never changed a nappy in his life (apparently he has a wife for that). Is that not the definition of a deadbeat dad and misogynistic husband? " That's silly and shows how stretched and hackneyed the word misogynistic has become (thanks feminist media) Old school and outdated sure Woman hating.... Get real | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent .
What would you prefer Muslims that say what they think open and honestly or Muslims that just keep quiet about what they really think?. Same goes with mogg I disagree with everything he says on it but you can't change people's thinking unless you know where there thinking lies.
I'm really not shocked by what said, it's standard thinking in most Catholic countries like Italy, Spain, Ireland, Poland it's standard thinking in northern Ireland amongst protestants.
We've fought theocratic ideology for hundreds of years to get a culture where the majority no longer think of homosexualities or abortion as sin, I've said on many times how important secularism is for countries.
Cheap shots on your part about racism are just that
Not really i think all rhetoric like his should be kept quite....the analogy was if it had been muslims saying it people would be up in arms ". Yeah like there's no thread full of people like you and I up in arms about it? The only difference is i stand by his right to say it and think it and I prefer he did, where as you wish to silence anybody from saying anything you dislike or you think might offend you or anybody you think it will. | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent .
What would you prefer Muslims that say what they think open and honestly or Muslims that just keep quiet about what they really think?. Same goes with mogg I disagree with everything he says on it but you can't change people's thinking unless you know where there thinking lies.
I'm really not shocked by what said, it's standard thinking in most Catholic countries like Italy, Spain, Ireland, Poland it's standard thinking in northern Ireland amongst protestants.
We've fought theocratic ideology for hundreds of years to get a culture where the majority no longer think of homosexualities or abortion as sin, I've said on many times how important secularism is for countries.
Cheap shots on your part about racism are just that
Not really i think all rhetoric like his should be kept quite....the analogy was if it had been muslims saying it people would be up in arms .
Yeah like there's no thread full of people like you and I up in arms about it?
The only difference is i stand by his right to say it and think it and I prefer he did, where as you wish to silence anybody from saying anything you dislike or you think might offend you or anybody you think it will.
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
But isnt his thoughts as bad as some islamics ? or is his ok cos hes an English gent .
What would you prefer Muslims that say what they think open and honestly or Muslims that just keep quiet about what they really think?. Same goes with mogg I disagree with everything he says on it but you can't change people's thinking unless you know where there thinking lies.
I'm really not shocked by what said, it's standard thinking in most Catholic countries like Italy, Spain, Ireland, Poland it's standard thinking in northern Ireland amongst protestants.
We've fought theocratic ideology for hundreds of years to get a culture where the majority no longer think of homosexualities or abortion as sin, I've said on many times how important secularism is for countries.
Cheap shots on your part about racism are just that
Not really i think all rhetoric like his should be kept quite....the analogy was if it had been muslims saying it people would be up in arms .
Yeah like there's no thread full of people like you and I up in arms about it?
The only difference is i stand by his right to say it and think it and I prefer he did, where as you wish to silence anybody from saying anything you dislike or you think might offend you or anybody you think it will.
Yeah of course he does....but not when hes got the power to influence people.....i call you a hypocrite tbh ". You can call me what you like, this was my whole point, however under your philosophy you'd be taken to the gulag for offending me or saying something that somebody disagrees with | |||
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" to mr rees-mog Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies tofrench, but not irish. Can you clarify? Why can't I own irish ? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your adoring fan," Open letter to him in the house of commons, copies to all the major daily papers, BBC, ITV... and of course the PM and Andrew Marr asking if any of them would like to comment? You could also send a copy to Richard Dawkins I am sure he would have something to say. | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix.
But they do mix....as The DUP says...hes a toff and shouldn't be anywhere near decent human beings with his thoughts "It is his opinion and belief and he is entitled to it. I don't agree with it but wont lose any sleep over it. | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix.
But they do mix....as The DUP says...hes a toff and shouldn't be anywhere near decent human beings with his thoughts
It is his opinion and belief and he is entitled to it. I don't agree with it but wont lose any sleep over it."Me niether but id bet my house on it if a muslim leader or wanna be was saying ....you wouldnt be so relaxed about it | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix.
But they do mix....as The DUP says...hes a toff and shouldn't be anywhere near decent human beings with his thoughts
It is his opinion and belief and he is entitled to it. I don't agree with it but wont lose any sleep over it.
Me niether but id bet my house on it if a muslim leader or wanna be was saying ....you wouldnt be so relaxed about it "I'll take that bet, thanks. How much is a house in Grimsby these days? I will be putting it straight on the market. | |||
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"I actually totally respect the guy, I disagree with him on most things but he does at least speak what he thinks, too many people in life and indeed this politics forum hide behind their keyboards and fake profiles spouting their brand of hated on others without wanting to look bad themselves or face the repercussions of their words. So unlike them he's at least not a coward
Jonathan Pie agrees with you.
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I haven't actually caught his vlog on it yet.
I'm Catholic by birth myself I know literally hundreds of Catholics that hold moggs views on gay marriage and abortion, the fact that he's had the balls to state on TV in this modern phenomenon of "offended" !! Well I applaud him for it and let's face it, if Catholics are actually right in their faith they should all think those things, it's standard Catholic ideology.
Personally I think the Catholic religion like all others are full of shit.
Thank God he's not a Muslim otherwise I'd be labelled an islamaphobe
Saw him on Question Time a while ago and he spoke a lot of sense and had many good ideas. Politics and religious views shouldn't mix.
But they do mix....as The DUP says...hes a toff and shouldn't be anywhere near decent human beings with his thoughts
It is his opinion and belief and he is entitled to it. I don't agree with it but wont lose any sleep over it.
Me niether but id bet my house on it if a muslim leader or wanna be was saying ....you wouldnt be so relaxed about it
I'll take that bet, thanks. How much is a house in Grimsby these days? I will be putting it straight on the market."A hell of a lot cheaper than in Bexleyheath lol | |||
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"if christopher hitchins were still alive would've verbally mauled mogg by now" . Absolutely .
Hitch disagreed with all theocratic beliefs as I do, I really don't give a shit about your skin colour, what you say is more important, the great MLK was religious, I disagreed with his beliefs but what he said was wonderful and honest, I couldn't imagine that many people could have derived bigotry and hatred from his words unlike mogg who's Catholic doctrine is full of hate and bigotry (like alot of Catholics).
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"What a prat or man of principle ?
Neither, he is just another career and self promoting politician
Ok but I intentionally intended this thread to be none political...
So why did you post in the politics forum?"I didn't post it here..... It was moved here from the lounge ..... So c'mon say sorry ...... say how very sorry you are for questioning my integrity ...? | |||
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"Moggy represents those entitled to rule over us plebs.He represents the aristocracy the old school tie of eaton and the sneering political elite who wouldnt piss on a working class brit if he was on fire. The sooner this sort is gone the better.They are the true leeches in society whos stately homes are built on slavery and inequality and suffering of humankind. "well said couldn't agree more | |||
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"Moggy represents those entitled to rule over us plebs.He represents the aristocracy the old school tie of eaton and the sneering political elite who wouldnt piss on a working class brit if he was on fire. The sooner this sort is gone the better.They are the true leeches in society whos stately homes are built on slavery and inequality and suffering of humankind. well said couldn't agree more "Oh dear who said class war was dead? I'll book my slot for the guillotine. But having said that, JRM is an utterl and totally unspeakable tosser of the tosserest sort. Even though he does give good oratory. The problem is what he actually says... | |||
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"Moggy represents those entitled to rule over us plebs.He represents the aristocracy the old school tie of eaton and the sneering political elite who wouldnt piss on a working class brit if he was on fire. The sooner this sort is gone the better.They are the true leeches in society whos stately homes are built on slavery and inequality and suffering of humankind. well said couldn't agree more
Oh dear who said class war was dead? I'll book my slot for the guillotine.
But having said that, JRM is an utterl and totally unspeakable tosser of the tosserest sort. Even though he does give good oratory. The problem is what he actually says..."The guillotine is old skool.You'll family just gets the bill for the bullet in the 21st century.Or billed for the cost of transportation to the salt mines. | |||
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" Oh dear who said class war was dead? I'll book my slot for the guillotine. But having said that, JRM is an utterl and totally unspeakable tosser of the tosserest sort. Even though he does give good oratory. The problem is what he actually says... The guillotine is old skool.You'll family just gets the bill for the bullet in the 21st century.Or billed for the cost of transportation to the salt mines. "Oh that's OK then, we OWN the salt mines. I've wanted to see how they're getting on... | |||
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" Oh dear who said class war was dead? I'll book my slot for the guillotine. But having said that, JRM is an utterl and totally unspeakable tosser of the tosserest sort. Even though he does give good oratory. The problem is what he actually says... The guillotine is old skool.You'll family just gets the bill for the bullet in the 21st century.Or billed for the cost of transportation to the salt mines.
Oh that's OK then, we OWN the salt mines. I've wanted to see how they're getting on..."Its a win win then.You might even get a blister as badge of honour to impress giles and tarquin when you get out. | |||
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"All I can think is I hope they elect him as leader of the tories. As this will be a guaranteed way of kicking the twats out." Hes my dream tory leader.Hell get plenty of votes | |||
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"All I can think is I hope they elect him as leader of the tories. As this will be a guaranteed way of kicking the twats out. Hes my dream tory leader.Hell get plenty of votes "Yeah right...I hope so | |||
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"I didn't post it here..... It was moved here from the lounge ..... So c'mon say sorry ...... say how very sorry you are for questioning my integrity ...? "Soxy, you must have noticed that since I pointed out the#at the first post exchange was about why your post was in the lounge rather than here the poster has been conspicuously absent from this thread. This is his MO, he never admits to mistakes. However, have no fear, he will show up somewhere else in the not too distant future to make an arse of himself again. | |||
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"Or billed for the cost of transportation to the salt mines. "Have you been in a salt mine? They are very pleasant you know, clean, dry, constant temperature and not at all claustrophobic. If you write to Compass Minerals (was ICI Brunner Mond) and apply you can go on a tour of the Winsford (Cheshire) mine which is HUGE! And the oldest working mine in Britain.
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"If moggy is standing up for christanity.Tell me where is his opposition to welfare cuts didnt jesus love the poor and go out of his way to help them.Also Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers.Why does moggy always vote for miltary intervention and we also have the problem of him pushing that camel through the eye of the needle for himself and his chums. Hes a plastic cherry picking Christian so sayeth bob. "hail Bob the almighty | |||
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"If moggy is standing up for christanity.Tell me where is his opposition to welfare cuts didnt jesus love the poor and go out of his way to help them.Also Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers.Why does moggy always vote for miltary intervention and we also have the problem of him pushing that camel through the eye of the needle for himself and his chums. Hes a plastic cherry picking Christian so sayeth bob. ". Sadly Bob Christianity isn't based on the teachings of Jesus, if it were and everybody followed it the world might be a slightly better place | |||
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"If moggy is standing up for christanity.Tell me where is his opposition to welfare cuts didnt jesus love the poor and go out of his way to help them.Also Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers.Why does moggy always vote for miltary intervention and we also have the problem of him pushing that camel through the eye of the needle for himself and his chums. Hes a plastic cherry picking Christian so sayeth bob. .
Sadly Bob Christianity isn't based on the teachings of Jesus, if it were and everybody followed it the world might be a slightly better place"The self righteous are blind to the righteousness of the teachings of jesus. | |||
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"If moggy is standing up for christanity.Tell me where is his opposition to welfare cuts didnt jesus love the poor and go out of his way to help them.Also Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers.Why does moggy always vote for miltary intervention and we also have the problem of him pushing that camel through the eye of the needle for himself and his chums. Hes a plastic cherry picking Christian so sayeth bob. .
Sadly Bob Christianity isn't based on the teachings of Jesus, if it were and everybody followed it the world might be a slightly better place The self righteous are blind to the righteousness of the teachings of jesus. ". Pretty much yea  | |||
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" to mr rees-mog Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies tofrench, but not irish. Can you clarify? Why can't I own irish ? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your adoring fan," hh Another West Wing fan! When President Bartlett gave some of these chapter and verse quotes to the "right-wing Christian radio presenter" Dr Jenna Jacobs , she refused to stand for the President. He really went for her and she was humiliated beyond measure. It's Season 2, Episode 3 " The Mid-Terms". Great show. | |||
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"I didn't post it here..... It was moved here from the lounge ..... So c'mon say sorry ...... say how very sorry you are for questioning my integrity ...?
Soxy, you must have noticed that since I pointed out the#at the first post exchange was about why your post was in the lounge rather than here the poster has been conspicuously absent from this thread. This is his MO, he never admits to mistakes.
However, have no fear, he will show up somewhere else in the not too distant future to make an arse of himself again.
"I'm sure the extent of his remorse is responsible for creating an emotional barrier that inhibits summoning up the courage to publicly acknowledge his contradictory fauxpas..... | |||
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"All I can think is I hope they elect him as leader of the tories. As this will be a guaranteed way of kicking the twats out. Hes my dream tory leader.Hell get plenty of votes "He'd get more votes than the Green party that's for sure. | |||
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"So by his own admission Mr Mogg has just acknowledged he benefits financially from his association with a company that manufacture and supplies drugs used to terminate pregnancies.... You can't make this shite up ... "Oh making shit up is second nature for self righteous Christian politicians . They know the plebs will still vote for them regardless of the hypocrisy.Because the bible tells them so. | |||
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"So by his own admission Mr Mogg has just acknowledged he benefits financially from his association with a company that manufacture and supplies drugs used to terminate pregnancies.... You can't make this shite up ... "This is a storm in a tea cup. The drug is produced and marketed as a treatment for stomach ulcers. | |||
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