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"Yawn  "Is 'yawn' the new shortened version of 'we voted to leave. Get over it'? I fear, by the time leavers take responsibility for their shit and understand what a complex mess this is, it will be too late. -Matt | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? " How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. " I know the daily mail has made quango synonymous with pointless with its readers but a Centre for Disease Control does sound rather handy. Btw QUANGO means quasi autonomous non governmental organisation | |||
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"no the gov dont want a brexit, they didnt believe the majority would have voted for a brexit. they are just dithering dilly-dallies talking spin.and hoping they could persuade the public through propaganda that its better within the Eu state" That makes them at odds with the population then. Paul Nuttall of ukip said during the general election campaign "if the government back slides on brexit we'll be here waiting to capitalise on it, in politics sometimes the tide goes out and sometimes the tide comes in". The tide is out on ukip at the moment but if Brexit is not delivered the tide will come back in for ukip in a big way, they will be bigger than they have ever been before taking votes from the tories and votes back from Labour Leavers. The Brexit Genie is out of the bottle now and it won't go back in. The politicians know this if the tories want to commit political suicide then stopping Brexit is a sure fire way for them to do it. | |||
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"no the gov dont want a brexit, they didnt believe the majority would have voted for a brexit. they are just dithering dilly-dallies talking spin.and hoping they could persuade the public through propaganda that its better within the Eu state That makes them at odds with the population then. Paul Nuttall of ukip said during the general election campaign "if the government back slides on brexit we'll be here waiting to capitalise on it, in politics sometimes the tide goes out and sometimes the tide comes in". The tide is out on ukip at the moment but if Brexit is not delivered the tide will come back in for ukip in a big way, they will be bigger than they have ever been before taking votes from the tories and votes back from Labour Leavers. The Brexit Genie is out of the bottle now and it won't go back in. The politicians know this if the tories want to commit political suicide then stopping Brexit is a sure fire way for them to do it. " The only thing Paul Nuttal is waiting for is for his dole money to kick in after he quit after failing | |||
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"no the gov dont want a brexit, they didnt believe the majority would have voted for a brexit. they are just dithering dilly-dallies talking spin.and hoping they could persuade the public through propaganda that its better within the Eu state That makes them at odds with the population then. Paul Nuttall of ukip said during the general election campaign "if the government back slides on brexit we'll be here waiting to capitalise on it, in politics sometimes the tide goes out and sometimes the tide comes in". The tide is out on ukip at the moment but if Brexit is not delivered the tide will come back in for ukip in a big way, they will be bigger than they have ever been before taking votes from the tories and votes back from Labour Leavers. The Brexit Genie is out of the bottle now and it won't go back in. The politicians know this if the tories want to commit political suicide then stopping Brexit is a sure fire way for them to do it. " Fancy quoting Paul Nuttall that couldnt even win a seat with the highest vote to leave....like someone said hes just waiting on his JSA to come through  | |||
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Is 'yawn' the new shortened version of 'we voted to leave. Get over it'?
I fear, by the time leavers take responsibility for their shit and understand what a complex mess this is, it will be too late.
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. " Well have you seen a budget stating how much these departments will get? Have you seen any regions or towns announcing a raft of new jobs coming with these new departments? Have you seen any white papers or bills being introduced regarding setting up these new departments? | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. Well have you seen a budget stating how much these departments will get? Have you seen any regions or towns announcing a raft of new jobs coming with these new departments? Have you seen any white papers or bills being introduced regarding setting up these new departments?" Only thing I've seen is mention of Brexit department commandeering civil servants from other departments and those departments not given any funding to replace them. -Matt | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. I know the daily mail has made quango synonymous with pointless with its readers but a Centre for Disease Control does sound rather handy. Btw QUANGO means quasi autonomous non governmental organisation" We already have centre for disease control within DEFRA when it comes to animals and livestock and disease control for the human population in the UK is already covered within the existing NHS. We really don't need another EU centre for disease control on top of what we already have existing within DEFRA and the NHS. I think you just proved my point about pointless quangos. | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. I know the daily mail has made quango synonymous with pointless with its readers but a Centre for Disease Control does sound rather handy. Btw QUANGO means quasi autonomous non governmental organisation We already have centre for disease control within DEFRA when it comes to animals and livestock and disease control for the human population in the UK is already covered within the existing NHS. We really don't need another EU centre for disease control on top of what we already have existing within DEFRA and the NHS. I think you just proved my point about pointless quangos. " Yes, of course, because having 28 countries each independently trying to research disease spread is much more efficient than pooling knowledge and effort together centrally. -Matt | |||
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"Is therr seriously not one single brexiter that is worried about this? You must really want the UK to fail." No, cos they cant see that far. | |||
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Is 'yawn' the new shortened version of 'we voted to leave. Get over it'?
I fear, by the time leavers take responsibility for their shit and understand what a complex mess this is, it will be too late.
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? How do you know the government hasn't started planning for it? Do you work for the government? You called them "quangos" and really a lot of them are exactly that. Pointless quangos can be scrapped if we have no need for them in future after Brexit. I know the daily mail has made quango synonymous with pointless with its readers but a Centre for Disease Control does sound rather handy. Btw QUANGO means quasi autonomous non governmental organisation We already have centre for disease control within DEFRA when it comes to animals and livestock and disease control for the human population in the UK is already covered within the existing NHS. We really don't need another EU centre for disease control on top of what we already have existing within DEFRA and the NHS. I think you just proved my point about pointless quangos. " Jfc. If we need one as part of defra and NHS then its not a pointless quango | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? " I reckon the EU are in the same boat | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat" How do you figure that? The EU have published all their position papers online. All the minutes of their meetings are coming out. They have been totally transparent. In short, if you want to find out how things are going, look to the EU's website, not HMG for updates. -Matt | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat" In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat How do you figure that? The EU have published all their position papers online. All the minutes of their meetings are coming out. They have been totally transparent. In short, if you want to find out how things are going, look to the EU's website, not HMG for updates. -Matt" All i can say is.. The EU are prepared for this   | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? " Fully agree.. What eeejot said they weren't?.. The twit | |||
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"Useless self serving c**ts means useless self serving c**ts." Who? Not the most thoughtful or insightful comment made on the subject but quite a nice cock so I'll happily let it slide.   | |||
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"Useless self serving c**ts means useless self serving c**ts. Who? Not the most thoughtful or insightful comment made on the subject but quite a nice cock so I'll happily let it slide. "The comment or the cock | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? " Why will there ban a 28th less work to do? | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? Why will there ban a 28th less work to do?" Be, not ban. | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? Why will there ban a 28th less work to do? Be, not ban." The EU currently has 28 member states, after we leave they will have 27 members. | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? Why will there ban a 28th less work to do? Be, not ban. The EU currently has 28 member states, after we leave they will have 27 members." So they'll be a 28th less work to do on research? Less work in Euratom, European Centre for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. But why don't you count it proportionally by population? UK is about 12% of the population of the EU, so why isn't it 12% less work? Didn't realise that an advantage of Brexit was there's be, for example, a 28th, or maybe even 12%, less diseases to research. | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? Why will there ban a 28th less work to do? Be, not ban. The EU currently has 28 member states, after we leave they will have 27 members. So they'll be a 28th less work to do on research? Less work in Euratom, European Centre for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. But why don't you count it proportionally by population? UK is about 12% of the population of the EU, so why isn't it 12% less work? Didn't realise that an advantage of Brexit was there's be, for example, a 28th, or maybe even 12%, less diseases to research." Well there'll be a lot less data to parse without the UKs population included but the same number of diseases but there'll be a huge amount of responsibilities leaving the Euratom agency as the UK takes responsibility for the waste thats been shipped there from other EU countries. The Aviation Safety Agency wont be managing UK airspace either. So there will inevitably be less work but who knows how much. | |||
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"So there should be a decrease in the overall EU budget without the UK as members then? " The money that was spent in the UK will no longer be spent in the UK | |||
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"If we believe all the talk about "Brexit means Brexit" and pulling out of all the multitude of EU agencies such as Euratom, European Centre for for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. Then some of these are going to have to be replaced within the UK. I understand that some of the functions will be absored into existing departments, but other agencies will need to be created in the UK. This will require either primary or secondary legislation (none was mentioned in the Queen's speech), there will need to be decision made about where to base these new departments or QUANGOs will be based, London or the regions or W/S/NI. Then appropriate office space will need to be agreed aswell as the procurement of specialist equipment. Heads of these new agencies will need to be appointed as well as thousands or tens of thousands of civil servants to man them. Funding for all of this will need to be found, through cutting other budget, increasing taxes or increasing spending, so that will have to come at budget time which Hammond has moved to April. If they have known about all this since the referendum, why haven't they started any of this yet? Does this suggest that the Tories aren't really serious about leaving? I reckon the EU are in the same boat In what way? Apart from the European Medicines Agency, which departments/agencies/QUANGOs do they need to relocate? They certainly don't need to create any as a result of Brexit, they don't need to hire more staff as there will be a 28th less work to do. They are not facing a cliff edge of regulatory oversight and dont need to pass any new legislation. That's the way I see it at least. I am interested how on these specific issues you think that the EU is in the same boat? Why will there ban a 28th less work to do? Be, not ban. The EU currently has 28 member states, after we leave they will have 27 members. So they'll be a 28th less work to do on research? Less work in Euratom, European Centre for Disease Control, European Aviation Safety Agency, European Medicines Agency etc. But why don't you count it proportionally by population? UK is about 12% of the population of the EU, so why isn't it 12% less work? Didn't realise that an advantage of Brexit was there's be, for example, a 28th, or maybe even 12%, less diseases to research. Well there'll be a lot less data to parse without the UKs population included but the same number of diseases but there'll be a huge amount of responsibilities leaving the Euratom agency as the UK takes responsibility for the waste thats been shipped there from other EU countries. The Aviation Safety Agency wont be managing UK airspace either. So there will inevitably be less work but who knows how much." Leaving eurotom has major implications. There are three main areas that could be affected by Brexit. They are: the transportation of nuclear materials, including nuclear fuel; research, especially fusion research; and overseas investment in development of British nuclear power stations. | |||
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"So there should be a decrease in the overall EU budget without the UK as members then? " Well the spending will either decrease or be diverted to other areas, yes. The farm subsidies to the UK are £3bn and that will probably just stop being spent. | |||
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"So there should be a decrease in the overall EU budget without the UK as members then? Well the spending will either decrease or be diverted to other areas, yes. The farm subsidies to the UK are £3bn and that will probably just stop being spent." Unless we tell the EU they have to keep on paying us.  | |||
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"If you think the eurotom argument is fun, wait till the work out what is going to happen when it comes to the European free skies agreement when every single airline fare will go up Watch a backlash then...... lol" I flew to Spain and back for £38 last week. How much do you think it will go up? | |||
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"I wonder what will happen too all the premier league players status here." Nothing....they will just have to apply for work permits id guess like the none EU players | |||
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"I wonder what will happen too all the premier league players status here. Nothing....they will just have to apply for work permits id guess like the none EU players " We will see. I reckon their fate is hanging by a thread just like the others here. | |||
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"If you think the eurotom argument is fun, wait till the work out what is going to happen when it comes to the European free skies agreement when every single airline fare will go up Watch a backlash then...... lol I flew to Spain and back for £38 last week. How much do you think it will go up?" Did that include 20kg baggage and administration fees and tax. If so bargain! | |||
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"Useless self serving c**ts means useless self serving c**ts. Who? Not the most thoughtful or insightful comment made on the subject but quite a nice cock so I'll happily let it slide.
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"A simple question: Why do Brexiteers expect those who voted remain to support and agree with all things Brexit now? It's almost like they want remain to do all the hard work on this job for them. If anyone disagrees, questions anything, points out a problem they are called unpatriotic and rude names. Surely it is patriotic to want the best for the country? The same are quick to condemn anything not fitting their world view and question that all the time. Personal truth bias affects us all but I am a pragmatist and want Brexit to end well. That doesn't mean I will blindly accept every bit of nonsense presented. If it is to work questioning to find the best possible solution seems sensible." That is right, us remainers are the true patriots, whilst brexitors is destructive and want the country to fail as they are narrow minded and cant see what is good. | |||
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"A simple question: Why do Brexiteers expect those who voted remain to support and agree with all things Brexit now? It's almost like they want remain to do all the hard work on this job for them. If anyone disagrees, questions anything, points out a problem they are called unpatriotic and rude names. Surely it is patriotic to want the best for the country? The same are quick to condemn anything not fitting their world view and question that all the time. Personal truth bias affects us all but I am a pragmatist and want Brexit to end well. That doesn't mean I will blindly accept every bit of nonsense presented. If it is to work questioning to find the best possible solution seems sensible.That is right, us remainers are the true patriots, whilst brexitors is destructive and want the country to fail as they are narrow minded and cant see what is good." . Check out another thread on here yesterday was a remainer calling brexiteirs unpatriotic and traitors who had committed treason for gods sake actually said treason it's both sides slagging eachother off to be honest | |||
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"A simple question: Why do Brexiteers expect those who voted remain to support and agree with all things Brexit now? It's almost like they want remain to do all the hard work on this job for them. If anyone disagrees, questions anything, points out a problem they are called unpatriotic and rude names. Surely it is patriotic to want the best for the country? The same are quick to condemn anything not fitting their world view and question that all the time. Personal truth bias affects us all but I am a pragmatist and want Brexit to end well. That doesn't mean I will blindly accept every bit of nonsense presented. If it is to work questioning to find the best possible solution seems sensible.That is right, us remainers are the true patriots, whilst brexitors is destructive and want the country to fail as they are narrow minded and cant see what is good.. Check out another thread on here yesterday was a remainer calling brexiteirs unpatriotic and traitors who had committed treason for gods sake actually said treason it's both sides slagging eachother off to be honest " I know I saw that thread too and that was their view. | |||
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"Shaq yr Swedish ffs lol" I know, you can still have a view of brexit on what side you are on lol. | |||
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"Of course you can " Yes and most foreigners think the same. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt" Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. | |||
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"That may well be shaq but what does that matter lol" It doesnt, but they have to live with the consequences of it, like we all have to lol. | |||
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"No we AV to live with it shaq you can always go home you AV a choice lol" Right, so it's not about immigration, but the foreigners should go home if they dont agree with you huh? | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. " And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? | |||
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"A simple question: Why do Brexiteers expect those who voted remain to support and agree with all things Brexit now? It's almost like they want remain to do all the hard work on this job for them. If anyone disagrees, questions anything, points out a problem they are called unpatriotic and rude names. Surely it is patriotic to want the best for the country? The same are quick to condemn anything not fitting their world view and question that all the time. Personal truth bias affects us all but I am a pragmatist and want Brexit to end well. That doesn't mean I will blindly accept every bit of nonsense presented. If it is to work questioning to find the best possible solution seems sensible.That is right, us remainers are the true patriots, whilst brexitors is destructive and want the country to fail as they are narrow minded and cant see what is good.. Check out another thread on here yesterday was a remainer calling brexiteirs unpatriotic and traitors who had committed treason for gods sake actually said treason it's both sides slagging eachother off to be honest " The accusation of being treasonous was in reply to your post "Doesn't matter what u want tho we are leaving get behind it stop talking yr country down lol " Which clearly was an attempt to question the motivation and patriotism of anyone not supporting the economically, politically and diplomatically suicidal BREXIT policy as put forward by May's government over the last year. In reply to your ridiculous suggestion that anymore who doesn't agree with this crazy BREXIT madness was talking the country down TooHot responded with the following " No one is talking the country down. Talking down the incompetence of Theresa May and her Brexiteers, maybe..,. But certainly not talking the country down. All the Remainers that I know are the most patriotic people that I have ever met - their aims are for a fair and prosperous society that exists on equal terms with its close neighbours and trades fairly with the people who have most ion common with each other. Brexiters, on the other hand, seem intent on causing destruction to the economy, divisions in society and to generally make the UK a worse place to live. I am not sure how Brexiters who are consumed with such a destructive agenda can identify themselves as patriots when in fact their actions are the very definition of treason." I have to admit that I to find it hard to understand how people who have voted for a policy that risks crippling Britain's economy for generations can actually believe they are doing something patriotic and then have the nerve to question the motives of those that won't passively go along with suicidal ideas. | |||
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"No we AV to live with it shaq you can always go home you AV a choice lol" That is right you have too and yes that is one good thing of being eu citizen as I will move to spain soon, cant wait lol  | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? " No idea but options are available | |||
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"Brexit was always going to end badly but this ridiculous rush to trigger A50 has really fucked the UK up. May could have held off until everything was debated, a strategy was in place and a transitional agreement was negotiated with the EU and they'd not only be in a much better position to make the best of Brexit but also a far stronger negotiating position both with the EU and every other country. The Brexiters demand of lets just get on with it has been massively destructive to Britains future."  | |||
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"Omfg I said atleast you AV a choice you can go home wtf is wrong with that didn't say to piss of home so wind yr neck in it was a joke to shaq he always says if the uk goes tits up he will move to Spain can't fault the guy AV you seen the weather lol" Yes, the weather is very warm there, about 35c lol. | |||
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"Lmao I ment up here in the north east pussed down two days solid " Sometimes it can rain alot there and yes, it seems you had really bad luck there with the timing as most of the time it is very warm lol. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available " Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. | |||
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"Shaq I ment up here in north east England the bum hole of Britain it's been shit can't wait to go Spain in sept need sum sun lol" I see and yes it usually rains up there and yeah, it needs some sun soon lol. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. " Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen." The Royal College of Radiologists is worried about leaving and the effect that it will have on getting treatment for cancer patients. How many deaths are an acceptable amount for Brexit to be worth it? | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen. The Royal College of Radiologists is worried about leaving and the effect that it will have on getting treatment for cancer patients. How many deaths are an acceptable amount for Brexit to be worth it? " . You are getting worse how many deaths r worth brexit wtfyr getting silly now lol | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen. The Royal College of Radiologists is worried about leaving and the effect that it will have on getting treatment for cancer patients. How many deaths are an acceptable amount for Brexit to be worth it? " We also have huge stakes in many nuclear research programmes. In this instance, it would be prudent for the politicians to be led by industry experts, and to arrive at a sensible outcome for all parties. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen. The Royal College of Radiologists is worried about leaving and the effect that it will have on getting treatment for cancer patients. How many deaths are an acceptable amount for Brexit to be worth it? . You are getting worse how many deaths r worth brexit wtfyr getting silly now lol" Omfg lol cnt u rd he sed dat de rcr was worried bout getin de treatment 4 cancer victims n leaving eu wud be leaving them shrt of wat dey need to do the treatments so its a v gud point 2 b makin here becuz brexit is having lots of effects we hadnt realised how many tings needed to be changed n managed and if we dnt talk about it now then we might nvr get it sorted in time for march 19 when u leave. | |||
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"Euratom has come back up in the news again. A number of Tory MPs and one cabinet minister has come out saying we should remain in Euratom. I believe our membership of it is due to be debated in the house of commons tomorrow. The problem being... we handed in our notice of it as part of A50. So doesn't matter what we think or not, we are leaving it. It is representative of the continued ineptitude and arrogance of HMG that they think they can formally hand in notice and then decide afterwards to debate on whether to stay or not. It is no longer up to HMG, but up to the EU27 as to whether we can stay if we want to. -Matt Associate Membership of Euroatom is available. And what are the pros and cons of the two types of membership? No idea but options are available Places like Conservative Home are saying that there aren't. Switzerland is an associate member, and eight other countries including the USA, Canada and Japan have cooperation agreements with Euratom. Technically we have to leave Euratom, as they and the EU, are legally linked. How practical our departure will be remains to be seen. The Royal College of Radiologists is worried about leaving and the effect that it will have on getting treatment for cancer patients. How many deaths are an acceptable amount for Brexit to be worth it? . You are getting worse how many deaths r worth brexit wtfyr getting silly now lol" No. 10 is refusing to answer if they consulted the Department of Health before making the decision to withdraw. If they had consulted them and were told it would have no clinical impact then they would surely answer the question. So they either didn't consult with the Department of Health, or they did, and were told it would have negative clinical impact and chose to go ahead anyway. | |||
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"Wow that realy offends me bless you . you keep saying we mate but yr not British yr Irish and he said how many deaths are worth brexit well the answer is none but it was a silly bloody question " The royal college of Radiologists think that it's a problem, hopefully you would agree that they know more than you or I about treating cancer. If cancer isnt properly treated, people can die. Hopefully that is also something we can both agree on. Therefore they are worried that leaving Euratom will cause problems in treating cancer and that people may die as a result. Would you find more people dying of treatable cancer after Brexit than before an acceptable price to pay for leaving the EU? Or do you think in light of this information the UK should stay in the EU? | |||
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"Wow that realy offends me bless you . you keep saying we mate but yr not British yr Irish and he said how many deaths are worth brexit well the answer is none but it was a silly bloody question The royal college of Radiologists think that it's a problem, hopefully you would agree that they know more than you or I about treating cancer. If cancer isnt properly treated, people can die. Hopefully that is also something we can both agree on. Therefore they are worried that leaving Euratom will cause problems in treating cancer and that people may die as a result. Would you find more people dying of treatable cancer after Brexit than before an acceptable price to pay for leaving the EU? Or do you think in light of this information the UK should stay in the EU? " The Government today confirmed in the Commons, that the purchase and movement of radioactive isotopes for medical purposes, are not subject to any licencing restrictions from Euratom. | |||
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"I really don't think the tories are taking brexit serious with Boris saying the eu can go whisle maybe the eu Should just say ok we will and see how fast the pound reaches lower than the dollar " Or just say, as they have, "we don't whistle but we hear a clock ticking" | |||
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"Wow that realy offends me bless you . you keep saying we mate but yr not British yr Irish and he said how many deaths are worth brexit well the answer is none but it was a silly bloody question The royal college of Radiologists think that it's a problem, hopefully you would agree that they know more than you or I about treating cancer. If cancer isnt properly treated, people can die. Hopefully that is also something we can both agree on. Therefore they are worried that leaving Euratom will cause problems in treating cancer and that people may die as a result. Would you find more people dying of treatable cancer after Brexit than before an acceptable price to pay for leaving the EU? Or do you think in light of this information the UK should stay in the EU? The Government today confirmed in the Commons, that the purchase and movement of radioactive isotopes for medical purposes, are not subject to any licencing restrictions from Euratom. " 'Theresa May’s deputy has been accused of misleading MPs after insisting cancer patients had nothing to fear from the UK quitting the Euratom agency. The Nuclear Industry Association (NIA) hit back after Damian Green dismissed doctors’ warnings that radioactive isotopes used in scans and treatments may no longer be available as “scaremongering”. The Royal College of Radiologists has raised the alarm, because the UK lacks reactors to produce the isotopes and relies on imports from France, Germany and Holland, overseen by Euratom.' | |||
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