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By *ethnmelv OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?"

Nah, it would be boring then.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?"

i would say yes if you start stating 'facts' to support your point of view..

although with some on here one can point them to the publicly available information and then they will ignore it or denigrate it because they are not open to new information which challenges their opinion..

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By *ethnmelv OP   Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

You're right, it is a bit sad though...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Which bit you unhappy with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was it me saying that the pogroms were not Stalin's doing?.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_pogroms_in_the_Russian_Empire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

OP...

Only if they do not say that what they say is their post is opinion...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol"

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lol

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lol"
His pointy hat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lolHis pointy hat?"

Big wooden stirring spoon?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?"
Well they should know a bit about the subject but people who just copy and paste articles and/or give a reference to some article they have read is very annoying.

You have to read many many articles to research a subject and posters that read the one that gives there point of view are just ignorant,somebody will read this and know I am talking about them.

We all have brains we should use them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Informed opinions aren't popular at the moment and god forbid you quote an expert.

Just say the first thing that comes to mind like .

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?"

I think so on the politics forum otherwise people can make themselves look a daft.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?

I think so on the politics forum otherwise people can make themselves look a daft."

We can all look daft, but opinion is good and so called experts can be pretty daft.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Should we expect people to undertake at least rudimentary research before posting?

I think so on the politics forum otherwise people can make themselves look a daft.

We can all look daft, but opinion is good and so called experts can be pretty daft."

Fact is better

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Of course fact is better, however it all depends where you get your facts from. I was always under the impression the only fact is the bit of skin between your arse and fanny!

Which would equate to every politician when they open their mouth!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Of course fact is better, however it all depends where you get your facts from. I was always under the impression the only fact is the bit of skin between your arse and fanny!

Which would equate to every politician when they open their mouth!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Opinions are one thing, facts are another. Some get confused between the two, while sometimes entertaining it can stop reasoned debate.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, everyone gets their facts from somewhere. Debate is great, however it soon degenerates into the usual who can shout the person down the best on here.

There is so much rubbish out there, so much spin and rhetoric that facts can be a load of fiction. The current state of mainstream news reporting and institutions funded by what ever political affiliation will distort the political 'facts' to fit their political agenda.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed."

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed."

Ok im going to give up here , every institution, think tank, university, report , paper what ever it is has a political slant and backer.

I take everything I Read with a pinch of salt. Not everything is gospel !

Hey lets all go out and buy a diesel car because they are less damaging to the enviroment! that was fact now its fiction.

Have a good day everyone. Lyon or bust !

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed.

Ok im going to give up here , every institution, think tank, university, report , paper what ever it is has a political slant and backer.

I take everything I Read with a pinch of salt. Not everything is gospel !

Hey lets all go out and buy a diesel car because they are less damaging to the enviroment! that was fact now its fiction.

Have a good day everyone. Lyon or bust !"

If you think it's better to dismiss all research out of hand before even reading it, then I think it is better you do give up!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lol"

Pot and kettle there eh Fabio. ...lol. Did you do any research before you rushed to post that ridiculous thread about that Bullshit Trump story a few months ago which was based on rumour and hearsay from the likes of 4chan and Buzzfeed?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lolHis pointy hat?"

Only at Christmas

Besides what have you got against pointy hats anyway? Maybe it's all those hours you spent wearing one with a 'D' written on it whilst standing in the corner of the classroom during your school days.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lol

Pot and kettle there eh Fabio. ...lol. Did you do any research before you rushed to post that ridiculous thread about that Bullshit Trump story a few months ago which was based on rumour and hearsay from the likes of 4chan and Buzzfeed? "

you mean like the wiretap story.......

don't worry mr KKK we aint forgotten......

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If some people researched before posting the political forum post count would be halved lol

More than half!

What on earth would centaur post about.... lol

Pot and kettle there eh Fabio. ...lol. Did you do any research before you rushed to post that ridiculous thread about that Bullshit Trump story a few months ago which was based on rumour and hearsay from the likes of 4chan and Buzzfeed?

you mean like the wiretap story.......

don't worry mr KKK we aint forgotten......"

It's Jeremy Corbyn who is Mr KKK, one of their heroes is Corbyn, lol. You voted Labour at the general election didn't you, how do you feel about voting for a KKK idol like Corbyn then?

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

CLCC, thanks for the advice, I obviously do not move in your esteemed circles of all encompassing knowledge.

I for one lead a very simple, hassle free life and to that end would rather keep it that way.

Lovely day, be seeing you...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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It's Jeremy Corbyn who is Mr KKK, one of their heroes is Corbyn, lol. You voted Labour at the general election didn't you, how do you feel about voting for a KKK idol like Corbyn then? "

as i said in the other thread... if you have to create a "moral equivalence" to help yourself sleep at night and defence ya boys in charlottesville.... then have at it and thats on you...

did you ever bother to watch your boys in the hbo documentry then... just wondered if i am talking to someone who actually saw it thru enlightened eyes... and yet what you professed to still not condemn.....

or you going to try and jedi mind trick people like ya boy trump did last night... i just thought it was even funnier when networks broke into his speech and were fact checking him as his lips were still flapping.....

well... i suppose as your boys say..."blood and soil"....

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed."
You can as the basis of there argument is all you need to know.

If you have a good broad knowledge of a subject anyway you can work from there,A discussion is not something that takes place with 5 hours between statements while you research the others statement.We are not acadmics we are not writing a thesis on the subject.If you or I was writing a thesis we would not put it here this is a simply discussion forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

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Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! "
Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world .

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed.You can as the basis of there argument is all you need to know.

If you have a good broad knowledge of a subject anyway you can work from there,A discussion is not something that takes place with 5 hours between statements while you research the others statement.We are not acadmics we are not writing a thesis on the subject.If you or I was writing a thesis we would not put it here this is a simply discussion forum."

I think you mean that you are not an academic. You don't know what the other posters do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world . "
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The paradigm shift was always going to be a dangerous road to tread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world . .

The paradigm shift was always going to be a dangerous road to tread"
But necessary for change.I think disruptive technologies will play an important role in the shift.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world . .

The paradigm shift was always going to be a dangerous road to tread But necessary for change.I think disruptive technologies will play an important role in the shift."

So will ARs and AKs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world . .

The paradigm shift was always going to be a dangerous road to tread But necessary for change.I think disruptive technologies will play an important role in the shift.

So will ARs and AKs "
Old skool tools.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I think it's hilarious when people rubbish research that they haven't actually read. Of course all research can be critically analysed, perhaps faults in their methodologies found, areas for additional research identified, research proposing counter arguments found etc. However, you can't do that if you haven't actually read the research that is being discussed.You can as the basis of there argument is all you need to know.

If you have a good broad knowledge of a subject anyway you can work from there,A discussion is not something that takes place with 5 hours between statements while you research the others statement.We are not acadmics we are not writing a thesis on the subject.If you or I was writing a thesis we would not put it here this is a simply discussion forum.

I think you mean that you are not an academic. You don't know what the other posters do. "
True but I am 100%certain that 99%are not academics,you might be.You say it in a sneering way so I guess your insulting 99% of us in your own way or trying to lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! "

Good analogy

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's preferable for reliable data sources to be sourced and ingested before posting.

The lack of credible references and understanding here does highlight the risks of power via our form of democracy though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use this discussion to challenge my own view and learn from others. I research when I am challenged. Otherwise I try to talk about my opinion and feeling. Trying not to state it as fact.

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By *isandreTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

We should be able to link to articles on the Politics forum. It would cut out, or at least shut down an awful lot of the bullshit.

Without it people post any old shit and can get away without being properly held to account.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"We should be able to link to articles on the Politics forum. It would cut out, or at least shut down an awful lot of the bullshit.

Without it people post any old shit and can get away without being properly held to account. "

I have asked a few time if at least .ac.uk could be added to the list of approved links, but have heard nothing back from the site owners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey Jonny..What you rebelling against?

I dunno what yer got!.

.

Angry people everywhere from all sides of the political spectrum and monetary divide, its like they can sense what's coming but don't quite know what to do about it so there finding things to grab onto...Ive visited a few abattoirs in my time and all the animals sense what's coming when that truck pulls in the yard, they all start fighting and pushing with each other, they can sense the end is near!! Nice analogy.I think we are approaching a global shift in thinking .I'm quite positive about what rises from the ashes of the old world . .

The paradigm shift was always going to be a dangerous road to tread But necessary for change.I think disruptive technologies will play an important role in the shift."
.

The biggest shift in the paradigm will be crypto currency, its the biggest momentous shift in power for 2000 years.

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