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"If the public sector is going to get a pay rise, let's say 5% for example, then it shouldn't be 5% across the board - but 5% of the lowest pay scale. So if the lowest paid job is £15,000 per year, everyone would get a £750 pay rise. Everyone gets the same - from a clerk/auxiliary nurse up to the chief executive/consultant. Repeat this every time there is a pay increase and it narrows the pay gap between the highest paid and lowest paid in an organisation instead of widening it. A chief executive of an NHS Trust or a chief constable earning £160,000 per year does not need a 5% pay rise. However a nursing auxillary or job centre clerk earning £15,000 most probably do."  | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k!" Excluding or including their employer's pension contributions? | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k!" And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? " I've absolutely no idea. It just raised a few eyebrows around here, when it was made public a couple of months ago 1% of £260k is a good cookie to be given | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? I've absolutely no idea. It just raised a few eyebrows around here, when it was made public a couple of months ago 1% of £260k is a good cookie to be given" This is what happens when capitalism is applied to basic governmental functions such as education. | |||
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"You would think we only have teachers policemen and nurses in this country no one else gets on the news for them there's lots more ppl on way less money than them but they go under the radar what about our army of carers that look after our loved ones most on minimum wage " Again, thats capitalism for you. Those are private companies, would you prefer that the government had control over private sector pay? | |||
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" Again, thats capitalism for you. Those are private companies, would you prefer that the government had control over private sector pay?" I would say it is neoliberalism rather than capitalism. The government already have some control over private sector pay. Where or how they exercise that control is the problem. It could also be the solution. | |||
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"No but the old ppls care homes should of stayed under local council control instead of private ownership were profit is king " I like that idea....but the government didnt want to fund them....same as they dont now | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay." And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members" FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread?" Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response  | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response "Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT) | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)"Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)
Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha "They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change. | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)
Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha
They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change."The reason I don't post as much genius is that I don't have the time that I used to have. Since the referendum result I have never been busier or seen trade better and am rushed off my feet. That is the real world, not the one of doom mongers and idlers like yourself who have nothing better to do. Now obviously over the last ten years not everyone has done so well which is why I bought the EU into this austerity debate. If the EU is such a successful and powerful trading block then why are half the countries in the EU still suffering from austerity measures and its people seeing no increases in pay? Surely they should have traded their way out of it by now? Time for a change and if people think that Brexit is a suicide note (which it isn't) then surely even you would prefer that than death by a thousand cuts | |||
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" They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change." Far far from it, just no point in banging your head when people are deaf, the arguments go round and round and get no where I dont know one person who voted leave who has changed their mind, however I do know people who voted remain and while they would still sooner we stayed have accepted the democratic will and just want to get on to the new order of things. The EU trade is an important but relatively small part of UKgdp, the last time I checked it was around 8%, now if we lost every single pound of that trade it would have bigish affect on the uk however I have not seen one person suggest that could possibily happen, it would break international trade rules to ban our products, if we have to trade on wto rules then that will make imports harder to sell here due to the double whammy of currency and tariffs where we will face a currency benefit to counter the tariff penalty. I accept that financial services could well face issues but its strange how when the crash hit many on the left wanted all bankers shot now they seem to claim they are the future. Have faith remainers it will all work out in the wash | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)
Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha
They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change.
The reason I don't post as much genius is that I don't have the time that I used to have. Since the referendum result I have never been busier or seen trade better and am rushed off my feet. That is the real world, not the one of doom mongers and idlers like yourself who have nothing better to do. Now obviously over the last ten years not everyone has done so well which is why I bought the EU into this austerity debate. If the EU is such a successful and powerful trading block then why are half the countries in the EU still suffering from austerity measures and its people seeing no increases in pay? Surely they should have traded their way out of it by now? Time for a change and if people think that Brexit is a suicide note (which it isn't) then surely even you would prefer that than death by a thousand cuts"Ah so now your saying that because were leaving the EU your doing better....what a load of bollocks...excuse my french please  | |||
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"looks like the 1 billion pound dup bribe is paying off already... looks as if teachers are only going to get a 1% pay rise...... and with inflation running close to 3%... in real terms its a cut! that must be like a kick in the teeth.... so much for those tories in senior position talking last week about having a conversation at least about public sector pay" What did you expect from the Tories Fabio? Remember their millionaire leader recons that the 'heros' in the police, fire and health services who she praises when they run towards danger to save lives are not worth a pay rise in line with inflation. And their last millionaire leader who sacked thousands of them, froze their pay for 2 years before placing the 1% cap on pay rises and introduced austerity for the masses to fund tax cuts for the super rich thinks they are greedy wanting a proper pay rise! | |||
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"looks like the 1 billion pound dup bribe is paying off already... looks as if teachers are only going to get a 1% pay rise...... and with inflation running close to 3%... in real terms its a cut! that must be like a kick in the teeth.... so much for those tories in senior position talking last week about having a conversation at least about public sector pay What did you expect from the Tories Fabio? Remember their millionaire leader recons that the 'heros' in the police, fire and health services who she praises when they run towards danger to save lives are not worth a pay rise in line with inflation. And their last millionaire leader who sacked thousands of them, froze their pay for 2 years before placing the 1% cap on pay rises and introduced austerity for the masses to fund tax cuts for the super rich thinks they are greedy wanting a proper pay rise!" Every tax payer that pays income tax had a tax cut | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)
Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha
They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change.
The reason I don't post as much genius is that I don't have the time that I used to have. Since the referendum result I have never been busier or seen trade better and am rushed off my feet. That is the real world, not the one of doom mongers and idlers like yourself who have nothing better to do. Now obviously over the last ten years not everyone has done so well which is why I bought the EU into this austerity debate. If the EU is such a successful and powerful trading block then why are half the countries in the EU still suffering from austerity measures and its people seeing no increases in pay? Surely they should have traded their way out of it by now? Time for a change and if people think that Brexit is a suicide note (which it isn't) then surely even you would prefer that than death by a thousand cuts
Ah so now your saying that because were leaving the EU your doing better....what a load of bollocks...excuse my french please "I doubt you could speak french. Why, what do I do? | |||
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"I don't see why, just because someone works in the public sector, they should get a pay rise. Over the last seven years public sector pay has not fallen below private sector pay and some data suggests that it's actually risen faster. Even this article from the Guardian, although giving reasons why it's not as simple or straight forward as it seems, points to the public sector being better payed than the private sector. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/27/public-private-sector-pay I also know from my own personal experience that many in the private sector have not even had a pay rise of 1% at all, never mind per year, for a long time and many have actually taken pay cuts. I won't even go on to talk about the massively better pensions those working in the public sector get compared to the those that work in the private sector get. For me this year maybe the first year that I actually earn as much as I did in 2008. On the other hand no pay cap can possibly last forever and public service workers should be paid fairly. Maybe we should be looking at a way to link their pay in someway to rises and falls in private sector pay. And all this while members of the wonderful EU. And we are one of the luckier members FFS Seriously! You really want to turn this into another BREXIT thread? Im afraid he is...its almost like this this pay freeze or cut is all the EU fault...a typical brexiters response
Fuck all to do with Brexit. But if the EU is so wonderful and great for people and business, why, almost ten years after the banking crash, which I'm sure will be the excuse, hasn't the EU been able to pull us all out of austerity, including many other countries across Europe who are suffering more than us, with all the amazing trade deals and business that they do around the world? (NOT)
Told you he was and blaming them for our austerity now hahahaha
They used to be regular posters banging the Brexit drum, but as the months have gone on and it has come into clearer focus how bad Brexit is going to be they are posting less and less. They ignore actual debates about the EU, such as the lack of preparedness, or the impact that leaving may have on cancer treatments, and instead just snipe from the edges on completely separate topics that are entirely unrelated to the EU, saying it's the EUs fault. I bet if they stub their toe on a table it's somehow the fault of the EU. Frankly all it does is prove how thoroughly debunked the Brexit case has become and how desperate it's supporters now our. Every day you see fewer and fewer of them on here, or even in Parliament. I think the tide is starting to change.
The reason I don't post as much genius is that I don't have the time that I used to have. Since the referendum result I have never been busier or seen trade better and am rushed off my feet. That is the real world, not the one of doom mongers and idlers like yourself who have nothing better to do. Now obviously over the last ten years not everyone has done so well which is why I bought the EU into this austerity debate. If the EU is such a successful and powerful trading block then why are half the countries in the EU still suffering from austerity measures and its people seeing no increases in pay? Surely they should have traded their way out of it by now? Time for a change and if people think that Brexit is a suicide note (which it isn't) then surely even you would prefer that than death by a thousand cuts
Ah so now your saying that because were leaving the EU your doing better....what a load of bollocks...excuse my french please
I doubt you could speak french. Why, what do I do?"I dunno what you do....but obviously since the leave vote you got busier total tosh | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? " Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k." More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females" 1 L6 – L18 £43,665 – £58,096 £44,102 – £58,677 2 L8 – L21 £45,876 – £62,521 £46,335 – £63,147 3 L11 – L24 £49,481 – £67,290 £49,976 – £67,963 4 L14 – L27 £53,180 – £72,419 £53,712 – £73,144 5 L18 – L31 £58,677 – £79,872 £59,264 – £80,671 6 L21 – L35 £63,147 – £88,102 £63,779 – £88,984 7 L24 – L39 £67,963 – £97,128 £68,643 – £98,100 8 L28 – L43 £74,958 – £107,210 £75,708 – £108,283 https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/5d1fd504-9c6c-435d-936e11a026800b95.pdf No mention of gender either | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females 1 L6 – L18 £43,665 – £58,096 £44,102 – £58,677 2 L8 – L21 £45,876 – £62,521 £46,335 – £63,147 3 L11 – L24 £49,481 – £67,290 £49,976 – £67,963 4 L14 – L27 £53,180 – £72,419 £53,712 – £73,144 5 L18 – L31 £58,677 – £79,872 £59,264 – £80,671 6 L21 – L35 £63,147 – £88,102 £63,779 – £88,984 7 L24 – L39 £67,963 – £97,128 £68,643 – £98,100 8 L28 – L43 £74,958 – £107,210 £75,708 – £108,283 https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/5d1fd504-9c6c-435d-936e11a026800b95.pdf No mention of gender either " That doesnt include london salaries which I assume are a good bit higher, bit odd that the average is different between sexes in actual paid levels | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females 1 L6 – L18 £43,665 – £58,096 £44,102 – £58,677 2 L8 – L21 £45,876 – £62,521 £46,335 – £63,147 3 L11 – L24 £49,481 – £67,290 £49,976 – £67,963 4 L14 – L27 £53,180 – £72,419 £53,712 – £73,144 5 L18 – L31 £58,677 – £79,872 £59,264 – £80,671 6 L21 – L35 £63,147 – £88,102 £63,779 – £88,984 7 L24 – L39 £67,963 – £97,128 £68,643 – £98,100 8 L28 – L43 £74,958 – £107,210 £75,708 – £108,283 https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/5d1fd504-9c6c-435d-936e11a026800b95.pdf No mention of gender either That doesnt include london salaries which I assume are a good bit higher, bit odd that the average is different between sexes in actual paid levels" Thats the average salaries look at the figures and the bands | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females 1 L6 – L18 £43,665 – £58,096 £44,102 – £58,677 2 L8 – L21 £45,876 – £62,521 £46,335 – £63,147 3 L11 – L24 £49,481 – £67,290 £49,976 – £67,963 4 L14 – L27 £53,180 – £72,419 £53,712 – £73,144 5 L18 – L31 £58,677 – £79,872 £59,264 – £80,671 6 L21 – L35 £63,147 – £88,102 £63,779 – £88,984 7 L24 – L39 £67,963 – £97,128 £68,643 – £98,100 8 L28 – L43 £74,958 – £107,210 £75,708 – £108,283 https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/5d1fd504-9c6c-435d-936e11a026800b95.pdf No mention of gender either That doesnt include london salaries which I assume are a good bit higher, bit odd that the average is different between sexes in actual paid levels Thats the average salaries look at the figures and the bands " It says excluding inner/outer and london fringe at the top,it is in small print though | |||
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"In my locality, we have three Heads Of Academy; two are paid over £200k and one is paid £260k! And how many heads used to be paid that when schools were under LEA control, rather than academies? Average headmaster salary in the UK is under £50k. More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females 1 L6 – L18 £43,665 – £58,096 £44,102 – £58,677 2 L8 – L21 £45,876 – £62,521 £46,335 – £63,147 3 L11 – L24 £49,481 – £67,290 £49,976 – £67,963 4 L14 – L27 £53,180 – £72,419 £53,712 – £73,144 5 L18 – L31 £58,677 – £79,872 £59,264 – £80,671 6 L21 – L35 £63,147 – £88,102 £63,779 – £88,984 7 L24 – L39 £67,963 – £97,128 £68,643 – £98,100 8 L28 – L43 £74,958 – £107,210 £75,708 – £108,283 https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/5d1fd504-9c6c-435d-936e11a026800b95.pdf No mention of gender either That doesnt include london salaries which I assume are a good bit higher, bit odd that the average is different between sexes in actual paid levels Thats the average salaries look at the figures and the bands It says excluding inner/outer and london fringe at the top,it is in small print though "And? | |||
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"Every tax payer that pays income tax had a tax cut" Again, NO THEY DID NOT! Every taxpayer had a small reduction in income tax, however for the vast majority between the rise in NI contributions (tax) and VAT meant that the amount of tax taken actually want up. The reality is that to benefit from the tax changes made by the Tories in the last 7 years you need to be in the top 1% by income and wealth. | |||
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"More bollocks, the teaching times says the average for secondary heads is 74,400 for males and 70,600 for females" And again you spout tosh! First the post you replied to said average heads pay, not secondary heads pay. The average secondary school has multiple feeder schools and therefore the average heads pay will be from that group and not the secondary group. | |||
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"Every tax payer that pays income tax had a tax cut Again, NO THEY DID NOT! Every taxpayer had a small reduction in income tax, however for the vast majority between the rise in NI contributions (tax) and VAT meant that the amount of tax taken actually want up. The reality is that to benefit from the tax changes made by the Tories in the last 7 years you need to be in the top 1% by income and wealth." NI has risen by 1% but the threshold has increased, the upper rate has also increased so the better off are paying more NI. VAT has increased but food(most) has no vat kids clothes have no vat, vat on elec etc has not increased, unless you are a large volume user, IIRC the tax changes were generally neutral for most but beneficial for the lower paid and they had more in their pocket to spend as they wish rather than be taxed at source | |||
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"Every tax payer that pays income tax had a tax cut Again, NO THEY DID NOT! Every taxpayer had a small reduction in income tax, however for the vast majority between the rise in NI contributions (tax) and VAT meant that the amount of tax taken actually want up. The reality is that to benefit from the tax changes made by the Tories in the last 7 years you need to be in the top 1% by income and wealth." This statement is simply not supported by the facts. The biggest beneficiaries relative to their overall wealth, of the minimum tax threshold increasing from £6,000 to £11,000 are the people earning close to £11,000 p.a. The further your earnings are from that figure, either above or below, the less beneficial the increase is for you. | |||
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"Every tax payer that pays income tax had a tax cut Again, NO THEY DID NOT! Every taxpayer had a small reduction in income tax, however for the vast majority between the rise in NI contributions (tax) and VAT meant that the amount of tax taken actually want up. The reality is that to benefit from the tax changes made by the Tories in the last 7 years you need to be in the top 1% by income and wealth. This statement is simply not supported by the facts. The biggest beneficiaries relative to their overall wealth, of the minimum tax threshold increasing from £6,000 to £11,000 are the people earning close to £11,000 p.a. The further your earnings are from that figure, either above or below, the less beneficial the increase is for you." | |||
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"I find it strange how everyone argues over piddling little sums of money when the real giveaways have been in the taxes no one ever seems to notice... The increase in the amount that can be given as tax free gift, the increase in the death duty threshold, now who do you think has benefitted from those changes? Or how about the increase in the probate fee (that's a tax by the way), again who do you all think will be the biggest winners and losers? How about the changes to capital gains tax? There is a reason that the bottom 70% of the population have seen their income shrink by 10% in real terms over the last 7 years while the top 1% have seen their income and wealth double in the same time. It is called ideological austerity, and it is shocking how many of those it targets support it! " Probate fee would have hit the better off the worse but it hasnt happened due to not enough time before the election | |||
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