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"Well, he tried to get climate change removed from the school curriculum. That and voting against pretty much all environmental protection bills that have come through. -Matt" Unbelievable!!.. Why him of all people | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote "I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.  | |||
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"This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. " It's not even popular in the Gove household! | |||
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" This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. It's not even popular in the Gove household!" Ha!  | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. "He makes me laugh I generally feel sorry for him | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. "You just keep digging deeper, don't you?  | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. "Where on earth did you get that idea from? As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike. | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike. "I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters. | |||
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"He's a climate change denier isnt he? Just can't make this election saga any more farcical can they.? ffs! " You mean like the climate change denier with the surname Corbyn. That would be Jeremy Corbyn's older brother Piers Corbyn, who is a weather forecaster and has run the WeatherAction group for the last 20 years. Piers Corbyn who firmly opposes the theory of man made climate change, and believes climate change is the result of increased solar activity, rather than carbon emissions. Piers Corbyn who says his younger brother Jermey is "very much open for debate" on the issue of climate change.... www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/is-jeremy-corbyn-a-climate-change-sceptic-his-brother-suggests-he-could-be-a6760346.html | |||
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"He's a climate change denier isnt he? Just can't make this election saga any more farcical can they.? ffs! You mean like the climate change denier with the surname Corbyn. That would be Jeremy Corbyn's older brother Piers Corbyn, who is a weather forecaster and has run the WeatherAction group for the last 20 years. Piers Corbyn who firmly opposes the theory of man made climate change, and believes climate change is the result of increased solar activity, rather than carbon emissions. Piers Corbyn who says his younger brother Jermey is "very much open for debate" on the issue of climate change.... www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/is-jeremy-corbyn-a-climate-change-sceptic-his-brother-suggests-he-could-be-a6760346.html " My brother believes in things I don't. Stop digging by finding some intangible reason to disregard the opposition. Were talking about someone's actual belief and the role he plays. | |||
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"He's a climate change denier isnt he? Just can't make this election saga any more farcical can they.? ffs! You mean like the climate change denier with the surname Corbyn. That would be Jeremy Corbyn's older brother Piers Corbyn, who is a weather forecaster and has run the WeatherAction group for the last 20 years. Piers Corbyn who firmly opposes the theory of man made climate change, and believes climate change is the result of increased solar activity, rather than carbon emissions. Piers Corbyn who says his younger brother Jermey is "very much open for debate" on the issue of climate change.... www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/is-jeremy-corbyn-a-climate-change-sceptic-his-brother-suggests-he-could-be-a6760346.html " Corbyn's aunty's neighbour's cat thinks that too. So what!? | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters. "I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time. With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with. His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out. From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked. He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost. You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality. That is unless the economy does a U-turn. | |||
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"He's a climate change denier isnt he? Just can't make this election saga any more farcical can they.? ffs! You mean like the climate change denier with the surname Corbyn. That would be Jeremy Corbyn's older brother Piers Corbyn, who is a weather forecaster and has run the WeatherAction group for the last 20 years. Piers Corbyn who firmly opposes the theory of man made climate change, and believes climate change is the result of increased solar activity, rather than carbon emissions. Piers Corbyn who says his younger brother Jermey is "very much open for debate" on the issue of climate change.... www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/is-jeremy-corbyn-a-climate-change-sceptic-his-brother-suggests-he-could-be-a6760346.html " Who gives two flying pigs what Corbyn's brother thinks? | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn."The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river. | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn.
The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river. "Apart from what Gove said was bollocks. His fathers business was not destroyed by the EU and was sold as a going concern. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/15/michael-gove-father-company-eu-policies-fish-processing-aberdeen -Matt | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn.
The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river. "Actually it's not up to Gove to set fishing policies. Defra deals with the environment, food and rural affairs. It will be CEFAS, (Centre for Environment, Fisheries, and Aquaculture science) the MMO (Marine management Organisation) and MSC (Marine Stewardship council) who unilaterally will collate to shape our national fisheries and marine management policy. In addition they have to agree with international fishery commissions on those issues so they do not decimate pan-national fish stocks. And before you pull it up, yes, DEFRA is the parent organisation of CEFAS and the MMO, however Gove will not have much jurisdiction over them unless mrs May and the tory majority shrink the departmental powers. CEFAS and the MMO act with near 100% autonomy, the panel of senior civil servants/scientists of relevant field who manage the organisations have a veto on policies from DEFRA which do not match up or are against the objectives of their own organisations. In short, Gove wont do you much better if you wish to decimate our fish stocks. | |||
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"This is a matter Gove really cares about" The only thing Michael Gove cares about is Michael Gove. | |||
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"Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. "Hey, I lnow the guy hit a nerve when he pointed out "experts" jave tried to pull the wool over our eyes and eveything with economics and politics, but one has to draw the line at denial of science. | |||
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"Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Hey, I lnow the guy hit a nerve when he pointed out "experts" jave tried to pull the wool over our eyes and eveything with economics and politics, but one has to draw the line at denial of science. "Tbh the fact that brexiters think that gove has control over the fisheries policy makes me laugh. Just shows how little the know about their own government's institutions | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn.
The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river.
Actually it's not up to Gove to set fishing policies.
Defra deals with the environment, food and rural affairs.
It will be CEFAS, (Centre for Environment, Fisheries, and Aquaculture science) the MMO (Marine management Organisation) and MSC (Marine Stewardship council) who unilaterally will collate to shape our national fisheries and marine management policy.
In addition they have to agree with international fishery commissions on those issues so they do not decimate pan-national fish stocks.
And before you pull it up, yes, DEFRA is the parent organisation of CEFAS and the MMO, however Gove will not have much jurisdiction over them unless mrs May and the tory majority shrink the departmental powers.
CEFAS and the MMO act with near 100% autonomy, the panel of senior civil servants/scientists of relevant field who manage the organisations have a veto on policies from DEFRA which do not match up or are against the objectives of their own organisations.
In short, Gove wont do you much better if you wish to decimate our fish stocks."Sorry but you do not know how this works - Cefas provides the science advice, the MMO is the licencing authority, Defra implement the policy and it is up to the Minister to decide the policy and get it through Parliament. Just to repeat Cefas and the MMO do not produce policy. | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn.
The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river.
Actually it's not up to Gove to set fishing policies.
Defra deals with the environment, food and rural affairs.
It will be CEFAS, (Centre for Environment, Fisheries, and Aquaculture science) the MMO (Marine management Organisation) and MSC (Marine Stewardship council) who unilaterally will collate to shape our national fisheries and marine management policy.
In addition they have to agree with international fishery commissions on those issues so they do not decimate pan-national fish stocks.
And before you pull it up, yes, DEFRA is the parent organisation of CEFAS and the MMO, however Gove will not have much jurisdiction over them unless mrs May and the tory majority shrink the departmental powers.
CEFAS and the MMO act with near 100% autonomy, the panel of senior civil servants/scientists of relevant field who manage the organisations have a veto on policies from DEFRA which do not match up or are against the objectives of their own organisations.
In short, Gove wont do you much better if you wish to decimate our fish stocks.
Sorry but you do not know how this works - Cefas provides the science advice, the MMO is the licencing authority, Defra implement the policy and it is up to the Minister to decide the policy and get it through Parliament. Just to repeat Cefas and the MMO do not produce policy."whoever is in charge they all seem to ignore the science regarding fish stocks and sustainable quotas. | |||
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" This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters. It's not even popular in the Gove household!" | |||
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"he's just added at least another 8 years on to tory unelectability at the next vote
I'd say added another tory win at the next election. Micheal Gove was a leading light of the vote leave campaign in the EU referendum and is now looked upon fondly amongst leave voters. As someone who voted for Brexit I'm very happy to see him back in the Cabinet. This will be a popular move in the eyes of Leave voters.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
As far as I can tell, Michael Gove is roundly despised by leave and remain voters alike.
I quite like him, he did a great job for Vote Leave during the EU referendum. Great move by Theresa May to appoint him to the new cabinet, will be a very popular move amongst Tory Leave voters.
I couldn't give a shit whether he is good at campaigning on whatever matter is the trigger for society at the time.
With a post in DEFRA,the point is he has to know the science and understand the language - at the very least he has to know who to delegate policy making to and ensure that they have the resources and contacts to advise them on and consult with.
His history in government shows that he exploits civil servants and does not listen to their concerns or criticisms. A key failure as mrs May recently found out.
From as someone who has worked with the food standards agency, and who is soon to go back to working with subgroups within DEFRA I can tell you why Gove was picked.
He wants agriculture, environmental legislation and protection as well as food quality control and standards de-regulating. You know why? Because they cost.
You want Brexit, brexit is likely to result in consumer goods being more dangerous, less greenbelt, worse air quality.
That is unless the economy does a U-turn.
The key thing is with Gove's appointment he will be in charge of fisheries policy. As we could be reclaiming our fishing rights and territorial waters from the EU after brexit it's upto Gove to shape future UK fishing policy. This is a matter Gove really cares about and is personal to him because his dad's merchant fishing business was decimated and was put out of business by the EU when we joined the common market in the 70's and Ted Heath sold the UK down the river.
Actually it's not up to Gove to set fishing policies.
Defra deals with the environment, food and rural affairs.
It will be CEFAS, (Centre for Environment, Fisheries, and Aquaculture science) the MMO (Marine management Organisation) and MSC (Marine Stewardship council) who unilaterally will collate to shape our national fisheries and marine management policy.
In addition they have to agree with international fishery commissions on those issues so they do not decimate pan-national fish stocks.
And before you pull it up, yes, DEFRA is the parent organisation of CEFAS and the MMO, however Gove will not have much jurisdiction over them unless mrs May and the tory majority shrink the departmental powers.
CEFAS and the MMO act with near 100% autonomy, the panel of senior civil servants/scientists of relevant field who manage the organisations have a veto on policies from DEFRA which do not match up or are against the objectives of their own organisations.
In short, Gove wont do you much better if you wish to decimate our fish stocks.
Sorry but you do not know how this works - Cefas provides the science advice, the MMO is the licencing authority, Defra implement the policy and it is up to the Minister to decide the policy and get it through Parliament. Just to repeat Cefas and the MMO do not produce policy."Actually no. CEFAS and the MMO both feed into the policies. There are four main points to the policies, scientific consultation of fishstocks and management, legal framework, economic assessment, and the legislative implementation. CEFAS and the MMO can both hold the minister in charge of policy making within DEFRA to account. The departments have in the past threatened to take ministers to court over issues. | |||
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