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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html" An arrogant, authoritarian neo-nazi bunch of self-righteous privileged corrupt fucks! | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html An arrogant, authoritarian neo-nazi bunch of self-righteous privileged corrupt fucks!" The DUP, the same party Gordon Brown tried to do a deal with to form a minority Labour government when Labour lost the general election in 2010. Turn the other cheek when it suits you, but your hypocrisy is plain for all to see. | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html An arrogant, authoritarian neo-nazi bunch of self-righteous privileged corrupt fucks! The DUP, the same party Gordon Brown tried to do a deal with to form a minority Labour government when Labour lost the general election in 2010. Turn the other cheek when it suits you, but your hypocrisy is plain for all to see. " Ah ok then, so that makes it ok for Theresa May to do it then, ok I'll just put the kettle on while they risk the good Friday agreement and return to the bad old days shall i? | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html An arrogant, authoritarian neo-nazi bunch of self-righteous privileged corrupt fucks! The DUP, the same party Gordon Brown tried to do a deal with to form a minority Labour government when Labour lost the general election in 2010. Turn the other cheek when it suits you, but your hypocrisy is plain for all to see. " why do people keep bringing up passed labour goverments for when trying to make a point. Jeremy corbyns labour is nothing like the labour of blair and brown. I didnt like labour under blair/brown and I have never voted for labour until this year. my vote was for jeremy corbyn and the labour manifesto. | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html An arrogant, authoritarian neo-nazi bunch of self-righteous privileged corrupt fucks! The DUP, the same party Gordon Brown tried to do a deal with to form a minority Labour government when Labour lost the general election in 2010. Turn the other cheek when it suits you, but your hypocrisy is plain for all to see. why do people keep bringing up passed labour goverments for when trying to make a point. Jeremy corbyns labour is nothing like the labour of blair and brown. I didnt like labour under blair/brown and I have never voted for labour until this year. my vote was for jeremy corbyn and the labour manifesto. " Blair and Brown were a Tory tribute act.Comparisons to corbyn are irrelevant. | |||
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"Its like we are going back to the 70's.... I dont understand how the queen has agreed to theresa may teaming up with the DUP Wasnt it the IRA who killed Lord Mountbatten ... Shes digging her own grave at the moment ." The DUP aren't the IRA. The Queen is following protocol, in allowing the largest party after a GE to form a Government. | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html" No, you're thinking of Sinn Fein | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group " yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html" Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ?" the dup being the political voice of the uda and consequently the uff | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? the dup being the political voice of the uda and consequently the uff" Are you referring to the Ulster Defence Regiment - which was a part of the british army? The Northern Irish Political party most associated with a terrorist organisation is Sinn Fein - which effectively were the political arm of the IRA | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? the dup being the political voice of the uda and consequently the uff Are you referring to the Ulster Defence Regiment - which was a part of the british army? The Northern Irish Political party most associated with a terrorist organisation is Sinn Fein - which effectively were the political arm of the IRA" if was refering to the udr i would've written udr | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ?" That's because there isn't. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA.....a terrorist organisation who set up a cover group to get into politics. Some Members of Sinn Fein have been active members of the IRA. The DUP are more of a religious set up....although they have expressed sympathy with loyalist terrorist groups they were not formed by them. Both sides of the "divide" in NI (loyalists and republicans) have almost identical views on abortion and homosexuality/gay rights etc. The republic is dominated by the Cathokic Church....the loyalists by Paisleys presbitarian beliefs.....take your pick! | |||
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"The thread has got nothing to do with the DUP, IRA or Ireland. To open Parliament by consent the Conservative Govt is going to have to present a manifesto that nobody voted for. Isn't that just plainly unacceptable?" Like the manifesto no one voted for in 2010 when the Tories formed a coalition with the lib dems. Didn't hear you complaining then. | |||
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"Th DUP will use the alliance to strengthen thier hold on the anti abortion laws and anti gay laws in Ireland and if the tories son of support them in that they will not back the tori vote on anything. They will have May by the equvelant of the goolies "Anti abortion laws and laws around LBGT rights are already devolved to the N.Ireland power sharing executive/assembly. The DUP already have control over these laws in N.Ireland with Sinn Fein. Therefore these issues won't be a factor in any deal with the tories. | |||
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"if was refering to the udr i would've written udr " That's why I asked, I was just checking  | |||
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"Th DUP will use the alliance to strengthen thier hold on the anti abortion laws and anti gay laws in Ireland and if the tories son of support them in that they will not back the tori vote on anything. They will have May by the equvelant of the goolies
Anti abortion laws and laws around LBGT rights are already devolved to the N.Ireland power sharing executive/assembly. The DUP already have control over these laws in N.Ireland with Sinn Fein. Therefore these issues won't be a factor in any deal with the tories. "I know that but it will add yet more weight not those issues and make it even harder for people to fight it for the common man/woman Irland. The anti abortion act is barbaric as if a woman has been told her baby is severely deformed or is indeed already dead she has to carry full term because they are not allowed to terminate unless they travel out of the country | |||
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"Th DUP will use the alliance to strengthen thier hold on the anti abortion laws and anti gay laws in Ireland and if the tories son of support them in that they will not back the tori vote on anything. They will have May by the equvelant of the goolies
Anti abortion laws and laws around LBGT rights are already devolved to the N.Ireland power sharing executive/assembly. The DUP already have control over these laws in N.Ireland with Sinn Fein. Therefore these issues won't be a factor in any deal with the tories. "but if Westminster is supposed to be the mediator between the 2 parties to keep peacentre in N Ireland then forming government with one side surly means it can no longer mediate ? How can sin finn have a fair say if the other party is partly in charge of the whole of the UK? | |||
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"You voted for this, we all knew noone would support the manifesto, not even her own party, strong and stable, more like weak and wobbly lol. " Actually I voted Labour even though I don't like Corbyn  | |||
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"You voted for this, we all knew noone would support the manifesto, not even her own party, strong and stable, more like weak and wobbly lol. Actually I voted Labour even though I don't like Corbyn "That is good. I meant those who voted torys there, same here. I like corbyn too. | |||
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"The thread has got nothing to do with the DUP, IRA or Ireland. To open Parliament by consent the Conservative Govt is going to have to present a manifesto that nobody voted for. Isn't that just plainly unacceptable?" What do you mean nobody voted for? The Tory manifesto got more votes than any other including Labour's | |||
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"Its amazing how some criticise the dup for their religeous views and some have said a united Ireland would be great, a country where the main religeon abhors homosexual relations and even birth control and where IIRC abortion is still banned. Lets not even mention sinn fein and the IRA some members of which still engage in violence If these comments about the dup were made about muslims with regard to sexism anti gay position etc many of the people who are screaming about the dup would be shouting racism at the top of their vooices, I think the word is hypocrite" We legalised gay marriage and have just more or less sworn in a gay prime minister Abortion is still illegal but something is in the works about that I'm sure. | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? That's because there isn't. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA.....a terrorist organisation who set up a cover group to get into politics. Some Members of Sinn Fein have been active members of the IRA. The DUP are more of a religious set up....although they have expressed sympathy with loyalist terrorist groups they were not formed by them. Both sides of the "divide" in NI (loyalists and republicans) have almost identical views on abortion and homosexuality/gay rights etc. The republic is dominated by the Cathokic Church....the loyalists by Paisleys presbitarian beliefs.....take your pick!" Blimey, so they have no support/links to the UVF, UDA etc in your mind? Mental. | |||
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"Its amazing how some criticise the dup for their religeous views and some have said a united Ireland would be great, a country where the main religeon abhors homosexual relations and even birth control and where IIRC abortion is still banned. Lets not even mention sinn fein and the IRA some members of which still engage in violence If these comments about the dup were made about muslims with regard to sexism anti gay position etc many of the people who are screaming about the dup would be shouting racism at the top of their vooices, I think the word is hypocrite We legalised gay marriage and have just more or less sworn in a gay prime minister Abortion is still illegal but something is in the works about that I'm sure. " IIRC you had a vote on gay marriage how close was it ? Does the church still oppose it ? | |||
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"The thread has got nothing to do with the DUP, IRA or Ireland. To open Parliament by consent the Conservative Govt is going to have to present a manifesto that nobody voted for. Isn't that just plainly unacceptable? What do you mean nobody voted for? The Tory manifesto got more votes than any other including Labour's" But the manifesto won't be implemented | |||
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"Its amazing how some criticise the dup for their religeous views and some have said a united Ireland would be great, a country where the main religeon abhors homosexual relations and even birth control and where IIRC abortion is still banned. Lets not even mention sinn fein and the IRA some members of which still engage in violence If these comments about the dup were made about muslims with regard to sexism anti gay position etc many of the people who are screaming about the dup would be shouting racism at the top of their vooices, I think the word is hypocrite" | |||
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"The thread has got nothing to do with the DUP, IRA or Ireland. To open Parliament by consent the Conservative Govt is going to have to present a manifesto that nobody voted for. Isn't that just plainly unacceptable? What do you mean nobody voted for? The Tory manifesto got more votes than any other including Labour's But the manifesto won't be implemented " Indeed | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group what kind of party joins with a group backed by terrorists after all that has happened lately http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dup-conservatives-northern-ireland-coalition-ulster-defence-association-paramilitaries-peace-process-a7782631.html No, you're thinking of Sinn Fein" follow the link DOH! | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? That's because there isn't. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA.....a terrorist organisation who set up a cover group to get into politics. Some Members of Sinn Fein have been active members of the IRA. The DUP are more of a religious set up....although they have expressed sympathy with loyalist terrorist groups they were not formed by them. Both sides of the "divide" in NI (loyalists and republicans) have almost identical views on abortion and homosexuality/gay rights etc. The republic is dominated by the Cathokic Church....the loyalists by Paisleys presbitarian beliefs.....take your pick!" Dear God you are uninformed. Like amazingly so. Id almost be impressed with the confident way you talk like you have even a slight idea what youre talking about when you dont. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Resistance The DUP openly and publicly founded a terrorist organisation and did so without reprisal. The reason that they founded it was because they didnt believe that the other terrorist loyalist groups were going far enough. The Republic os not dominated by the Catholic Church. We were the first country in the world to legalise gay marriage by popular vote, a vote Sinn Fein supported. Simn Fein also is supporting a referendum to decide whether or not to change abortion law in Ireland and does support some abortion but not abortion on demand, this is a very different stance to the DUP. The DUP also support the right to discriminate against gay people by businesses and Sinn Fein dont. Not to mention the DUPs nonsense views on climate change. | |||
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"Arent the dup the remains of a terror group yes ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/northern-ireland-father-shot-dead-sainsburys-supermarket-car-park-lone-gunmen-son-bangor-county-down-a7761066.html Ok I may be blind or something but I don't see any reference to the DUP in that atricle ? That's because there isn't. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA.....a terrorist organisation who set up a cover group to get into politics. Some Members of Sinn Fein have been active members of the IRA. The DUP are more of a religious set up....although they have expressed sympathy with loyalist terrorist groups they were not formed by them. Both sides of the "divide" in NI (loyalists and republicans) have almost identical views on abortion and homosexuality/gay rights etc. The republic is dominated by the Cathokic Church....the loyalists by Paisleys presbitarian beliefs.....take your pick! Dear God you are uninformed. Like amazingly so. Id almost be impressed with the confident way you talk like you have even a slight idea what youre talking about when you dont. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Resistance The DUP openly and publicly founded a terrorist organisation and did so without reprisal. The reason that they founded it was because they didnt believe that the other terrorist loyalist groups were going far enough. The Republic os not dominated by the Catholic Church. We were the first country in the world to legalise gay marriage by popular vote, a vote Sinn Fein supported. Simn Fein also is supporting a referendum to decide whether or not to change abortion law in Ireland and does support some abortion but not abortion on demand, this is a very different stance to the DUP. The DUP also support the right to discriminate against gay people by businesses and Sinn Fein dont. Not to mention the DUPs nonsense views on climate change." Denmark was the first country to legalise same sex partnerships. The Netherlands were the first country to legalise same sex marriage in 2001. Ireland was the first country to legalise same sex marriage by a referendum of the people. I'm not sure how far the EUCHR can go in forcing through LGBT and abortion isues in member countries? | |||
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"The thread has got nothing to do with the DUP, IRA or Ireland. To open Parliament by consent the Conservative Govt is going to have to present a manifesto that nobody voted for. Isn't that just plainly unacceptable? What do you mean nobody voted for? The Tory manifesto got more votes than any other including Labour's But the manifesto won't be implemented " Most of it will. Thankfully Labours won't | |||
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