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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU... "
can't say that mate ...Brexiters will say it's fear mongering

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU... can't say that mate ...Brexiters will say it's fear mongering "

I deal in facts ....they dont that the difference ha

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU... "

Aviation is an absolute Pandora's box of EU/EASA regulation that has effectively made much of the work of the CAA redundant. Pilot and aircrew licensing, revalidation, engineering and maintenance are all inexorably tied to EASA. And let's not even mention the EU/USA open skies agreement.

Of course, the UK could just accept primacynof EU law, pay a fee and stay in EASA?....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Know someone in the industry and he was looking into trying to get dual nationality to safeguard his job when it all goes tits up.

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well "

The owner of Ryanair threw his toys out of his pram a long time ago about Brexit, it's old news.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?"

Wait and see how it will along with the other Airlines..... theres a reason there leaving...maybe you need to accept why

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well

The owner of Ryanair threw his toys out of his pram a long time ago about Brexit, it's old news. "

Funny i've only just seen this on the news today.....its your other job mystic megs assistant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

Wait and see how it will along with the other Airlines..... theres a reason there leaving...maybe you need to accept why "

So you don't know then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well "

Dublin isn't in the UK by the way

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well

The owner of Ryanair threw his toys out of his pram a long time ago about Brexit, it's old news.

Funny i've only just seen this on the news today.....its your other job mystic megs assistant "

It's on the news today about Easyjet. Ryanair is old news.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well

Dublin isn't in the UK by the way"

Im taking it you know how many bases they have in the UK

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

Wait and see how it will along with the other Airlines..... theres a reason there leaving...maybe you need to accept why "

If they leave the UK someone else will fill the space they leave behind. That is the nature of business. It remains to be seen if they actually do leave or if its just posturing. All those spoilt brat celebs in America who said they would leave the USA if Trump won are still there aren't they.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

Wait and see how it will along with the other Airlines..... theres a reason there leaving...maybe you need to accept why

If they leave the UK someone else will fill the space they leave behind. That is the nature of business. It remains to be seen if they actually do leave or if its just posturing. All those spoilt brat celebs in America who said they would leave the USA if Trump won are still there aren't they. "

If you say so....try giving some facts instead of plucking stuff out of thin air

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?"

EasyJet has already taken an £82mn hit to its profits as a result of the devaluation of the pound. Its now going to take a £10mn cost to set up this new subsidiary. Thats a cost to UK business, the UK tax take and puts jobs and services at risk.

Going forward the UKs tax take will be down and Austrias will be up as the profits of this subsidiary will be taxed in the EU.

Also in their announcement they've said that there will be a re-organisation in the next 3 years. How many companies restructure to add jobs instead of losing them? And any job losses are clearly not going to be the new hires needed in Austria. More likely that they'll be in Britain as the work done there on its intra EU flights will now be done in Austria.

Or maybe you think that a company thats unexpectedly lost £92 million because of Brexit and is sending work overseas isnt going to consider dropping staff?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

EasyJet has already taken an £82mn hit to its profits as a result of the devaluation of the pound. Its now going to take a £10mn cost to set up this new subsidiary. Thats a cost to UK business, the UK tax take and puts jobs and services at risk.

Going forward the UKs tax take will be down and Austrias will be up as the profits of this subsidiary will be taxed in the EU.

Also in their announcement they've said that there will be a re-organisation in the next 3 years. How many companies restructure to add jobs instead of losing them? And any job losses are clearly not going to be the new hires needed in Austria. More likely that they'll be in Britain as the work done there on its intra EU flights will now be done in Austria.

Or maybe you think that a company thats unexpectedly lost £92 million because of Brexit and is sending work overseas isnt going to consider dropping staff? "

You do talk some shite. An aviation expert being interviewed just on tv said it will make no difference. And as Centaur said as one door closes another one opens

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


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You do talk some shite. An aviation expert being interviewed just on tv said it will make no difference. And as Centaur said as one door closes another one opens"

Nope youre just in denial as usual.

Have they lost £92mn as a direct result of Brexit?

Yes

Will this affect their tax bill?

Yes

Will their future profits on intra EU flights go to Austria instead of Britain?

Yes

Did they say in their announcement that a reorganisation was coming?

Yes

And why would a new airline suddenly spring up in the UK as Centaur said? Easyjet isnt losing any customers. And theres no guarantee that UK airlines will be able to fly to any EU country unless the Tories ditch their no deal is better than a good deal b.s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, they will set up a new hq in austria to protect its european business after britain leaves the eu, eu is the place to be in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, they will set up a new hq in austria to protect its european business after britain leaves the eu, eu is the place to be in "

Only the sadly deluded think otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

EasyJet has already taken an £82mn hit to its profits as a result of the devaluation of the pound. Its now going to take a £10mn cost to set up this new subsidiary. Thats a cost to UK business, the UK tax take and puts jobs and services at risk.

Going forward the UKs tax take will be down and Austrias will be up as the profits of this subsidiary will be taxed in the EU.

Also in their announcement they've said that there will be a re-organisation in the next 3 years. How many companies restructure to add jobs instead of losing them? And any job losses are clearly not going to be the new hires needed in Austria. More likely that they'll be in Britain as the work done there on its intra EU flights will now be done in Austria.

Or maybe you think that a company thats unexpectedly lost £92 million because of Brexit and is sending work overseas isnt going to consider dropping staff?

You do talk some shite. An aviation expert being interviewed just on tv said it will make no difference. And as Centaur said as one door closes another one opens"

Aha now we know the deal Trumps thinking of......Trump airlines

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, they will set up a new hq in austria to protect its european business after britain leaves the eu, eu is the place to be in

Only the sadly deluded think otherwise."
Yes, the brexiters.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

There is a problem for all airlines both here and in Europe but no doubt it will be sorted out as part of the negotiations.

As for EasyJet because they do inter Euro flying they will need a base within Europe,however that will not effect there operations here exept for helping to keep prices down,they are being prudent and looking after there business which helps the UK

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There is a problem for all airlines both here and in Europe but no doubt it will be sorted out as part of the negotiations.

As for EasyJet because they do inter Euro flying they will need a base within Europe,however that will not effect there operations here exept for helping to keep prices down,they are being prudent and looking after there business which helps the UK"

And your comments are based on what facts ?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"There is a problem for all airlines both here and in Europe but no doubt it will be sorted out as part of the negotiations.

As for EasyJet because they do inter Euro flying they will need a base within Europe,however that will not effect there operations here exept for helping to keep prices down,they are being prudent and looking after there business which helps the UK

And your comments are based on what facts ? "
There is not a problem flying from the UK to Europe and visa versa thet is a simple agreement.However within the EU to say fly from here to Alicante then take the plane on to Tenerife say then back to Uk requires a special EU agreement that only allows EU companies to do it.

So Ryanair do this and makes for better economy as do Easyjet.Not all British airlines do this so they carry less passengers.I hope I have explained it.I saw something about this the other day and do not claim to be an expert but these are the facts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There is a problem for all airlines both here and in Europe but no doubt it will be sorted out as part of the negotiations.

As for EasyJet because they do inter Euro flying they will need a base within Europe,however that will not effect there operations here exept for helping to keep prices down,they are being prudent and looking after there business which helps the UK

And your comments are based on what facts ? There is not a problem flying from the UK to Europe and visa versa thet is a simple agreement.However within the EU to say fly from here to Alicante then take the plane on to Tenerife say then back to Uk requires a special EU agreement that only allows EU companies to do it.

So Ryanair do this and makes for better economy as do Easyjet.Not all British airlines do this so they carry less passengers.I hope I have explained it.I saw something about this the other day and do not claim to be an expert but these are the facts."

Why would they need a base here then under those circumstances ?

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"There is a problem for all airlines both here and in Europe but no doubt it will be sorted out as part of the negotiations.

As for EasyJet because they do inter Euro flying they will need a base within Europe,however that will not effect there operations here exept for helping to keep prices down,they are being prudent and looking after there business which helps the UK"

How does it keep prices down for EasyJet to have lost £82mn because of the pounds devaluation and now having to spend another £10mn on this new Austrian subsidiary?

You do realise that when a companies costs go up then their prices go up.

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By *utandbigMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"So are Ryanair they will leave the uk as well

The owner of Ryanair threw his toys out of his pram a long time ago about Brexit, it's old news. "

Yes it may old news as it was published ages ago

But it's new news now as Michael Ryan has just published

Mind you I don't expect you to believe it because of you no what your never wrong

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

The aviation industry is going to be a big, big Brexit problem and I do know a little about it just from the private flying that I did until just recently. It is not just about Airlines relocating - which is bad enough, but it is the entire airline and aircraft infrastructure that supports all aircraft that fly into and out of the UK.

Commercial aviation in the U.K. is now wholly administered by EASA and EASA is an integral part of the European Union and is subject to European Law. EASA has the open skies agreement and to be frank the U.K. Civil Aviation Authority is barely fit for purpose now as it acts as an EASA administrator for commercial airlines and has even delegated the lighter side of private aviation to their respective sports bodies.

Brexit with no deal puts everything to with aviation that is UK based into a legal limbo. Despite what simple solution Brexiters might think, there is nothing simple about untangling UK aviation from EASA because the insurance implications will prevent any type of activity that is not correctly licensed and a UK facility or person that is out of the EU will not be able to lawfully function under EASA rules. EASA took Years to put together and the CAA is STILL hoping that either Brexit will not happen or that a transition deal will be struck that accepts primacy of EU law for the sake of preventing absolute chaos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"EasyJet has already taken an £82mn hit to its profits as a result of the devaluation of the pound."

EasyJet recorded a loss of £212m in the six months to March.

EasyJet's chief executive, Carolyn McCall, said that £82m of the loss was down to the weakness of sterling. The impact of the move of Easter into the second half of the year was circa £45m.

She said it was normal for the company to make a loss in the first half of its financial year.

She went on to say 'Nineteen out of 21 years Easyjet has lost money in the winter and actually airlines do lose money in the winter.'

Put another way, the headline cost per seat increased by 4.9% to £54.45 (a decrease of 4.1% at constant currency) driven by the weakness of sterling.

Carolyn McCall didn't seem too bothered by it!

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By *ougar_n_TILFCouple
over a year ago

Burton on Trent

Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Brexit with no deal puts everything to with aviation that is UK based into a legal limbo."

EasyJet have said that it was on track to gain its European Air Operator Certificate by the summer. It needs this to make sure that it can still operate between European Union member countries after the UK leaves the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression. "

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"EasyJet has already taken an £82mn hit to its profits as a result of the devaluation of the pound.

EasyJet recorded a loss of £212m in the six months to March.

EasyJet's chief executive, Carolyn McCall, said that £82m of the loss was down to the weakness of sterling. The impact of the move of Easter into the second half of the year was circa £45m.

She said it was normal for the company to make a loss in the first half of its financial year.

She went on to say 'Nineteen out of 21 years Easyjet has lost money in the winter and actually airlines do lose money in the winter.'

Put another way, the headline cost per seat increased by 4.9% to £54.45 (a decrease of 4.1% at constant currency) driven by the weakness of sterling.

Carolyn McCall didn't seem too bothered by it!"

McCall is the CEO its part of her job to put a positive spin on news to improve share prices.

For the same period last year EasyJet lost £21mn. That means they're losses have increased 10 times or almost £200mn.

Do you really think a CEO wasnt bothered by that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression. "

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this"

I suggest you just watch the report on Sky News they just run about...theres a very clear possibility that there will be no flights to most of the EU if a deal is not thrashed out....which is looking remotely unlikely the way the Con/Dup government are fucking about...oh and its not only flights to Europe affected...yet again a brextiter shrugs his shoulders and buries his head in the sand...when are these people going to listen to facts and stop believing all things are rosy in the garden

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this

I suggest you just watch the report on Sky News they just run about...theres a very clear possibility that there will be no flights to most of the EU if a deal is not thrashed out....which is looking remotely unlikely the way the Con/Dup government are fucking about...oh and its not only flights to Europe affected...yet again a brextiter shrugs his shoulders and buries his head in the sand...when are these people going to listen to facts and stop believing all things are rosy in the garden "

Kind of difficult to shrug your shoulders when your head id buried in sand but i know what you mean.

they either suffer form a blinkered mentality or still believe we're some kind of world power and every other country is going to fall at our feet and beg us to do business with them.

I really don't know at what stage they're going to realise what a fuck up they've made.

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By *ougar_n_TILFCouple
over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this"

Yes you're probably right, it will be resolved, but not before more hob losses and uncertainty. But it shouldn't have to have been resolved. Everything was working perfectly well before you all fucked it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this

I suggest you just watch the report on Sky News they just run about...theres a very clear possibility that there will be no flights to most of the EU if a deal is not thrashed out....which is looking remotely unlikely the way the Con/Dup government are fucking about...oh and its not only flights to Europe affected...yet again a brextiter shrugs his shoulders and buries his head in the sand...when are these people going to listen to facts and stop believing all things are rosy in the garden "

The problem with 24 hour news channels is that they have an hours worth of news and 23 more to fill with bollocks. A possibility? When did a possibility become a fact? And no flights to most of the EU? What does that even mean? Do you actually digest and question anything?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this

I suggest you just watch the report on Sky News they just run about...theres a very clear possibility that there will be no flights to most of the EU if a deal is not thrashed out....which is looking remotely unlikely the way the Con/Dup government are fucking about...oh and its not only flights to Europe affected...yet again a brextiter shrugs his shoulders and buries his head in the sand...when are these people going to listen to facts and stop believing all things are rosy in the garden

The problem with 24 hour news channels is that they have an hours worth of news and 23 more to fill with bollocks. A possibility? When did a possibility become a fact? And no flights to most of the EU? What does that even mean? Do you actually digest and question anything?"

It became fact when the CEO said so...i tried to point you to the interview you choose to ignore it and run with you misguided views and agendas

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


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Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this"

I dont think the deciding factor of whether the EU continues its current high growth or goes into a depression hinges on British tourism

The only way this is resolved is if theres a deal in place with the EU. So are you finally conceding that the UK must have a deal to survive? Or do you think the UK will be better off with no flights to the EU at all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?"

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression. "
It is happening and instead of moaning why not look for solutions,with your attitude we would all be German now.Whatever happens will happen and you work with it instead of moaning like a spoilt little brat

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories. "
Nice to here some common sense from a remainer there is hope yet

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


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Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this

I dont think the deciding factor of whether the EU continues its current high growth or goes into a depression hinges on British tourism

The only way this is resolved is if theres a deal in place with the EU. So are you finally conceding that the UK must have a deal to survive? Or do you think the UK will be better off with no flights to the EU at all?"
Yes we will eventually have a deal that has to be but it will take many years sadly because of the idiots in the tory and labour parties and the traitors in the other parties,

The whole thing should be done by professional negotiators with no polititions allowed to take part the, deal they come up with both sides must exept that is common sense but there is none.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan
over a year ago

south dublin


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression. It is happening and instead of moaning why not look for solutions,with your attitude we would all be German now.Whatever happens will happen and you work with it instead of moaning like a spoilt little brat"

The clear way forward is to give democracy a voice. Its been the rallying call of the Brexiter all year after all.

The EU/UK deal will have to be done by October 2018 to have enough time to ratify and implement it. At that stage the people of Britain should be given a chance to have their say. A simple choice: leave with the deal on the table, leave without a deal or remain in the EU.

If the people back Brexit at that stage then people will have made an informed choice (no NHS bus this time) and if they remain that will also be an informed choice (no project fear because the facts will be laid out in the deal).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories. "

Well ive no idea how moving a plaque from Edinburgh has an impact on flights between the EU and the UK tbh...maybe you would care to explain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories.

Well ive no idea how moving a plaque from Edinburgh has an impact on flights between the EU and the UK tbh...maybe you would care to explain "

Easy Jet have to have an EU operating centre to conform with EU regs. The same way that RBS had to have and was threatening to 'move' to London during the Indyref. Easy jet will still be in the UK, service won't change. That's not in their interests. Same as RBS would still be 'mainly' in Scotland.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


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You do talk some shite. An aviation expert being interviewed just on tv said it will make no difference. And as Centaur said as one door closes another one opens

Nope youre just in denial as usual.

Have they lost £92mn as a direct result of Brexit?

Yes

Will this affect their tax bill?

Yes

Will their future profits on intra EU flights go to Austria instead of Britain?

Yes

Did they say in their announcement that a reorganisation was coming?

Yes

And why would a new airline suddenly spring up in the UK as Centaur said? Easyjet isnt losing any customers. And theres no guarantee that UK airlines will be able to fly to any EU country unless the Tories ditch their no deal is better than a good deal b.s."

Exactly. This is one company, just one, how many other companies are there in the UK that are doing similar things. The CBI represents businesses with over 7 million UK employees, and 40% of those say they have reduced or stopped expansion as a direct result of Brexit.

Anyone who truly believes that brexit will not have a negative economic impact on every household in this country is ignorant of reality.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

Wait and see how it will along with the other Airlines..... theres a reason there leaving...maybe you need to accept why

So you don't know then"

if you are serious at wanting to know why..... then i can give you an answer....

it is to do with the EU/US open skies agreement...

which mean that US and EU airlines that in effect fly from anywhere to anywhere with no penalty as if you were an host operator....

so it means that any EU operator can provide a sevice from any destination in the eu to any desination in the eu... and then onto the US

so if lets say for example.... BA "could" use a plane from athens to london to new york... use the same aircraft, sell tickets for that plane from athens to new york, from london to new york and from athens to london.... whereas in the past you would not be able to sell tickets from london to new york or athens to london because your are only stopping there to refuel

think of it as "freedom of movement" for airlines....

the problem then because when you the UK leaves... it is no longer part of this, which means a few things...

a) because in effect UK airspace is surrounded by everyone in this agreement it will mean that every flight in/out of the uk will have an additional surcharge on it for using that airspace.....

that will lead to less options for flights, and mean an increase on flight prices....

b) it also means those countries will get priority over using that airspace....

c) it will mean where for example where planes are stored here(hangered) in case of mishaps, it would not longer be so economically viable to do so if you have to move planes and they will be subject to the surcharges and conditions in both a) and b)

that will lead to less planes here with also means less people needed for example maintenace, mechanics, ect as those aircraft will be stored elsewhere

thats is why ryanair flagged it up a long time ago... that is the reason why easyjet flag it up...

if you are a low cost airline and you are trying to keep overheads down to a minimum, costs will just end up being passed down the chain....

it would just affect them, it will effect all airlines, but it may make some UK routes a lot less viable to run.........

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories.

Well ive no idea how moving a plaque from Edinburgh has an impact on flights between the EU and the UK tbh...maybe you would care to explain

Easy Jet have to have an EU operating centre to conform with EU regs. The same way that RBS had to have and was threatening to 'move' to London during the Indyref. Easy jet will still be in the UK, service won't change. That's not in their interests. Same as RBS would still be 'mainly' in Scotland. "

But there moving...not just threatened it and it will change...please have a look at what the CEO of Easyjet is saying....the statement that nothing will change is pie in the sky....unless May and co make a deal quick!!! which isnt going to happen...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all this bollocks will affect people in the UK how exactly?

It won't. The same way as the banks moving a plaque on the wall from Edinburgh to London wouldn't have affected Scotland. Gets the headlines though. Im pro Eu incidentally. Just hate bullshit scare stories.

Well ive no idea how moving a plaque from Edinburgh has an impact on flights between the EU and the UK tbh...maybe you would care to explain

Easy Jet have to have an EU operating centre to conform with EU regs. The same way that RBS had to have and was threatening to 'move' to London during the Indyref. Easy jet will still be in the UK, service won't change. That's not in their interests. Same as RBS would still be 'mainly' in Scotland.

But there moving...not just threatened it and it will change...please have a look at what the CEO of Easyjet is saying....the statement that nothing will change is pie in the sky....unless May and co make a deal quick!!! which isnt going to happen... "

Not moving, setting up another easyjet. There's already two, Switzerland and UK. If the main operations will still be run from Luton. It's an arse covering exercise. In my view. As was RBS.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Not moving, setting up another easyjet. There's already two, Switzerland and UK. If the main operations will still be run from Luton. It's an arse covering exercise. In my view. As was RBS. "

that shows a lack of understanding as to why they are making this step...

it is to do with costs... and as to where airplanes and in effect crews are going to be based...

lets say a plane has a breakdown in paris.... you need to get one out to replace it... 1 based in luton, 1 based in madrid....

at the moment.... it would cost you the same and you would have the same ease getting a plane from either destination out to replace it....

in the future, the madrid option would end up being cheaper because they are still flying within open skies.... and they would operate with the same priority of airspace so it would get there quicker....

the luton option would then involve having to pay a price once it left uk airspace, and may not even be able leave uk airspace till it has an available path because EU operated flights would still have priority

so it would make more sense to base planes elsewhere...

you would cut back what you needed to house in the uk to a minimum.... they are not talking about getting rid of everything because you would still need to in effect cover uk incidences... but since the EU in a bigger part of their operations, you do stand a big chance of loosing the stuff that deals with EU operations to the EU where that is based in the UK at the moment...

that is why it is huge for hubs like Luton, and Stanstead

and as i said in my reply to CandM.... that even fails to recognise that EVERY flight in/out of UK airspace has to go thru openskies area... so there may be charges added onto every single flight in/out... and you know those prices are going to be passed on....

it may make some UK routes a lot less viable if people are talking about profitbale routes...

it may not be a case of them pulling out of routes altogether, but may mean they run those flights less often, or may mean less competition on those routes....

for example... london to paris/brussels use to be profitable for airline.... before eurostar, now eurostar takes about 50% of that traffic now....

airlines now don't even bother paris and brussels anymore.... because it was as quick and cheap to send them by high speed train (american operators actaully give people train tickets if they need to make connections between those airports now)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And you don't think for one minute, if as you say the costs and impact is going to be so great, that the UK gov won't step in to mitigate?

I get what you're saying, just don't think it'll work out like that in the end. Too much is invested here for them to pack up and go else where. That in itself is not/ can't be viable.

It no lack of understanding, just a difference of opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And you don't think for one minute, if as you say the costs and impact is going to be so great, that the UK gov won't step in to mitigate?

I get what you're saying, just don't think it'll work out like that in the end. Too much is invested here for them to pack up and go else where. That in itself is not/ can't be viable.

It no lack of understanding, just a difference of opinion.

"

Well there not stepping in at the minute are they really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression. "

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"And you don't think for one minute, if as you say the costs and impact is going to be so great, that the UK gov won't step in to mitigate?

"

unless you are going to subsides the airline industry like you are going to in affect come to some sort of "memorandum of understand" like you did with nissan.... you will have every single industry and organisation asking for some sort of handout....

will someone get done "eventually".... yep....

will something get sorted out so that its is seemless.... nope!!!!

and if they leave, there will be no incentive to bring it back after, because you have then invested in those new bases...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

It is happening and instead of moaning why not look for solutions,with your attitude we would all be German now.Whatever happens will happen and you work with it instead of moaning like a spoilt little brat"

We are looking for solutions but, while those who brought this whole mess about are unwilling to even contemplate there might be even the slightest problem, it seems quite unlikely that any solution will be found. So why don't you, rather than behaving like a spoilt brat, insisting on getting exactly what they asked for regardless of the consequences for yourself or anyone else, start to accept that there may be a few problems and help with trying to find some solutions to them?

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"Love when Brexiters think that a valid argument is "pah, let them go, there are others".

Ryanair, Europes biggest carrier has said that it may consider not taking bookings from the UK for 2019 if there is no deal reached on aviation before end of 2018. Easyjet, the second biggest carrier moving HQ to Austria with the resultant loss of jobs here.

At what point will brexiters realise that it is a total fucking mess and disaster for this country?

That's right, after the next great depression.

Which will be in many parts of Europe without the UK tourist trade. And Ryanair not take bookings from its biggest customer? Get real. This will be resolved quickly and if it wasn't for remainers looking for something negative to oppose Brexit with in the media then practically no one would know or be concerned about this"

Of course it will be resolved quickly.....if the fuckwits in charge dot flounce out of the negotiations chanting no deal is better than a bad deal. The complete lack of understanding of the implications of not getting a deal on this in place sharpish is frightening

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Manchester and East Midlands airports both recently announced expansion plans.

Gatwick still badly needs a second runway, and the Heathrow expansion question still has to be thrashed out. The aviation industry is buoyant but we must ensure that it remains so.

Incidentally, Ryanair are no friends of the EU. They ceased operations to Belgium, over a spat with the EU, about Charleroi airport and offering subsidies. Easy Jet also modified their operations to Belguim as well, but my memory isn't as good after lots of beer yesterday!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU... can't say that mate ...Brexiters will say it's fear mongering

I deal in facts ....they dont that the difference ha"

Yes they have purchased a tin hut and applied for an air operator certificate in an EU member country

whats the big deal

just another "logan"

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By *ougar_n_TILFCouple
over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"It is happening and instead of moaning why not look for solutions,with your attitude we would all be German now.Whatever happens will happen and you work with it instead of moaning like a spoilt little brat"

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the chief brexit negotiator. Straight out of the Boris Johnson school of charm and diplomacy.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Manchester and East Midlands airports both recently announced expansion plans.

Gatwick still badly needs a second runway, and the Heathrow expansion question still has to be thrashed out. The aviation industry is buoyant but we must ensure that it remains so.

Incidentally, Ryanair are no friends of the EU. They ceased operations to Belgium, over a spat with the EU, about Charleroi airport and offering subsidies. Easy Jet also modified their operations to Belguim as well, but my memory isn't as good after lots of beer yesterday!"

You just don't get it do you.

Aviation activity will increase in the U.K., with or without Brexit.

The question is where do we as UK taxpayers want aircraft, flight crew and maintenance depots locating? If we are happy to lose much of our aviation infrastructure to Europe then this is all no big deal. Just more casualties in the battle for "independence" possibly? More like a completely pointless, avoidable and unnecessary clusterfuck more like.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I see Easy Jet has applied for a operators license in Austria in preparation of leaving the EU... can't say that mate ...Brexiters will say it's fear mongering

I deal in facts ....they dont that the difference ha

Yes they have purchased a tin hut and applied for an air operator certificate in an EU member country

whats the big deal

just another "logan""

You have evidently grasped the scope of the underlying issues and come up with a workable solution. Good job

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"And you don't think for one minute, if as you say the costs and impact is going to be so great, that the UK gov won't step in to mitigate?

I get what you're saying, just don't think it'll work out like that in the end. Too much is invested here for them to pack up and go else where. That in itself is not/ can't be viable.

It no lack of understanding, just a difference of opinion.

"

It is a lack of understanding. A complete and total lack of undertstanding.

Where do you think the government will get the money to 'step in and mitigate' these costs?

Yes, ultimately, the tax payer. Well done.

-Matt

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Manchester and East Midlands airports both recently announced expansion plans.

Gatwick still badly needs a second runway, and the Heathrow expansion question still has to be thrashed out. The aviation industry is buoyant but we must ensure that it remains so.

Incidentally, Ryanair are no friends of the EU. They ceased operations to Belgium, over a spat with the EU, about Charleroi airport and offering subsidies. Easy Jet also modified their operations to Belguim as well, but my memory isn't as good after lots of beer yesterday!

You just don't get it do you.

Aviation activity will increase in the U.K., with or without Brexit.

The question is where do we as UK taxpayers want aircraft, flight crew and maintenance depots locating? If we are happy to lose much of our aviation infrastructure to Europe then this is all no big deal. Just more casualties in the battle for "independence" possibly? More like a completely pointless, avoidable and unnecessary clusterfuck more like."

I'll take what _oo hot said... and take it one further....

expansion at gatwick, at heathrow and at manchester is not actually about "short haul" EU flights.... its about more landing spots for Long haul traffic....

american airline operators have wanted more landing spots for "london" for years.... and were promised some more under "open skies"

this is also about long haul operations going the other way, to the middle east, china, india for example.... where with the advent of greener long distance aircraft those route become more profitable....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And you don't think for one minute, if as you say the costs and impact is going to be so great, that the UK gov won't step in to mitigate?

I get what you're saying, just don't think it'll work out like that in the end. Too much is invested here for them to pack up and go else where. That in itself is not/ can't be viable.

It no lack of understanding, just a difference of opinion.

It is a lack of understanding. A complete and total lack of undertstanding.

Where do you think the government will get the money to 'step in and mitigate' these costs?

Yes, ultimately, the tax payer. Well done.

-Matt"

No, it isn't. You answered your own question.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Manchester and East Midlands airports both recently announced expansion plans.

Gatwick still badly needs a second runway, and the Heathrow expansion question still has to be thrashed out. The aviation industry is buoyant but we must ensure that it remains so.

Incidentally, Ryanair are no friends of the EU. They ceased operations to Belgium, over a spat with the EU, about Charleroi airport and offering subsidies. Easy Jet also modified their operations to Belguim as well, but my memory isn't as good after lots of beer yesterday!

You just don't get it do you.

Aviation activity will increase in the U.K., with or without Brexit.

The question is where do we as UK taxpayers want aircraft, flight crew and maintenance depots locating? If we are happy to lose much of our aviation infrastructure to Europe then this is all no big deal. Just more casualties in the battle for "independence" possibly? More like a completely pointless, avoidable and unnecessary clusterfuck more like.

I'll take what _oo hot said... and take it one further....

expansion at gatwick, at heathrow and at manchester is not actually about "short haul" EU flights.... its about more landing spots for Long haul traffic....

american airline operators have wanted more landing spots for "london" for years.... and were promised some more under "open skies"

this is also about long haul operations going the other way, to the middle east, china, india for example.... where with the advent of greener long distance aircraft those route become more profitable...."

Don't forget about all those Asian, middle Eastern, and Indian people flying over here as a part of the free trade deals we will be negotiating.

-Matt

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