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"Over the last three months? I imagine it's been quite a lot of fun what with the election fiasco and the brexit clusterfucks and stupid watergate. As well as the terrorist attacks and grenfell towers "Usual left/right difference of opinions, generally disintegrating into a Brexit arguement. Same old, same old.  | |||
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"Over the last three months? I imagine it's been quite a lot of fun what with the election fiasco and the brexit clusterfucks and stupid watergate. As well as the terrorist attacks and grenfell towers "How was prison anyway? Get time off for good behaviour? | |||
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"There are up sides to prison for the likes of me "thats what you get for not paying ya tv license...... see what i did there...... | |||
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"Seriously though, have the hard right brexiters and trump fans not all held their hands up and acknowledged they were wrong and have changed their minds?" Nope. Brexit is still going to be a success, a glorious, wonderous success that will make the EU beg to become part of the United Kingdom. Donald is still being bullied and the victim of a witch hunt. And just because his son, campaign manager and one of his 2 key advisors met with an agent acting on behalf of the Kremlin, in a meeting to see how Putin could support Donnies election doesnt mean theres any truth to the idea that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. And Donald has been the most successful president of all time although his only accomplishment is his watered down temporary travel ban. All the others are coming though. Honestly. Its just on the horizon. Not now obviously, but soon....soonish...but it'll definitely happen as long as he doesnt get impeached. | |||
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"Seriously though, have the hard right brexiters and trump fans not all held their hands up and acknowledged they were wrong and have changed their minds?" ha ha ha..... you so funny..... | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad. "The evolution of their version of truth is startling. We didnt meet with the Russians. We did meet but we talked about adoptions not about colluding on the election. We did talk about concluding but Kushner and Manafort didnt know about it beforehand. We did meet the Russians to collude, Jr took the meeting on this basis and he informed Manafort and Kushner of this and heres the email that proves it. | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad. "well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque...... actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting! | |||
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"Oops, wrong thread, this must be the losers club. I'll look for something interesting" ouch!!!! that one cut.......... | |||
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"Oops, wrong thread, this must be the losers club. I'll look for something interesting" Your in the wrong losers club....the other one is that way | |||
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"Oops, wrong thread, this must be the losers club. " Is your real name Luka Pibernik? | |||
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"Oops, wrong thread, this must be the losers club. I'll look for something interesting" Says one of the people so easily manipulated by Russia that they believed the shit aimed at Americans | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad.
well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque......
actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting!"...At least Trump jr released all his email chain,unlike Hillary who destroyed 30.000 and smashed cell phones. | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad.
well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque......
actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting!...At least Trump jr released all his email chain,unlike Hillary who destroyed 30.000 and smashed cell phones."He released 1 email chain that the New York Times already had and was about to publish. Thats why this all came out. And Clinton isnt relevant to the Trump/Russia collusion. If he gets charged he cant defend himself based on what anyone else did. Either he colluded with an enemy government or he didnt. | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad.
well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque......
actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting!...At least Trump jr released all his email chain,unlike Hillary who destroyed 30.000 and smashed cell phones.
He released 1 email chain that the New York Times already had and was about to publish. Thats why this all came out.
And Clinton isnt relevant to the Trump/Russia collusion. If he gets charged he cant defend himself based on what anyone else did. Either he colluded with an enemy government or he didnt."Since when was Russia an enemy? Jeez losers are like children on here | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad.
well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque......
actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting!...At least Trump jr released all his email chain,unlike Hillary who destroyed 30.000 and smashed cell phones."Or the 22 MILLION emails 'lost' by the Bush administration. Or the thousands of emails that Donald Trumps companies destroyed against specific court orders. But Trumps seems to be wise to that and hence why all senior Trump officials use private email addresses and servers. And why Trumps staff use chat apps that are designed to not keep any trace so that they can't be subpoenaed. -Matt | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad.
well don jr did go on his dads fav show last night "hannity" on fox news... where said host when on to probe, it was also Frost-nixon like, paxman-esque......
actually i lied... "sean" lobbed up softballs for don jr to answer, if he has asked the question "so.. hows dad?" that would have been more hard hitting!...At least Trump jr released all his email chain,unlike Hillary who destroyed 30.000 and smashed cell phones.
He released 1 email chain that the New York Times already had and was about to publish. Thats why this all came out.
And Clinton isnt relevant to the Trump/Russia collusion. If he gets charged he cant defend himself based on what anyone else did. Either he colluded with an enemy government or he didnt.
Since when was Russia an enemy? Jeez losers are like children on here"I didn't realise that the USA was at war with Russia either. Maybe wishful thinking from the deluded Clinton fanboys on here. | |||
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Enemies arent always at war. But Russia is interfering in elections across the western world including America, Britain and France. Its taken over sovereign territory of the Ukraine and Georgia. They shot down a plane of civilians flying from the Netherlands killing 298 innocent civilians. Its fighting a proxy war in Syria supporting a mad man that uses chemical weapons.
Theyve also used cyber warfare against Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Germany, NATO, the US (including the White House and the State department), the UK, The Netherlands, Finland among others.
But Centaur would have you believe that his Uncle Vlad is just misunderstood and we shouldnt worry about cyber attacks, invasions, shooting down 300 civilians or chemical weapons. Because he'll try to distract by saying Clinton or someone else did a bad thing once and that makes it ok. | |||
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Enemies arent always at war. But Russia is interfering in elections across the western world including America, Britain and France. Its taken over sovereign territory of the Ukraine and Georgia. They shot down a plane of civilians flying from the Netherlands killing 298 innocent civilians. Its fighting a proxy war in Syria supporting a mad man that uses chemical weapons.
Theyve also used cyber warfare against Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Germany, NATO, the US (including the White House and the State department), the UK, The Netherlands, Finland among others.
But Centaur would have you believe that his Uncle Vlad is just misunderstood and we shouldnt worry about cyber attacks, invasions, shooting down 300 civilians or chemical weapons. Because he'll try to distract by saying Clinton or someone else did a bad thing once and that makes it ok."Exactly the same slant as he put on the raciest woman mp in another thread....he believe's mistakenly two wrongs make a right...silly boy  | |||
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"Russia has been a key ally of the west in Syria in the fight against Islamic State and has helped to reduce the territory of Islamic State held in Syria. Without the intervention of Russia in Syria then Islamic state would be in a much stronger position than they are now. The weakening of Islamic state in Syria has also lead to Islamic state being all but beaten in neighbouring Iraq. As for Ukraine, it was the EU who destabilised that country in the first place by encouraging a coup to oust a democratically elected Ukraine leader (who happened to be more aligned with Russia) and then the EU tried to facilitate and support the installment of a Pro EU Ukraine leader to take his place. Does the EU really think it can provoke Russia in that way and get away with it? When you poke the Russian bear you will get bitten. The EU has a lot to answer for and has blood on its hands in Ukraine. " Bugger me i thought it would be the EU's fault haha | |||
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"Russia has been a key ally of the west in Syria in the fight against Islamic State and has helped to reduce the territory of Islamic State held in Syria. Without the intervention of Russia in Syria then Islamic state would be in a much stronger position than they are now. The weakening of Islamic state in Syria has also lead to Islamic state being all but beaten in neighbouring Iraq. As for Ukraine, it was the EU who destabilised that country in the first place by encouraging a coup to oust a democratically elected Ukraine leader (who happened to be more aligned with Russia) and then the EU tried to facilitate and support the installment of a Pro EU Ukraine leader to take his place. Does the EU really think it can provoke Russia in that way and get away with it? When you poke the Russian bear you will get bitten. The EU has a lot to answer for and has blood on its hands in Ukraine. " Lies Centaur, complete lies. I havent seen you be this brazenly dishonest since you claimed that Davis giving in to EU demands was a victory for Davis. Heres a little history for you. In 2004 Yanukovych (the russian sympathiser) rigged an election which was proven and the result thrown out in the Ukranian Supreme Court. The election was run again and Russians poisoned his opponent. Peaceful protests were held against the corruption, the electoral coup by the Russians and the attempted assassination. These peaceful protests were supported by pro democracy groups in the west. Russia countered through election fraud, voter intimidation and a disinformation campaign. He still lost the election though Russia continued its efforts to turn the Ukraine into a puppet state. Yanukovych did regain power with 48% of the vote 6 years later. And after moving the Ukraine to Russia and away from the EU there were further protests although these were not the peaceful western backed protests of before but violent clashes as the pro Russian government moved to stamp out all dissent. Yanukovych was impeached and a snap election held where "the will of the people" meant that a majority backed a pro EU candidate. After this democratic election Russia invaded and held phoney referendums to try and validate its illegal occupation. Nearly 10,000 have died in the resulting violence from the invasion. But Centaur you dont care about the will of the people of the Ukraine because it doesnt suit you. You care about democracy when it agrees with you. You also dont care about the facts because of the last 3 leaders 2 were pro EU and were elected in fair open elections and 1 was pro Russia and had been involved in election fraud, assassination and voter intimidation. Yet you pretend the EU installed the democratically elected leader. I hope what ever you get paid to push your pro Russia, anti EU and anti UK propaganda is at least worth a few bob | |||
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"Seriously though, have the hard right brexiters and trump fans not all held their hands up and acknowledged they were wrong and have changed their minds? Nope. Brexit is still going to be a success, a glorious, wonderous success that will make the EU beg to become part of the United Kingdom. Donald is still being bullied and the victim of a witch hunt. And just because his son, campaign manager and one of his 2 key advisors met with an agent acting on behalf of the Kremlin, in a meeting to see how Putin could support Donnies election doesnt mean theres any truth to the idea that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. And Donald has been the most successful president of all time although his only accomplishment is his watered down temporary travel ban. All the others are coming though. Honestly. Its just on the horizon. Not now obviously, but soon....soonish...but it'll definitely happen as long as he doesnt get impeached." On a technicality, he needs to be impeached then found guilty. Impeachment is only the process of bringing him to trial, he'd still have to be found guilty of what ever crime he was impeached for. Clinton was impeached but then not found guilty. | |||
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" Lies Centaur, complete lies. I havent seen you be this brazenly dishonest since you claimed that Davis giving in to EU demands was a victory for Davis. D" You've got to be kidding me? He did not
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"Seriously though, have the hard right brexiters and trump fans not all held their hands up and acknowledged they were wrong and have changed their minds? Nope. Brexit is still going to be a success, a glorious, wonderous success that will make the EU beg to become part of the United Kingdom. Donald is still being bullied and the victim of a witch hunt. And just because his son, campaign manager and one of his 2 key advisors met with an agent acting on behalf of the Kremlin, in a meeting to see how Putin could support Donnies election doesnt mean theres any truth to the idea that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. And Donald has been the most successful president of all time although his only accomplishment is his watered down temporary travel ban. All the others are coming though. Honestly. Its just on the horizon. Not now obviously, but soon....soonish...but it'll definitely happen as long as he doesnt get impeached. On a technicality, he needs to be impeached then found guilty. Impeachment is only the process of bringing him to trial, he'd still have to be found guilty of what ever crime he was impeached for. Clinton was impeached but then not found guilty." True. On the one hand I hope he's tried, it would be incredible to see. On the other its better for the country to see him resign and get pardoned. Theres too many people on this forum who ignore the facts and believe what they want, never mind the entirety of the US. Whether he pardons him or not the decision will sink Pences re-election hopes. | |||
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"I see the official White House position is that the President's son learned the Russian government was backing his dad and never told his dad. "Shhhhhhhhhhhh.! It's a secret.. Comrade | |||
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"Russia has been a key ally of the west in Syria in the fight against Islamic State and has helped to reduce the territory of Islamic State held in Syria. Without the intervention of Russia in Syria then Islamic state would be in a much stronger position than they are now. The weakening of Islamic state in Syria has also lead to Islamic state being all but beaten in neighbouring Iraq. As for Ukraine, it was the EU who destabilised that country in the first place by encouraging a coup to oust a democratically elected Ukraine leader (who happened to be more aligned with Russia) and then the EU tried to facilitate and support the installment of a Pro EU Ukraine leader to take his place. Does the EU really think it can provoke Russia in that way and get away with it? When you poke the Russian bear you will get bitten. The EU has a lot to answer for and has blood on its hands in Ukraine. Lies Centaur, complete lies. I havent seen you be this brazenly dishonest since you claimed that Davis giving in to EU demands was a victory for Davis. Heres a little history for you. In 2004 Yanukovych (the russian sympathiser) rigged an election which was proven and the result thrown out in the Ukranian Supreme Court. The election was run again and Russians poisoned his opponent. Peaceful protests were held against the corruption, the electoral coup by the Russians and the attempted assassination. These peaceful protests were supported by pro democracy groups in the west. Russia countered through election fraud, voter intimidation and a disinformation campaign. He still lost the election though Russia continued its efforts to turn the Ukraine into a puppet state. Yanukovych did regain power with 48% of the vote 6 years later. And after moving the Ukraine to Russia and away from the EU there were further protests although these were not the peaceful western backed protests of before but violent clashes as the pro Russian government moved to stamp out all dissent. Yanukovych was impeached and a snap election held where "the will of the people" meant that a majority backed a pro EU candidate. After this democratic election Russia invaded and held phoney referendums to try and validate its illegal occupation. Nearly 10,000 have died in the resulting violence from the invasion. But Centaur you dont care about the will of the people of the Ukraine because it doesnt suit you. You care about democracy when it agrees with you. You also dont care about the facts because of the last 3 leaders 2 were pro EU and were elected in fair open elections and 1 was pro Russia and had been involved in election fraud, assassination and voter intimidation. Yet you pretend the EU installed the democratically elected leader. I hope what ever you get paid to push your pro Russia, anti EU and anti UK propaganda is at least worth a few bob ""You care about Democracy when it agrees with you" HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL, you are hilarious.
Macron won in France and I really genuinely couldn't care less about it. Personally I'd have preferred it if Le Pen won but she lost, so what? You on the other hand seem to hate democracy, you love the EU which is a fundamentally anti democratic organisation and when democracy goes against you as it did in the Brexit vote, the Trump vote and the UK general election vote (which the tories still won) you bitch and moan and cry and stamp your feet like a little toddler having a temper tantrum. So I'll take no lectures about democracy from you.
As for the EU's involvement in Ukraine it is very well documented. A quick basic check on Google proves it. You had people like EU MEP Guy Verhofstadt (who Nigel Farage has called the high Priest of the EU project) in Kiev just prior to the troubles in Ukraine, stirring up tensions and urging a mob of EU flag waving morons to engage in a coup to topple a democratically elected government there. The EU thought it could send fanatical EU zealots like Verhofstadt to Kiev and it would lead to Ukraine joining the EU, another country the EU thought it could get its claws into and bleed dry. How wrong the EU were Putin is no walkover and has put the EU firmly back in its place.
Lastly I'm not getting paid by anyone, I post on here for fun and to challenge the false narrative constantly put out by the likes of you.
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" "You care about Democracy when it agrees with you" HAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOL, you are hilarious.
Macron won in France and I really genuinely couldn't care less about it. Personally I'd have preferred it if Le Pen won but she lost, so what? You on the other hand seem to hate democracy, you love the EU which is a fundamentally anti democratic organisation and when democracy goes against you as it did in the Brexit vote, the Trump vote and the UK general election vote (which the tories still won) you bitch and moan and cry and stamp your feet like a little toddler having a temper tantrum. So I'll take no lectures about democracy from you.
As for the EU's involvement in Ukraine it is very well documented. A quick basic check on Google proves it. You had people like EU MEP Guy Verhofstadt (who Nigel Farage has called the high Priest of the EU project) in Kiev just prior to the troubles in Ukraine, stirring up tensions and urging a mob of EU flag waving morons to engage in a coup to topple a democratically elected government there. The EU thought it could send fanatical EU zealots like Verhofstadt to Kiev and it would lead to Ukraine joining the EU, another country the EU thought it could get its claws into and bleed dry. How wrong the EU were Putin is no walkover and has put the EU firmly back in its place.
Lastly I'm not getting paid by anyone, I post on here for fun and to challenge the false narrative constantly put out by the likes of you.
"I dont debate that Trump or Brexiters won. They did. I just discuss how Brexit is proceeding and what the results will be. And I talk about the ongoing revelations about the Trump administration. But I dont dispute either result. You on the otherhand tried to lie and say that the corrupt candidate found by the Supreme Court to have tried to rig an election was a just candidate and lied about the fair winners being "installed" by the EU. Thats denying democratic results. And once again youve been dishonest in your retelling of events. Verhofstadt arrived in Ukraine *after* the fighting started and gave a pro democracy speech that took the pro Russian puppet government to task for corruption and violence against civilians. And Putin is still responsible for killing 298 civilians on a plane from Amsterdam, supportigmng chemical weapon use against Syrian civiliand, the deaths of nearly 10,000 Ukranians as a result of his illegal invasion and cyber warfare against countries across Europe including your own. But I guess you're quite happy to support murdering innocent people and attacks against your own country. | |||
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