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"So yet another key piece of Trump's legislative agenda is completely sunk. He doesn't seem to be achieving many of his stated policies does he? At this rate I'm not sure he is going to get any laws passed before he gets impeached. Great news though for the millions of Americans who would have been stripped of their healthcare though. " Last I heard - he was prepared to just let Obamacare to fail and then look to create a replacement. All because it bears the nickname of "Obama" and he is fixated on destroying Obama's legacy. | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens." Eh???? | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????" I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. " The thread is about the Affordable Healthcare Bill otherwise known as Obamacare. | |||
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"Saw a rather stark figure on what the US tax cuts really mean... A person earning $25,000 (£19,178.50)PA will get a $40 reduction in tax. A person earning $3,400,000.00 (£2,609,500.00) PA gets a $937,700.00 (£719,684.75) reduction in tax. While the Trumps, Kosh brothers and Walton family are set to share somewhere between $800,000,000 (£614,000,000) (low estimate) and $5,000,000,000 (£3,937,500,000)(high estimate). At least we all get to watch how a serial corporate fraudster managed to turn his daddies million dollar seed into a multibillion dollar empire by destroying peoples lives by means of corporate bankruptcy and fraud. But don't worry America your president is making you hate again... My worry is he has the same sort of thing planned for us and May will hand him and his chums the NHS after brexit because she will have no choice if she wants a trade deal with Donni the Deal Breaker." 
It's tragic that turkeys will vote for Christmas and Thanksgiving.
The Affordable Care Act was damaged by the Republicans pre-launch, as they insisted on so many amendments - but obviously still better than what Trump would replace it with.
Watch out UK - more of the elite's plans to smash the welfare state, state services etc are heading to you. You will pay more for less, so a few can get richer. | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. The thread is about the Affordable Healthcare Bill otherwise known as Obamacare." The OP said that Trump wasn't achieving many of his stated policies so surely that leaves the thread open for posters to comment in his other policies. On his other policies, as Shag said there has been less traffic over the Mexican border since he became President. His travel ban from the 7 countries on a list Obama compiled has also been put into place and upheld by the courts now. Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. The thread is about the Affordable Healthcare Bill otherwise known as Obamacare. The OP said that Trump wasn't achieving many of his stated policies so surely that leaves the thread open for posters to comment in his other policies. On his other policies, as Shag said there has been less traffic over the Mexican border since he became President. His travel ban from the 7 countries on a list Obama compiled has also been put into place and upheld by the courts now. Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. " from the Republicans.. compared to what Obama was dealing with Trump should have had several of his key policy promises either through both houses by now or pretty near so.. 6 months in American politics is a long time, more so when its entirely possibly that he may not make a full term.. his approval rating is the lowest of any President since 75.. but hey Centaur keep ignoring the facts and stick with Breitbart, its more comfortable there... | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. The thread is about the Affordable Healthcare Bill otherwise known as Obamacare. The OP said that Trump wasn't achieving many of his stated policies so surely that leaves the thread open for posters to comment in his other policies. On his other policies, as Shag said there has been less traffic over the Mexican border since he became President. His travel ban from the 7 countries on a list Obama compiled has also been put into place and upheld by the courts now. Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. from the Republicans.. compared to what Obama was dealing with Trump should have had several of his key policy promises either through both houses by now or pretty near so.. 6 months in American politics is a long time, more so when its entirely possibly that he may not make a full term.. his approval rating is the lowest of any President since 75.. but hey Centaur keep ignoring the facts and stick with Breitbart, its more comfortable there... " He has appointed more federal judges than any other POTUS in an equivalent period. | |||
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"At least he is trying, it is unpopular cos the state are hiding behind political correctness, it will favor the illegal aliens, although they have seen a great improvement on the border side of things of less calls for catching the aliens. Eh????I meant that as the wall is on hold, the security guards are doing a good job defending the borders, they have seen less aliens crossing since trump have put his foot down on the problem, it was on a program about it yesterday lol. The thread is about the Affordable Healthcare Bill otherwise known as Obamacare. The OP said that Trump wasn't achieving many of his stated policies so surely that leaves the thread open for posters to comment in his other policies. On his other policies, as Shag said there has been less traffic over the Mexican border since he became President. His travel ban from the 7 countries on a list Obama compiled has also been put into place and upheld by the courts now. Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. from the Republicans.. compared to what Obama was dealing with Trump should have had several of his key policy promises either through both houses by now or pretty near so.. 6 months in American politics is a long time, more so when its entirely possibly that he may not make a full term.. his approval rating is the lowest of any President since 75.. but hey Centaur keep ignoring the facts and stick with Breitbart, its more comfortable there... He has appointed more federal judges than any other POTUS in an equivalent period. " That is right, the policies will eventually go through, some of them will take longer time. | |||
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"How is his Wall Doing ? It's gone quiert on that front ? "Its going to transparent apparently. So you can see all the drug cartels throwing packages over.  He's still deciding on its final appearance. He'd like a solar wall but you cant see through that. | |||
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" That is right, the policies will eventually go through, some of them will take longer time." Yeah that healthcare bill will go through eventually. Sure Trump called the House version mean. And yes the Senate cant even get enough votes to start discussing the proposed bill despite Republicans having a majority. And sure even if they did get to a point that were able to discuss it they'd then have to get enough votes which looks even more unlikely. And even if they did pass something they'd have to reconcile it with the House version into something both houses agree to pass. And thats with the public hating both versions of the bill and Trump distracting from his own agenda by pushing the Russia investigation to the front all the time. Not to mention that his tax reform was based on gutting the spending on healthcare so now thats not happening they cant do that the way they wanted any more. And the debt ceiling is going to be hit soon so they need democrats to sign off on the wall which they will not do under any circumstances. And this time next year we'll be into the mid term election campaigns meaning little will get done and Trump could be facing even further reduced majorities or possibly one branch led by Democrats. Times running out for Donnie to get things done. 6 months in and no major legislation passed when the Republicans hold all branches of national government. #sad | |||
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"Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. " LoL Breakdown of 115th United States Congress. House of Representatives: Republicans 240 Democrats 194 Senate: Republicans 52 Democrats 46 Independants 2. Republicans control all 3 branches of government. So where is the opposition Centaur? Ah, I get it, from dissenters in his own party who like the idea of being reelected in the mid terms in 18 months time.  | |||
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"He has appointed more federal judges than any other POTUS in an equivalent period. " But to get them confirmed the Republicans have had to change the conformation voting rules from 60% for, ensuring at least some bipartisan support for judicial appointments to a simple majority vote so that they could push through the conformations. That I expect will come back to haunt the GOP in future years. | |||
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"Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. LoL Breakdown of 115th United States Congress. House of Representatives: Republicans 240 Democrats 194 Senate: Republicans 52 Democrats 46 Independants 2. Republicans control all 3 branches of government. So where is the opposition Centaur? Ah, I get it, from dissenters in his own party who like the idea of being reelected in the mid terms in 18 months time. "The opposition is coming from the Democrats and the establishment Republicans who had their noses seriously put out of joint when Trump wiped the floor with them in the primaries. Trump was not the establishment Republicans preferred choice, and they threw everything at him to try to defeat him. Trump really upset the established order of things in the USA on both sides of the house and plenty on both sides are still not happy about it and doing all they can to undermine him, disrupt his policy programme and get him out of the White House altogether. | |||
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"Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. LoL Breakdown of 115th United States Congress. House of Representatives: Republicans 240 Democrats 194 Senate: Republicans 52 Democrats 46 Independants 2. Republicans control all 3 branches of government. So where is the opposition Centaur? Ah, I get it, from dissenters in his own party who like the idea of being reelected in the mid terms in 18 months time.
The opposition is coming from the Democrats and the establishment Republicans who had their noses seriously put out of joint when Trump wiped the floor with them in the primaries. Trump was not the establishment Republicans preferred choice, and they threw everything at him to try to defeat him. Trump really upset the established order of things in the USA on both sides of the house and plenty on both sides are still not happy about it and doing all they can to undermine him, disrupt his policy programme and get him out of the White House altogether. "That's called democracy.. clearly a principle that some like your hero the misogynistic, treats people like shit, in bed with the Russian mafia, watersport loving, wig wearing bully have a problem getting their head around... | |||
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"Trump is slowly starting to get his programme of policies put into place in the face of unprecedented opposition. LoL Breakdown of 115th United States Congress. House of Representatives: Republicans 240 Democrats 194 Senate: Republicans 52 Democrats 46 Independants 2. Republicans control all 3 branches of government. So where is the opposition Centaur? Ah, I get it, from dissenters in his own party who like the idea of being reelected in the mid terms in 18 months time.
The opposition is coming from the Democrats and the establishment Republicans who had their noses seriously put out of joint when Trump wiped the floor with them in the primaries. Trump was not the establishment Republicans preferred choice, and they threw everything at him to try to defeat him. Trump really upset the established order of things in the USA on both sides of the house and plenty on both sides are still not happy about it and doing all they can to undermine him, disrupt his policy programme and get him out of the White House altogether. "Not even close to accurate. Democrats have already said theyd work with Trump on infrastructure and have worked to confirm most of his cabinet. They're obviously not going to work with any Republicans in repealing Obamacare, cutting social services, tax breaks for the wealthy or the travel ban. Republicans of all caucuses want to work with Trump because they need to. The problem is the tea party and mainstream Republicans are completely at odds. Susan Collins (R) from Maine is against cutting healthcare levels and quality for her constituents and even voted against a symbolic repeal Obamacare vote. Now that Republicans have to actually write actual law they have to deal with the fact that Obamacare has been actually very successful. Over 22 million more people have health insurance, personal bankruptcies have been halved and people are getting better healthcare. Because tea party politicians dont care about the healthcare of their constituents and mainstream republicans do they cant make a deal that satisfies both. And Trump cant make a deal and doesnt lead on legislation because he doesnt know how. | |||
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"And down goes obamacare.... oh ..... wait! Lol 7 years to come up with something and the republicans still balls it up! And trump is out there blaming the democrats! I mean... it is not like they don't control all parts of the government.... hang on McCain's ultimate revenge for all of the times trump has taken potshots at him " 3 of his own side went against it as well. | |||
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" 3 of his own side went against it as well. " Collins was a no from the very start (Any R capable of winning Maine is going to be a very liberal conservative at best!) Merkowski was going to be a no because Alaska was one of the very few red states to take the expanded Medicare money to help states pay for their poorest health coverage... and repeal without replace would have crippled her state McCain is the shocker.... and in the end he may have taken the bullet that saved the Republican Party If it had gone thru... it basically would have been an 18 month suicide note and they would have been crushed in the midterm | |||
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"McCain is the shocker.... and in the end he may have taken the bullet that saved the Republican Party If it had gone thru... it basically would have been an 18 month suicide note and they would have been crushed in the midterm " And this is the crux of the issue. I am torn on health care, if I'm honest. Part of me finds it really sad that America's attempt at some type of health care reform may well come to an abrupt end. It's also a bit sad that so many people will lose the health care they need. Then there's the other part of me. The part that wants the republicans to sink their own ship. The part of me that knows when I go back to the US I'll always have a job that provides me with good health insurance - which leads me to the conclusion, knowing that so many of the people who will lose health care under the republican plans in fact voted for those very republicans, that perhaps people should have to live with what they voted for. Part of me wants the republicans to succeed in destroying the ACA and forcing those who voted for it to live with the consequences of their actions. Then, in the next big election, we can see where the chips fall. | |||
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"McCain is the shocker.... and in the end he may have taken the bullet that saved the Republican Party If it had gone thru... it basically would have been an 18 month suicide note and they would have been crushed in the midterm And this is the crux of the issue. I am torn on health care, if I'm honest. Part of me finds it really sad that America's attempt at some type of health care reform may well come to an abrupt end. It's also a bit sad that so many people will lose the health care they need. Then there's the other part of me. The part that wants the republicans to sink their own ship. The part of me that knows when I go back to the US I'll always have a job that provides me with good health insurance - which leads me to the conclusion, knowing that so many of the people who will lose health care under the republican plans in fact voted for those very republicans, that perhaps people should have to live with what they voted for. Part of me wants the republicans to succeed in destroying the ACA and forcing those who voted for it to live with the consequences of their actions. Then, in the next big election, we can see where the chips fall. " Get where your coming from.. Trump seems less than interested in the effects of his actions and their impact on people both users of this and the Republican party in the short to medium term, and more on having some sort of bizarre 'legacy' in being able to say i trashed Obamacare therefore i am a success.. he will step down i think after one term if it gets to that point in his first term.. thus far it seems that he is only interested in being able to feed his fragile ego.. who said Politics was dull and predictable.. | |||
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" McCain is the shocker.... and in the end he may have taken the bullet that saved the Republican Party" You're surprised, why? Think about it. He's just been diagnosed with brain cancer and then on donnies orders force o attend congress to vote for a debate and then vote in the debate. So he votes for the debate and then votes the issue down really sticking it to little donnie. What else would a Vietnam vet who spent years in the Hanoi Hilton do to draught dodger donnie? | |||
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" McCain is the shocker.... and in the end he may have taken the bullet that saved the Republican Party You're surprised, why? Think about it. He's just been diagnosed with brain cancer and then on donnies orders force o attend congress to vote for a debate and then vote in the debate. So he votes for the debate and then votes the issue down really sticking it to little donnie. What else would a Vietnam vet who spent years in the Hanoi Hilton do to draught dodger donnie?" Dont forget that Donald prefers war heroes who don't get captured  | |||
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