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"Who said these very words to a House of Lords EU Committee... "it'd be 'quite nice' to stay in the Customs Union" " Haven't a bloody clue, but no doubt you are itching to tell us all. | |||
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"Was it Brexit Bulldog - Mr Davis? " We have a winner! Does anybody know what the Tories are actually aiming for yet? Its been over a year and the clock is ticking. | |||
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"It's not like too-hot to make shit up is it lol " AHA did he make it up though...cos it seemed to me by the responses none of the brexiters knew who said it...i did btw | |||
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"He did start the thread with only half the context tho Loves to stir shit tho doesn't he " Ok let's put it another way.... Is there a difference between either of these two statements: It would be nice to stay in the customs union but we can't if we want the independence of negotiating our own trade deals. We are absolutely not staying in the customs union because we want the independence that allows us to negotiate our own trade deals. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. " That the same guy who said the NHS would be 350m better off per week one day then retracted the next day | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. That the same guy who said the NHS would be 350m better off per week one day then retracted the next day " the very same guy who promised not to close any fire stations if he became Mayor.. then closed 10.. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. " Will the divorce bill be the fight of the autumn? Because I dont think we've recovered from the fight of the summer over sequencing. Unless the Tories are still a disorganised mess we'll see them cave on the citizenship issue next week. Though Im sure they'll cave on everything except the supranational court that will be above British courts. They'll hold off on that till the trade court is decided and have it manage trade and citizen rights. Then Centaur will claim it as a monumental victory for Davis and May who always wanted to have a court above the British one and always wanted to give the EU everything they asked for on citizen rights. The EU dont know what theyre in for next week when David tells them how it is!!!! | |||
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"Radio 4 fucking hell you need to get out more bud lol " I only listen to it when Im out, we don't even have a radio in the house! | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. " Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. " To which the reply from the EU was "I can't hear any whistle but I can hear a clock ticking". | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. " You do realise we will end up paying dont you? The fucktard BoJo will, yet again, be shown up for the gobshite and liar he has always been. | |||
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" Then Centaur will claim it as a monumental victory for Davis and May who always wanted to have a court above the British one and always wanted to give the EU everything they asked for on citizen rights. The EU dont know what theyre in for next week when David tells them how it is!!!! " He's the forums Brexit Mohammad Said Sahhaf | |||
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"Another one then. Who, yesterday, said: "So that's trade deals with the US and Oz in the bag. Remoaners must be hating this." -Matt" Lord Jones - interpreting Trumps assertion that a trade deal will be concluded quickly. | |||
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"Another one then. Who, yesterday, said: "So that's trade deals with the US and Oz in the bag. Remoaners must be hating this." -Matt Lord Jones - interpreting Trumps assertion that a trade deal will be concluded quickly." Bingo. You win a cookie. You would have thought being a commercial lawyer that he might be a bit more precise in his assessment. And that Trump and Turnbull mentioning about wanting a deal is far from 'in the bag'. Especially with Trump's approach to deals. Between him and David Davis tweeting at the start of this process that the UK would create a post-Brexit bilateral deal with Germany shows just how incompetent these people are. -Matt | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. " The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. " If that is the case, how is that only a section of the British population has been able to see through it? I mean if life is going to be so good outside, you would think every other EU country would be banging at the exit door and the chief U.K. Brexiters would be celebrating their visionary foresight? No, in fact they are actually stating that no one will follow the Brits out of the EU. The top Nobs know that the UK population has been the victim of a massive con job - but do they care about you and I? Do they fuck. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. If that is the case, how is that only a section of the British population has been able to see through it? I mean if life is going to be so good outside, you would think every other EU country would be banging at the exit door and the chief U.K. Brexiters would be celebrating their visionary foresight? No, in fact they are actually stating that no one will follow the Brits out of the EU. The top Nobs know that the UK population has been the victim of a massive con job - but do they care about you and I? Do they fuck." ..Who's they.?? | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. " Oh. my fucking god. You are unreal. Seriously? You are going to pick fault in an analogy? Really? Here, let me let you into a little secret. Are you sitting down? This is going to blow your little mind... Boris wasn't actually going to whistle at the EU. -Matt | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. Oh. my fucking god. You are unreal. Seriously? You are going to pick fault in an analogy? Really? Here, let me let you into a little secret. Are you sitting down? This is going to blow your little mind... Boris wasn't actually going to whistle at the EU. -Matt" I know Boris wasn't going to whistle, he told the EU that they could go whistle for a Brexit bill. So the EU can whistle when they've stopped listening to their old fashioned analogue ticking clocks. | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. Oh. my fucking god. You are unreal. Seriously? You are going to pick fault in an analogy? Really? Here, let me let you into a little secret. Are you sitting down? This is going to blow your little mind... Boris wasn't actually going to whistle at the EU. -Matt" This shows how desperate Brexiters are getting | |||
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"I know who told the EU that they could go whistle for any Brexit bill yesterday. Can you tell me what Michel Barniers retort was? No, I expect you can't, being so confident that the brits are equipped with such superior brainpower (Boris, lol) they don't need to look at the other sides weaponry. I'll help you out. He said 'I am not hearing any whistling, just the clock ticking' The Europeans are even handing us a lesson in wit. That encapsulates the brexiters all over. Fuckwits, almost to a man. The EU still has old fashioned ticking clocks? Surely they should have modern silent digital clocks in this day and age. As Michael Gove said during the EU referendum though the EU is an analogue organisation in a now digital age, it's not fit for purpose in the modern world and is well past its sell by date. That's the EU all over though, outdated with its best days behind it so not surprising Barnier used an old fashioned ticking clock reference. Oh. my fucking god. You are unreal. Seriously? You are going to pick fault in an analogy? Really? Here, let me let you into a little secret. Are you sitting down? This is going to blow your little mind... Boris wasn't actually going to whistle at the EU. -Matt I know Boris wasn't going to whistle, he told the EU that they could go whistle for a Brexit bill. So the EU can whistle when they've stopped listening to their old fashioned analogue ticking clocks. " But theyre not going to be whistling are they? Britains going to pay up. All thats left now is for the Tories to try and bring down the sticker price as beat they can. They'll just massage the numbers as best they can and bury figures in other parts of the deal to try and bring it to a number that looks like they got something. I wont be surprised if they "negotiate" to pay pensions directly rather than sending the money to Brussels to pay (even though UK'd pay more thanks to additional administration costs). Add the rebate and what subsidies the UK are already due from the settlement bill (which is the EUs position) and it wont be long before Centaurs on here celebrating giving the EU exactly what they asked for originally: full payment,less pensions which will be paid directly, less the rebate and subsidies the EU always said the UK were due. Go Team Brexit!! | |||
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"The Blind lol. Our government prepays with our tax for the right trade in the EU it is not a free trade area. Any customs fees applied by the EU will also be applied by us in return and as we buy more from them our government will be the winner there. It would price them out of the world market where We will also be free to trade with any one we wish and if the French and Germans wish to act as spoilt barts they should remember we will be free to do as we please to them in return." Why don't you try just for one second thinking that you have an enemy across the English Channel. You just need to read some different newspapers and open your mind up a bit. Customs tariffs work all over the world and between all sorts of countries. We have chosen to leave the EU andbit appears the single market and customs union. This is our choice and there will be consequences for that decision which will build over time. For a start, it is logical that any country importing products wants to know their origin and quality. Also neither we, nor the EU would want a domestic market damaged by cheap imports. These are consequences of leaving the EU and not an agenda set by the EU. | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term." Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway. | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term. Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway." I think that we were largely exempt from bailing Greece out. | |||
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"The Blind lol. Our government prepays with our tax for the right trade in the EU it is not a free trade area. Any customs fees applied by the EU will also be applied by us in return and as we buy more from them our government will be the winner there. It would price them out of the world market where We will also be free to trade with any one we wish and if the French and Germans wish to act as spoilt barts they should remember we will be free to do as we please to them in return." The EUs exports to the UK are ~8%, compared to 48% of the UKs exports being to the EU. Now if you were a company would you rather lose 8% or 48% of your companies business? Not to mention that 54% of your imports are from the EU. Plenty have made the point your trying to make and its still a non factor. Manufacturing and farming associations and unions across the EU are backing a hard deal for the UK because none of them care if the Tories try and retaliate on trade. Youre 1 country that needs to export to and import from the EU to survive. The EU doesnt need the UK. Thats why the EU negotiating team has been able to dictate brexit talks and the Tories have been loudmouths right up until the point comes where they capitulate. | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term. Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway." maybe someone needs to tell you that don't just decide to do free trade with the rest of the world ...you have to go ask each individual country for a free trade deal ... | |||
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" Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway." You gota love it when people start spouting off total fabrication The UK has not assisted in bailing Greece out at all directly, nor never would we in the future either. The only money we paid which ended up in a Greek bailout was through the normal EU contribution fund but all liabilities we're held by Eurozone countries & not us. We helped bail out NI & Portugal with no loss to us either. | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term. Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway. maybe someone needs to tell you that don't just decide to do free trade with the rest of the world ...you have to go ask each individual country for a free trade deal ..." Australia for one has already said it wants a free trade deal signed speedily with the UK after brexit. USA said they want to sign a very powerful trade deal with the UK very, very quickly after brexit. The UK already has a working group going with India on a new trade deal after brexit. The uk government has a list of 27 countries who want a trade deal with the UK after brexit. | |||
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"Hello all, there is no choice, when we leave the E.U., we leave the (E.U.) Customs Union. It is not optional although you'd think so listening to some people. Alec" So how come some countries are in the customs union, but not the EU then? | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term. Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway. maybe someone needs to tell you that don't just decide to do free trade with the rest of the world ...you have to go ask each individual country for a free trade deal ... Australia for one has already said it wants a free trade deal signed speedily with the UK after brexit. USA said they want to sign a very powerful trade deal with the UK very, very quickly after brexit. The UK already has a working group going with India on a new trade deal after brexit. The uk government has a list of 27 countries who want a trade deal with the UK after brexit. " So why aren't we formally negotiating already like David Davis said we would be? | |||
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"Staying is right and for the best, longer term. Giving away our right to rule our country is not right in any way Nor is it a free trade area our government uses our tax to prepay for the right to trade. £350 million a week it will only take a small $ of that to pay the EU customs fees on out goods plus we will be collecting more from the EU in fees in return as they sell more to us than we do to them. Nor will we have to pay hand outs to Grease or Ireland the next time they need it. Even if the EU imposes a large fee for us leaving it would equate to them keeping that money we gave Grease, money we prob would never get back anyway. maybe someone needs to tell you that don't just decide to do free trade with the rest of the world ...you have to go ask each individual country for a free trade deal ... Australia for one has already said it wants a free trade deal signed speedily with the UK after brexit. USA said they want to sign a very powerful trade deal with the UK very, very quickly after brexit. The UK already has a working group going with India on a new trade deal after brexit. The uk government has a list of 27 countries who want a trade deal with the UK after brexit. " Australia said AFTER they have signed the deal with the EU....ie the EU comes first genius what dont you get about this stuff...i've see your post on another thread about this...your words in reply to another poster were utter rubbish....im saying to you that its you talking utter nonsense on this...the only positive fact you have come up with in all of this is that inflation dropped by 0.03 last month and being summer there could be mitigating circumstances why....come back with hard facts and not just hearsay like America WANTS a strong trade deal....to be honest thats the red bus shite being pushed again by Davis and his motley crew...hit us with facts not hearsay... | |||
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