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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One delicacy to hit the uk market... Mmmmmmm, delicious.

Not sure what others think.. are uk shoppers easily gullible? If it's cheaper than British poultry

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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we buy chicken nuggets and 'portions' of meat that are basically scraps of meat glued together, so yes i'd say we are.

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"we buy chicken nuggets and 'portions' of meat that are basically scraps of meat glued together, so yes i'd say we are."

This.

Some of the produce in fast food outlets leaves a lot to be desired.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't they mean heavily chlorinated water. Sort of like Bleach. mmmmmm chicken and domestos. num num num.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't they mean heavily chlorinated water. Sort of like Bleach. mmmmmm chicken and domestos. num num num."
You have to question what sort of conditions these chickens live in, to require them washed in chlorine to be safe for consummation .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Don't they mean heavily chlorinated water. Sort of like Bleach. mmmmmm chicken and domestos. num num num. You have to question what sort of conditions these chickens live in, to require them washed in chlorine to be safe for consummation ."

Too right. Id feel bad about the low welfare standards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People buy what's cheap. Don't think the average British consumer is that much more discerning than the average American one.

This is all part of what made me go veggie in the first place. How the US allows animals to be treated is absolutely horrible and the practices it allows in order to rectify the damage done by that treatment results in meat with questionable quality. But once it's on the shelves the average shopper won't care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are happy eat unregulated food in usa that are not as high standard as in the eu, the effect of it are showed that usa is the biggest nation, uk is second.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are happy eat unregulated food in usa that are not as high standard as in the eu, the effect of it are showed that usa is the biggest nation, uk is second."
......Gobbledygook.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

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By *ex-a-frolicsCouple
over a year ago

Brizzle


"Don't they mean heavily chlorinated water. Sort of like Bleach. mmmmmm chicken and domestos. num num num. You have to question what sort of conditions these chickens live in, to require them washed in chlorine to be safe for consummation ."

Who said anything about chickens getting married LOL!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chlorine washed chicken is the least of our worries.

Fast food Nation, which I'm sure lots of people have read, details the beef and chicken industry in the US, and explains why their standards are so low. However the growth hormones they use are illegal in the EU, will be eaten by kids here soon causing all kinds of problems. It's worth reading up on.

I'll be going veggie for sure. As you can bet they will relax the food labelling laws after Brexit as part of the trade agreements.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)"

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One....utter bollocks as it will not be accepted.

Two... the latest ads from McDs and KFC give a good contrast.

McDs boast about only using prime chicken fillets.

KFC ... the whole chicken and nothing but the chicken.....so that's beaks, feet, claws etc....?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards."

The European food standards agency says chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat. In fact it's probably safer than the EU method of washing in cold water because the American chlorine method kills all Salmonella on the chicken. There is still a risk of salmonella poisoning from EU chicken as washing in cold water doesn't kill Salmonella on the chicken.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards.

The European food standards agency says chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat. In fact it's probably safer than the EU method of washing in cold water because the American chlorine method kills all Salmonella on the chicken. There is still a risk of salmonella poisoning from EU chicken as washing in cold water doesn't kill Salmonella on the chicken. "

You're missing the point (as usual). In the USA they wash chicken in chlorinated water as the main safety precaution. Washing in normal water relies on the rest of the production line being hygienic.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards.

The European food standards agency says chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat. In fact it's probably safer than the EU method of washing in cold water because the American chlorine method kills all Salmonella on the chicken. There is still a risk of salmonella poisoning from EU chicken as washing in cold water doesn't kill Salmonella on the chicken.

You're missing the point (as usual). In the USA they wash chicken in chlorinated water as the main safety precaution. Washing in normal water relies on the rest of the production line being hygienic. "

And yet you are still missing the point (as usual). The rest of the production line can be as clean as a whistle but all the clean cold water in the world won't kill salmonella. Chlorinated water will kill salmonella and the European food standards agency has concluded that washing in chlorinated water is perfectly safe.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards.

The European food standards agency says chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat. In fact it's probably safer than the EU method of washing in cold water because the American chlorine method kills all Salmonella on the chicken. There is still a risk of salmonella poisoning from EU chicken as washing in cold water doesn't kill Salmonella on the chicken.

You're missing the point (as usual). In the USA they wash chicken in chlorinated water as the main safety precaution. Washing in normal water relies on the rest of the production line being hygienic.

And yet you are still missing the point (as usual). The rest of the production line can be as clean as a whistle but all the clean cold water in the world won't kill salmonella. Chlorinated water will kill salmonella and the European food standards agency has concluded that washing in chlorinated water is perfectly safe. "

Safe as in the chlorine shouldn't hurt you. Not safe as in relying on it as your main food hygiene method you nondy.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

So why haven't I come down with salmonella here in the U.K. then? I mean, if it is needed as a safety precaution, yet we don't do it here, why aren't we all Ill then?

(Yes, I know the answer, because we make sure the production process is hygienic and don't relying on fixing problems at the end, like the yank process)

-Matt

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"So why haven't I come down with salmonella here in the U.K. then? I mean, if it is needed as a safety precaution, yet we don't do it here, why aren't we all Ill then?

(Yes, I know the answer, because we make sure the production process is hygienic and don't relying on fixing problems at the end, like the yank process)

-Matt"

Just because you haven't had salmonella poisoning it doesn't mean other people don't get it. There are many cases of it in the UK every year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it does end up getting imported and if people are that bothered about it surely they could just buy British reared chicken instead?

Anyway, Americans have been eating it long enough without ill effects and anyway people don't seem to question the quality of the chicken when they eat out or where it was reared (probably places which I'm pretty sure have less stringent standards than the USA)

10s of thousands of Americans die every year to food poisoning related illnesses caused by their poor food safety standards.

The European food standards agency says chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat. In fact it's probably safer than the EU method of washing in cold water because the American chlorine method kills all Salmonella on the chicken. There is still a risk of salmonella poisoning from EU chicken as washing in cold water doesn't kill Salmonella on the chicken.

You're missing the point (as usual). In the USA they wash chicken in chlorinated water as the main safety precaution. Washing in normal water relies on the rest of the production line being hygienic.

And yet you are still missing the point (as usual). The rest of the production line can be as clean as a whistle but all the clean cold water in the world won't kill salmonella. Chlorinated water will kill salmonella and the European food standards agency has concluded that washing in chlorinated water is perfectly safe.

Safe as in the chlorine shouldn't hurt you. Not safe as in relying on it as your main food hygiene method you nondy."

Just like many threads and subjects, if it fits his agenda then its the best way/method irrespective of common sense.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Nothing quite like having such high animal welfare, slaughtering and meat preparation standards that the last thing you do before packaging your products you wash them in disinfectant. But according to some here and our government we have nothing to worry about from US meat products.

It is not as if Monsanto (the US agrochemical and feed manufacturer) sold cattle feed that included ground up sheep bones and other slaughterhouse detritus to our beef farmers causing New Variant CJD. and even if they did break the 2 steps from the sun rule to inflate their corporate profits they would never do something like that again...

Anyone know which US corporation is really pushing GM? Anyone want to hazard a guess which agrochemical company is the market leader in GM products and is continually lobbying for deregulation? Anyone been paying any attention to what the Trump administration is doing to the EPA and the FDA?

To be clear, as soon as food starts being imported from the USA I am going to return to a mainly vegetarian diet only eating fish when I catch them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what's this thread all about??? The point is ???

Ps

I'm having my eggs on toast at this moment...

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"So what's this thread all about??? The point is ???

Ps

I'm having my eggs on toast at this moment...

. "

How there is nothing wrong with US chlorine washed chicken and how great it will be when we leave the EU and the US will be able to sell cheap meat to us...

It's more brexit winning...

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"So why haven't I come down with salmonella here in the U.K. then? I mean, if it is needed as a safety precaution, yet we don't do it here, why aren't we all Ill then?

(Yes, I know the answer, because we make sure the production process is hygienic and don't relying on fixing problems at the end, like the yank process)

-Matt

Just because you haven't had salmonella poisoning it doesn't mean other people don't get it. There are many cases of it in the UK every year. "

Oh for fucks sake Centaur, do you ever take even a cursory glance at anything before writing?

OK, I have spent literally 60 seconds on this. So if you disagree with the first stats I stumbled across then fine, do more detailed research. The point I am making here is that if washing our food in disinfectant was so great, then surely it would result in a marked decrease in risk of illness.

First stat from the USA, looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

"Every year, Salmonella is estimated[PDF – 1 page] to cause one million foodborne illnesses in the United States, with 19,000 hospitalizations and 380 deaths."

Second stat from the UK looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.food.gov.uk/news-updates/news/2014/6097/foodpoisoning

"Salmonella is the pathogen that causes the most hospital admissions – about 2,500 each year."

Note, both of those are official government websites. Yes, the years may differ, but see caveat above.

I can't be arsed to work out how many people each chicken in each country, so I'm just going to assume they all do. No, that is not right, but for a rough estimate it will suffice.

Population of UK: 65 Million

Population of USA: 323 Million

So that means that number of hospitalisations due to salmonella per million people population?

UK: 38

USA: 58

Now you can of course say there are other effects, maybe yanks have no idea how to cook chicken properly, or maybe us Brits are hard as nails and just go shit it out and blame the 10 pints of wife-beater and the curry from 'that dodgy foreign chap'. Then again, if the US chickens are being washed in chlorine before they leave then why are there ANY cases of salmonella in the US? Who knows. But you could also argue that with our free-at-point-of-use healthcare that more Brits would seek medical help than in the US.

And yes, you can get salmonella from other sources, and yes you can get them from eggs (which yanks wash off the protective membrane, hence have to keep them in the fridge as they are fucking idiots -- whole different argument).

The point being that if the US food standards were so good then you would expect the number of people hospitalised due to their food to be significantly less, not more than the UK.

-Matt

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Nothing quite like having such high animal welfare, slaughtering and meat preparation standards that the last thing you do before packaging your products you wash them in disinfectant. But according to some here and our government we have nothing to worry about from US meat products.

It is not as if Monsanto (the US agrochemical and feed manufacturer) sold cattle feed that included ground up sheep bones and other slaughterhouse detritus to our beef farmers causing New Variant CJD. "

According to some on here we have nothing to worry about? Have you actually taken on board what has been said on the thread? It was the European food standards agency who concluded that washing chicken in chlorinated water is perfectly safe to then be sold for human consumption. As for your point about Monsanto in the USA, similar has happened in the EU, like meat manufacturers in the EU packaging up horse meat then labelling it as beef to be sold in supermarkets.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Nothing quite like having such high animal welfare, slaughtering and meat preparation standards that the last thing you do before packaging your products you wash them in disinfectant. But according to some here and our government we have nothing to worry about from US meat products.

It is not as if Monsanto (the US agrochemical and feed manufacturer) sold cattle feed that included ground up sheep bones and other slaughterhouse detritus to our beef farmers causing New Variant CJD.

According to some on here we have nothing to worry about? Have you actually taken on board what has been said on the thread? It was the European food standards agency who concluded that washing chicken in chlorinated water is perfectly safe to then be sold for human consumption. As for your point about Monsanto in the USA, similar has happened in the EU, like meat manufacturers in the EU packaging up horse meat then labelling it as beef to be sold in supermarkets. "

The difference being that the practices you mention happening in the EU are ILLEGAL. Whereas a lot of the food standards practices in the US (hormone injections etc etc) are LEGAL.

-Matt

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"So why haven't I come down with salmonella here in the U.K. then? I mean, if it is needed as a safety precaution, yet we don't do it here, why aren't we all Ill then?

(Yes, I know the answer, because we make sure the production process is hygienic and don't relying on fixing problems at the end, like the yank process)

-Matt

Just because you haven't had salmonella poisoning it doesn't mean other people don't get it. There are many cases of it in the UK every year.

Oh for fucks sake Centaur, do you ever take even a cursory glance at anything before writing?

OK, I have spent literally 60 seconds on this. So if you disagree with the first stats I stumbled across then fine, do more detailed research. The point I am making here is that if washing our food in disinfectant was so great, then surely it would result in a marked decrease in risk of illness.

First stat from the USA, looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

"Every year, Salmonella is estimated[PDF – 1 page] to cause one million foodborne illnesses in the United States, with 19,000 hospitalizations and 380 deaths."

Second stat from the UK looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.food.gov.uk/news-updates/news/2014/6097/foodpoisoning

"Salmonella is the pathogen that causes the most hospital admissions – about 2,500 each year."

Note, both of those are official government websites. Yes, the years may differ, but see caveat above.

I can't be arsed to work out how many people each chicken in each country, so I'm just going to assume they all do. No, that is not right, but for a rough estimate it will suffice.

Population of UK: 65 Million

Population of USA: 323 Million

So that means that number of hospitalisations due to salmonella per million people population?

UK: 38

USA: 58

Now you can of course say there are other effects, maybe yanks have no idea how to cook chicken properly, or maybe us Brits are hard as nails and just go shit it out and blame the 10 pints of wife-beater and the curry from 'that dodgy foreign chap'. Then again, if the US chickens are being washed in chlorine before they leave then why are there ANY cases of salmonella in the US? Who knows. But you could also argue that with our free-at-point-of-use healthcare that more Brits would seek medical help than in the US.

And yes, you can get salmonella from other sources, and yes you can get them from eggs (which yanks wash off the protective membrane, hence have to keep them in the fridge as they are fucking idiots -- whole different argument).

The point being that if the US food standards were so good then you would expect the number of people hospitalised due to their food to be significantly less, not more than the UK.

-Matt"

So now you're admitting there are cases of salmonella poisoning in the UK each year and that the EU method of washing chicken in cold water is not fool proof, even though you originally said "why aren't we all Ill then?" Make your mind up.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"So why haven't I come down with salmonella here in the U.K. then? I mean, if it is needed as a safety precaution, yet we don't do it here, why aren't we all Ill then?

(Yes, I know the answer, because we make sure the production process is hygienic and don't relying on fixing problems at the end, like the yank process)

-Matt

Just because you haven't had salmonella poisoning it doesn't mean other people don't get it. There are many cases of it in the UK every year.

Oh for fucks sake Centaur, do you ever take even a cursory glance at anything before writing?

OK, I have spent literally 60 seconds on this. So if you disagree with the first stats I stumbled across then fine, do more detailed research. The point I am making here is that if washing our food in disinfectant was so great, then surely it would result in a marked decrease in risk of illness.

First stat from the USA, looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/index.html

"Every year, Salmonella is estimated[PDF – 1 page] to cause one million foodborne illnesses in the United States, with 19,000 hospitalizations and 380 deaths."

Second stat from the UK looking for salmonella cases:

https://www.food.gov.uk/news-updates/news/2014/6097/foodpoisoning

"Salmonella is the pathogen that causes the most hospital admissions – about 2,500 each year."

Note, both of those are official government websites. Yes, the years may differ, but see caveat above.

I can't be arsed to work out how many people each chicken in each country, so I'm just going to assume they all do. No, that is not right, but for a rough estimate it will suffice.

Population of UK: 65 Million

Population of USA: 323 Million

So that means that number of hospitalisations due to salmonella per million people population?

UK: 38

USA: 58

Now you can of course say there are other effects, maybe yanks have no idea how to cook chicken properly, or maybe us Brits are hard as nails and just go shit it out and blame the 10 pints of wife-beater and the curry from 'that dodgy foreign chap'. Then again, if the US chickens are being washed in chlorine before they leave then why are there ANY cases of salmonella in the US? Who knows. But you could also argue that with our free-at-point-of-use healthcare that more Brits would seek medical help than in the US.

And yes, you can get salmonella from other sources, and yes you can get them from eggs (which yanks wash off the protective membrane, hence have to keep them in the fridge as they are fucking idiots -- whole different argument).

The point being that if the US food standards were so good then you would expect the number of people hospitalised due to their food to be significantly less, not more than the UK.

-Matt

So now you're admitting there are cases of salmonella poisoning in the UK each year and that the EU method of washing chicken in cold water is not fool proof, even though you originally said "why aren't we all Ill then?" Make your mind up. "

But we aren't all ill. Only very few of us are. 38 in a million people per year. Less than in the US where they wash their chicken in disinfectant. I never claimed there were not cases of salmonella poisoning in the UK, just that if our method is so bad, why aren't we all ill. and if the US method was so much better, why do they have more illness due to salmonella than us.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Yet you are quite happy to drink chlorinated tap water, and swim in chlorinated swimming pools?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Yet you are quite happy to drink chlorinated tap water, and swim in chlorinated swimming pools? "

As swingers also no doubt happy to sit in chlorinated jacuzzi water at swingers clubs.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"As swingers also no doubt happy to sit in chlorinated jacuzzi water at swingers clubs. "

Yep, and I am happy to use swimming baths with chlorinated water...

Provided I can't smell the chlorine...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

"

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice "

If you extend that argument to its logical conclusion than why don't we just offer dog food for human consumption.

People can then just choose right?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice "

. Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice

If you extend that argument to its logical conclusion than why don't we just offer dog food for human consumption.

People can then just choose right?"

I can buy dog food and eat it if I like, what's your point?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice

If you extend that argument to its logical conclusion than why don't we just offer dog food for human consumption.

People can then just choose right?

I can buy dog food and eat it if I like, what's your point?"

i eat it all the time! I woof it down me

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice

If you extend that argument to its logical conclusion than why don't we just offer dog food for human consumption.

People can then just choose right?

I can buy dog food and eat it if I like, what's your point?

i eat it all the time! I woof it down me "

Mel Gibson ate some in one of the Mad max films didn't he? Maybe also ate some in one of his Lethal Weapon films too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice

If you extend that argument to its logical conclusion than why don't we just offer dog food for human consumption.

People can then just choose right?

I can buy dog food and eat it if I like, what's your point?

i eat it all the time! I woof it down me "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What sort of fucking moron wants his chicken dipped in chlorine to make it safe.Obviously only the wilfully ignorant .Next you'll be telling us American beef injected with hormones to add weight is good for you and a patriotic choice.

.Only 3 % of their cattle eats grass or has ever seen a field.Go on tell me its better than british beef or british chicken.It seems some want to sell out our farmers in a race to the bottom in our farming industry.Its Brexit at all costs as I've always known.

You dont have to eat the fuckin stuff do you

What we do a deal with the yanks and all of a sudden our farmers stop producing.

Its all about choice by the individual.

Personally I dont think I would eat it but hey thats my choice.

Has anybody posting on hete been in slaughter houses has anybody been in food processing factories

I have all over the world and no 2 are the same

Hygeine is not the same either

Who on here eats a doner kebab

I worked in kebab factory in Wembley installing a couple of coldrooms,not the cleanest of environments put me off for life.

Chlorine may not sound right to us but is the way we look at hygiene any better by good husbandry

Would the yanks look at that and say its not as good as their system of hygiene after all we would I assume be exporting our foodstuff over to the states

Its about choice "

You won't know you're eating US produced meat though! Food origin labelling - yep you guessed it - an EU regulation. And one that will be easy as a dirty meat pie to change.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Apparently Fox was challenged to eat chlorine washed chicken and has refused...

So where John Gummer was willing to use his children to back claims that beefburgers were safe in 1990 Fox is not willing to US chicken to back his claims that it is safe today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I now know..Thanks

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If know one buys the fucking chicken in the shops the shops won't sell it it's simple ffs

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"If know one buys the fucking chicken in the shops the shops won't sell it it's simple ffs "

If the labeling is changed to remove country of origin then you wont know your buying it.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"If know one buys the fucking chicken in the shops the shops won't sell it it's simple ffs "

No Goverment in this country would ever get away with removing country of origin.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"No Goverment in this country would ever get away with removing country of origin.

"

Funny that, it took an EU directive to force the UK government to require country of origin to be put on all foodstuffs and the government has been saying all along since the leave vote that they intend to remove all EU regulations that they see as a obstacle to free trade so we can become more like India and China (the two countries they always name when it comes to regulation).

Now considering the above exactly how long do you think it will be before we return to packaged in labels that obscured the county of origin of the contents to enable US produce to be sold in this county without the consumer knowing what they are buying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always look at origin of the food i buy there are a few countries i never buy any products from.Israel being one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If know one buys the fucking chicken in the shops the shops won't sell it it's simple ffs "

Foxy why are you happy with cheap inferior food being dumped on the uk market undercutting our farmers.But unhappy about cheap steel from china being dumped on the uk market .Which crippled our steel industry.What happened to all the patriotic brexiters saying buy british.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Bob I'm not happy about it I just don't think it will happen I can't see British shoppers buying it they r to smart like u a lot of ppl check labelling now and to be honest you should see the state of some of the animals that come here from Europe to b slaughtered in the UK.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"No Goverment in this country would ever get away with removing country of origin.

Funny that, it took an EU directive to force the UK government to require country of origin to be put on all foodstuffs and the government has been saying all along since the leave vote that they intend to remove all EU regulations that they see as a obstacle to free trade so we can become more like India and China (the two countries they always name when it comes to regulation).

Now considering the above exactly how long do you think it will be before we return to packaged in labels that obscured the county of origin of the contents to enable US produce to be sold in this county without the consumer knowing what they are buying? "

After many food scares, we have to have traceability in everything now. I can buy fruit and vegetables and it even tells me the name of the farmer and the county of origin.

Allegen advice, chemical composition, etc is also expected and it would be a brave and foolish Goverment to try and remove these things.

I believe that the Government have said that they are going to robustly maintain these standards.

What restaurants and take aways serve you is another matter of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone misses the point about chlorine-washed chicken. It is nothing to do with taste, or taint, or chemicals in your food - it is the lowering of standards in the abbatoir that chlorine-washing masks.

The UK (and its influence on the EU) ensure exceptionally high standards of hygiene are maintained throughout our food industry. We don't need chlorine-washing because the microbiological risk has already been minimised by good practice.

I would rather know that my food has been handled correctly and hygienically in the first place than move to an 'anything goes and we can clean it up at the end of the process' mentality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Food safety and regulations are rapidly being eroded under the trump administration. The USDA recently published data showing that 85% of food tested contained pesticide residues, hundreds of examples exceeding safe limits set by the EPA.

Trump is in the process of elimanting the EPA . The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) enforces rules around how food is produced to protect the environment and human health. Trump has labelled the EPA "a disaster" claiming he would abolish it.

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