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"Yes, most of them are xenophobes. " You missed out the old and thick bit | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754" There's a few people in here who could do with looking at this judgment before making some of the comments that they make about May, Corbyn et al. The racist element in this case was only an aggregating factor. Making threats to harm someone or encouraging and inciting others to do harm to someone is an offence in and of itself, regardless of how deserving of harm the offender feels the person they are threatening or inciting others to threaten or harm may be. | |||
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"There's a few people in here who could do with looking at this judgment before making some of the comments that they make about May, Corbyn et al. The racist element in this case was only an aggregating factor. Making threats to harm someone or encouraging and inciting others to do harm to someone is an offence in and of itself, regardless of how deserving of harm the offender feels the person they are threatening or inciting others to threaten or harm may be." Who here has offered to pay £5000 to anyone who will maliciously wound a named person for them? I would say the man is very lucky that no one attempted to 'earn' that cash. I would also say if he were not aristocracy he would not have got off with a summary trial (max 2 years imprisonment) but would have been tried in a Crown Court and be looking at a much longer sentence. | |||
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"Yes, most of them are xenophobes. You missed out the old and thick bit" Yes that too, that is a stereotypical brexitor. | |||
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"Yes, most of them are xenophobes. You missed out the old and thick bitYes that too, that is a stereotypical brexitor. " Whereas your description isnt stereotypical at all is it, you must be a busy boy knowing 17 million voters | |||
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"Awwwww shaq your way better than that mate " I know lol, just few of them there. | |||
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"Well reading it...it was not only the once he made threats and racists remarks....i hope he gets what he deserves " No, some fairly nasty views mentioned there. I wonder if some of the forumites disbelieve that these comments are racist like they do with the comments of that conservative MP. | |||
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"maybe i missed it but i don't recall forumites offering contracts to have public figures whacked " Can't say I've ever seen money offered. | |||
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"Well reading it...it was not only the once he made threats and racists remarks....i hope he gets what he deserves No, some fairly nasty views mentioned there. I wonder if some of the forumites disbelieve that these comments are racist like they do with the comments of that conservative MP." I think it's beyond doubt that the remarks were racist but, while the court agreed that the remarks were racist, that was not the offence he was found guilty of. The offence was the incitement to do harm, racism was an aggravating element, which means the sentence will be harsher than it would have been if there had been no racist aggravating element. | |||
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"There's a few people in here who could do with looking at this judgment before making some of the comments that they make about May, Corbyn et al. The racist element in this case was only an aggregating factor. Making threats to harm someone or encouraging and inciting others to do harm to someone is an offence in and of itself, regardless of how deserving of harm the offender feels the person they are threatening or inciting others to threaten or harm may be. Who here has offered to pay £5000 to anyone who will maliciously wound a named person for them? I would say the man is very lucky that no one attempted to 'earn' that cash. I would also say if he were not aristocracy he would not have got off with a summary trial (max 2 years imprisonment) but would have been tried in a Crown Court and be looking at a much longer sentence." You don't need to be offering money to be inciting or encouraging someone to commit a crime. | |||
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"maybe i missed it but i don't recall forumites offering contracts to have public figures whacked " See above answer | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754" What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you " Im taking it you know who Gina Miller is and what she did ? | |||
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"What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? " Hate crimes have increased 100% in the year following Brexit. But you'll probably claim thats a coincidence despite the fact that theres no comparable jump like that since the UK started measuring it. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you " Did you read the article? | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? " It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? " Probably the majority, yeah. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Probably the majority, yeah." Based on what facts? | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? " Read the article | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article " I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. " Theres more than one..Anne morris anyone.. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Probably the majority, yeah." That's just like saying that the majority of muslims are extreamists, it that's not true either! Just because the press highlights the few cases does not make it so. They are out to sell papers end of | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? " No, what we're saying is that this guy broke the law by encouraging others to attack someone. We're also saying that the original offence was aggregated by a racist element. Maybe you should just condemn the guy for what he clearly is, a racist bully. The fact that he is also a BREXITer is no excuse. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. " The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not." But that also is the same thing as constantly expecting immams and Muslim communities to actively condemn extremism every time something' happenes. After a while it gets tiresome | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not." and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not. and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes." You made the point that you thought that "the majority of people that voted leave are racist". I asked you on what facts you based that assumption on. Now, are you saying that the whole of the Brexit camp is right wing, or is there a separate right wing in the Brexit camp? | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not. and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes." They see it as a sign of weakness to capitulate but mostly they see nothing wrong just over sensitive lefty snowflakes. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. The fact that so many BREXITers are looking at ways to try and defend what this racist bully has done, haven't condemned him outright and are constantly trying to deflect this into an argument about whether all BREXITers are racist doesn't exactly make it look like that they are not. But that also is the same thing as constantly expecting immams and Muslim communities to actively condemn extremism every time something' happenes. After a while it gets tiresome " All the imams that I know do condemn extremism but that's irrelevant and just another diversion tactic. In this case it's not just that the BREXITers are not condemning him, they are actually trying to excuse it. It almost like, because he supports BREXIT and she doesn't, BREXITers seem to think that anything he's said or done is OK by them. As I said before, BREXIT is no excuse for racism. BREXITers do their credibility no good at all my not condemning it just because the person being racist is a BREXITer. | |||
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" and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes." No, the point you made was to say all those who voted leave are probably racists. | |||
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" and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes. No, the point you made was to say all those who voted leave are probably racists. " If you try and deflect and refuse to condemn then you probably are a racist.As has been seen in my threads on here. Suck it up butter cup. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? Read the article I make that one person. If we're going to generalise based on one appalling human being then everyone of every opinion is screwed. " Yes, i make it one person too. Where did I say every Brexiter was racist? | |||
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" and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes. No, the point you made was to say all those who voted leave are probably racists. If you try and deflect and refuse to condemn then you probably are a racist.As has been seen in my threads on here. Suck it up butter cup. " Where in this forum post have I refused to condemn? If I had condoned what Rhodri Philipps had done then you could call me a racist. | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy. " nope .... you're both just being childish ... grow up the pair of you | |||
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" and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes. No, the point you made was to say all those who voted leave are probably racists. If you try and deflect and refuse to condemn then you probably are a racist.As has been seen in my threads on here. Suck it up butter cup. Where in this forum post have I refused to condemn? If I had condoned what Rhodri Philipps had done then you could call me a racist." i was refering to others here who constantly deflect and refuse to condemn racism.Are you trying to deflect? | |||
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"So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy. " No, thats not what has been said in the title, the opening post, or in the article. | |||
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" Yes, i make it one person too. Where did I say every Brexiter was racist? " You didn't. Others who have posted did. | |||
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"As for being childish, accusing a whole swathe of people you know nothing about of being racist or thick or anything else is about as childish as it gets..... " 'It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy.' ..... but it's ok for you to direct that comment at a whole swathe of people you know nothing about ....now you've become a hypocrite as well as puerile ... you have an awful lot of growing up to do fella | |||
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" i was refering to others here who constantly deflect and refuse to condemn racism.Are you trying to deflect?" Oh really! It sounded like it was directed straight at me. The 'suck it up buttercup' at the end kinda gave it away! I'm not trying to deflect. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? " I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading" The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist." Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ?" I would say that nearly all racists probably voted leave. | |||
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" i was refering to others here who constantly deflect and refuse to condemn racism.Are you trying to deflect? Oh really! It sounded like it was directed straight at me. The 'suck it up buttercup' at the end kinda gave it away! I'm not trying to deflect." Yeah you have to suck it up that im gonna call people out if they deflect and dont condemn. Simples. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? I would say that nearly all racists probably voted leave." Thats true but how many. I Would guess 10% are xenophobic morons and less are full on racists. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? I would say that nearly all racists probably voted leave." Now that is deflection! | |||
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"As for being childish, accusing a whole swathe of people you know nothing about of being racist or thick or anything else is about as childish as it gets..... 'It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy.' ..... but it's ok for you to direct that comment at a whole swathe of people you know nothing about ....now you've become a hypocrite as well as puerile ... you have an awful lot of growing up to do fella " Oh dear, do try to read. They are the people saying all brexiters are racist. I was not aiming my comments at all remainers, rather those who made the comment in the first place. It is a legitimate use of "they". I don't do broad brush smearing because it's beneath me. I'd much rather have an intelligent debate than resort to name calling. | |||
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"As for being childish, accusing a whole swathe of people you know nothing about of being racist or thick or anything else is about as childish as it gets..... 'It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy.' ..... but it's ok for you to direct that comment at a whole swathe of people you know nothing about ....now you've become a hypocrite as well as puerile ... you have an awful lot of growing up to do fella Oh dear, do try to read. They are the people saying all brexiters are racist. I was not aiming my comments at all remainers, rather those who made the comment in the first place. It is a legitimate use of "they". I don't do broad brush smearing because it's beneath me. I'd much rather have an intelligent debate than resort to name calling. " you broad brush smeared in that quote i gave you ... it's there in print for all to see ... grow up and own your hypocritical words that you wrote | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ?" As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! | |||
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"As for being childish, accusing a whole swathe of people you know nothing about of being racist or thick or anything else is about as childish as it gets..... 'It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy.' ..... but it's ok for you to direct that comment at a whole swathe of people you know nothing about ....now you've become a hypocrite as well as puerile ... you have an awful lot of growing up to do fella Oh dear, do try to read. They are the people saying all brexiters are racist. I was not aiming my comments at all remainers, rather those who made the comment in the first place. It is a legitimate use of "they". I don't do broad brush smearing because it's beneath me. I'd much rather have an intelligent debate than resort to name calling. you broad brush smeared in that quote i gave you ... it's there in print for all to see ... grow up and own your hypocritical words that you wrote " And finally.... because this is boring. "They" referred to the poster (singular) stating that brexiters are racist. While a broad brush would enable me to cover the surface area of one poster more quickly, it's not a generalisation. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry!" I would agree with you there, we all dislike some people, often for little logical reason,its just human nature the issue I have is the holier than thou attitude of some that fail to see their own predujices, the racism card is just too easy to use | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry!" On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? " Maybe its a tory thing.We are all in it togeather. . We are all brexiters now. | |||
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" and that's the point I was trying to make. The lack of condemnation from the right wing brexit camp speaks volumes. No, the point you made was to say all those who voted leave are probably racists. .........although many of us totally condemn it (though for me I can't stand the woman), he was completely out of order. Politics has nothing to do with that sort of attitude. " | |||
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"e And finally.... because this is boring. "They" referred to the poster (singular) stating that brexiters are racist. While a broad brush would enable me to cover the surface area of one poster more quickly, it's not a generalisation. " no. it is a generalisation ... you responded in agreement to the following quote ... "So what all you remainers are saying is that everyone that voted leave is racist ? " with this response... "It's what they have always said. Apparently it's easier to smear than to actually find out the truth. It's sad and pathetic but it makes them happy." .... so the context is that your both smearing with a braod brush in a childish joint enterprise and then hypocritically attempted to deny it by mentioning a nameless poster and calling them "they". .... just grow up and own your words for once in your life chap | |||
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"Well said cracken agree with yr post no one is perfect it's the ppl that think they are that tend to be the real racists " Various posters here prove your point perfectly | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ?" Why leave voters?How many many of the population are racist surely that is the question!Or is it that remainers are racist against leavers this is the impression I am getting | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ?Why leave voters?How many many of the population are racist surely that is the question!Or is it that remainers are racist against leavers this is the impression I am getting" I think you must have missed the xenophobic propaganda used by the leave campaign last year to whip up hatred against minority groups.It worked.Its still with us.It will be defeated. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! I would agree with you there, we all dislike some people, often for little logical reason,its just human nature the issue I have is the holier than thou attitude of some that fail to see their own predujices, the racism card is just too easy to use" But, in this case, the guy was overtly and aggressively racist, he was a BREXIT supporter and he's clearly a hateful person. The actual offence was encouraging people to attack her because she was opposed to BREXIT, the aggravating racist element was that she should not oppose real Brits because she was the descendent of immigrants. Those calling him a hateful, racist BREXITer are, in this instance, totally correct. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? " Experience and a long, hard look at myself and things I've said and done in the past. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? Maybe its a tory thing.We are all in it togeather. . We are all brexiters now. " Anyone, whether leave or remain, or right, left or centre, who honestly believes they have never discriminated unfairly against someone is probably suffering from some serious dilutions. | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ???" No, definitely not all, probably not most but definitely some and, by the things many say, more so than on the remain side. A total condemnation by those BREXITers commenting on this thread, without reservation, would have been a better response than some we've seen. | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ??? No, definitely not all, probably not most but definitely some and, by the things many say, more so than on the remain side. A total condemnation by those BREXITers commenting on this thread, without reservation, would have been a better response than some we've seen. " . A total condemnation of what ??? | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ???" That would just be a daft thing for anyone to think. But the ones who are racist won the vote for the ones who aren't, so they should be thanking the racists. | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ??? That would just be a daft thing for anyone to think. But the ones who are racist won the vote for the ones who aren't, so they should be thanking the racists. " So you are saying that because someone voted remain that they cant be racist against say muslims, jews or any other section of the human race ? | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ??? That would just be a daft thing for anyone to think. But the ones who are racist won the vote for the ones who aren't, so they should be thanking the racists. So you are saying that because someone voted remain that they cant be racist against say muslims, jews or any other section of the human race ?" Nah hes saying the xenophobes persuaded the others to vote leave .Through various forms of xenophobic and patriotic propaganda.But he'll have to respond himself to clarify. | |||
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"But do you think all brexiteirs r hateful and racists tho ??? That would just be a daft thing for anyone to think. But the ones who are racist won the vote for the ones who aren't, so they should be thanking the racists. So you are saying that because someone voted remain that they cant be racist against say muslims, jews or any other section of the human race ?" No, I dont think I said that if you check. What I was alluding to was the fact that your card carrying EDL/Britain First members, tattooed knuckle fuckwits, old people who think the country has done downhill since the darkies were allowed in, all voted to leave. So hypothetically if there were 2 million of those dyed in the wool horrible anti-immigration racists voting leave, then those 15 million leavers who actually considered the facts and voted accordingly would not have won the referendum. The 2 million racists won it for you. (I'd say 2 million is a conservative number actually) I will say that remain voters are less likely to be racist, as they tend to be more outward looking. Whereas leavers tend to be nationalist, and that as never bred tolerance. But everyone has their little prejudices. Everyone. | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? Maybe its a tory thing.We are all in it togeather. . We are all brexiters now. Anyone, whether leave or remain, or right, left or centre, who honestly believes they have never discriminated unfairly against someone is probably suffering from some serious dilutions." Homeopathy is not a crime! -Matt | |||
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"He will be sentenced thos week, I hope they throw the book at him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754What has being a racist got to do with being a brexiter? Many remainers are also racist as are blacks whites Asians etc,it is rife in society. It is typical of your narrow minded attitude to link racism to brexiters and is ignorant beyond believe. I voted for brexit nothing to do with race whatsoever and your thread title is abusive like you Did you read the article? I must admit no but I will do but the thread title may therefore be misleading The article, the title and the OP are all in relation to one single brexiter who the courts have found to be racist. Sohow many leave voters do you think are racist ? As I believe that everyone, whether they voted leave or remain and including myself, is to a greater or lesser extent racist, often without even realising it, I'd have to say all of them. Sorry! On what basics do you base these theories....i voted stay among others things how would that make me a raciest ? Maybe its a tory thing.We are all in it togeather. . We are all brexiters now. Anyone, whether leave or remain, or right, left or centre, who honestly believes they have never discriminated unfairly against someone is probably suffering from some serious dilutions." | |||
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"He has been sentenced to 12 weeks in prison. " So the aristocrat gets to spend 6 weeks in prison for attempting to hire a thug to attack a woman because he did not like a court ruling... I wonder if he had been from a sink estate anywhere in England or Wales if the courts would have been so lenient? | |||
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"He has been sentenced to 12 weeks in prison. So the aristocrat gets to spend 6 weeks in prison for attempting to hire a thug to attack a woman because he did not like a court ruling... I wonder if he had been from a sink estate anywhere in England or Wales if the courts would have been so lenient?" He wasn't charged or convicted of attempting to hire a thug to attack anyone. He was convicted of making comments that might encourage someone to attack someone else. Personally I think the sentence is a little light but broadly in line with similar cases. I'm also pretty sure that if he'd been from a sink estate anywhere in England and Wales, for this offence, it would probably not even have got to court but if it had, he probably would have got a similar sentence. | |||
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" Homeopathy is not a crime! " Neither is voting remain or leave! | |||
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"He wasn't charged or convicted of attempting to hire a thug to attack anyone. He was convicted of making comments that might encourage someone to attack someone else. Personally I think the sentence is a little light but broadly in line with similar cases. I'm also pretty sure that if he'd been from a sink estate anywhere in England and Wales, for this offence, it would probably not even have got to court but if it had, he probably would have got a similar sentence." Really? You think that if someone living in Brookvale or Castlefields or any of the other Runcorn Development Association estates went on one of the largest social media sites in the world and offered £5000 to anyone who deliberately ran a named person over with a vehicle that they would not find themselves standing in Halton Magistrates Court being remanded in custody while awaiting trial in Liverpool/Chester/Knutsford Crown Court on a charges of 'Soliciting to murder' and 'Incitement to commit Grievous bodily Harm'. I think Cheshire Plod would be out of their nice big police station in Runcorn Shopping City and using a 'persuader to gain entrance' and that whoever made the offer would not see light of day for a few years! | |||
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